~~~ OSU-COM Class of 2010 ~~~

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nope, just 4 years. Of course, a huge percentage of med peds folks go on to do a fellowship of some sort, from what I understand.

and I didn't realize they actually had a neph fellow this year. that's what I get for being away from the hospital. :oops:
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All this talk about me is flattering. This totally proves my point - you all have a crush on me. It must be noted that Idio and Hern have recently moved beyond the crush phase and have ventured into the creepy phase.

To answer the original inquiry - I did have the pregnancy coverage until I got my tubes tied.
 
hmm, now that you've gotten your tubes tied, maybe we can chat. haha
 
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The converstion is making me ready to start. Can August get here already
 
jx2sx2 said:
The converstion is making me ready to start. Can August get here already
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Don't worry. The enthusiasm will quickly diminish as the first gross anatomy exam approaches.

Enjoy it while you can...
 
Was anything said at the last admitted student day regarding a tablet pc requirement? I'm a Mac snob, but I guess I will submit to the school's requirements.
 
ive got some dentist appointments comin up late august is it better to make them in the morning or afternoon?
and the tablet pc isnt really required, it will be for the next class coming up, i dont think im gonna get a tablet there a bit expensive, and i dont like studyin on the comp 2 much
 
Abe said:
ive got some dentist appointments comin up late august is it better to make them in the morning or afternoon?
and the tablet pc isnt really required, it will be for the next class coming up, i dont think im gonna get a tablet there a bit expensive, and i dont like studyin on the comp 2 much
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Make the appointment Monday morning or Friday afternoon if it's after school has started. If it's during orientation week, make it as late in the day as possible. You always get out early, but no promises.

You'll learn to love the computer. The board exams are all on the computer.
 
Okay, I have a question. About how much did everyone pay for their microscope, be it from a second year student or not? At the Admitted Students Day, we were told that the class of 2010 would be the last to have to purchase a microscope. So, I don't want to spend a lot of money if I'm not going to be able to resale the microscope to an incoming MS-1.
 
sorry you guys are stuck being the last. OSUdoc08 bought my scope...I'm sure he sold it off long ago. Your second year (who'll be assigned to you during the summer) will likely have a scope to sell. I'd say that you absolutely shouldn't spend more than $600-700 since it won't be so easy to re-sell. Preferably less, though.
 
DrMom said:
sorry you guys are stuck being the last. OSUdoc08 bought my scope...I'm sure he sold it off long ago. Your second year (who'll be assigned to you during the summer) will likely have a scope to sell. I'd say that you absolutely shouldn't spend more than $600-700 since it won't be so easy to re-sell. Preferably less, though.
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Thanks. I was worried a little before going to Admitted Students Day because I thought we'd be required to buy both a microscope and a tablet. Whew! That's a relief! And, we are supposed to have the scope during orientation week - a whole week before we get our loan disbursements! How do most people swing these kind of expenses before the loan checks come in?
 
Also, alot of the 2nd yrs are now RENTING their scopes for a much lower price than you would spend buying it. This helps you to pay less, and also it leaves your 2nd yr w/ the responsibility of selling the scope once your first semester is over!!
 
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steponie said:
Also, alot of the 2nd yrs are now RENTING their scopes for a much lower price than you would spend buying it. This helps you to pay less, and also it leaves your 2nd yr w/ the responsibility of selling the scope once your first semester is over!!
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I'm not sure why a 2nd year would agree to that. I don't see how it benefits them in any way.
 
mshheaddoc said:
They've made bonding attachments and don't want to let it go.
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Whatever the opposite of a "bonding attachment" is describes how I felt about mine.
 
I was told that we get our MS2 assignments a couple weeks before orientation is that true or will be get that information much early on?
 
Alot of the 2nd yrs have other plans for their scopes, like passing it on to a friend, or selling it on ebay. Also, the class as a whole doesn't feel comfortable w/ dumping the responsibility of a microscope w/ no prospective 1st yr student to sell it to on their incoming MS1. On the 2009 class forum, several of the 2nd yrs are planning to rent their scopes, because, believe it or not, alot of us are science nerds and like having a scope, as long as Dr. Meek isn't breathing over your shoulder!!
 
I have another Q about the TRMC residency programs. I saw on their website that they have a fast-track IM program. First of all, how much time does that actually take off of the internship/residency process. Second, what is the difference btw IM and FP?
Thanks
 
The MS2 assignments are being made right now. The 2nd yrs have been given the option of choosing someone they know. If they don't know anyone, or have anyone in particular in mind, they are going to start assigning 1st yrs to them in the next week or so. You may or may not find out who your 2nd yr is, depending on how active your 2nd yr is in reaching out to you. They are supposed to call you and talk to you during summer break, but for some people, they didn't hear from their 2nd yr until the week of orientation. Yeah, they got a letter from the school telling them the name of their MS2, but a few people didn't meet them until they actually got to school. Because of alot of hurt feelings on the part of the current MS2s over the amount of "welcome" they got from their 2nd yrs (decorating lockers, etc.) the current MS2s are talking about standardizing what is done for all of the incoming MS1s so there are not some getting alot of goodies and some w/ none. I haven't heard much on how that is actually coming along, but the thought is there.
