OSU-COM class of 2008

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Pilot said:
Apparently only some people were asked to do exit interviews with the Dean. Maybe they only wanted to hear positive things, and not ways to improve the institution, thus I wasn't asked to participate. 😀

i wouldn't worry too much about that. we had a nice vent session in ours, and i heard it was mundane compared to the meeting the next day. a couple of students went into cortisol induced fits in theirs.

personally, i think they could have found a better commencement speaker than a state health policy lawyer. i mean, come on, we'll be dealing with them the rest of our careers, can't we have one day away from them?

one thing i found funny-- he mentioned in his speech how his office staff "help us with all the complicated things with medicare/medicaid". newsflash here, but that government agency *is* the reason things are "so complicated" to begin with. oh well. i'd rather hear goljan talk about his pecs and boogers, lol.

one more thing-- how many ways can "osteopathic" get butchered? "osteospastic" "osteopactic" "ostepastastic" poor guy :laugh:
 
Is there a match list available?
 
DireWolf said:
Is there a match list available?

i could list the ones i remember that were in the commencement program today. unfortunately the ones that were labelled "internship" without a corresponding residency aren't going too helpful. off the top of my head we had a lot of FP, OB, and EM. one radiology, one neurosurg, 6 or so general surg, 3 or so orthos, a psych or two, 4 peds, two PM&R's, and 2 anesthesias. hopefully an official match list will be released soon. if i remember correctly the "oklahoma DO" magazine will publish the match list maybe as soon as next issue.
 
Homunculus said:
i could list the ones i remember that were in the commencement program today. unfortunately the ones that were labelled "internship" without a corresponding residency aren't going too helpful. off the top of my head we had a lot of FP, OB, and EM. one radiology, one neurosurg, 6 or so general surg, 3 or so orthos, a psych or two, 4 peds, two PM&R's, and 2 anesthesias. hopefully an official match list will be released soon. if i remember correctly the "oklahoma DO" magazine will publish the match list maybe as soon as next issue.

Thanks dog. Neurosurg eh?

edit: If you are a betting man, you should bet the house that I will NOT be one of those offered an exit interview. They certainly don't want to give me the pleasure of speaking my mind about the school. :laugh:
 
JohnnyOU said:
This is a way old post and someone may've (new word) already asked, but if you are going to finish your BS degree in 3 more years, how are you already accepted and enrolled at OSU med school ? 😕

J~


Not in 3 more years but in three years, as in within three years of high school graduation I will be (have, unoffically now) graduated with a BS from college instead of the normal 4 and starting med sch in august. that's all. sorry for any confusion.
 
OSUdoc08 said:
I plan to practice emergency medicine at a trauma center and become an EMS medical director.

🙄

Its good to have goals but I would suggest that you take it one step at a time. I think anyone who has or is going through this will tell you that very few individuals who enter medical school knowing exacly what they want to do end up in that field. Remember you have two years of didactics before you even know enough to be dangerous. Enjoy your summer (by your avatar it looks as though you are already doing it) and dont think about your carrier yet, just think about lots of sleep and lots of beer.

BK
 
Not to change the subject, but what is the deal with all the DO bashing on the other postings? Maybe it is different in other states, but here in OK, all the DOs are treated very well from what I have seen at work. There are a lot of things out there that could be worse than being a Dr. It sounds like a bunch of "poor, poor pitiful me" crap.... Sorry to jump on a soap box, but it has made me want to stay away from this forum.... I don't know about the rest of you, but I am becoming a DO by choice, not because it is easier to be accepted or because I want to do rural medicine. The DO phil. is what makes sense to me, I believe in healing the cause as much as the complaint. Sorry to bug you guys about this, but it has started to get under my skin and I know it should not.
 
DO's are in a much larger percentage in Oklahoma, even in non-rural areas. Some of the places these other people live may not have a DO school in the state, and very little contact with such physicians. Living in Texas, where such a school exists, there is some contact, however, such a large population with only one school, compared to 7 MD schools allows less people to be familiar with the profession here then in Oklahoma, where 1 of 2 schools is DO. I have just been lucky in having contact with DO's in all of my jobs. Funny enough, in the last 3 jobs I have had working as a paramedic, a DO was the Medical Director in each service.

