***Official April 2006 Score Release Countdown Thread***

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In the continuing spirit of the tradition started last year, we will hold this as your official countdown til score release thread. You can use this as a countdown, but may also post in here general conversation if you are just going insane over this wait. Also, this may not be an exact of when the scores will come out, but we don't know how many days before the official 60 days are over they will come out. Last year, they came out around June 15th at 10pm. But this will give us a rough approximation.

Ok, let the fun begin.........

59 days and counting........

Lets pray for all of you and for my very best roommate, and two of my other bestest friends. 😀 May all come with good news in the following two months.

This is for the neurotic ones who just need somewhere to vent their frustration over the wait. 😛
 
CptCrunch said:
:laugh: I think you should go take a walk outside for a bit.


Yeah, yeah...my mom's response was "um, maybe you should check every hal hour or something instead"....but to be fair, I just got back from running errands, etc. for an hour or so...and am now cowering inside with the A/C (92 degrees! In New England! In June! Not cool!). ;-)
 
So here we go...

April 2003---> midnight
August 2004--> 2pm (the actual announcement day)
April 2005---> 10pm (night before) update: 9:58
August 2005--->
 
ironmanf14 said:
lol well good for you..... not everyone is as lucky as you, but how does that make it bull**** because you havent experienced it?

Smoking is a very touchy subject because it's so policy driven. Tobacco companies love to spend big bucks to pretend they are helping people quit smoking, but what you don't realize is that they spend big bucks getting people to do "research" on how smoking is not that bad for you (maybe stuff you read) There are so many opposing viewpoints, it's easy to get lost in it all.

about the ear infections thing, I did a poor job of explaining that, but this is specifically something in young children who are exposed to second hand smoke. There is data on this.


Consider this though..... Back in the 60's, tobacco companies swore, and with "supporting evidence and research" that smoking DOES NOT CAUSE CANCER IN ANY WAY. Well, we all found out what a load of bull**** that was.

The bull**** referred to your claim that smoking even a miniscule number of cigarettes caused health problems, like ear infections.

Don't get me started on second-hand smoke, which is a whole DIFFERENT issue entirely (and one whose studies are subject to even more manipulation.)

Believe it or not, some of the best research on the health problems caused by cigarettes and the ways to make them safer came from the tobacco companies themselves. The problem, of course, was that the research showed that smoking was harmful and the management of the company made their own statements, like what you capitalized above.

A great show, if it ever comes on again, is called "Tobacco Wars." I saw it on the history channel about 3-4 years ago. It talked about this kind of stuff.
 
Novagir18 said:
So here we go...

April 2003---> midnight
August 2004--> 2pm (the actual announcement day)
April 2005---> 10pm (night before) update: 9:58
August 2005--->
Are you sure about this data?
 
Novagir18 said:
So here we go...

April 2003---> midnight
August 2004--> 2pm (the actual announcement day)
April 2005---> 10pm (night before) update: 9:58
August 2005--->


lol :laugh:
 
MasterMD said:
i dont think you should be able to smoke in bars, but i do think that places should be accomodating to smokers... like have areas that are for smoking while still being in the bar.. or smoking lounges at airports... id really rather not be inhaling cigarette smoke ever, but i also dont like the smell of garbage trucks and we cant ban them from using the road...

Smoking in bars is yet a WHOLE different issue, IMHO.

Why shouldn't a bar owner be able to choose whether or not he/she allows smoking in their PRIVATE establishment? The owner owns the property, the building, etc. He should be able to allow ANY LEGAL ACTIVITY to occur there (or not.)

If you don't like the smoke, then don't go to that bar. Conversely, if most people felt the way you did, there would be plenty of non-smoking bars for you to go to.

This one seems like it could be sorted out by the free-market, and should not require the government intervention that has occurred over the past decade.
 
The scores are coming out tonight, I hope.
The website says "scores will be available June 20, 2006," yes?
For this statement to be wholly accurate, the scores would have to be uploaded by midnight EST.
It would make perfect sense for them to release the night before while user volume is down (slightly) rather than the morning of the announcement, when half of the continental U.S. is refreshing ThX.
Scores have been released the night before on previous occasions.
Makes sense to my crazed brain.

