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"But I still don't understand why you think you will find success in DO school when you failed to do so in Podiatry school."

Think what you want to think. It doesn't bother me. All I know is that while in pod school, something didn't sit right for me. I realized that I wanted to be a whole body physician, not just a specialist of the foot and ankle. After doing much research and reading about osteopathic medicine, I knew being a DO would fulfill what I was looking for. In the end, I will be a whole body physician, DO/MD, it doesn't matter.

P.S. I like how you tried to turn the concept of failure around on me. I guess I should give you more credit! I didn't fail anything. All I am guilty of is pursuing my goals of becoming a whole body physician and podiatry helped me realize that.


"Do you think it will be easier?"

I think easy is a relative term and IMO, school has been rather "easy" for me. Do I think it's going to be easier in med school? No. Do I think my training in podiatry will help? Definitely!

"You must make the Podiatry students here very uneasy. You personify their insecurities by your constant reminder that you left Podiatry school for something better."

Thank you for pointing out your insecurities on this one! I have many friends still at pod school and still keep in touch with them. Actually, I also have friends at the other programs at the school. Oh, and I forgot to mention I am friends with people in the administration. Hhmmmm....you're getting deeper and deeper in your hole.

"You couldn't finish what you started, then you circle overhead and further destroy their moral. Whats next for you....Massage Therapy?"

Bla Bla Bla...Again, you try to place the failure on me, but I think you shifted that to you. That was such a cop out lame excuse Spodok. Sorry but it is. Like I said before, podiatry helped me realize what MY goal in life was. I am glad I had the experience and opportunitity to learn what I have learned. I don't destroy anyone...people destroy themselves with insecurities, self-doubt, and self-hate. It seems you have plenty of that.

Actually, my primary care physician is a DO and when I went to see him for my physical and told him that I am going to med school, he said that taking massage therapy would be a DEFINITE help to learn OMM and in PDx. Massage therapy is a very beneficial treatment modality. So perhaps I will learn MT since it was recommended by a physician to help me in OMM and heighten the awareness of touch in PDx. Do you see a pattern? I do. It's called being resourceful and building on one's experiences.


"This is not the Medical School Forum, it is the Health Professional Forum, we are Podiatrists, Physical Therapists, Acupunturists, Nursing Assistants....come back when you get into Massage Therapy, maybe you can finish that in a couple years."

You said it...Health Professional Forum...as a future physician, I too am a health professional and just a part of the health care team. We're all inter-related and need to get along. Just b/c I'm going to med school doesn't mean I can't be in the Pod forum. I do have an interest in podiatry and would like to see the profession keep growing.


A message to others reading this:

We are or will be part of the health care team responsible for the well-being of our patients. Instead of bashing each other and the professions, we should get along and work together. As health care professionals, we each are going to bring something unique to the patient and it is that which makes us special. Take care and good luck!
 
box29 said:
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P.S. I like how you tried to turn the concept of failure around on me. I guess I should give you more credit! I didn't fail anything. All I am guilty of is pursuing my goals of becoming a whole body physician and podiatry helped me realize that

"The National Board of Podiatric Medical Examiners and its testing agent, The Chauncey Group International, refused last summer to validate the scores of hundreds of students from four of the nation's seven podiatry colleges because of worries about cheating."
Hmmmm.... which school were you in? Let me guess... Things are starting to make sense now.
 
"Hmmmm.... which school were you in? Let me guess... Things are starting to make sense now."

Hmmmm, nope. none of those! I went to the same school as you bud. If you read my other posts closely, you should be able to infer what school I attended. There's only 8 schools now, how hard can it be to determine which school it is! The 8th and newest school is at Midwestern Univeristy Arizona.
 
"The National Board of Podiatric Medical Examiners and its testing agent, The Chauncey Group International, refused last summer to validate the scores of hundreds of students from four of the nation's seven podiatry colleges because of worries about cheating."

Another short coming there too! If I was accused of cheating on a NATIONAL board exam, how would I get into medical school? Don't you think the med schools would see this? There are questions on the primary and secondary applications that address these issues. This could have also been on my transcript which needs to be forwarded to the med schools. By the way, I haven't taken any boards either.
 
