This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.
How did you have enough time to get through the exam if you used Up to Date for 80% of the questions? Aren't you only allotted an average of about 2 minutes per question? You would have to be pretty quick with finding the answer on Up To Date with all those questions. It sounds like a pretty stressful exam.
I don't know either. I timed myself with practice tests, giving myself 30 secs to use UpToDate for a question. Frankly if you can't find the answer in under a minute, you're not going to find it within the constraints of the timed exam without skipping some potentially easy questions.
I only used it about 6 times during each block on my first pass.
If I had some time left over (some easy 5 sec questions), I'd go back to my marked questions and look in UpToDate again. That was pretty low yield.

Members don't see this ad.
 
I feel like it is gonna be so hard for me to get 64% of ABIM questions correct to pass. On UW, I average around 50-55%...
 
How did you have enough time to get through the exam if you used Up to Date for 80% of the questions? Aren't you only allotted an average of about 2 minutes per question? You would have to be pretty quick with finding the answer on Up To Date with all those questions. It sounds like a pretty stressful exam.

Sorry for the late response. I haven’t been back to this thread since the boards. I’m not sure what to say, but I will say that I had to consult UTD on the large majority of the questions and I will say this, if you are patient and dig in you will likely find the answer on UTD. I would say in order to have the time to do this you will have to answer maybe 20% of the questions without consulting UTD. I didn’t finish the sections with much time if any left. I didn’t feel
Rushed and in fact I purposely took my time to hunt the answer on UpToDate because I figured every correct answer was worth the time spent. It’s a stressful test if you look at it like an exam, I chose to alter my perspective during the test and looked at it not as a test of my knowledge base (which I feel is good) but as a test of my research skills. It’s honestly a very useless test but it’s one of those proverbial hoops you gotta jump through.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user
Members don't see this ad :)
I'm getting first time through studying for ABIM IM recertification exam = 51% on MKSAP and 43% on UWorld. I plan to go back over them again. Are those pretty bad scores?
 
I'm getting first time through studying for ABIM IM recertification exam = 51% on MKSAP and 43% on UWorld. I plan to go back over them again. Are those pretty bad scores?
Not sure if there is correlation. But I scored the low 70s on MKSAP. Did not do UWorld and my score on the real thing 3 yrs ago was in the 40s percentile. I felt the real exam was like MKSAP.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user
I'm getting first time through studying for ABIM IM recertification exam = 51% on MKSAP and 43% on UWorld. I plan to go back over them again. Are those pretty bad scores?
I've never seen any correlation that one can confidently use, although individuals on this thread have posted their question bank scores and final results. I guess you are in the (low-ish) ballpark for pass based on UWORLD score. I didn't use MKSAP. Did you use UpToDate with your failed questions? You need to practice and integrate UpToDate in your prep.

I scored, first time around, about 56% on UWORLD and did well on the ABIM recert exam. There are many factors involved in your actual pass/fail (score) on the real recert exam that are hard to quantify.

I think new information retention, as opposed to current knowledge assessment alone is overlooked in some of the posts here. You need to remember the things you got wrong or the question bank is simply an recurring assessment of your current knowledge without improving it (other than practicing test taking). Think repetition (flash cards with AnkiDroid, hand written cards, cards that can be made in the question bank, or going over questions multiple times). I found AnkiDroid flash cards was the most efficient and effective method to retain new/forgotten knowledge, especially across multiple banks.

You could do a few timed exams at home to test your pass/fail prediction. UWORLD will let you reset the question bank and go through a specified number of questions randomly.
I also really liked the NEJM question bank almost as much as UWORLD in terms of question/answer quality and visual format. It has two timed exams you can use. NEJM takes your percent correct on practice test and calculates your score relative to other test takers which I think is a useful but imperfect gauge. The cost of NEJM is relatively small compared to the stakes.

Good luck.
Remember, it is highly likely you'll pass but leave the exam feeling horrible. Don't give up or lose confidence on exam day. Push through it!
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users
don't kill yourself studying. the test is basically an exercise in using Uptodate as I wrote in my post.
 
Just got my score report. I was slightly above the mean. the passing score was well well below the mean score. Don't kill yourself studying for this test, if I could do it again I wouldn;t have studied as much and just used Uptodate.
 
Scared to death, looking for some motivation to keep going
Poor test taker bombed my ITEs Throughout residency (though I improved on my percentage corrects to 62% -percentile wise13->28->10% was not that great ) never studied through as expected
on the verge of near breakdown as I feel scared as exam date approaches
MKSAP averages around 54% and did about 60% throughout residency ( to be honest I started doing it after 3rd year ITE)
Attended ABR-he made me realize I know nothing and had to work a lot so started UWOLD
Currently at 67% correct left with 30% questions.
I plan to go through it a second time to retain as much as I can along with the tables that I made and ABR notes
but afraid that I neglected too far to correct myself beyond the correction
I would appreciate any wisdom or thoughts that can help
 
I know this has been discussed ad nauseam at this point, but what are everyone's thoughts about the avg percent correct, std deviation, and percent correct to pass?

IMO, i think the avg percent correct sits somewhere btw 70-75, probably around 73 or so. Avg ITE was around 70-71 for PGY3, so it would make sense that the real deal would have a slightly higher percent correct avg. Perhaps a 66-67% would be a passing score, and perhaps a std deviation would be 5-6?

