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[jdpharmd?]

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First: Do the "2nd" 100 students get their money back for the first year that is TOTALLY wasted?

Second: Still not ACPE accredited.

Third: This plan is an oxymoron if I've ever heard one. Take the 100 "brightest" students and ask them if they would like to stay and keep paying tuition at a school that it bound to fail. Hopefully at least the top 50 are able to get in somewhere else, or just leave all together without dropping another $30k+ for next year. I think it's much smarter to extory the bottom 100 students.

PS. What happens to students who have apps/acceptance pending for this coming year?

PPS. There is no way that ACPE has anything to do with this. This is complete BS to decrease the class size in a last ditch attempt to appease ACPE (good luck...)

Truly a circus....

 

[pharmDman8]

This decision to only allow the top 100 students to advance a scam. If the students of HICP do not see this then there is no hope for them. Having been accepted to a school, and only allow the top 100 student out of 200+ student advance is not right. Did HICP tell the student this information when they were first accepted?....NO! My school has a GPA cut-off, but that was known well in advance and it does not limit the number of students who advance (only a handful do not advance).

If HICP did not let the students know that only the top 100 students to advance when they were accepted, then they are STEALING money from the other 100+ student.

I truely hope that the students of HICP do NOT return to this "school" next year, including the top 100. Please reconsider another school or career. Take your one year lost in tuition, learn from it, and move on!

Best of luck to the students of HICP.

 

[DayDreamer]

First: Do the "2nd" 100 students get their money back for the first year that is TOTALLY wasted?

Second: Still not ACPE accredited.

Third: This plan is an oxymoron if I've ever heard one. Take the 100 "brightest" students and ask them if they would like to stay and keep paying tuition at a school that it bound to fail. Hopefully at least the top 50 are able to get in somewhere else, or just leave all together without dropping another $30k+ for next year. I think it's much smarter to extory the bottom 100 students.

PS. What happens to students who have apps/acceptance pending for this coming year?

PPS. There is no way that ACPE has anything to do with this. This is complete BS to decrease the class size in a last ditch attempt to appease ACPE (good luck...)

Truly a circus....

The "2nd" 100 students have to pay next year but they don't have to pay their last year b/c HICP would have money by then.

The students that were supposed to come in next year are not allowed to come in until the year 2006-2007.

 

[museabuse]

better buy them up now, they will be a collector's item.

http://www.iwstores.com/default.aspx?storeid=29B05405-11F2-4CDB-8243-9726332A36CB

 

[BMBiology]

The students that were supposed to come in next year are not allowed to come in until the year 2006-2007.

If they are not accepting 1st year students this fall, shouldn't they refund the application fee/deposit to those who applied this year?

 

[bananaface]

This whole situation is ridiculous.

 

[DayDreamer]

This is stupid. They want the "2nd" 100 students to pay tuition for next year but they cannot take classes next year?

If they are not accepting 1st year students this fall, shouldn't they refund the application fee/deposit to those who applied this year?

The "2nd" 100 students are just repeating their first year. They just won't pay their last year which would be year 4. I hope I made that a little clear.

 

[BMBiology]

The "2nd" 100 students are just repeating their first year. They just won't pay their last year which would be year 4. I hope I made that a little clear.

I notice you edited your previous post so I edited my post as well.

Why are students forcing to repeat classes that they have already passed?

 

[JTD1972]

The "2nd" 100 students are just repeating their first year. They just won't pay their last year which would be year 4. I hope I made that a little clear.

The "2nd" 100 students should get next year free and not have to pay for "year 1" twice. Why get "year 4" for free? Probably because there will be no "year 4"

 

[ucrsandstorm]

I'm sad to hear about what's going on over there in Hawaii.

How unfortunate people choose to be unethical, unprofessional, and greedy.

I'm sorry I cannot be there to fight but everyone must make their own decisions as I have made my own.

If people don't know by now, I withdrew from HICP because I could not stand by and support the conduct of the school. I could not sit comfortably and smile at my classmates, “ALL” of them and tell them everything was going to be fine. I left without a dime in my pocket from the school, no refund, none of my tuition back.

When I was enrolled, I was told by Hasan during an executive meeting, ACPE wanted more student evolvement, “decision making from bottom up” in general but more specifically in regards to the "enrollment problem".