I am finished responding to you Spodok as I think you don't contribute anything resourceful to this thread. I won't tolerate such behavior and so, I wash my hands clean of you.
 
box29 said:
I am finished responding to you Spodok as I think you don't contribute anything resourceful to this thread. I won't tolerate such behavior and so, I wash my hands clean of you.


I wonder what the other Pod schools did to escape the cheating scandal? I bet some of those people will be looking over their shoulders forever. How awful would that be?
 
again spodok, I'm curious. Why are you so frustrated with podiatry? What school do you attend? and what is your chosen profession?
 
Good luck to you. If you have found something that you really feel comfortable with and that makes you want to go to work or school in the morning, then that should be applauded. That goes for everyone out there. You should be commended for making the decisions you have. Osteopathic medicine is an awesome profession. Podiatry is also a very worthy profession, but so are all medical fields. Not everyone is geared to be a podiatrist, or an er doc or a dentist, general surgeon, etc, etc. I always knew I wanted to be involved in medicine, and when the time came to figure out what field, podiatry fit, and still fits for me today. My PCP or primary care providor is a PA. she didn't officially go to a 4 year medical school, but she has the training and the licence to manage my basic general health needs, write Rx, and if I need a specialist she refers me. A few years ago, I didn't even know what a Physician Assistant did or could do. I didn't know what a DO was or what you could do. My eyes have been opened and I think many people's eyes are yet to be opened to podiatry as well as these other fields. Thanks for your positive contributions to this forum and podiatry 👍 .
 
To Spodoc,

I posted something similar to this an another thread where you attacked me.

Des Moines University is an accredited medical school. I'm sorry if you're so disgruntled with podiatric medicine you have use up so much of your time posting negative comments, when you could be reading to better yourself and help treat your patients.

Perhaps you should change professions.

Also, I'm sorry that the article in the North Missourian, which was written by the editor of my home town newspaper, offended you. He was merely announcing my graduation and he may not be an expert in the proper names of all the U.S. medical schools.

Good day,
 
dpmdoc said:
My PCP or primary care providor is a PA. she didn't officially go to a 4 year medical school, but she has the training and the licence to manage my basic general health needs, write Rx, and if I need a specialist she refers me. .


A PCP cannot be a PA. A "PA" is a "Physicans Assistant" you *****. You also cannot even spell the word "license" which brings me to wonder how you will ever get one.
 
diabeticfootdr said:
To Spodoc,

I posted something similar to this an another thread where you attacked me.

Des Moines University is an accredited medical school. I'm sorry if you're so disgruntled with podiatric medicine you have use up so much of your time posting negative comments, when you could be reading to better yourself and help treat your patients.

Perhaps you should change professions.

Also, I'm sorry that the article in the North Missourian, which was written by the editor of my home town newspaper, offended you. He was merely announcing my graduation and he may not be an expert in the proper names of all the U.S. medical schools.

Good day,

1. "Lee C. Rogers, a 1996 alumnus of GHS, will graduate from Des Moines University Medical School on May 29, 2004"... That is a direct quote from the newspaper......Someone somewhere is not telling the truth.

Des Moines University College of Podiatric Medicine and Surgery does exist. Don't you know the name of your school?

2.You claim to be "Lee Rogers DPM". But according to your own hometown newspaper, you have not graduated.

What is wrong with honesty Mr. Rogers? Keep it real sparky.
 
spodok,

You have your ability to receive PMs turned off, so I have to address you in this thread.

Please turn on your ability to send/receive PMs and contact me in regards to taking yourself off of post-hold. Thanks!

- Tae
 
To spodok,

I am finished with clinical rotations, awaiting graduation, and I have some time to kill. So I thought I would log on to SDN to help counsel some young health professions students. If you look at my register date to the left it reads May 2004. I created my profile as a PGY-1 so I would not have to change it in a week.

Podiatric medicine isn't for everyone. Obviously it isn't for you.

It also speaks to one's character that I sign all of my posts with my real name. Anyone can look me up. You, on the other hand, throw anonymous negativities. Why don't you sign your posts?

Sincerely,

Lee C. Rogers, DPM (on Saturday)
 
spodok said:
If you want a real financial picture, look at the STUDENT LOAN DEFAULT RATE FOR PODIATRISTS.

