**PLEASE RATE YOUR PHARMACIST JOB SECURITY (1-10)**

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Guys and Gals,

Rate your job security feeling on a scale from 1-10, obviously 10 best and 1 worst. I want to tally up a whole bunch from all over and see how people are feeling out there.....Just leave a number if you can for ease of computation/reading.

Mine is a :

4

I'll get back to you guys with an average after we collect a good amount of data!! thanks again.

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10, I'm allowed to remove someone and take over if I layoff from my current job or the job that I retreat to, and I am allowed to change agencies and bump somewhere there. Basically, I have to be laid off consecutively three times before I'm in danger at minimum (I still have further retreat rights after that too). If I truly do get laid off, it's $165k annually for three years, then pension at 22% of $165k and get the additional Social Security Supplement until 62 without consideration for any other employment I end up taking later on. Frankly, I hope they pull a RIF here in federal service as I'd love to take the early out.
 
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3, if I complain about anything they'd prob replace me with a new grad @ a lower wage
 
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No idea. There are dozens of people above my boss who I’ve never met. Any of them could end my employment, and without knowing them I have no way to assess the likelihood of that occurring.
 
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Some days I feel really secure job wise....then I come read threads here and start feeling really insecure. I don't know, so I will say a 5. Layoffs/cutbacks are always a risk, and it does seem like moving up the seniority ladder is a negative in pharmacy.
 
solid 5. could get laid off tomorrow but pick up a new job in a month or less
 
10. Unless I sell my company, or fire myself. When I was a pharmacist, as soon as management changed, it dropped from a 9, to a 5. Didn't like leaving my future up to some stranger, so after I got a "suggested vote of non-confidence" I decided to walk away.

Guys and Gals,

Rate your job security feeling on a scale from 1-10, obviously 10 best and 1 worst. I want to tally up a whole bunch from all over and see how people are feeling out there.....Just leave a number if you can for ease of computation/reading.

Mine is a :

4

I'll get back to you guys with an average after we collect a good amount of data!! thanks again.
 
Guys and Gals,
Rate your job security feeling on a scale from 1-10, obviously 10 best and 1 worst. I want to tally up a whole bunch from all over and see how people are feeling out there.....Just leave a number if you can for ease of computation/reading.

Mine is a :

4

I'll get back to you guys with an average after we collect a good amount of data!! thanks again.

10.
 
Unless you are the owner or in management position, I don`t think it can get any higher than 5 now a day. Too bad we are not very good with either sucking up nor blackmailing.
 
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6 or 7.... lately it feels more of a 7.

Still worried about if major changes happen, i could be let go...
But I think my standing would be like a 6th-9th choice down the list to let go first
 
I have good connection with 3 District Leaders including my current one so finding a job within CVS shouldn’t be a problem. My store is doing pretty good with metrics and customer service since I’ve started as a staff pharmacist so I would say 9 for now
 
Feels like a 5 right now.
I was at a 7 earlier this year.

Either score is remarkably low for academia- most folks will be at 8 or higher (with the tenured professors scoring it at 11- they are virtually untouchable).
 
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Somewhere between a 3 and a 7 and I’m not really sure as I know there are higher levels above me that could terminate our entire pharmacy enterprise if they wanted. So I really don’t know.
 
9. The only 2 things standing between this and a 10 are Congress and Trump.
 
9. Hospital pharmacy. Hearing everything from my friends and other pharmacists, if I was in retail it would probably be a 3.
 
As a chain retail pharmacist I would say 6, slightly better than the average job in this economy. Most other career fields have very little job security and I think a lot of pharmacists forget this.
 
9. The only 2 things standing between this and a 10 are Congress and Trump.

Reductions in Force: Running Registers, Retreat, and Bumping and Retreating | Federal Handbooks.com

You're a 10, you have bump rights as a GS-13. (That means if you do get laid off, you push out the lowest GS-12 and occupy that position as a GS-13). You'd have to laid-off twice AND refuse an lateral agency transfer afterwards since you're within NCR commuting as well as permanent, so even if Congress and Trump lose the VA, you're not lost yourself as you would go into DoD or HHS NCR. You're even protected by federal worker standards as you'd have lateral.

That, unless you want to take the RIF payout if it ever occurs.
 
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Active duty military in a terminal paygrade with an active duty service obligation. Still wouldn’t call my job security a 10 in this professional environment.

Maybe a 9.75?
 
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For me it is a 1 especially after they demoted me to floater for no valid reason . Even as a staff now, it is is a 1... never know when they will find a reason to let you go...
 
I was a pharmacy manager. Once DM changed, and I had disagreements with the new guy, they did this to me. 2 weeks later, I had a vacation for 2 weeks, never went back, had a new job in hand (from connections) before my vacation was over.

It's a slippery slope once they flex on you like that, and looking over your shoulder isn't a strategy...

For me it is a 1 especially after they demoted me to floater for no valid reason . Even as a staff now, it is is a 1... never know when they will find a reason to let you go...
 
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Probably 11 or 12
 
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10. High volume 1000 a day and I work the cheapest and the 2nd shift which nobody wants.
 
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8. My job requires me to have roughly 24 state licenses and I doubt my boss wants to train new people. I have a unicorn job though.
 
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8. My job requires me to have roughly 24 state licenses and I doubt my boss wants to train new people. I have a unicorn job though.