Were students involved in any of these enrollment decisions? Or were they kept in the dark?

Who are the board of trustees? How many trustees are there? Not two people right?

Has ACPE been contacted to verify what HICP has stated?

I don’t want to “beat a dead horse” but there were many instances where statements made by Hasan or Monroe turned out to be completely untrue. I hope they are not playing on the hopes and fears of students. It would be awful for students to make a decision about financial and personal sacrifices based on false information and empty promises.

Good luck to the HICP students.

 

[DayDreamer]

I notice you edited your previous post so I edited my post as well.

Why are students forcing to repeat classes that they have already passed?

Good Question. I'm not so sure, maybe so they can be a better pharmacist?

 

[Glycerin]

It's ILLEGAL??!?!?!? BUT they said that ACPE was the one who thought of this plan.

You and your classmates already know how to verify this - contact ACPE yourselves.

 

[Jeddevil]

If people don't know by now, I withdrew from HICP because I could not stand by and support the conduct of the school. I could not sit comfortably and smile at my classmates, “ALL” of them and tell them everything was going to be fine.

I wish people like you and JohnHICP well in the future. You two are smart enough to see that there is no hope with the scam that is HICP and have swallowed your pride, taken your lumps in the pocketbook, but moved on. We all have to swallow our pride from time to time, take our lumps, learn from them and move on. Being able to admit a decision was a poor one, learn from it, and move on is an admirable trait. Good luck to the smart HICP students who will find their place at other schools and do well in life overall.

Funny coincidence that the only two HICP students I can remember on here that can actually write the English language have both left the school and moved on.

For the rest of you who are not smart enough to see what a scam HICP is, and who actually stay there and give them more of your (probably your parents) hard earned money, I have no sympathy for you. If you can't see that you are getting screwed by now, and you continue to throw good money after bad, then you deserve it. Hell, there are almost 30 pages here on this one thread stating the unethical things HICP is doing, yet people are still there.

To close, in words you all might understand:

School HICP one bad, ship sinking not, already shrunk has it. Dean with no experience pharmacy idea stupid and desperate.

TAKE YOUR LUMPS AND MOVE ON! If you all work hard enough and want it bad enough, you can improve your grades and get in other legit schools in the future.

Museabuse: those shirts were as big a rip-off as the school itself. Collectors item or not, $50+ bucks for a tacky looking polo hurts. 😱

 

[lisi]

Announcement made by Dave Monroe (since HICP is taking ACPE's advice and following the "hands off approach from corporation"?????): HASAN has been elected by the "board of trustees"??? as the official DEAN of HICP and by a majority vote???..........no longer an Interim....

Does this meet Standard No.8 for Qualifications for a Dean by the ACPE: Quals. of a dean should include a degree in pharmacy and/or a strong understanding of contemporary pharmacy and health care systems??? Hasan himself stated in a previous townhall/state of college address that he does not have any pharmacy experience, and he said he hopes many of the "students" in HICP who questioned him about his experience in the field did and should have that experience in pharmacy.....he claims to know more about other stuff though????.....I can't tell you what he meant by this, but I am assuming it has to do w/ special education???? I believe his job before coming to this program was at a high school working with special ed and coaching football as an assistant.

Anyways, the news on today's meeting:

First of all, the infamous PLAN A was REJECTED by ACPE, as stated by DEAN HASAN himself. This sounds similar to "WITHDRAW" and a pattern being established wouldn't you say?

New plan (briefly) = top 100 students (based on overall academic status in HICP) can stay and continue P2 next year, next group of 100 can continue but have to START OVER P1 year, and last group of about 31 students are ALTERNATE group (not sure about them, but it seems they still have status w/ school; they have to finish their pre-requisites or something to get back in the school since it seems now even more so that they were OBVIOUSLY ACCEPTED TO TAKE THERE $$$$ as a way to start other programs, like the dental program, etc..........I mean WHY ELSE WOULD THEY TAKE STUDENTS NOT QUALIFIED....RIGHT???) Oh yeah, everyone only has to pay for three years if they make the cut b/c it will be drastically more academically challenging next years to come.....additional years after the 3rd year will be at no cost......now this must make people feel a whole lot better right??? NOT 😡

It is hard to believe that they took in unqualified ppl and now are making them go thru this mess and letting them know that "it is a golden opportunity" and that basically, they can't get in anywhere else b/c it is a lot of hassle (sp?) to apply over again and they probably KNOW that many in the school (BUT NOT ALL) are not qualified or prepared as of yet, or if ever, to even begin a Doctor of Pharmacy program.........