Z
 
Novagir18 said:
So here we go...

April 2003---> midnight
August 2004--> 2pm (the actual announcement day)
April 2005---> 10pm (night before) update: 9:58
August 2005--->

April 2003---> midnight
August 2004--> 2pm (the actual announcement day)
April 2005---> 10pm (night before) update: 9:58
August 2005---> 11:15 pm
 
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Zephyrus said:
The scores are coming out tonight, I hope.
The website says "scores will be available June 20, 2006," yes?
For this statement to be wholly accurate, the scores would have to be uploaded by midnight EST.
It would make perfect sense for them to release the night before while user volume is down (slightly) rather than the morning of the announcement, when half of the continental U.S. is refreshing ThX.
Scores have been released the night before on previous occasions.
Makes sense to my crazed brain.

Z

I like your logic :luck:
 
Novagir18 said:
April 2003---> midnight
August 2004--> 2pm (the actual announcement day)
April 2005---> 10pm (night before) update: 9:58
August 2005---> 11:15 pm
11:15 pm the night before?
 
jota_jota said:
Smoking in bars is yet a WHOLE different issue, IMHO.

Why shouldn't a bar owner be able to choose whether or not he/she allows smoking in their PRIVATE establishment? The owner owns the property, the building, etc. He should be able to allow ANY LEGAL ACTIVITY to occur there (or not.)

If you don't like the smoke, then don't go to that bar. Conversely, if most people felt the way you did, there would be plenty of non-smoking bars for you to go to.

This one seems like it could be sorted out by the free-market, and should not require the government intervention that has occurred over the past decade.


👍
 
jota_jota said:
The bull**** referred to your claim that smoking even a miniscule number of cigarettes caused health problems, like ear infections.

Don't get me started on second-hand smoke, which is a whole DIFFERENT issue entirely (and one whose studies are subject to even more manipulation.)

Believe it or not, some of the best research on the health problems caused by cigarettes and the ways to make them safer came from the tobacco companies themselves. The problem, of course, was that the research showed that smoking was harmful and the management of the company made their own statements, like what you capitalized above.

A great show, if it ever comes on again, is called "Tobacco Wars." I saw it on the history channel about 3-4 years ago. It talked about this kind of stuff.

do you do this research yourself? Or do you just watch the history channel?

like I said before, there are tons of opposiing viewpoints on smoking, but unless you are sitting in your lab researching all this stuff, I wouldnt claim "bull****" to anything. I think it's pretty common sense the inhaling smoke is bad for you, I don't care what anyone says.
 
OK, so now in 3/4 instances, the scores were released late in the evening ahead of the anticipated date. I like them odds.
 
ok time to stop refreshing SDN and eating cheerios out of box like 2 year old... i'm going back to real life.. see you guys later tonight probably!
 
Has anyone tried calling the AAMC today to ask about when scores will be posted (ie. tonight or tomorrow)?
 
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Novagir18 said:
Not sure, it'll take me an hour to find the forum again.

I'm fairly certain that the April 2005 scores came out in the evening...so that would mean 9:58 pm. I had a lot of friends that took the test and I swear they were able to access them at night.
 
jota_jota said:
Smoking in bars is yet a WHOLE different issue, IMHO.

Why shouldn't a bar owner be able to choose whether or not he/she allows smoking in their PRIVATE establishment? The owner owns the property, the building, etc. He should be able to allow ANY LEGAL ACTIVITY to occur there (or not.)

If you don't like the smoke, then don't go to that bar. Conversely, if most people felt the way you did, there would be plenty of non-smoking bars for you to go to.

This one seems like it could be sorted out by the free-market, and should not require the government intervention that has occurred over the past decade.

I agree with what you are saying, yea there should, as of now, most certainly be bars designated "smoking bars" so that people can choose whether or not they want to deal with smoke.

The problem with smoking is that it needs to be outlawed all together. Nobody starts smoking, nobody gets addicted, nobody cares, everyone just forgets about it. This obviously will never happen in our lifetimes, but will eventually happen someday, just like other drugs have been outlawed. Steps are being taken, something like 11 states have comprehensive indoor smoking bans already, and the problem is, smokers are now a minority because most people are smart enough to know it's bad for you, so smokers just can't do **** about it anymore.

