Portland IM residencies

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Obviously OHSU is the big dog in town, but does anybody know much about the other three? Providence-Portland, Providence-St Vincent, and Legacy Emanuel.

Any opinions on which of those other three would be most worth a look/interview?

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Obviously OHSU is the big dog in town, but does anybody know much about the other three? Providence-Portland, Providence-St Vincent, and Legacy Emanuel.

Any opinions on which of those other three would be most worth a look/interview?

I have no information on the PSV program. I have privileges there and occasionally run into the residents when I round there, but don't know much else. I know a few of the teaching hospitalists and they're great.

PPMC is mixed bag. Good hospitalist attendings for the most part. Residents are the usual community program mix with a bunch of stellar prelims (because OHSU has no undesignated preliminary IM spots). Sub-specialties are mostly private except Oncology and (I think) Pulm/CCM. You'll do one inpatient month and some ICU at the VA but otherwise it's all on hospital.

I'm more familiar with Legacy because that's where my office is and the residents rotate with me. Again, residents are a mixed bag but very interested in learning. Probably moreso than OHSU residents frankly.

2 hospital system with good teaching hospitalists. PCCM is also employed but all the other sub-specialties (including mine) are private. Most residents go into primary care or hospitalist jobs but the ones that have gone to fellowship have matched.
 
That's exactly the type of info I was hoping for. Thanks! Do any of them have a particularly broad patient base/cross section? I know Emanuel is downtown but wasn't sure whether the other two are more suburban/pvt pay populations.
 
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I have noticed that a lot of people who do residency or fellowship in Portland end up staying there afterwards. It looks like one of those cities that people fall in love with and have a hard time leaving once they are there.
 
That's exactly the type of info I was hoping for. Thanks! Do any of them have a particularly broad patient base/cross section? I know Emanuel is downtown but wasn't sure whether the other two are more suburban/pvt pay populations.

The Legacy program splits time between Emanuel and Good Samaritan which are within spitting distance of each other but serve very distinct populations. Emanuel is a very urban population while Good Sam has a mix of well-heeled and rural.

St V's is straight up suburban, insured. PPMC is a mix.
 
I have noticed that a lot of people who do residency or fellowship in Portland end up staying there afterwards. It looks like one of those cities that people fall in love with and have a hard time leaving once they are there.

Yup. It's hard to leave here. I'm not planning to.
 
"In Portland, you can go to a record store and sell your CDs!" :laugh:
 
Lol anybody have an explanation for me getting interviews at Utah, Arizona, and Colorado, but getting rejected by Providence Portland?
 
Lol anybody have an explanation for me getting interviews at Utah, Arizona, and Colorado, but getting rejected by Providence Portland?

They assume you don't want a "non-academic" residency. Or you have an interest in fellowship. Most of their residents do PCP/Hospitalist work with a smattering of Endo and ID.
 
They assume you don't want a "non-academic" residency. Or you have an interest in fellowship. Most of their residents do PCP/Hospitalist work with a smattering of Endo and ID.

I mean, that had occurred to me, but my application profile is PAINFULLY average (and I don't mean studentdoc 'average') and i included my hospitalist intentions in my PS.

Obv, there might not be a great explanation, I just found it odd.

Appreciate the feedback, btw. Already scheduled with Emanuel and PSV after reading your comments!
 
Waiting on Providence Portland myself. Portland seems like an amazingly weird place
 
Gutonc's answer regarding PPMC is incorrect. First, all the community programs in Portland are academic. All Portland IM resident based community programs are tertiary hospitals. While many hospitals outside of Portland transfer complicated patients to Portland hospitals, the resident based community hospitals in Portland do not transfer patients to OHSU (except, occassionally for things like liver transplant if at PPMC). All other internal medicine related medical needs, regardless of severity, are handled at places like PPMC, PSV, Legacy. Truthfully, every person has different ideas what 'academic' means, but PPMC and PSV have research occurring at their centers (http://oregon.providence.org/patien...tland-medical-center/Pages/researchindex.aspx), teach evidence based medicine, and expect the same quality work from their residents and educators as a university program. Residents at both programs participate in quality improvement projects, clinical research, present posters at local and national meetings, etc. If you are looking to do bench research as a resident, though, it's less common at community programs.

Providence has ~1/3 residents going into primary care, 1/3 to hospitalist and 1/3 into fellowships, so your interest in subspecializing makes no difference in whether you're invited to interview.

Really, what it comes down to is that the number applicants applying to Providence continues to grow every year and only a certain number of applicants can be interviewed.

As a general statement, if a person has a specific interest in a program/location, but doesn't get an interview, it's not unreasonable to call and communicate your specific interest and ask if there's anything that can be done. While you may get a vague answer or a "nothing I can do about it" reply, occassionally, the program director (or whomever) is willing to re-review applications.
 
Gutonc's answer regarding PPMC is incorrect. First, all the community programs in Portland are academic.

You missed the "air quotes" in my post regarding "academics". But I don't actually disagree with anything you said.

That said, the basic science research at PPMC, while good (and to be clear, I know and have worked with about half of the researchers there), is very focused on immunology, primarily tumor immunology. If you want to do research outside of this arena your options will be limited. But it's way more than what is available anywhere else in Portland besides OHSU.
 
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