Presidential Debate 2020

[deleted885753]

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Right like the folks who say they aren't racist because they once had a black friend. Your right you won't change my mind. Stand back and stand by proud boys= somewhat biased.

Already addressed above. He was getting interrupted by both the host and his opponent when asked that question and it probably didn’t come out the way intended. I am just guessing and giving him the benefit of doubt. I am sure he will be asked to clarify that remark and will see what he has to say.

 

[M0df]

Trump is a reflection of our society. I am not even his supporter. This is not 1920. You don't need a president to tell you how dangerous the virus is in February or March. If he went on TV and told everyone to wear a hazmat suit every single day, would we listen? Lets take responsibility for our own choices. Isn't this what this is all about? We want the option to make our own choices. We did. I honestly can't be sure that if it was Clinton, Bush, or Obama running this country this year if the outcome would be any different. Trump is a byproduct of who we are. He created more chaos but we like good TV. He has his own agenda but 51% would criticize him anyway.

 

[M0df]

It was funny that during the debate, on the split screen, you could see that Trump was mostly looking at and addressing Biden. Biden was mostly looking at Chris Wallace, avoiding direct eye contact with Trump.

 

[deleted885753]

And the funny thing I am the white person other white people trust to share their racist views with in private. Of course folks who would never express these views in public. I support your rights more than you do yourself.

Not surprised. All of us are prejudiced. All of us have some preconceived notions about people of different race/ sex/ religion and economic background. Science of human psychology dictates that.

Problem with racist/ sexists etc is they would treat people of certain background negativity. Then it becomes a problem. Being prejudiced isn’t an issue (all of us are), but treating people negatively is.

 

[APN-59 rph]

Interesting comments. Of course there are at least two more players in this "game"...Russia and China (maybe NORK) who would be happy to see this country fall apart. Let's suppose that election results indicate that Donald has lost. Then suppose that he does what he has threatened to do...touch off an election rebellion by his followers. Then what? Which side is the military on? Do they take orders from Trump or Biden....maybe 1/2 and half? Maybe they refuse to get involved...maybe not...Now, who controls the special items? Do Russia and China become "helpful"? You all might not have to worry about jobs as G.I.'s My Mother-in-law was a little kid living in the shambles of Nazi Germany...She is mighty scared of The Donald..

 

[APN-59 rph]

It's just funny how people still think Dems and Republicans still think their politicians actually care about them.

Sorry not funny but hilarious.

Biden has been around for 47 years and hasn't done a single thing.

Trump does exactly what I want from him, he lets me keep my guns and cuts my taxes. He goes after the illegals and I could go on and on.

Thank you President Trump

I wonder if you have any experience with how little comfort a gun really affords....

 

[wagrxm2000]

I wonder if you have any experience with how little comfort a gun really affords....

I sleep like a baby every night knowing no one will be attacking my family.

Can you say the same?

 

[WVUPharm2007]

I sleep like a baby every night knowing no one will be attacking my family.

Can you say the same?

3 dudes with guns break into your house and get to you before you can react. How will your gun save you?

They will not guarantee safety. They only provide the illusion of safety.

I don't trust people that have never been in stressful situations with a firearm, anyway. Especially the high powered rifles the Call of Duty cosplay dorks have these days. I need a freaking acog sight on my AR15. Because who knows when the Chinese will invade.

I can just see one of those *****s firing wildly at some crackhead trying to steal their TV as their bullets pass through their walls into their neighbor's house, killing the dude next door while he's peacefully talking a crap.

 

[ValeRx]

3 dudes with guns break into your house and get to you before you can react. How will your gun save you?

They will not guarantee safety. They only provide the illusion of safety.

I don't trust people that have never been in stressful situations with a firearm, anyway. Especially the high powered rifles the Call of Duty cosplay dorks have these days. I need a freaking acog sight on my AR15. Because who knows when the Chinese will invade.

I can just see one of those *****s firing wildly at some crackhead trying to steal their TV as their bullets pass through their walls into their neighbor's house, killing the dude next door while he's peacefully talking a crap.

As opposed to ... what? Calling the cops? Waiting 15-20 minutes for them to show up and whatever happens between that time?

