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Discussion in 'Pre-Dental' started by kamandsam, Dec 4, 2008.

  1. kamandsam

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    Hi all Im looking for a little guidance on my plan of attack. I want to apply the earliest Im able next year which I think is May 1st? Does an early application improve your chances? So how would one structure studying and the date of the DAT exam? Is a Kaplan course beofre the exam a good way to go? Also are campus visits really important?:eek:

    Thank you for your help.
     
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  3. prydA

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    i think the earliest date is may 15th, but the app is available before. just fill out everything and just copy & paste on the day the 2009 app opens.

    an early application helps your app immensely, and a lot of schools fill quickly after reviewing the early batches (i.e. UOP)

    forecast how much studying you need and plan accordingly. i recommend taking the DAT around june 1st ish, to give yourself the most time to study as possible. if you are scared you might need to retake, taking it a little early can't hurt

    i personally thought kaplan didn't help that much, it's only useful if you have trouble self-motivating yourself to study. getting topscore/achiever/destroyer and re-reading your bio txtbk should be well enough, as well as reinforcing your weak points using sources such as wikipedia

    i don't think campus visits really change anything for the schools point of view, but if you have no idea about where to attend, don't hesistate. maybe let the schools know you're coming beforehand, so at least you're familiar to them

    g'luck!
     
  4. Doh Boy Fresh

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    Here is what you need to know:

    1. if you are fairly intelligent, you need about 1.5 months to rock the DAT, my friend studied 3 weeks and got a 20./20/19? something like that. IF you are of average to little above average you'll need about 2 - 2.5 months to study. - IF i were you, i'd sit down through Christmas break - like not have ANY fun, just study all day approx 12-15 hours a day and then sleep and eat. THat's it. NO showering for that month. Just study. You'll get a good score...you need that break to really get studying done because with the interruptions of school i don't know a single person that did well if they took it in the midst of the chaos of school. ... ENSURE you get the best score you can the FIRST TIME you TAKE IT. trust me. IT sucks to have to re-study the material and it's UNBELIEVABLE how much you forget and HOW QUICKLY you forget. ALSO you have to wait 3 months for a retake and you forget about 80% of everthing you memorized, gauranteed. you want to aim for a 20 or above on every section...don't take the test until you are sure you can get a 20 or above...there is a lot of info on SDN about what materials to use. I used Kaplan ONLY. nothing else. I don't htink Kaplan can get you the math score or Bio score. but it can get you all the toher scores.

    2. Make sure your extra curriculars are in order - there are liek 10 spots for "Extracurricular/Volunteer/Community Service" IF you want something to talk about take an international service trip - many ppl go through ISL -- Also, right now, create a resume so when the time comes to fill out your aadsas you have a resume to look off of, and you dont' forget anything.

    3. For dental experience - there are liek 5 boxes - I reccomend about 100 hours so that NO school is barred to you - i knwo that some schools have prereq.# of hours they expect you to have done.

    4. I think Work experience is the next section listed - this too has about 5 spots i think to fill in.

    5. Awards and scholarship section also has 5 spaces - here I personally filled in a couple things from highschool - THis is why it helps to have a resume you have kept updated for a while.

    6. Last but not least there are about 5 spaces for Research.

    *** DOn't let this scare hte bajeezes out of you - if you are lacking in some areas, it's okay, make sure you shine in others... this is hte good thing about d schools- they look at you holistically - and not everyone can be a "perfect candidate" with something to fill in every box.*********

    7. Around January or so, start asking professors if they would be willing ot write you a letter - at this point, assure them they have about 2 months to write the letter...they'll agree thinking they have a lot of time. :laugh:...anyhoos, at 1 month send them reminder letters - i've had teachers bail out on me - so I asked about 6 professors total. 2 from my major, 3 science teachers - and 1 random professor that loves me, or it could be a dentist... I personally feel that schools prefer academic letters. Ensure that they realize there is a letter to be written and not just a form that is filled out!!! Also, some schoools offer a letter managing service - go to your career center and check if they have such a service. IF they do, use it, it's more convenient and gauranteed. Also, if you don't get in the first year, they hold on to your letters - removing the hassle of having to ask professors all over again the next year.