Trying to base this off of the ITE percentiles and what UW percent correct averages are. It seems like the mean on UW is somewhere arond 62-63 (median 55). I think this would be lower than the real deal since UW seems a bit harder.

Also, can someone please explain how a percentile rank works to me??
on the PGY3 ITE, I had 88% correct, 99th percentile. The mean was ~70, with std deviation ~10. If the std deviation was 10, wouldn't that mean that I'd have to score > 2 std deviations above the mean to get 95th percentile (90% correct = 95th?). Obviously it didn't work that way because I was 18 above the mean with 99th percentile.

Thanks!
 
I know this has been discussed ad nauseam at this point, but what are everyone's thoughts about the avg percent correct, std deviation, and percent correct to pass?

IMO, i think the avg percent correct sits somewhere btw 70-75, probably around 73 or so. Avg ITE was around 70-71 for PGY3, so it would make sense that the real deal would have a slightly higher percent correct avg. Perhaps a 66-67% would be a passing score, and perhaps a std deviation would be 5-6?

Trying to base this off of the ITE percentiles and what UW percent correct averages are. It seems like the mean on UW is somewhere arond 62-63 (median 55). I think this would be lower than the real deal since UW seems a bit harder.

Also, can someone please explain how a percentile rank works to me??
on the PGY3 ITE, I had 88% correct, 99th percentile. The mean was ~70, with std deviation ~10. If the std deviation was 10, wouldn't that mean that I'd have to score > 2 std deviations above the mean to get 95th percentile (90% correct = 95th?). Obviously it didn't work that way because I was 18 above the mean with 99th percentile.

Thanks!
I took ABIM first attempt last year while in fellowship. My personal experience, I cracked a little above 50% correct on my ITE in PGY-3 (7th percentile I think?) and my first pass UWORLD was 48% correct. Went over my incorrects and focused on understanding why I got things wrong. Passed no problem. I really don’t think there’s much correlation with % correct and pass rate which is why people have so many discussions about it.

I’m sure there’s some neurotic person that made an excel sheet outlining the % correct on ITE and Uworld and the pass rate, but I really don’t think it matters.

To answer your initial question, my thoughts are 50% correct on ITE and 48% on Uworld = pass ABIM. But this is based on my personal experience and no actual data, because I’m not sure good data for this exists.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users
I took ABIM first attempt last year while in fellowship. My personal experience, I cracked a little above 50% correct on my ITE in PGY-3 (7th percentile I think?) and my first pass UWORLD was 48% correct. Went over my incorrects and focused on understanding why I got things wrong. Passed no problem. I really don’t think there’s much correlation with % correct and pass rate which is why people have so many discussions about it.

I’m sure there’s some neurotic person that made an excel sheet outlining the % correct on ITE and Uworld and the pass rate, but I really don’t think it matters.

To answer your initial question, my thoughts are 50% correct on ITE and 48% on Uworld = pass ABIM. But this is based on my personal experience and no actual data, because I’m not sure good data for this exists.
I think a lot of it has to do with how you took the ITE and UWorld. You need to be honest about who you are when you took it. If you were the type of person that spent time studying for the ITE and doing QBanks and scored poorly, you likely will have a hard time with the real thing. If you just took the ITE because you had to with minimal to no prep then your first time UWorld was mainly learning, chances are that the ITE and your first pass of UWorld don't indicate at all what your ability or your score for the boards will be. Know yourself and prepare appropriately
 
Members don't see this ad :)
Going alright. Anybody possibly down to go over most or all of UWorld at a glance over 08/23 to 08/26 or 08/27 latest?
 
Scared to death, looking for some motivation to keep going
Poor test taker bombed my ITEs Throughout residency (though I improved on my percentage corrects to 62% -percentile wise13->28->10% was not that great ) never studied through as expected
on the verge of near breakdown as I feel scared as exam date approaches
MKSAP averages around 54% and did about 60% throughout residency ( to be honest I started doing it after 3rd year ITE)
Attended ABR-he made me realize I know nothing and had to work a lot so started UWOLD
Currently at 67% correct left with 30% questions.
I plan to go through it a second time to retain as much as I can along with the tables that I made and ABR notes
but afraid that I neglected too far to correct myself beyond the correction
I would appreciate any wisdom or thoughts that can help
Odds are high based on your preparation that you will pass.

Make sure you practice timed exams to be efficient pacing yourself on test day. Test taking is an important learned skill.
Your score is a reflection of years gaining knowledge, so don't sweat the last few months.
Find topics where you are the weakest based on question banks, and then identify the one's most represented (weighted) in the blueprint. Work on those somewhat more than the topics you know best. It can be frustrating to be confronted with a lack of knowledge, but it will be higher yield preparation for the exam.
Stay as healthy as possible, physically and emotionally. Do some exercise, eat well, socialize with nice people, enjoy a hobby, don't drink too much, and practice good sleep habits. You can't go into an exam like a wreck and expect to perform your best.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users

Pilot Model Pathway to Board Eligibility for Exceptionally Qualified International Medical Graduates​


Did anyone receive this? This is scary.
 
How was everyone's experience so far?

That exam was hard AF. I worry I won't fall within the 1.33 SD of the mean. I studied a lot, but the test was super vague. People say you can miss up to 21 per block, but some blocks were challenging, and I probably brushed up against that missed total a few times. Time will tell.
 