Also, the effects of second hand smoke don't have to be long term. You realize that people are allergic to smoke just like they are to bee stings, so second hand smoke is not only a "cancer causing" type problem
 
06-07-2002, 11:42 AM
06-24-2003, 12:02 AM
06-14-2004, 07:06 PM
10-13-2005, 07:17 PM

All from SDN forums. Do the time conversions...haha
 
Novagir18 said:
06-07-2002, 11:42 AM
06-24-2003, 12:02 AM
06-14-2004, 07:06 PM
10-13-2005, 07:17 PM

All from SDN forums. Do the time conversions...haha

The 2002 and 2003 were on the old forums, i'm not sure what time system they use.
 
ironmanf14 said:
The problem with smoking is that it needs to be outlawed all together. Nobody starts smoking, nobody gets addicted, nobody cares, everyone just forgets about it.

Federal govt making all our decisions for us? That'll yield great results.

However, you can argue that anybody who has ever voluntarily smoked a cigarette should be ineligible for lung-cancer-related medicare/medicaid benefits, because if they take those, they are effectively robbing the rest of us every time they light up.
 
Ok, since SDN will crash ... a chat room has been set up if you guys wanna talk real time. More will be made if it is necessary.

If you copy and paste this link into your browser WHILE your AIM is running you should automatically be taken into the chat:

aim:gochat?roomname=SDN+MCAT+Release

You should be able to get to a chat room where you can talk about the MCAT live. This also will help alleviate the stress on the servers as the will most likely crash I will be adding additional rooms if requested.

****************************

Steps:
1) Log onto AIM.
2) Paste above into internet browser (IE, Firefox, Mozilla)

its stickied at the top of the page for you guys to use. I will add additional rooms as needed.
 
The only thing that keeps me from thinking that the scores are coming out tonight is that the data tables haven't been updated yet... Look, the AAMC were right all along 🙂
 
ironmanf14 said:
Also, the effects of second hand smoke don't have to be long term. You realize that people are allergic to smoke just like they are to bee stings, so second hand smoke is not only a "cancer causing" type problem

I am allergic to nicotine and my face swells up, nose clogs, skin itches, etc after being in a smokey bar for very long. If I try to smoke a cigarette I vomit. The smoking ban has been great for me personally. It is my personal experience also that both smokers and non-smokers alike are enjoying the smoke-free environments.

I am still ambivalent about the ban, however.

I can't speak for other states, but in New York, the ban is framed as a workplace issue and focuses on bar employees. The claim is that bar employees should not be subjected to an unhealthy work environment. I doubt that even the lawmakers would argue that this is a thinly veiled excuse for outlawing smoking.

That said, in NYC there are actually still a few smoking bars, but a certain percentage of sales has to be made from tobacco sales to qualify as a smoking bar. Additionally, no new smoking bars will be allowed. The hope is to lose the existing bars through attrition without directly putting them out of business. As a creative solution, the bar around the corner from me (Bar and Books) actually charges you if you don't buy any tobacco products. I assume that this is so that they can still claim this income as some sort of tobacco sale, even if no product actually changed hands, and remain a smoking bar.

Finally, bars in New York MAY have smoking sections as long as the section is segregated from the rest of the bar, the air filtration system is separate and no service occurs there (a smoking room, just like in airports). I have yet to see a bar which has attempted this, but I'm sure there is at least one.
 
So I recently called the MCAT people in DC and she said she didnt know and said she'd put me through to the right department, and i got this automated voice message. And the freaky thing was it said my first name ("though through a computer voice that said it completely incorrectly"), but nonetheless i though that was weird. So i followed the directions and I got to just more automated messages and couldn't talk to anybody real.
 
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ecoffin said:
I am allergic to nicotine and my face swells up, nose clogs, skin itches, etc after being in a smokey bar for very long. If I try to smoke a cigarette I vomit. The smoking ban has been great for me personally. It is my personal experience also that both smokers and non-smokers alike are enjoying the smoke-free environments.

I am still ambivalent about the ban, however.