Lastly, ALL students have until Friday by 4pm to decide if they want to stay with the school or not. Now is this a fair enough amount of time to make a decision???? 👎

Just in case there are still "believers" out there, I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents worth:

1. There was no way (given what was posted here about the plan) that Plan A was going to be acceptable to ACPE.

2. There is no way that "Plan B" is going to be acceptable either to ACPE or to a regional accreditation body (remember, HICP will need to obtain regional accreditation from WASC in order to be in compliance with the new ACPE standards). While not illegal in the felony/misdemeanor sense, this plan violates any accreditation standard from any accrediting body. If students meet the qualifications to advance from one year of the program to the next, there is no way HICP can stop them from advancing. Here's your lawsuit. If you're in the second or third tier of students who are being required to repeat year one or be on some mysterious alternate list and you've met the criteria put forth in your student handbook/catalog (hopefully you have one) to advance, you've got all the ammunition you need. The other, more general problem, with Plan B is that I think that HICP administrators have missed ACPE's points to them...there are problems/concerns/issues that go beyond numbers of students; therefore, implementing Plan B is not going to solve all of their accreditation problems. And by the way, if they are truly "listening to ACPE", I would be shocked if ACPE put their stamp of approval on Plan B. One of ACPE's major concerns is protecting students...they wouldn't condone a major hose job like Plan B.

3. ACPE would also be contradicting their own standards to condone Hasan as a Dean (this was pointed out also on an earlier post). The new standards are very specific about the Dean having a pharmacy background...now there may be some room for interpretation, but I don't see any even remote connections between Hasan and pharmacy (unless you count perhaps having a prescription filled).

I hope some light bulbs finally come on amongst some of the students there and I am truly sorry for this tragic situation.

 

[J Lucas]

New plan (briefly) = top 100 students (based on overall academic status in HICP) can stay and continue P2 next year, next group of 100 can continue but have to START OVER P1 year, and last group of about 31 students are ALTERNATE group (not sure about them, but it seems they still have status w/ school; they have to finish their pre-requisites or something to get back in the school since it seems now even more so that they were OBVIOUSLY ACCEPTED TO TAKE THERE $$$$ as a way to start other programs, like the dental program, etc..........I mean WHY ELSE WOULD THEY TAKE STUDENTS NOT QUALIFIED....RIGHT???) Oh yeah, everyone only has to pay for three years if they make the cut b/c it will be drastically more academically challenging next years to come.....additional years after the 3rd year will be at no cost......now this must make people feel a whole lot better right??? NOT 😡

It is hard to believe that they took in unqualified ppl and now are making them go thru this mess and letting them know that "it is a golden opportunity" and that basically, they can't get in anywhere else b/c it is a lot of hassle (sp?) to apply over again and they probably KNOW that many in the school (BUT NOT ALL) are not qualified or prepared as of yet, or if ever, to even begin a Doctor of Pharmacy program.........

Lastly, ALL students have until Friday by 4pm to decide if they want to stay with the school or not. Now is this a fair enough amount of time to make a decision???? 👎

WOW 😱 That sounds like something you would see in a Casino. The odds look HORRIBLE! So basically you guys have until Friday to come up with 3 years worth of tuition? How much is that? Whats the REFUND policy like? Lava what are you going to do?

 

[nikkai]

Why on earth would anyone who doesn't make the cut want to stay and repeat P1?

Might as well apply to another school and start over there! =P

 

[jdpharmd?]

3. ACPE would also be contradicting their own standards to condone Hasan as a Dean (this was pointed out also on an earlier post). The new standards are very specific about the Dean having a pharmacy background...now there may be some room for interpretation, but I don't see any even remote connections between Hasan and pharmacy (unless you count perhaps having a prescription filled).

Didn't ACPE recently reject a school's pre-candidate status because the current (pharmacy degree having) dean had not been in his position for a period of two YEARS prior to submitting the application? Yes, I think they did. Good luck on this one, HICP.