It sounds like the debate is around money and things of that matter, something I don't concern myself with. I'm taking out loans and paying out-of-state tuition, so I'll probably owe more than these people do, but I'll get it paid back at some point. No need to bash the entire system because someone doesn't wish to pay money. The argument about opening too many new DO schools will not cause a job shortage---it will allow the ratio of DO's-MD's to slowly increase. Both are competing for the same jobs anyway, and as we all know, there is a healthcare shortage in many areas of the country, and without it being said, we also know which type of physician would likely practice in this area. Why not add physicians for this purpose?
 
I also am proud(pleased) to become a DO physician... and the money is not ever a reason to get into a profession.... PERIOD

Money is always variable in any profession and some will make tons while others make little comparatively... more realistic though is the fact that there are money grubbers out there who hurt people whether it be as a pilot, manual laborer or physician.... they are the ones that we need to be concerned about....
 
DrDad said:
there are money grubbers out there who hurt people whether it be as a pilot, manual laborer or physician.... they are the ones that we need to be concerned about....

Hey! ! Are you talking about me??

Just kidding.
 
The DO bashing in the state of OK does exist unfortunately. It's not near as bad as other places, but it does exist. I worked in western OK where the vast majority of doc's are MD's, and only a handful of DO's exist. When I was doing clinicals for my paramedic, I was following a DO around, and he said the discrimination was very bad in western part of OK. Even some of the people I worked with were predjudice against DO's. I've noticed that when I moved out to eastern OK there were many many more DO's, and love it! That means there are many more opportunities to shadow a DO. So, yeah, it does exist in OK, you just have to look around for it. 😎
 
who is interested in the dinner on ASD night - june 5th
 
Sounds good to me, I think Elaine was asking about this also... How about we go some place we can eat, play pool, and just goof a little....Some place like Magoo's,, or eat and then go out and do something a little less formal and relax a little?
 
I would be interested in going out somewhere casual and hanging out for a while.
 
yeah--we should go play pool that night. last time, we just had dinner, and I was only able to socialize with my half of the table--and then everyone left and went home.
 
I'd love to go out that night, but I have a wedding to go to, sigh.
On a side note, are we going to do anything to identify ourselves to one another at ASD, or are the name-tags going to do the talking?
 
Maybe we should bring our own extra little name tag or a sharpie to put our SDN name on our tag,,, just something to get the other students wondering why they don't have one.... Could peak the interest of a few more students about SDN...?
 
i like the way you think xray....

we could even make a name tag... dont you guys have any old tag holders?
 
We could all simply print out our avatars and name on a piece of paper and cut it down to tag size...this way they would be somewhat uniform.... Can't forget to add StudentDoctor.net at the bottom....

"AVATAR" Xray1Murphy
Patrick Ballard
StudentDoctor.net

Something like that....? Just all use the same font and size, they would look like we were organized or something.....hehehehe

PS. Has anyone else been blown away by this whole PlyCo (I think this is how it is spelled) Malpractice Insurance deal? Goes to show you how one person can bankrupt and entire company...The docs at work are all just freaking out,,, wondering what they are going to do for insurance and trying to get out of plyco before they are held accountable for something....

Sorry for those who have not heard, a PA (in anesthesia) infected over 40 patients with Hep.C by reusing the same mixing vial....40+ patient and counting... :scared:
 
Was that the case from Norman Regional Hospital?
 
xray1murphy said:
PS. Has anyone else been blown away by this whole PlyCo (I think this is how it is spelled) Malpractice Insurance deal?


PLICO (physicians liability insurance co) 😉

The status of med mal in OK is not good at the moment.
 
DrDad said:
who is interested in the dinner on ASD night - june 5th

I'm may not be able to make it due to wheat harvest. I'm going to try to make it to ASD, but will have to leave after.
 
Seriously, there needs to be something done about this whole Med Mal thingie. If PLICO goes the way of the buffalo, OK is going to experience a severe shortage of physicians, almost overnight. I think that all the doctors in the state, and future doctors, for that matter, need to storm the capital, and make those in charge see that Tort reform is the only way Oklahoma is going to have ANY doctors in the near future.