Man it was a harsh experience, you read the question and then choose your answer, it does not matter how hard you hit, the fatigue kicks in after 2nd block making it harder... All I pray for is to pass
 
Man it was a harsh experience, you read the question and then choose your answer, it does not matter how hard you hit, the fatigue kicks in after 2nd block making it harder... All I pray for is to pass
Nearly everyone leaves feeling dejected and wondering about their next career.
 
I passed, thank you for taking the time to reply, this form had invaluable experiences throughout for people who are planning or about to start the prep. The experience and preparation which is the core to handling this beast had been the same throughout and you can get an idea by going through this forms and previous post
I used Uworld -68% percent correct, the second time I went over incorrect and I used ABR, read the notes twice (did MKSAP 57% while I was in 3rd year and stopped it once I started Uworld )
As mentioned my ITE's are trash and I never studied while in residency (13-28-11 percentile) and I score 1.7 SD above mean so its completely doable Good luck
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user
Passed

PGY-1 ITE 86th percentile
PGY-2 ITE 91st percentile
PGY-3 ITE 99th percentile
UW first pass - 78% correct - 94th percentile

Score:
> 680
~ 95-97th percentile based on the standard deviation report.

I'll make a more detailed post later regarding tips. Congrats to all who passed, and to those who didn't - keep your head up and keep moving forward. It's just one test.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user
I did not pass. In fact, I did terribly scoring a paltry 319. I did UW x1.5 (1st pass was 52-53% mostly on untimed mode). I did parts of MKSAP too throughout residency but did not keep up with it. I started UW almost 6 months in advance doing 10-15 questions a day. I tried really really hard to study but I also felt I burned myself out near the end. I think I just lost knowledge near the end. I have never failed an exam before and usually did average to slightly below average. Near the end of my study prep I was doing like 20 questions but felt like I had reached a threshold. And on test day, I felt like a lot of it came down to test taking strategy. But with such a low score, I likely have large knowledge gaps.

What really discourages me is knowing those who studied half as much or barely at all passing. It makes me feel like an idiot. And my ITEs were all trash, so I am sure my PD thinks, “Well, this was expected.”

If anyone has tips please let me know. I did a ton of Anki in med school, but none for ABIM. Maybe I need to return to that kind of spaced repetition. Or read Board Basics from start to finish.

I took the ABOIM a few weeks and felt much more confident after finishing that exam. I hope that translates into passing When I finished the ABIM, I walked out feeling blindsided.

Still, to be a Chief, applying to a competitive sub-specialty, I feel extremely disappointed and embarrassed that I failed. Only 1 other person in my graduating cohort failed (2 out of 15).
 
Table of first reported results updated for this year, just for future reference:

2024: Wednesday, October 2 @ 817am
2023: Tuesday, October 3 @ 728am
2022: Tuesday, October 11 @ 425am
2021: Monday, October 11 @ 853am
2020: Wednesday, October 14 @ 646 am
2019: Monday, September 30 @ 943am
2018: Thursday, October 18 @ 735pm
2017: Monday, October 23 @ 1014am (results rolled out over about 4 days with no rhyme nor reason to the order)
2016: Saturday, October 15 @951 pm (snafu on the website as results rolled in over the next 12 hours or so)
2015: Thursday, October 8 @ 817AM
2014: Monday, October 6 @ 1059AM
2013: Monday, October 7 @ 323 AM
2012: Thursday, October 4 @ 814 AM
2011: Wednesday, November 2 @ 1033 AM
Unable to find 2010, but it was prior to November 9
2009: Tuesday, October 20 @ 540PM
 
Last edited:
I did not pass. In fact, I did terribly scoring a paltry 319. I did UW x1.5 (1st pass was 52-53% mostly on untimed mode). I did parts of MKSAP too throughout residency but did not keep up with it. I started UW almost 6 months in advance doing 10-15 questions a day. I tried really really hard to study but I also felt I burned myself out near the end. I think I just lost knowledge near the end. I have never failed an exam before and usually did average to slightly below average. Near the end of my study prep I was doing like 20 questions but felt like I had reached a threshold. And on test day, I felt like a lot of it came down to test taking strategy. But with such a low score, I likely have large knowledge gaps.

What really discourages me is knowing those who studied half as much or barely at all passing. It makes me feel like an idiot. And my ITEs were all trash, so I am sure my PD thinks, “Well, this was expected.”

If anyone has tips please let me know. I did a ton of Anki in med school, but none for ABIM. Maybe I need to return to that kind of spaced repetition. Or read Board Basics from start to finish.

I took the ABOIM a few weeks and felt much more confident after finishing that exam. I hope that translates into passing When I finished the ABIM, I walked out feeling blindsided.

Still, to be a Chief, applying to a competitive sub-specialty, I feel extremely disappointed and embarrassed that I failed. Only 1 other person in my graduating cohort failed (2 out of 15).
Sorry to hear that.
Your burn out near the end makes me wonder if you did not take enough time preparing in the last 6 months. I wouldn't go by number of questions, but by time learning and retaining. 10-15 questions some nights might have taken me 1 - 1.5 hours to do. I am reading the wrong and right answers, writing Anki cards, reading additional information in UpToDate. Then I had to spend some time reviewing a block of old flash cards for retention.
Did the score breakdown yield any light on knowledge gaps (yet to be learned)?
Were there poor scores in areas that you had studied (not retained)?
Did you do any timed practice exams? (test taking skills). NEJM has a question bank with CME and questions nearly on par with UW. They also have two timed exams. Of course with UW you can do random set of questions timed on your own.

Analyze your exam weaknesses and start prepping!
 