 
steponie said:
I have another Q about the TRMC residency programs. I saw on their website that they have a fast-track IM program. First of all, how much time does that actually take off of the internship/residency process. Second, what is the difference btw IM and FP?
Thanks
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For the fast tracks the internship counted towards the residency so it is a total of 3 years. The other "track" is to do a traditional rotating internship & then officially join the IM program. I was told my one of the TRI/IM folks that this methods adds 6 months on to the residency. This particular person only did the TRI because it had much less call so it let her be home with her baby more. I haven't heard of anyone else doing the medicine residency with the TRI, though.


Here are some FM vs IM differences. Some are generalities but give you the basic idea.
FM deals with all ages, IM deals with adults only
FM does OB (or at least can if they choose), IM doesn't
FM tends to care for more "routine" issues leaving IM to handle the really complex patients (although some FM docs like to have some complex patients, a lot of the ones I've seen will refer the train wrecks to IM)
While in training, FM spends much less time in the ICU.
IM are more likely to sub-specialize
 
Thanks! That told me exactly what I wanted to know! Do you know anything about the FM program at TRMC? Specifically, I want to know if the FM residents get to perform alot of their own surgeries, deliveries, etc. during Ob/gyn. I'm going to be a small town doc, and I want to deliver babies, so I need to pick a residency program that will give me TONS of experience in that. I've heard that Via Christi was really good, but I'd rather stay in Oklahoma. Also, does anyone know much about the St. Anthony's residency program?
Thanks again!
 
steponie said:
Thanks! That told me exactly what I wanted to know! Do you know anything about the FM program at TRMC? Specifically, I want to know if the FM residents get to perform alot of their own surgeries, deliveries, etc. during Ob/gyn. I'm going to be a small town doc, and I want to deliver babies, so I need to pick a residency program that will give me TONS of experience in that. I've heard that Via Christi was really good, but I'd rather stay in Oklahoma. Also, does anyone know much about the St. Anthony's residency program?
Thanks again!
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Not really, while there are some of the FM attendings who do alot of OB with c/s, etc, they really don't do that much, there are several grads and recent grads who went on and did an OB fellowship after completing the FM program.
 
Do you know how long the fellowship is? If you do a fellowship, are you double certified?
Thank you SO much for all the help!
 
I believe it is one year.
If you do FM at OSU and let them know you're wanting to do deliveries, they'll help you get as many as you can. That's what they did with someone just graduating and going on to an OB fellowship (in Tulsa).

The fellowship doesn't include any board cert in OB as a specialty, but it is basically additional credentials on the FM board cert.
 
SWEET!! Thank you for all the info!! Ya'll are SO helpful and I KNOW you are busy w/ rotations and such!! Just want you to know that I really appreciate you!
Thanks again!
 
Athena918 said:
hmm, now that you've gotten your tubes tied, maybe we can chat. haha
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aha! I knew it... another closet DireWolf fan comes out. how you doing?
 
Athena will be in Europe for the rest of the summer, so don't expect a reply anytime soon....
 
Anyone have any bow staff skills?
 
I've been procrastinating this for a while, but I need to get on the band wagon regarding looking for an apartment/condo. Can any of you recommend good places that a lot of students live. Also, what is the commuting time from each of these residences? I was unable to come to both Student Days, so am completely lost in looking for an apartment. I remember during my interview, an older student recommended a new set of condos near or in the downtown area that many students seemed to be moving into. Anyone know of this place? Any advice would be helpful. Thanks in advance.
 
Hi all!
If any of you have been counting down the days, you will know that we have a little over a month left before we will be sitting in orientation. One thing that we have yet to do, however, is to get together for a pre-orientation party. I thought that maybe we could all meet up at a local park, bring our families, grill some burgers and dogs, and get to know each other. For alot of people, it really helps to know a few faces going into it, and it will help us to start our comraderie right away. The MS2s have set a good example for us of a united class by having several of these get-togethers throughout the year, and I thought maybe we could continue that sense of family by starting our own get-together traditions. If this sounds good to anyone else, lemme know what dates would work for you, and we will start planning it. Originally, I was thinking of La Fortune or Helmerich park, but if anyone has any better ideas, let's have them!

Thanks!

Oh yeah, and we could also make it a school-wide party so that we could meet some upperclassmen. Since we depend on the MS2s for alot of things throughout the year, it might me a good idea to get to know them. While the MS3s and 4s will be scheduling around clinicals, they might want to see the up-and-comers and give us some advice too. If you prefer it to stay w/ just our class, we can do that too. Just let me know what you want to do. If you would like to discuss it privately, just send me a message!

Thanks again! :D
 
Well, sounds interesting. If enough people are intested then it sounds like a good time to me. Keep us posted.