I can't speak for other states, but in New York, the ban is framed as a workplace issue and focuses on bar employees. The claim is that bar employees should not be subjected to an unhealthy work environment. I doubt that even the lawmakers would argue that this is a thinly veiled excuse for outlawing smoking.

That said, in NYC there are actually still a few smoking bars, but a certain percentage of sales has to be made from tobacco sales to qualify as a smoking bar. Additionally, no new smoking bars will be allowed. The hope is to lose the existing bars through attrition without directly putting them out of business. As a creative solution, the bar around the corner from me (Bar and Books) actually charges you if you don't buy any tobacco products. I assume that this is so that they can still claim this income as some sort of tobacco sale, even if no product actually changed hands, and remain a smoking bar.

Finally, bars in New York MAY have smoking sections as long as the section is segregated from the rest of the bar, the air filtration system is separate and no service occurs there (a smoking room, just like in airports). I have yet to see a bar which has attempted this, but I'm sure there is at least one.

Feel free to discuss.

I think cigars should be exempted from smoking regulations. Yes, I realize that this makes no sense whatsoever.
 
PacoFan said:
So I recently called the MCAT people in DC and she said she didnt know and said she'd put me through to the right department, and i got this automated voice message. And the freaky thing was it said my first name ("though through a computer voice that said it completely incorrectly"), but nonetheless i though that was weird. So i followed the directions and I got to just more automated messages and couldn't talk to anybody real.

Any suggestions for getting a real person to talk to?
 
PacoFan said:
So I recently called the MCAT people in DC and she said she didnt know and said she'd put me through to the right department, and i got this automated voice message. And the freaky thing was it said my first name ("though through a computer voice that said it completely incorrectly"), but nonetheless i though that was weird. So i followed the directions and I got to just more automated messages and couldn't talk to anybody real.

that's scary. "PacoFan, this is the MCAT and I'm in... your... house..."
 
ecoffin said:
I am allergic to nicotine and my face swells up, nose clogs, skin itches, etc after being in a smokey bar for very long. If I try to smoke a cigarette I vomit. The smoking ban has been great for me personally.

I am still ambivalent about the ban, however.

I can't speak for other states, but in New York, the ban is framed as a workplace issue and focuses on bar employees. The claim is that bar employees should not be subjected to an unhealthy work environment.

That said, in NYC there are actually still a few smoking bars, but a certain percentage of sales has to be made from tobacco sales to qualify as a smoking bar. Additionally, no new smoking bars will be allowed. The hope is to lose the existing bars through attrition without directly putting them out of business. As a creative solution, the bar around the corner from me (Bar and Books) actually charges you if you don't buy any tobacco products. I assume that this is so that they can still claim this income as some sort of tobacco sale, even if no product actually changed hands, and remain a smoking bar.

Finally, bars in New York MAY have smoking sections as long as the section is segregated from the rest of the bar, the air filtration system is separate and no service occurs there (a smoking room, just like in airports). I have yet to see a bar which has attempted this, but I'm sure there is at least one.

Feel free to discuss.

I agree with the points you are making. It's a really complicated issue and there are bound to be businesses that are hurt by it, especially bars. I just think it's sad that we spend so much time, effort, and money into something that does not have to even exist in this country. The amount of money spent oh medical treatment for tocacco is ridiculous, and smoking is still the number one cause of preventable death in the country. I don't care how "free" smokers feel the need to be, if they weren't addicted in the first place, the wouldn't care at all and probably would be in favor of it. To put it simply, it's just plain stupid.
 
Schaden Freud said:
that's scary. "PacoFan, this is the MCAT and I'm in... your... house..."

Did anybody get a similar thing happen to them (hear a computer saying their name) when they called the DC office?
 
Pemberley said:
Federal govt making all our decisions for us? That'll yield great results.

However, you can argue that anybody who has ever voluntarily smoked a cigarette should be ineligible for lung-cancer-related medicare/medicaid benefits, because if they take those, they are effectively robbing the rest of us every time they light up.