I also did not pass my first trial this year. I am willing to purchase Awesome Review note, if someone no longer needs it. Thank you.
 
I fortunately passed
ABIM score: 530 (which about 1 SD above mean I think)
Did 1 pass of MKSAP during PGY-2 scoring 68% correct.
83rd percentile for PGY-3 ITE (which is also about 1 SD above the mean. For my case, it was a very precise predictor of my actual score)
Did 1 pass of Uworld during PGY-3 scoring 64% correct. Uworld is artificially low because I started getting fatigued at how long some of the question stems were and was answering without reading the complete stem.

My program bought Awesome Review. It consisted of a lecturer with a thick Indian accent blasting you for several days with information and pointing out hundreds of high yield facts. Guy speaks too fast. If you don't know the stuff already, you will struggle to keep up with the pace. In my opinion, it's for people who know the stuff, but just need a refresher. Personally, I did not enjoy the style of learning and stopped paying attention because it was too much information overload.

For people looking to pass the boards for the first time, I'd recommend question banks all the way supplementing it with some podcasts on key topics or certain concepts that you're having difficulty with. Definitely review your incorrects. Ignore the low yield questions that only less than 30% of people got correct. If your goal is to just pass, focus on reviewing the high yield incorrects that you are expected to know.
 
Last edited:
I fortunately passed
ABIM score: 530 (which about 1 SD above mean I think)
Did 1 pass of MKSAP during PGY-2 scoring 68% correct.
83rd percentile for PGY-3 ITE (which is also about 1 SD above the mean. For my case, it was a very precise predictor of my actual score)
Did 1 pass of Uworld during PGY-3 scoring 64% correct. Uworld is artificially low because I started getting fatigued at how long some of the question stems were and was answering without reading the complete stem.

My program bought Awesome Review. It consisted of a lecturer with a thick Indian accent blasting you for several days with information and pointing out hundreds of high yield facts. Guy speaks too fast. If you don't know the stuff already, you will struggle to keep up with the pace. In my opinion, it's for people who know the stuff, but just need a refresher. Personally, I did not enjoy the style of learning and stopped paying attention because it was too much information overload.

For people looking to pass the boards for the first time, I'd recommend question banks all the way supplementing it with some podcasts on key topics or certain concepts that you're having difficulty with. Definitely review your incorrects. Ignore the low yield questions that only less than 30% of people got correct. If your goal is to just pass, focus on reviewing the high yield incorrects that you are expected to know.

I am interested in purchasing the book if you are open to it.

How was your studying the last 2-3 weeks? 40 a day? I started UW in January and did a few questions daily, but I clearly either lost the knowledge that I gained or a combination of being burnt out near the end, where I did like 80 questions total last week or so.
 
I am interested in purchasing the book if you are open to it.

How was your studying the last 2-3 weeks? 40 a day? I started UW in January and did a few questions daily, but I clearly either lost the knowledge that I gained or a combination of being burnt out near the end, where I did like 80 questions total last week or so.
I gave away my books already.

I did about 30-40 a day for the last month. Before that, I was doing 5-10 questions about every other day in random mode. I'd avoid doing system specific question sets. You will lose knowledge on the earlier organ systems you studied. You want the benefit of spaced repetition.

Also, what really drove my score up from PGY-2 to PGY-3 was reviewing organ systems that people tend to neglect (rheumatology, endocrine, general internal medicine). My ITE score went from average in PGY-2 to 1 SD above average in PGY-3. I see a lot of people over studying cardiology and gastroenterology, topics that your average resident is already competent at. As boring as it is, studying endocrine and rheumatology will likely be the difference maker for a lot of people. Study other organ systems that you are weak at as well.
 
Last edited:
Hi all,

I wanted to provide my thoughts on each resource that I used in terms of content quality. I hope that this will help future residents with their ABIM boards!

Let me preface this all with the statement that this is all my opinion, YMMV!

As mentioned my score was a 682, somewhere in the 95-99th percentile.

All of the question banks below I had finished in their entirety prior to the ABIM exam.

Several of the banks I did a few passes on - UWx3 passes, MKSAP 19x4, NEJMx2.

====================

1. UWorld ABIM Qbank:
Content rating-10/10
Format rating-6.5/10

This question bank is by far the best resource for content review, and for ABIM boards overall. It provides in-depth explanations for each correct and incorrect answer and requires an extra level of critical thinking for the exam that is very helpful. I would say that the difficulty of this question bank was on par with that of the actual exam. The content for this question bank is all very high yield. The question explanations are unmatched, and this resource also includes charts, tables, and graphics that offer a very unique and easy way to memorize the most board relevant material. It also tends not to test on smaller details, and instead focuses on broader picture concepts. On occasion, it will test on smaller details, but will eventually relate those details to larger concepts. My only grievance with this question bank is that, very often the question writers will seemingly intentionally try to "trick," examinees by leading them down a certain thought process, only to make a complete 180 at the end of the clinical vignette. In my opinion, this was not reflective of the actual board exam. ABIM does not seem like it is trying to trick residents, although this question bank seems to do this more often than not. I would also add that the clinical vignettes of this question bank are excessively long, with too many extraneous details that are often confusing. The length of the stems for each question on average was much longer than necessary. However, with that said, this is going to be the best resource in my opinion purely for content review. In my opinion, every resident should do at least 1 pass of this question bank in order to have a higher odds of passing, preferably 2 passes. I cannot emphasize this enough-it is best to start this question bank early. In order to perform well, residents should start this question bank early in the PGY 3-year. It took me approximately 6 months to get through this question bank from start to finish. I do not recommend doing an excess number of questions per day, rather I recommend doing only a few questions per day (5-10) and truly extracting all of the information from each individual question. This includes reading wrong answers, and understanding why each answer is wrong. One thing that helped me was reading up-to-date on certain topics that I did not understand.