 

[ZhengYing]

To close, in words you all might understand:

School HICP one bad, ship sinking not, already shrunk has it. Dean with no experience pharmacy idea stupid and desperate.
😱

U should be a comedian; you're so funny.

 

[JTD1972]

U should be a comedian; you're so funny.

ZhengYing, do you attend HICP? You stated earlier in this thread that you do attend HICP but I saw in a post that you posted yesterday where you stated this:

I want to apply to a pharmacy school, but my overall GPA is 2.5 or 2.6.

I'm glad to see you are applying elsewhere if you do attend HICP.

 

[hawaii90210]

Dear Students,



As of Thursday, July 7, 2005, Dr. Hasan and Dr. Antimisiaris will no longer be excepting appointments for student meetings. They realize that all of you have concerns and/or questions but when they keep meeting with students, it is taking great portions out of their day. They have much to do regarding getting the school accredited and time is something that they need more of. Therefore, please redirect all of your questions/inquires and concerns to Dr. Vu located next to the front desk. Thank you and have a wonderful day!



Tammara L. M. Kato

Senior Administrative Assistant to Interim Dean

Hawaii College of Pharmacy™

949 Kamokila Blvd., Suite 375

Kapolei, Hawaii 96707

808.674.8110 Office

808.674.9914 Fax

www.hicp.org
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How can Dr. Vu help to answer our concerns/questions when she didnt even attend the meetings herself? are those 2 trying to ignore the students? what is going on? 😱

 

[BMBiology]

How many of your classmates do you think are coming back?

Do you guys really want to go through this again for another year? Trust me when I say this, HICP will not be accreditated. Don't waste another dime, another second on this island.

 

[BMBiology]

ucrsandstorm- if you still want to make a difference, you should file an official complaint to the ACPE. Since you were the student president, you probably know things that other students do not know.

 

[RxHolmes]

i’m an hicp student and i heard students have called acpe to see if the plan dr. hasan and dr. a told us was approved by them. from what i heard acpe did not give them that plan because they have no status with acpe. call acpe to hear the truth. believe or leave…the truth is out there.

if dr. wadelin is not there ask for dr. vlasses because dr. hasan did mention he was at the acpe meeting.

Phone: (312) 664-3575
http://www.acpe-accredit.org/about/staff.asp

Peter H. Vlasses, PharmD, BCPS
Executive Director
[email protected]

Jeffrey W. Wadelin, PhD
Associate Executive Director, and
Director, Professional Degree Program Accreditation
[email protected]

 

[hawaii90210]

How many of your classmates do you think are coming back?

Do you guys really want to go through this again for another year? Trust me when I say this, HICP will not be accreditated. Don't waste another dime, another second on this island.

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i think that at least 100 students will stay next year. I know that most of the students on the top 100 list will stay for next year. not sure about the second list.... so.. that will be 100students x 28000=2800000 minimal amount of money will go into their pockets.SORRIE FOR THE TYPO, OVER REACT W THE 0 heheheeh but for sure that they WONT get any pennies from me anymore..... I'm outta there!!!!!!!!!!
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I agreed with you on the fact that HICP wont get accred. so please all of my classmates, think twice b4 pouring your money into their bottomless pockets next year. do some more research on the "so-called plan" that they talked about yesterday....

 

[johnniewest]

You should correct your math. 100*28000= $2,800,000. That's still a handsome profit since their website is at a free yahoo group website (I run my free fantasy football league there).

If any of you attend HICP, please email me. I have a friend who was contemplating about that school about a year ago, and I don't know if she went. She is a very gullible girl, and I don't know if I should be in the panick mode for her.

Please, if you currently attend HICP, email me. I have a question for you.

My email address is [email protected]

Thank you,
John

 

[hawaii90210]

You should correct your math. 100*28000= $2,800,000. That's still a handsome profit since their website is at a free yahoo group website (I run my free fantasy football league there).

If any of you attend HICP, please email me. I have a friend that was contemplating about that school about a year ago, and I don't know if she went. She is a very gullible girl, and I don't know if I should be in the panick mode for her.

Please, if you currently attend HICP, email me. I have a question for you.

My email address is [email protected]

Thank you,
John

John,
thanks for correcting it for me..... kinda tired and went overboard w the zero....
if u have any questions, you are welcome to post them up here, i'm sure HICP students will help to answer them for u...