Just a little bit of rampage. Back to you, Troy
 
kwooder said:
I'm may not be able to make it due to wheat harvest. I'm going to try to make it to ASD, but will have to leave after.

You harvest your own wheat? You know they sell pre-made bread at Albertson's, right? :laugh:
 
xray1murphy said:
We could all simply print out our avatars and name on a piece of paper and cut it down to tag size...this way they would be somewhat uniform.... Can't forget to add StudentDoctor.net at the bottom....

"AVATAR" Xray1Murphy
Patrick Ballard
StudentDoctor.net

Something like that....? Just all use the same font and size, they would look like we were organized or something.....hehehehe

PS. Has anyone else been blown away by this whole PlyCo (I think this is how it is spelled) Malpractice Insurance deal? Goes to show you how one person can bankrupt and entire company...The docs at work are all just freaking out,,, wondering what they are going to do for insurance and trying to get out of plyco before they are held accountable for something....

Sorry for those who have not heard, a PA (in anesthesia) infected over 40 patients with Hep.C by reusing the same mixing vial....40+ patient and counting... :scared:

Why don't we just write that stuff on the nametags we are given?
 
Boomer said:
Check out the BS the OK lawyers are saying. These, of course, are the same people associated with the former State Senator who was trying to bring in more med mal lawsuits from Texas a year or two ago.....bastards.

http://www.newsok.com/cgi-bin/show_article?ID=1249757&TP=getarticle

Can you cut and paste the article or summarize the info for those of us who don't want to register for the site? Thanks.

And since I haven't read the article, how does the incompetence of a mid-level practicioner affect physicians, and why?
 
I think this is what you were looking for.

-Nathan


Doctors accused of 'scare tactics'
2004-05-25
By Jim Killackey
The Oklahoman

State doctors are playing "a dangerous game" and using "scare tactics" by threatening to leave or alter their practices unless significant changes in medical malpractice insurance rates are made, the president of the Oklahoma Trial Lawyers Association said Monday.

"Where are they going to go to find lower liability rates? Are they going to uproot their families, sell their houses and move to Texas, Kansas or Missouri?" questioned lawyer Tony Laizure of Tulsa.

"I feel sorry for physicians, but walking out on their patients isn't an appropriate response, and it isn't the correct solution to their problems.

"I wouldn't walk out on my clients," Laizure said.

As lawmakers this week attempt to reach an agreement on lawsuit reforms, the president of the Oklahoma State Medical Association said Monday that he expects 20 percent to 30 percent of state doctors will retire, relocate or restrict their practices because of skyrocketing malpractice premiums and other business-related drawbacks.

"We're in a financial crunch, and the trial lawyers have a lot of clout," said Dr. Mukesh Parekh, an obstetrics-gynecology specialist at Deaconess Hospital in Oklahoma City who heads the 5,000-member association.

Parekh, for example, said he hopes enough bill collections come in this week for his practice to meet its May payroll.

His current malpractice premium of $54,000 will raise to $87,000 a year in 2005, said Parekh, adding that his current doctor's salary is $160,000 a year.

The biggest losers in the malpractice controversy are patients and their physicians, the doctor said.

"Physicians are going to leave Oklahoma or alter their practices," Parekh said, noting that many of his colleagues have stopped delivering babies or are considering doing so because of high malpractice premiums.

Patients, in fact, can expect to travel farther and wait longer for appointments under current malpractice dilemmas, he said. Many physicians also will quit performing high- risk procedures or close their practices altogether, he said.

The Legislature is considering a $300,000 cap on noneconomic damages in malpractice cases. "If nothing is done, physician access will be a serious issue," Parekh said.

The state medical association, in fact, has scheduled an unprecedented, three-day "Physician Survival Summit" June 7-9 in Oklahoma City. It's designed to make doctors "better business people," Parekh said.

On top of medical malpractice issues, he said, are reimbursements for Medicare and Medicaid patients that aren't keeping up with physicians' expenses and overhead.

"We don't want the lack of affordable insurance to discourage physicians from practicing. We want to help them keep their doors open despite lower coverage limits," Parekh added.

Laizure contended Monday that the biggest offender in the malpractice situation is Physicians Liability Insurance Co., or Plico, which insures about 80 percent of Oklahoma's physicians.