2. Board Basics MKSAP Book:
Content rating - 9/10

This is a very high yield resource. In my opinion, it is one of the best resources for content to review aside from the UWorld ABIM question bank. It offers a very wide variety of broad concepts while still offering and emphasizing smaller details that are critical to both a foundational knowledge for clinical practice and to perform well on the internal medicine boards. It covers just enough on each topic to make one proficient in a variety of topics, at least decent enough to understand that topic for the ABIM boards. It offers a wide variety of charts as well as algorithms that help memorize core concepts for internal medicine practice as well as for the board exam. As with any resource, there are some smaller extraneous details that are not very board relevant, however the vast majority of the content contained within this review book is excellent. I would definitely recommend at least 2 full passes of this book. If I had to choose 1 written resource to study for internal medicine boards, I would use this book. It may not offer a vast amount of in-depth knowledge for every subject, which is more so contained in the MKSAP19 subject books, however in my opinion the subject books present material that is too in-depth for the knowledge needed to pass the internal medicine boards. Rather, I would not recommend reading all of the subject books, instead opting for question banks along with knowing this study resource in its entirety. This is both a good resource to use passively throughout the 3 years of residency, and during the dedicated board study time.

3. MKSAP 19 Qbank:
Content rating-8/10
Format rating-7.5/10

This question bank is very good in terms of content, and offers a broad review of concepts that are very important to know for exam day. It tends to try to connect some of the larger concepts with smaller details. In my opinion, this is a good question bank to do before dedicated board preparation time as it provides a foundational level of knowledge for the ABIM exam. Many of the core concepts in this question bank are very high yield, and I would definitely recommend 1-2 passes of this question bank throughout the 3 years of residency. However, I would still maintain that UW is a much better resource for content review! This was the first question bank that I started with in internship, and it was definitely useful to provide a foundation of medical knowledge. In my opinion, although the question bank does have much high yield information, it also tests on an abundance of lower yield information that is not necessarily board relevant, but might be required for clinical practice. Amongst these lower yield clinical points is the oncology section, which in my opinion is very low yield. All in all, I would say that 70% of this question bank is useful information that is board relevant, 80% is relevant for both clinical practice and board exam knowledge, and approximately 20% is knowledge that is both low yield for clinical practice as well as for internal medicine boards. In terms of question formatting, I believe this question bank does a decent job, with a mix of both long and shorter vignettes. It also offers the option to do "quick questions," which I think are valuable in terms of short-term fact recall. I also enjoyed the virtual diagnosis section of this question bank as it offered a quick review of high yield diagnoses that require residents to recognize pathognomonic visual findings.

4. Rosh Review ABIM Qbank:
Content rating-7/10
Format rating-7.5/10

This was my third favorite question bank as it definitely offers a good amount of information for boards, but I will also add that it tests on smaller details that are not necessarily relevant to performing well on boards. I would also add that many of the questions that are present in this question bank are far beyond the scope of the standard internal medicine physician and are not relevant to clinical practice, nor knowledge for internal medicine boards. If a resident has already completed UW and MKSAP 19 and is looking for another question bank to do passively prior to dedicated study for the internal medicine boards, I would recommend this question bank or the New England Journal question bank to do for practice. The format of the questions offers both long and short clinical vignettes which I think can be useful for mastering exam style questions.

5. New England Journal ABIM QBank:
Content rating-7/10
Format rating 7/10

I would say this question bank resource is just about tied in terms of utility with the Rosh Review Qbank. It offers a wide variety of high-yield information that is helpful to know for internal medicine boards, while also emphasizing smaller details that are not necessarily irrelevant. I would say on average that this tends to be a bit of a more challenging question bank, but still offers a variety of useful information for the PGY 3 resident. I would not start with this resource right away, instead emphasizing UW (#1) and MKSAP (#2), although this could be a valuable resource to do passive questions throughout the year if a resident has already finished both of the previously mentioned resources. One of the grievances that I had with this question bank is that some of the answers that are deemed to be correct on the question bank are arguable, and there is a good amount of lower yield information contained in this question bank as well. On average I would say that 70% of this question bank is relevant to the internal medicine boards, and about the same is relevant to clinical practice. 30% of this question bank offers lower yield information, or questions that are not necessarily representative of board relevant material nor clinical practice. The format of the questions tends to be a good mix of longer and shorter vignettes, and so I do still think that this is a good resource to do for passive practice throughout the year pending completion of the 2 highest yield question banks with emphasis on completion of UWorld.

6. Board Vitals ABIM Qbank:
Content rating-6/10
Format rating-6/10

I would only recommend this resource if a resident has completed all of the aforementioned question banks with the reason being that only ~50% of the material represented in this question bank is both relevant to internal medicine boards, and clinical practice. This question bank tends to test on smaller details as opposed to emphasis on broader clinical concepts. An example would be testing on inhibition of certain interleukin cytokines in pharmacologic processes, or asking about basic science biochemistry which is most certainly not relevant to clinical practice nor internal medicine boards. I would also add that the percentile rank function on this question bank seems to be broken-either that or over half of people that are taking this question bank are scoring over 80% correct. The question style for this question bank tends to be shorter style questions without many longer vignettes. In my opinion the best question bank is one that has a good mix of both long and shorter clinical vignettes.