    ***** THIS IS THE MOST IMP STEP - teachers bail often , make SURE you do it early and you ask more profs than you need!*********

    8. OK, Last but not least, think about your personal statement - it took me about 15 drafts and about 3-4 weeks to perfect. I got a group of friends to edit it many many many times.

    9. Next, open up your AADSAS on MAY 15th! remember that date. that is WHen applications start. Work on it, fill it out. All of your ground work is done. All you have to do is fill in the holes. I hit submit on June 2nd... I don't reccomend pushing it anythign past the first 2 weeks of June.

    10. Once you hit submit, work on your secondaries...I created word documents with a protocol to follow for each school **********DON"T WAIT FOR A REQUEST FOR A SECONDARY!!!!!!!********DO it immediately. Send in the money checks, send in the appropriate secondary questions they are often posted on each school's website. Do it immedaitely.

    If you follow this protocol you would be Dandy... now this may not be for everyone...

    NOW FOR THE LATEST DEADLINES

    - dont' submit AADSAS any later than the first 2 weeks of July. (the app takes 3-4 weeks to process)
    - don't dip any lower than an AA of 18
    - Don't get any lower than a 17 on any one seciton of the DAT
    - IF you have high GPA you want your DAT to reflect appropriately - AKA dont' have a 4.0 gpa and a 12 DAT.
    - Don't take the DAT any Later than mid first week of July. (it takes 1 week to get the DAT scores out to each indiv school by ADEA)

    Finally, lean back, relax, and wait for interviews - but even now, stay on guard. Look at bankstatements to check when cheques have been cashed... If peopel have heard back from schools and you have not, somehting may be wrong, call up and check up (at schools that LET YOU) on the status of your application...

    Then, go to interviews, prep off of the SDN database, go with confidence, dress to impress, and you will rock it.
     
  5. kamandsam

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    Wow. Thank you both so much for your thoughtful and detailed replies. So one other thing, is it right that you submit your app before you complete the DAT? If not how long before you submit do you need to take the DAT?
     
  6. Doh Boy Fresh

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    the application takes 3-4 weeks to process, the DAT takes 3-4 days to send out to schools. So, you want to submit the application ASAP. if you want them to reach schools at the same time, you have 3-4 weeks after you submit your app before you can take your DAT.

    with that said, there is NO set timeline by when you NEED to take the DAT - follow the guidelines suggested in my previous post, you'll be fine. for the DAT you really really just need to sit down and study like hard core - either over christmas break or over summer start as soon as school ends so around the beginning of may and buckle donw, study and take it june 30 but MAKE SURE you'll rock it...if not take it months ahead cuz if you screw up you have to wait 3 months to take it again. So, beginign of may to end june gives oyu 2 months, plenty of time to get a solid score.
     
  7. kamandsam

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    Great. So my thought before your kind response was to study all of December through mid March and then take Dat. I would be able to dedicate maybe 15-20 week. What do you think about that? Would that be to unfocused and stretched out?
     
  8. Doh Boy Fresh

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    I commend you if you can study for the DAT with school... I have met SEVERAL students that have tried that and not done well on the DAT... i personally (and i think MOST people would agree with me) you really need to just buckle down for about 2 months and just study for the DAT and do nothing else....

    I feel also, that studying for that long tires a person out...im a sprinter when i study... i liek to do one thing at a time obsessively until I finish it...so my studying for the DAT was no different.

    1. if you study that long you may forget wht you learned initially.
    2. if you have school you have to divert attention from the DAT for school stufff
    3. Studying for both class+ DAT adds to your stress level
    4. You really want to study for the DAT once and rock it your first time... I did the whole studying too long for the SATs and i got bored so by senior year I didn't study at all for my SATs..

    my 2 cents.
     

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