 

[DayDreamer]

Darn School. This school will never stop lying to students. 😡

What I don't understand is why didn't more students call ACPE earlier anyway?

Even so, thanks for calling ACPE for us. I'm sure it will be beneficial to the students in the future.

 

[aubieRx]

It's so embarassing, and maybe the other students can fill you in on this monumental moment. Not sure exactly what the reason was, but everybody was taking their test and suddenly, you hear this big *crash* on the board. Everybody looks up to see what had happened. The professor was upset and I suppose either he tripped over the backpack or the backpack shouldn't haven't been there.....basically, he picked it up and threw it across the room. 😱This is the same day when students were told to bring their IDs and did not or forgot, and students were not *on time* to take the test, so that may have been added to the stress on the professor and explains why he would be upset as well.
Also, this story was just the series of event that happened on the same day Dr. Borja (aka President-Elect of Hawaii Pharmacist Associations ) was let go.

Just another exciting day at HICP.

wow this thread is intense

I got to this post and had to stop reading. It was getting too painful.

 

[DrPharm]

EVERYONE CONCERNED! Email this person! I just did! 👍 Let your voice be heard directly. I also referred this person to this site so that that can read our concerns so let's be professional!

Joanna M. Knych
Program Assistant, Professional Degree Program Accreditation
Accreditation Council for Pharmacy Education (ACPE)
20 North Clark Street, Suite 2500
Chicago, Illinois 60602-5109
(P) 312.664.3575
(F) 312.664.4652
(E) [email protected]
Website: www.acpe-accredit.org

 

[johnniewest]

Don't call it a school. Call it what it is. It is a business, and don't give me that "for-profit organization" crap!

It seems as though some of you bought a service. Unless you can prove that you were deceived into paying for a misrepresented service/product, your lawsuit may have no merit.

I live in California, and I don't know much about the law. However, I always complain to the bbb.org (ASAP), the California Consumer Affair (ASAP), and the people at my city's civil office whenever my non-English speaking parents get in a mess with a contractor. Things turned out suprisingly well last time.

However, since this is Hawaii, I don't know where you can go for help. I would try to find a way to get free legal advice before it is too late. Do it like tomorrow or on Sat. I feel sorry for you guys at HICP. I hope things turn out well for you. Don't feel bad about yourself. It is not your fault.

Dana, if you read this and you know who I am. I wish the best of luck to you. I hope you did not get into this mess. I know that I treated you poorly in the past, but believe me, I have always hope the best for you.

John

Darn School. This school will never stop lying to students. 😡

What I don't understand is why didn't more students call ACPE earlier anyway?

Even so, thanks for calling ACPE for us. I'm sure it will be beneficial to the students in the future.

 

[CityofAngels]

Ludicrous!!! 😡
This school is a joke; a complete disgrace for health profession schools!!
I feel a great sympathy for student at hicp. Not to mention all the stress
put upon these poor students with all these nonsence that no one deserves.
How can the student at hicp study for their finals with all these burden on their back? Student are forced to compete with one another at the very last minutes for the spots that have nothing but empty promises. I can't imagine the emotions going through the minds of these students 😱 My prayers are with the students at hicp...............

 

[GetLost_Hawaii]

HICP student who wants to stay here next year must copy student ID and give the signature on it.... 😡 😡 😡

 

[johnniewest]

If anyone has access to hoovers.com, can you tell me what you came up with while looking up the name: Pacific Educational Services?

Hawaii, ACPE and the HICP students are being scammed. Check out the business registrations with Hawaii and Nevada and you'll see that there is no board of trustees or regents as you'd expect to find with real college. You can find these on-line if you look a little. Hawaii is at http://www.ehawaii.gov/dcca/bizsearch/exe/bizsearch.cgi?&file_no=31233&file_suffix=F1&type=TNMR&master_name=HAWAII%20COLLEGE%20OF%20PHARMACY&status=A&from=PAGE2&action=SHOWDETAILS&certificate_no=4015000 HICP is set up as a for profit company operated by Monroe and his friends including a former Hawaii legislator named Buen. It's set up soley to make money for the owners, not support students. They're using HICP students to turn a buck. They run a parent company registered in Nevada and not in Hawaii called Pacific Educational Services. Look them up and you will see Mr. Monroe and Buen. There is no independent oversight, so no one looking out for the students interests. They are also telling Hawaii politicians they plan to open a dental school next year, based on the success of the Pharmacy College?!? HICP students should get a hardnosed lawyer like Eric Seitz to sue to get your money back plus all expenses plus lost wages plus damages!!! And HICP students should go to the media and Governor already to alert the public about what's been happening to you. Pacific Business News would probably love to unravel this scam and expose the truth. As an educator, it's horrible to see trusting students mislead and hijacked this way!