7. MedStudy ABIM Qbank:
Content rating-4.5/10
Format rating-6/10

Now we begin some of the resources that I would not recommend using for the internal medicine boards. I cannot speak to the abundance of material/resources that this company uses outside of the question bank as I have only heard great things regarding them-however in terms of the question bank in its entirety, I cannot recommend it. There are often frankly incorrect details within the question bank, sometimes with typos in the clinical vignettes. I have actually written to this company multiple times regarding blatantly incorrect questions, and have had many questions removed. It can be very confusing for residents to understand core concepts, and in my opinion it does not make sense to increase the difficulty of memorizing concepts if one is unsure whether or not the concepts being presented are most accurate.

8. Knowmedge ABIM Qbank:
Content rating-3/10
Format rating-3/10

I would most certainly recommend staying away from this resource. Questions answers are often incorrect, outdated, and are frankly not representative of neither clinical practice nor board relevant material. I would say that the only useful part of this question bank is the 2-minute videos that are associated with each question. These can be useful, although it is not worth the purchase.

9. MedChallenger ABIM Qbank:
Content rating-4/10
Format rating-4/10

I would also recommend staying away from this resource. Questions test on information that seems to be outdated, and more often than not question answers are incorrect. I would also add that the interface of this question bank is absolutely atrocious, and exceedingly difficult to navigate.

=========

I would also like to offer what I thought the most predictive resource was in terms of actual score. There are several predictors which I think are rather accurate:
-Obviously the PGY 3 ITE is going to be very representative of the actual score on ABIM. However, in my opinion there is some degree of variability for ITE accuracy, and this is because certain residents take this exam more seriously than others. This creates individual variability and it can be difficult to predict the resemblance of actual outcome with PGY 3 ITE percentile. Regardless however, I do think that overall it is an accurate representation as I would argue that residents who do not take the PGY3 ITE very seriously will on average score a lower percentile than residents who take it very seriously.
-UW ABIM first pass percentile rank-this was rather predictive for me. My first pass yielded a 78% correct which was around 94th percentile. This was approximately 2-4 percentile points off from my actual score. In my opinion, second and third passes of this question bank are not always as representative because there is a recall bias in terms of remembering individual questions.
-Rosh Review predictive tool-this question bank offers a predictive score based on the percent correct in the ABIM question bank. My overall percent correct after my first pass was 85% with a predicted score of approximately 714. This overestimated my score slightly, but I do think that it could be accurate for scores in the 30th-80th percentile range.

There is also an algorithm developed by the Cleveland Clinic that predicts the likelihood of an individual resident to pass the internal medicine boards based on the 3 years of ITE scores and the number of call months in the last 6 months of residency. In terms of predictive value, it seems to be very accurate. The risk calculator can be found below:

Predicting the probability of passing the American Board of Internal Medicine examination

================

I hope this is helpful!

Congrats again to all who passed. For all who didn't it's just one test. Keep on pushing forward!
 
  • Like
Reactions: 6 users
Great summary!
A key recommendation for question banks was to review all the answers to a question. How much depends on your prior knowledge.
Learn, then retain that knowledge. I liked making my own Ankidroid cards, not just to review later, but the act of making the card also helps with new information retention. I divided my daily study with new questions, and old Ankidroid cards.
I found many of my more challenging ABIM exam questions were addressed in my question bank(s), but might have asked a different question on the topic. So you need some study depth, not just knowing that one answer from the bank.
From my experience, only going through the questions and seeing the right answer does not help much, other than to assess current knowledge.
 
I just took the IM ABIM recertification exam, which has many (or all) of the same questions used in your first-time exam.
Some practical suggestions:
1) Make sure you get a good night's sleep the night before. That is probably the biggest thing you can do to pass.
2) Take a few days of vacation/CME time off right before the exam. Not being as stressed out will help you pass.
3) Unless you live next door to the testing center, consider staying in a hotel the night before to get a good, quiet night's sleep.
4) I used Up To Date alot. I had 2 hours for 55 questions or roughly 2 minutes per question. Being able to use Up To Date quickly and efficiently is very important.
5) If you can only study one thing, I would do UWorld. The question format is the same as the ABIM exam, which was good. I also did MKSAP questions, which helped a little for basic knowledge. I did Awesome Review, and I thought it was a waste of my money and time.
6) Bring some snacks to the testing center and put in the locker they give you. I ate them at my 10 minute break between sections. Know ahead of time where you will go for lunch- where is the McDonald's or wherever you will go? Decide before you go to the test to maximize your time.
Good luck!
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user
I gave away my books already.

I did about 30-40 a day for the last month. Before that, I was doing 5-10 questions about every other day in random mode. I'd avoid doing system specific question sets. You will lose knowledge on the earlier organ systems you studied. You want the benefit of spaced repetition.

Also, what really drove my score up from PGY-2 to PGY-3 was reviewing organ systems that people tend to neglect (rheumatology, endocrine, general internal medicine). My ITE score went from average in PGY-2 to 1 SD above average in PGY-3. I see a lot of people over studying cardiology and gastroenterology, topics that your average resident is already competent at. As boring as it is, studying endocrine and rheumatology will likely be the difference maker for a lot of people. Study other organ systems that you are weak at as well.
i definitely was not competent in GI, in ITEs, other practice questions, real exam, residency practice or e
Hi all,

I wanted to provide my thoughts on each resource that I used in terms of content quality. I hope that this will help future residents with their ABIM boards!