You make blanket statements with no proof. According to the US Department of Education the current student loan default rate for:

Dr. William M Scholl College at Finch is 0% in 1999, 0% in 2000, and 0.9% (1 of 97 students) in 2001.
http://wdcrobcolp01.ed.gov/CFAPPS/COHORT/cohortdata_detail.cfm?Record_ID=2022&record=1&TOTAL_REC=1

Des Moines University is 0.1% (1 of 518 students) in 1999, 0.2% (1 of 371 students) in 2000, and 0.2% (1 of 348 students) in 2001
http://wdcrobcolp01.ed.gov/CFAPPS/COHORT/cohortdata_detail.cfm?Record_ID=2271&record=1&TOTAL_REC=1

Temple University (the whole university) is 4.1% (279 of 6644 students) in 1999, 4.5% (286 of 6351 students) in 2000, and 4.3% (249 of 5660) students in 2001
http://wdcrobcolp01.ed.gov/CFAPPS/COHORT/cohortdata_detail.cfm?Record_ID=4784&record=1&TOTAL_REC=1

The NATIONAL DEFAULT rate for all universities and colleges of any type is:
5.6% in 1999, 5.9% in 2000, and 5.4% in 2001
http://www.ed.gov/offices/OSFAP/defaultmanagement/defaultrates.html

Therefore, the student loan default rates are MUCH lower for DPM graduates than the national average. There is no epidemic of loan default. Quit spreading misinformation.

Lee C. Rogers (DPM on Saturday)
 
Dear Diabeticfootdr,

Thank you for spending the time to come to this forum and clarify a lot of things up for the perspective students, like me. I think podiatry can be a great profession if the DPMs, pod students can integrate as one and fight for the rights and respects we earn. I am definetely applying for pod school this year, and spodok, for you information, not everyone that applies to pod school have bad GPAs--I happen to have a GPA of 3.8 with biochemistry and molecular biology major.
For perspective pod students, I was totally discouraged by this pod forum when I heard so much negativity in this field. But do your research, ask pod students, DPM, shadow DPMs. I did my hw, and shadowed several docs at NYCPM, and loved what the docs were able to offer...The reality is "podiatry is a profession to make a living and provide care, but if you are in it to be a millionaire, you are in the wrong profession!!"
Keep up with the good work in podiatry!! Dr. Lee, please do come visit this forum once awhile..WE NEED POSITIVE ATTITUDE HERE SOMETIMES AND YOUR PROFESSIONAL ADVICE AS WELL 👍 👍
 
mbess481 said:
What you are saying is a perfect echo of what my friends and I have been saying about one of our other friends. She has always been desperate to be called doctor. She didn't get into MD or DO schools, and didn't want to wait to shore up her application to try again. Went right to DPM school after college. She's going into her second year this fall and I am worried for her sanity!



CONGRATULATIONS! It is wonderful that you are pursuing what you truly want to pursue. YOU DID IT!

Good luck at school!!!!!

Please only post positive things about Podiatry here. SIS!!!BOOM !!RAH!! RAH!!!
 
mbess481 said:
What you are saying is a perfect echo of what my friends and I have been saying about one of our other friends. She has always been desperate to be called doctor. She didn't get into MD or DO schools, and didn't want to wait to shore up her application to try again. Went right to DPM school after college. She's going into her second year this fall and I am worried for her sanity!

To mbess481

But have you asked her if she is happy where she is? Does she wants to be a podiatrist after all? True, a lot of people went to podiatry school because of not getting accepted to MD schools (not too sure about DO schools though). Since I know some people who would rather go to podiatry schools rather than DO schools. For some the of DPMs who I shadowed, they admit they wanted to go to MD schools in the beginning but was not accepted, however, most of them are happy where they are. If your friend is fully aware of what podiatry entails, then I don't think you have to worry much...right???
 
If you guys have watched Phillip Greenman's video on pelvic manipulation and read his book on OMT for DOs you'll probably be stunned by the graphic images of manipulating someone's buttocks to fix his back problems. It's also demeaning having to perform a cervical or breast examination if you guys are gonna practice becoming MDs someday. I dunno about you all, but I shudder at the thought of having to touch, treat and to smell at least 20 greasy buttocks and pairs of pungent feet a day... 🙄 .. but then again, if I don't do my job right, I might get sued 😱
 
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