 

[johnniewest]

If they are not asking for a deposit or tuition payment upfront, I don't think they can do anything if you don't show up next year (you do get a summer break, right?). That doesn't seem like a binding contract to me. However, I have to admit that I am a little suprised that the school didn't ask for some DNA with that signature. 😀

HICP student who wants to stay here next year must copy student ID and give the signature on it.... 😡 😡 😡

 

[DayDreamer]

This sounds like HICP...... what do you guys think????

PONZI SCHEME: Named after Charles Ponzi, who ran such a scheme in 1919-1920. A Ponzi scheme is an investment scheme in which returns are paid to earlier investors, entirely out of money paid into the scheme by newer investors. Ponzi schemes are similar to pyramid schemes, but differ in that Ponzi schemes are operated by a central company or person, who may or may not be making other false claims about how the money is being invested, and where the returns are coming from. Ponzi schemes don't necessarily involve a hierarchal structure, as in a pyramid scheme; there is merely one person or company that is collecting money from new participants and using this money to pay off promised returns to earlier participants. An interesting site about Charles Ponzi and his scheme can be found here.

 

[johnniewest]

No, HICP is more of a scam. It doesn't seem like a ponzi scheme because no one is getting any investment return.

This sounds like HICP...... what do you guys think????

PONZI SCHEME: Named after Charles Ponzi, who ran such a scheme in 1919-1920. A Ponzi scheme is an investment scheme in which returns are paid to earlier investors, entirely out of money paid into the scheme by newer investors. Ponzi schemes are similar to pyramid schemes, but differ in that Ponzi schemes are operated by a central company or person, who may or may not be making other false claims about how the money is being invested, and where the returns are coming from. Ponzi schemes don't necessarily involve a hierarchal structure, as in a pyramid scheme; there is merely one person or company that is collecting money from new participants and using this money to pay off promised returns to earlier participants. An interesting site about Charles Ponzi and his scheme can be found here.

 

[johnniewest]

hoovers.com gives more information. On a different note, who is ANDREW NIXON? He is listed as the director.

go to: https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx?CorpID=478003

 

[johnniewest]

You are on to something. I am an engineer, and so this is outside my expertise. However, if I remember correctly, people want to incorporate their business (more than one owner--hence you see shares being issued on that site) so that their personal assets are protected. In other words, you can only sue them for the corporation's asset, which is mainly what the 240 students paid for in tuition since they own no property.

However, since they did spend some of the tuition money, and I am speculating that they will funnel all of that money to the new dental school (which will be listed under another corporation), it may be hard for you to sue for your money back. The corporation can just file for bankruptcy.

Also see

https://esos.state.nv.us/SOSServices/AnonymousAccess/CorpSearch/CorpDetails.aspx?CorpID=513338

Is this part of a shell game? If this company dissolved? Where did the assets go and where did they come from?

 

[kellia]

Hawaii, ACPE and the HICP students are being scammed. HICP students should get a hardnosed lawyer like Eric Seitz to sue to get your money back !!! And HICP students should go to the media to alert the public about what's been happening to you.

This is great advice!! Getting the media involved in this issue could at the very least educate the public about this bad, bad situation. Also, I believe that Caverject suggested that someone record the threats that are being made by the faculty toward the students. It sounds like it is time for HICP students to take action.

 

[BMBiology]

I hate to repeat myself but you guys need to collect everyone's contact information, document everything and talk to a lawyer. That is the best advice I can give you guys.

 

[ucrsandstorm]

ucrsandstorm- if you still want to make a difference, you should file an official complaint to the ACPE. Since you were the student president, you probably know things that other students do not know.