Let me preface this all with the statement that this is all my opinion, YMMV!

As mentioned my score was a 682, somewhere in the 95-99th percentile.

All of the question banks below I had finished in their entirety prior to the ABIM exam.

Several of the banks I did a few passes on - UWx3 passes, MKSAP 19x4, NEJMx2.

====================

1. UWorld ABIM Qbank:
Content rating-10/10
Format rating-6.5/10

This question bank is by far the best resource for content review, and for ABIM boards overall. It provides in-depth explanations for each correct and incorrect answer and requires an extra level of critical thinking for the exam that is very helpful. I would say that the difficulty of this question bank was on par with that of the actual exam. The content for this question bank is all very high yield. The question explanations are unmatched, and this resource also includes charts, tables, and graphics that offer a very unique and easy way to memorize the most board relevant material. It also tends not to test on smaller details, and instead focuses on broader picture concepts. On occasion, it will test on smaller details, but will eventually relate those details to larger concepts. My only grievance with this question bank is that, very often the question writers will seemingly intentionally try to "trick," examinees by leading them down a certain thought process, only to make a complete 180 at the end of the clinical vignette. In my opinion, this was not reflective of the actual board exam. ABIM does not seem like it is trying to trick residents, although this question bank seems to do this more often than not. I would also add that the clinical vignettes of this question bank are excessively long, with too many extraneous details that are often confusing. The length of the stems for each question on average was much longer than necessary. However, with that said, this is going to be the best resource in my opinion purely for content review. In my opinion, every resident should do at least 1 pass of this question bank in order to have a higher odds of passing, preferably 2 passes. I cannot emphasize this enough-it is best to start this question bank early. In order to perform well, residents should start this question bank early in the PGY 3-year. It took me approximately 6 months to get through this question bank from start to finish. I do not recommend doing an excess number of questions per day, rather I recommend doing only a few questions per day (5-10) and truly extracting all of the information from each individual question. This includes reading wrong answers, and understanding why each answer is wrong. One thing that helped me was reading up-to-date on certain topics that I did not understand.

2. Board Basics MKSAP Book:
Content rating - 9/10

This is a very high yield resource. In my opinion, it is one of the best resources for content to review aside from the UWorld ABIM question bank. It offers a very wide variety of broad concepts while still offering and emphasizing smaller details that are critical to both a foundational knowledge for clinical practice and to perform well on the internal medicine boards. It covers just enough on each topic to make one proficient in a variety of topics, at least decent enough to understand that topic for the ABIM boards. It offers a wide variety of charts as well as algorithms that help memorize core concepts for internal medicine practice as well as for the board exam. As with any resource, there are some smaller extraneous details that are not very board relevant, however the vast majority of the content contained within this review book is excellent. I would definitely recommend at least 2 full passes of this book. If I had to choose 1 written resource to study for internal medicine boards, I would use this book. It may not offer a vast amount of in-depth knowledge for every subject, which is more so contained in the MKSAP19 subject books, however in my opinion the subject books present material that is too in-depth for the knowledge needed to pass the internal medicine boards. Rather, I would not recommend reading all of the subject books, instead opting for question banks along with knowing this study resource in its entirety. This is both a good resource to use passively throughout the 3 years of residency, and during the dedicated board study time.

3. MKSAP 19 Qbank:
Content rating-8/10
Format rating-7.5/10

This question bank is very good in terms of content, and offers a broad review of concepts that are very important to know for exam day. It tends to try to connect some of the larger concepts with smaller details. In my opinion, this is a good question bank to do before dedicated board preparation time as it provides a foundational level of knowledge for the ABIM exam. Many of the core concepts in this question bank are very high yield, and I would definitely recommend 1-2 passes of this question bank throughout the 3 years of residency. However, I would still maintain that UW is a much better resource for content review! This was the first question bank that I started with in internship, and it was definitely useful to provide a foundation of medical knowledge. In my opinion, although the question bank does have much high yield information, it also tests on an abundance of lower yield information that is not necessarily board relevant, but might be required for clinical practice. Amongst these lower yield clinical points is the oncology section, which in my opinion is very low yield. All in all, I would say that 70% of this question bank is useful information that is board relevant, 80% is relevant for both clinical practice and board exam knowledge, and approximately 20% is knowledge that is both low yield for clinical practice as well as for internal medicine boards. In terms of question formatting, I believe this question bank does a decent job, with a mix of both long and shorter vignettes. It also offers the option to do "quick questions," which I think are valuable in terms of short-term fact recall. I also enjoyed the virtual diagnosis section of this question bank as it offered a quick review of high yield diagnoses that require residents to recognize pathognomonic visual findings.

4. Rosh Review ABIM Qbank:
Content rating-7/10
Format rating-7.5/10

This was my third favorite question bank as it definitely offers a good amount of information for boards, but I will also add that it tests on smaller details that are not necessarily relevant to performing well on boards. I would also add that many of the questions that are present in this question bank are far beyond the scope of the standard internal medicine physician and are not relevant to clinical practice, nor knowledge for internal medicine boards. If a resident has already completed UW and MKSAP 19 and is looking for another question bank to do passively prior to dedicated study for the internal medicine boards, I would recommend this question bank or the New England Journal question bank to do for practice. The format of the questions offers both long and short clinical vignettes which I think can be useful for mastering exam style questions.