That poorly managed company, he said, needs competition. "Doctors don't need to rush to the Legislature for a fix all of the time," Laizure said.

A reform passed by lawmakers in 2003 prompted the use of "expert witnesses" to determine a lawsuit's credibility. In a year, doing so already has decreased medical malpractice lawsuit filings by 55 percent in Oklahoma City and Tulsa, Laizure said.
 
😉 Cute, but Albertson's bread just doesn't have all the extras like bugs and chopped up weeds. Call me old fashioned. Their parking lots aren't well suited to wheat trucks either and can you believe they don't want to buy wheat by the bushel?

OSUdoc08 said:
You harvest your own wheat? You know they sell pre-made bread at Albertson's, right? :laugh:
 
thx for the informative article
 
kwooder said:
😉 Cute, but Albertson's bread just doesn't have all the extras like bugs and chopped up weeds. Call me old fashioned. Their parking lots aren't well suited to wheat trucks either and can you believe they don't want to buy wheat by the bushel?

albertson's sucks...

so what is the deal Kwooder.... why the harvesting?
 
hey, I know I don't contribute much (anything) but is this an open invite to all on sdn for the asd (i have a thing for initials...)?
 
That's what we do. We cut the wheat and haul it somewhere to sell. It's been my summer job since I was 12. I don't wear cowboy boots and I wasn't in FFA, but farming has taught me many things over the years.

DrDad said:
albertson's sucks...

so what is the deal Kwooder.... why the harvesting?
 
So are you going to continue doing this while in medical school?

And maybe you can help out us poor single med students who can't afford bread?
 
the dinner is an open invite to all OSU ASDer's, current students, or former students!
 
I'm sure I'll do it some, cuz I'll need whatever cash I can get. Maybe we can have a class project where we grind our own flour and make our own bread. "Made by DOs for DOs"

OSUdoc08 said:
So are you going to continue doing this while in medical school?

And maybe you can help out us poor single med students who can't afford bread?
 
hey got a funny one for you all

actually got asked if DO's were those drugsmoking docs?

I just knodded my head and said "you must mean ND's!"

how is that for passing the buck!
 
Don't feel bad Kwooder, I have harvested a few soy beans, peanuts and cut a couple of bales of hay before also...
 
The largest land I have lived on is a 1/4 acre house in south Dallas. I currently live in a 1/6 acre Patio home in north Dallas. Other than that I have lived in apartments. I'll be living in an apartment in Tulsa.

No farming for me. 😀
 
Hey Ttowners, in what area do you live? what is it like?

We sold our house and are seriously looking now.
 
I bought a house a couple of months ago around 11th and Harvard. It is an easy drive to the school and is really close to Cherry St, Utica Square and a bunch of other places we won't be able to enjoy when school starts. Most of the houses are pretty old but have a lot of character. The neighborhoods around seem really nice, but I have yet to move in since I am renting it out at the moment.
 
I'm just referring to houses here...a lot of OSU-COMers live along Riverside. You also should consider some of the outlying towns like Jenks, Sapulpa, Sand Springs, Owasso, Glenpool.
 
When we first moved to Tulsa, we rented a house over in Berryhill, about 5 minutes from the school....Now we own a house down here in Broken Arrow....Seems like there are a few of us down here...
 
if you have the money Berryhill is awfully nice in the good neighborhood

we currently live in Brookside, and moving this next week to Mannford
 
I'm living in an apartment at 71st & Lewis/Peoria, starting July 16th.

Ok, well that doesn't help, but since everyone else is tellin' where they live I thought I would too.
 
parents house 31st and memorial still for sale 3 bedroom 1 bath, right next to highway 10 min from osucom if you drive like me 15 minutes tops 10 minutes to downtown for sure. Not a crappy neighborhood either ;D. Pm me for more info.
 
Hey guys I sent a bulk email through Leah to let people know about the dinner.... I wrote that we are thinking Mexicali Border Cafe... but I also think that Freddies on New Sapulpa Road could be a great place and very accomodating for a larger party too. Hopefully we will pick up a few more people that will want to attend this way!

It would be nice to have thirty in attendance if not more...
 
Also, as always, EVERYONE is invited.... including current, past and most of all future students.
 
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