Jeez...I hope they reimburse for those license fees.
 
I would say 5 just because I take PIC positions no one wants and am currently in the middle of another blowout year for script goals and profit. The only problem is adherence because the patient population takes their medications randomly

All staff pharmacists in comparison would be 2 or below.
 
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I would say 5 just because I take PIC positions no one wants and am currently in the middle of another blowout year for script goals and profit. The only problem is adherence because the patient population takes their medications randomly

All staff pharmacists in comparison would be 2 or below.
Agree
 
Reductions in Force: Running Registers, Retreat, and Bumping and Retreating | Federal Handbooks.com

You're a 10, you have bump rights as a GS-13. (That means if you do get laid off, you push out the lowest GS-12 and occupy that position as a GS-13). You'd have to laid-off twice AND refuse an lateral agency transfer afterwards since you're within NCR commuting as well as permanent, so even if Congress and Trump lose the VA, you're not lost yourself as you would go into DoD or HHS NCR. You're even protected by federal worker standards as you'd have lateral.

That, unless you want to take the RIF payout if it ever occurs.

What do you think about this sentence: "Employees holding excepted service positions have no assignment rights unless their agency, at its discretion, chooses to offer these rights."

Would I not fall under this?
 
Guys and Gals,

Rate your job security feeling on a scale from 1-10, obviously 10 best and 1 worst. I want to tally up a whole bunch from all over and see how people are feeling out there.....Just leave a number if you can for ease of computation/reading.

Mine is a :

4

I'll get back to you guys with an average after we collect a good amount of data!! thanks again.
2. Retail, overnights
 
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What do you think about this sentence: "Employees holding excepted service positions have no assignment rights unless their agency, at its discretion, chooses to offer these rights."

Would I not fall under this?

But you're not excepted service for the purposes of tenure, that's the Hybrid part. Since you only get the Title 5 benefits, you get the Title 5 protections. The Hybrid part is that the PSB can override the Title 5 hiring procedure and actually choose the best person for the job without seniority considerations and when it has to do with professional leave for CE and such. The only matter is that the PSB can remove you from the Title 38 part of your job if you're deemed incompetent.

Let me give you two examples:
A pharmacist at Pittsburgh was not only stealing meds, this person was high every so often on them. The PSB actually tried to fire him, turns out that the PSB lacks the statutory authority for termination, it can only grant or revoke professional privileges. They obviously did, but the Title 5 part was trickier. So, they tried to fire the pharmacist under theft grounds, except that OPM ruled years ago that theft to cover a medical problem was illegal grounds for termination (so stealing to maintain the high would not qualify for termination, just a suspension, but stealing to sell would not be ok, that could be an outright termination). The pharmacist was stripped of their GS-12 pharmacist, but now the hospital had a GS-12 person that they had to find a job for, AND thoroughly pissed off because of the attempted termination. This person wouldn't settle, so, the pharmacist is still the most overpaid MAS clerk in the country right now.

Management moral of the story: Knowing that you can't fire for illness, you need to figure out a hostile enough work environment or sweeten the carrot in order to get a "voluntary" resignation. Recommend saying that we won't report it to the Board if they quietly resign. (If you're wondering why the VA never reports NPDB data unless coerced, that's why. Anyone who is reported, should be suspected that there is management retaliation involved, and the Special Counsel supports this after analysis). Tricking a problem employee into signing a resignation agreement is your #1 job.

Second example:
VA Worker Gets Job Back Despite Armed Robbery Charge

Management moral of the story: If your workplace is so *((#$ that you can only hire thieves and felons, you deserve what you get...

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So, the only difference between us and our uniformed colleagues is that our uniformed colleagues have some sense of a honorable backbone, and have their own justice system in UCMJ. They certainly will go after egregious abuses of authority, but if you look up how NCIS came to being, you can subvert the provost marshal if you are interested enough...

For us civilians, OPM protects the worst and destroys the best. If you are a well-intentioned whistleblower, OPM and IG will actually assist your accused in covering it up and retaliating against you. If you're completely the worst scum possible, don't worry, you'll still have a job in the end. No worse than business as usual here.

https://www.stripes.com/polopoly_fs...enu/standard/file/Friendly Fire VA report.pdf
 
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8 or 9. I could be overly optimistic but I work in BFE. I also feel like I could get another job easily if I were to be laid off (again, this could be overly optimistic on my part).
 
I work 2 jobs. I would say around 7-8 on both. I don’t get benefits with either job and my only real cost to my employers is my hourly wage. So there’s not really any reason to let me go. My hours are set and stable with my hospital job. My retail job could always quit scheduling me if corporate cuts pharmacist hours.
 
Just like our great President Trump, I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose my job.
 
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Just like our great President Trump, I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose my job.

This might be my favorite post of yours ever. I can't even tell how much of the irony is intentional which just makes it that much better.
 
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Probably pretty high 8 or 9.... I'd be demoted to a staff pharmacist from specialist before laid off.

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are you a PCSM? (clinical manager of sorts)? for retail....organizing flu shots...etc.
 
Given that I'm a night shift at a mid-level...I dunno....5?

I'd probaly get snapped back up pretty fast though being that last time I was a floater, like half a dozen people asked if I could become permanent at their store when their partner left for whatever reason.

So...7?
 
My current job? 7. A pharmacy job or a healthcare job with a comparable salary? 9
 
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