5. New England Journal ABIM QBank:
Content rating-7/10
Format rating 7/10

I would say this question bank resource is just about tied in terms of utility with the Rosh Review Qbank. It offers a wide variety of high-yield information that is helpful to know for internal medicine boards, while also emphasizing smaller details that are not necessarily irrelevant. I would say on average that this tends to be a bit of a more challenging question bank, but still offers a variety of useful information for the PGY 3 resident. I would not start with this resource right away, instead emphasizing UW (#1) and MKSAP (#2), although this could be a valuable resource to do passive questions throughout the year if a resident has already finished both of the previously mentioned resources. One of the grievances that I had with this question bank is that some of the answers that are deemed to be correct on the question bank are arguable, and there is a good amount of lower yield information contained in this question bank as well. On average I would say that 70% of this question bank is relevant to the internal medicine boards, and about the same is relevant to clinical practice. 30% of this question bank offers lower yield information, or questions that are not necessarily representative of board relevant material nor clinical practice. The format of the questions tends to be a good mix of longer and shorter vignettes, and so I do still think that this is a good resource to do for passive practice throughout the year pending completion of the 2 highest yield question banks with emphasis on completion of UWorld.

6. Board Vitals ABIM Qbank:
Content rating-6/10
Format rating-6/10

I would only recommend this resource if a resident has completed all of the aforementioned question banks with the reason being that only ~50% of the material represented in this question bank is both relevant to internal medicine boards, and clinical practice. This question bank tends to test on smaller details as opposed to emphasis on broader clinical concepts. An example would be testing on inhibition of certain interleukin cytokines in pharmacologic processes, or asking about basic science biochemistry which is most certainly not relevant to clinical practice nor internal medicine boards. I would also add that the percentile rank function on this question bank seems to be broken-either that or over half of people that are taking this question bank are scoring over 80% correct. The question style for this question bank tends to be shorter style questions without many longer vignettes. In my opinion the best question bank is one that has a good mix of both long and shorter clinical vignettes.

7. MedStudy ABIM Qbank:
Content rating-4.5/10
Format rating-6/10

Now we begin some of the resources that I would not recommend using for the internal medicine boards. I cannot speak to the abundance of material/resources that this company uses outside of the question bank as I have only heard great things regarding them-however in terms of the question bank in its entirety, I cannot recommend it. There are often frankly incorrect details within the question bank, sometimes with typos in the clinical vignettes. I have actually written to this company multiple times regarding blatantly incorrect questions, and have had many questions removed. It can be very confusing for residents to understand core concepts, and in my opinion it does not make sense to increase the difficulty of memorizing concepts if one is unsure whether or not the concepts being presented are most accurate.

8. Knowmedge ABIM Qbank:
Content rating-3/10
Format rating-3/10

I would most certainly recommend staying away from this resource. Questions answers are often incorrect, outdated, and are frankly not representative of neither clinical practice nor board relevant material. I would say that the only useful part of this question bank is the 2-minute videos that are associated with each question. These can be useful, although it is not worth the purchase.

9. MedChallenger ABIM Qbank:
Content rating-4/10
Format rating-4/10

I would also recommend staying away from this resource. Questions test on information that seems to be outdated, and more often than not question answers are incorrect. I would also add that the interface of this question bank is absolutely atrocious, and exceedingly difficult to navigate.

=========

I would also like to offer what I thought the most predictive resource was in terms of actual score. There are several predictors which I think are rather accurate:
-Obviously the PGY 3 ITE is going to be very representative of the actual score on ABIM. However, in my opinion there is some degree of variability for ITE accuracy, and this is because certain residents take this exam more seriously than others. This creates individual variability and it can be difficult to predict the resemblance of actual outcome with PGY 3 ITE percentile. Regardless however, I do think that overall it is an accurate representation as I would argue that residents who do not take the PGY3 ITE very seriously will on average score a lower percentile than residents who take it very seriously.
-UW ABIM first pass percentile rank-this was rather predictive for me. My first pass yielded a 78% correct which was around 94th percentile. This was approximately 2-4 percentile points off from my actual score. In my opinion, second and third passes of this question bank are not always as representative because there is a recall bias in terms of remembering individual questions.
-Rosh Review predictive tool-this question bank offers a predictive score based on the percent correct in the ABIM question bank. My overall percent correct after my first pass was 85% with a predicted score of approximately 714. This overestimated my score slightly, but I do think that it could be accurate for scores in the 30th-80th percentile range.

There is also an algorithm developed by the Cleveland Clinic that predicts the likelihood of an individual resident to pass the internal medicine boards based on the 3 years of ITE scores and the number of call months in the last 6 months of residency. In terms of predictive value, it seems to be very accurate. The risk calculator can be found below:

Predicting the probability of passing the American Board of Internal Medicine examination

================

I hope this is helpful!

Congrats again to all who passed. For all who didn't it's just one test. Keep on pushing forward!
you did all those question banks and some of them multiple times?

you definitely deserve your score!!
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 user
i definitely was not competent in GI, in ITEs, other practice questions, real exam, residency practice or e

you did all those question banks and some of them multiple times?

you definitely deserve your score!!
Yes - I genuinely enjoy abim style questions. To me they are more like a morning crossword puzzle of sorts. Thank you!!
 
Top