 
Just got an email from Chad today with the login info on the osu forum for our class. Talk to ya in there.
 
I got accepted today!!!! :D And I think a get-to-know-everyone party sounds like a fantastic idea. :D
 
Congrats MCAT! I suggest getting together before orientation. It was nice to be able to see a few familiar faces. We all met up at a local bar the week before orientation started.
 
Do any of you attend school on the Indian Health Service scholarship? I am having trouble deciding whether I should accept it or not and would love to hear the reasons someone did or didn't decide to take it. Thanks!
 
mcat shmcat said:
Do any of you attend school on the Indian Health Service scholarship? I am having trouble deciding whether I should accept it or not and would love to hear the reasons someone did or didn't decide to take it. Thanks!
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Reasons not to do it:

-Requirement of service in an undesirable area
-Commitment to a specialty you may not be interested in

Reasons to do it:

-Don't care where you live or work for just a couple of years
-Expect to work in the specialties accepted by IHS
 
How much debt is average for an OSUCOM student and approximately how long would it take to pay it off as an internal medicine specialist? I want to take the IHS scholarship, but I don't want to end up engaged to a man that has a job in CA but I can't move there because of my obligations to the indians. Pretty much, can someone please predict my future? Thanks!

Also, how do I find a roommate?
 
If you're in state and don't have a family to support, you can certainly get through with $120K or less of debt. How long it takes to pay it off depends on how frugally you live once you're done with residency. I have *way* more debt than I just listed (I was sole support for 3 people for more than 2 years of med school and had a lot of medical expenses) and our plan is to have it paid off 5-7 years. We'll live quite decently but not extravagantly in that time.

As far as IHS goes, in general I'd recommend taking out loans instead of being tied to repayment in a primary care specialty. Once you're done, IHS and other organizations offer payback deals so if you wait until you're done you have freedom to choose any specialty, where you live, and how long you're tied to them. If you sign up in med school you reduce your choices tremendously...they require that you pursue primary care and they can decide where you're going to do your repayment time (or severly limit your choices of where you'll be).

Even if you're gung-ho I'm-gonna-do-rural-family-medicine now, you may find out during medical school that it isn't really your thing and that you really love radiology instead. It is best to keep your options open so that you can freely choose the specialty you end up really wanting to pursue.
 
mcat shmcat said:
How much debt is average for an OSUCOM student and approximately how long would it take to pay it off as an internal medicine specialist? I want to take the IHS scholarship, but I don't want to end up engaged to a man that has a job in CA but I can't move there because of my obligations to the indians. Pretty much, can someone please predict my future? Thanks!

Also, how do I find a roommate?
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Max loans are $38,500 for in-state students, and $44,500 for out-of-state students, per year.

You have to decide what is more important to you, whether it be lack of debt, flexibility with living location, etc.
 
mshheaddoc said:
A few of the students I know maxed out federal aid and use the private aid to help with a few big expenses. Its not unusual to end up with $150K in debt if you finance school all yourself. You'll be making enough to pay it back as you have plenty of time to pay it back over the years. There are pros and cons to every situation and you have to do what is good for you in this particular situation. Don't worry about the future if you have no control over it.
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I'll have about $215,000 in debt when I finish as an out-of-state student, when combined with undergraduate debt. Based on the 10-year repayment period, the debt will not be difficult to manage.
 
crap. :laugh: I deleted my post. Oh well at least you quoted it for posterity. I should have put most "instate" students. Now I need to review the functions of how to edit and not delete my posts.
 
I had the IHS scholarship for my senior year in undergrad and I am accepting it for med school, too. I know I could take out loans to pay for med school, but IHS gives you a monthly stipend plus pays for all your books, tuition, etc. How many people can say they had med school paid for? I have spoken with Michael Berryhill from IHS many times because I, too, was worried about having to move to do payback, but he assured me that you could pretty much go wherever you choose as long as the need exists in that area for your specialty. There are many IHS facilities in Oklahoma, which is where I plan to stay. As far as specialties go, there are limits but if you are pretty sure you want to go into an acceptable field, I would go for it. Hope this helps.
 
I'm looking at a place near Cherry Street. Anyone know if it is relatively central to shopping, restaurants, etc?
 
Cherry Street is near everything and a very popular place. It is usually a lot more expensive area to live in....
 
please dont speak unless you have first hand information

undesirable area is a matter of reference, and the IHS facilities for the most part are not the greatest, but that is assumed...

There is no such thing as commitment to a specialty that you are uninterested in, you are able to go into most any specialty, as far as primary care goes, as long as you remain in primary care there will be Absolutely no problems with specialty,

it has its pros and cons

good luck

DrDad
OSUdoc08 said:
Reasons not to do it:

-Requirement of service in an undesirable area
-Commitment to a specialty you may not be interested in

Reasons to do it:

-Don't care where you live or work for just a couple of years
-Expect to work in the specialties accepted by IHS
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