I am all about making differences and doing the right thing. I'll also try to share what I know to help out.

 

[bananaface]

I agree that you all should contact a lawyer as soon as possible.

 

[jdpharmd?]

Dear Students,

As of Thursday, July 7, 2005, Dr. Hasan and Dr. Antimisiaris will no longer be excepting appointments for student meetings. They realize that all of you have concerns and/or questions but when they keep meeting with students, it is taking great portions out of their day. They have much to do regarding getting the school accredited and time is something that they need more of. Therefore, please redirect all of your questions/inquires and concerns to Dr. Vu located next to the front desk. Thank you and have a wonderful day!


Tammara L. M. Kato
Senior Administrative Assistant to Interim Dean
Hawaii College of Pharmacy™
949 Kamokila Blvd., Suite 375
Kapolei, Hawaii 96707
808.674.8110 Office
808.674.9914 Fax
www.hicp.org
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How can Dr. Vu help to answer our concerns/questions when she didnt even attend the meetings herself? are those 2 trying to ignore the students? what is going on? 😱

I like the "excepting" typo and lack of punctuation (commas). The misuse of the "/" is also a nice touch, especially in an email sent out to 240+ students and faculty.

I would have to say "document document document" at this point. Call the BBB, call ACPE, call the CPS, call the FTC. PRINT your emails, since the email server at HICP might just "crash" and erase a bunch of evidence. Send Hasan registered mail for your questions, with return reciepts. Record phonecalls (if it's legal). Record lectures, etc...

Pretend like they stole 30 grand right out of your pocket and have no intention of giving it back. Show the other scum that this "fake pharmacy school" stuff isn't tolerated by professionals. 👍

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Those folks at HICP are lucky I'm not a student there, I'd waltz into the Dean's office and introduce his cranium to the concept of redneck justice (commonly known as "a tire iron.") Then I'd steal his computer and whatever else he has laying around his office as compensation, sell it to a pawn shop in HI, then fly back to WV and go to dentistry school or something.

 

[bananaface]

Speaking of dental school, I personally feel that it is really important that HICP students take action quickly, since "HICD" is scheduled to take in dental students next year. Acting now could help prevent a whole new group of students from experiencing what you did. Let's be realistic: a group of administrators does not just grow common sense, competency, and good moral character overnight. The incoming students for HICD are screwed unless someone makes it known what has happened at HICP either via lawsuit or the media.

 

[kwakster928]

the current practice of HICP's administration is absolutely ludicrous. it disgusts me how can a group of persons take advantage of young individuals with a dream of being a pharmacist no matter what the route they take.

I still wonder why they have to put stupid (TM) right next to everything. even in e-mail correspondence. the TM is that important? i say use that energy for something else. unbelievable.

 

[HI DDS]

I am a dentist in Hawaii and have been reading your thread with astonishment, disgust, and empathy. This is not a joke. Kristen Consillio of the Pacific Business News has published a story today about the proposed dental school.

I have been trying to get her to investigate the commotion you have experienced and she wants to do the story, but she is not likely to get involved unless she hears directly from HICP students. This is your chance to get the word out to the media but like I said, she NEEDS to hear from you.

Contact her at [email protected]

Good luck and don't waste time.

 

[Caverject]

Those folks at HICP are lucky I'm not a student there, I'd waltz into the Dean's office and introduce his cranium to the concept of redneck justice (commonly known as "a tire iron.") Then I'd steal his computer and whatever else he has laying around his office as compensation, sell it to a pawn shop in HI, then fly back to WV and go to dentistry school or something.

Isin't being a dentist in West Virginia sort of an oxymoron?

Just kidding by the way

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Isin't being a dentist in West Virginia sort of an oxymoron?

Just kidding by the way

Yeah, but just think how easy your job would be. Hours and hours of free time to do nothing but be a bum.

 

[Reporter]

Hello:

I'm a reporter at Pacific Business News writing an article on the Hawaii College of Pharmacy. I wrote a story about a new dental school being planned by the same owners of the pharmacy college in this week's PBN (www.pacific.bizjournals.com). I'd appreciate any information you can provide on or off the record. I'm trying to get as many perspectives into the story to get a fair and accurate picture of the college. I'm on a tight deadline and would appreciate anyone contacting me at [email protected]! Thank you!