EXACTLY

Unfortunately, they are still deserving of treatment because the federal govertment allows smoking, so yea it's pretty messed up
 
PacoFan said:
So I recently called the MCAT people in DC and she said she didnt know and said she'd put me through to the right department, and i got this automated voice message. And the freaky thing was it said my first name ("though through a computer voice that said it completely incorrectly"), but nonetheless i though that was weird. So i followed the directions and I got to just more automated messages and couldn't talk to anybody real.

I TOLD YOU guys, they have a tracking system. I wasn't joking. After three calls they'll start ducking points from your score.

Haha, that IS freaky.
 
PacoFan said:
Did anybody get a similar thing happen to them (hear a computer saying their name) when they called the DC office?

Ooooh I have a great idea for a movie: The Ring 3, MCAT Score Release.

:::Ring Ring Ring::::
"Uhhh I was wondering when scores would be available online?"
"Sssssssseeven days."

Then the dead chick crawls out of the THx screen and kills you.

(Ugh I better not get an O on the writing sample) :scared:
 
Schaden Freud said:
I think cigars should be exempted from smoking regulations. Yes, I realize that this makes no sense whatsoever.

That's okay, I think it should be legal to shoot cigar smokers (provided you have the proper permit to carry a gun), but maybe that's just me.
 
Anybody have a great recipe for Mac and Cheese that doesn't involve Kraft, Annie's and the like? You know, actual cheddar cheese and all. I've never made it, and would like to try a batch to go with that bottle of champagne worth the number of dollars of my MCAT score (thanks, Zimmie!).
 
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Schaden Freud said:
Ooooh I have a great idea for a movie: The Ring 3, MCAT Score Release.

:::Ring Ring Ring::::
"Uhhh I was wondering when scores would be available online?"
"Sssssssseeven days."

Then the dead chick crawls out of the THx screen and kills you.

(Ugh I better not get an O on the writing sample) :scared:


Oooooo, the intrigue.................. :idea:
 
Schaden Freud said:
Ooooh I have a great idea for a movie: The Ring 3, MCAT Score Release.

:::Ring Ring Ring::::
"Uhhh I was wondering when scores would be available online?"
"Sssssssseeven days."

Then the dead chick crawls out of the THx screen and kills you.

(Ugh I better not get an O on the writing sample) :scared:

Do you like....scarrrrry movies?

:laugh:
 
Pemberley said:
Federal govt making all our decisions for us? That'll yield great results.

However, you can argue that anybody who has ever voluntarily smoked a cigarette should be ineligible for lung-cancer-related medicare/medicaid benefits, because if they take those, they are effectively robbing the rest of us every time they light up.
So should alcohol drinkers be banned fromtreatment for liver related diseases? What about people that dont follow the government food pyramid, are they banned from heart related treatment?
 
Schaden Freud said:
Ooooh I have a great idea for a movie: The Ring 3, MCAT Score Release.

:::Ring Ring Ring::::
"Uhhh I was wondering when scores would be available online?"
"Sssssssseeven days."

Then the dead chick crawls out of the THx screen and kills you.

(Ugh I better not get an O on the writing sample) :scared:
nah itll be better if it was "60 days" ahhhhhhhhhh but i was only 1 dya away, then the girl will climb out and hand you the worst possible score ever
 
Anastasis said:
I've given up hope of scores tonight. Ugh. One more sleepless night. :barf:
Don't give up!!! Scores from last times were released the night before!
 
kevster2001 said:
So should alcohol drinkers be banned fromtreatment for liver related diseases? What about people that dont follow the government food pyramid, are they banned from heart related treatment?
the only thing is, alcohol has shown to have an added benefit to health (maybe not ethanol directly per se, but things like red wine, full of antioxidants, or even a beer a day apparently have an increased health benefit). and well food is food, it always has some health benefit regardless. Cigarette smoking has no benefit whatsoever, except that badass look 😉 just being a devil's advocate,
 
ironmanf14 said:
I just think it's sad that we spend so much time, effort, and money into something that does not have to even exist in this country. The amount of money spent oh medical treatment for tocacco is ridiculous, and smoking is still the number one cause of preventable death in the country. I don't care how "free" smokers feel the need to be, if they weren't addicted in the first place, the wouldn't care at all and probably would be in favor of it. To put it simply, it's just plain stupid.

Similar statements could be made about the obese.
 
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