 

[wagrxm2000]

3 dudes with guns break into your house and get to you before you can react. How will your gun save you?

They will not guarantee safety. They only provide the illusion of safety.

I don't trust people that have never been in stressful situations with a firearm, anyway. Especially the high powered rifles the Call of Duty cosplay dorks have these days. I need a freaking ac15. Because who knows when the Chinese will invade.

I can just see one of those *****s firing wildly at some crackhead trying to steal their TV as their bullets pass through their walls into their neighbor's house, killing the dude next door while he's peacefully talking a crap.

So they are going to break in upstairs?

 

[WVUPharm2007]

As opposed to ... what? Calling the cops? Waiting 15-20 minutes for them to show up and whatever happens between that time?

In the situation given, you won't be able to call the police in the first place. Sometimes you are just in the wrong place at the wrong time and there's nothing you can do about it.

Sure, in a perfect situation where the Home Alone burglers make enough noise to wake you up, give you enough time to get your wits, find your firearm, take the safety off, aim, fire, and hope they aren't armed and/or can't shoot straight...congrats Rambo, you did good.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

So they are going to break in upstairs?

Do you have an alarm that goes off and wakes you up?

You know what's really effective? Owning a Rottweiler. Burglers might not know you own a gun. They'll know you have a Rottweiler.

 

[Xenophylia]

Of course there are at least two more players in this "game"...Russia and China (maybe NORK) who would be happy to see this country fall apart.

They both must be salivating pretty heavily right about now....

 

[Sparda29]

Biden needs to embrace the far-left instead of chasing after moderate Republicans who are now gonna vote Trump just because they want Roe V Wade taken down.

The impact Trump has had on the courts is ridiculous, that's why the Republican party puts up with him, he's stacking the court system with conservatives.

 

[zelman]

Best thing to do is stay home, let Trump win and pray a socialist can win the democratic nomination

GTFO with that republican propaganda.

 

[ValeRx]

In the situation given, you won't be able to call the police in the first place. Sometimes you are just in the wrong place at the wrong time and there's nothing you can do about it.

Sure, in a perfect situation where the Home Alone burglers make enough noise to wake you up, give you enough time to get your wits, find your firearm, take the safety off, aim, fire, and hope they aren't armed and/or can't shoot straight...congrats Rambo, you did good.

Personally I sleep with a Sig P320 X-Five, which has no safety, next to my bed. No need to find it.

 

[Old Timer]

It’s a frigging mess. As much as I despise Trump, can I honestly vote for Biden with good conscience? I mean just look at him.. Very good chance Harris would take over as a president midway through given the shape Biden is in.

That denouncing white supremacy was weird. I think Trump wasn’t listening to his question and just misspoke. But this wouldn’t be first time. During Charlottesville, he has said “there were good people on both side”.

Really:
I think you are clueless. Biden is a stutterer and has always spoken this way. He understands the issues better than Trump ever will. If you watched the CNN town hall you would see he understands the material.....

 

[MilknCheerios]

I didn't watch the debates but from what I've read online and my friends on facebook have said, it was pretty much a dumpster fire. Three men trying to talk above each other. I'm a moderate and technically undecided but leaning heavily towards Biden. He seems to be the lesser of two evils. I do not think that America is "winning" and the last 4 years have not been great. While I can't place the blame solely on the president for that, his decisions, or lack thereof, is enough proof that an administration change is necessary for the future wellbeing of America.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Personally I sleep with a Sig P320 X-Five, which has no safety, next to my bed. No need to find it.

If you sleep with a pistol, you're nuts, bruh. Lol.

 

[rph3664]

I didn't vote for Hillary in 2016. I actually cast my vote for her Veep candidate Tim Kaine, because I just liked everything about him.

I'm also happy with his selection of Kamala Harris, and let's face it - if they win the election, she's going to become president before 2024.

 

[Momus]

Trump for stocks gain but he is clearly an idiot for anything else.

Glad, I didn't waste my time watching the debate.

 

[zelman]

Who do you want on your side..a rapid dog or a passive bunny? Roy Cohn or John Lennon? I dont want to sit an have a beer with Trump and I dont like him...... I want him do his job....

Is Biden really the best the Democrats could offer? Hilary? ...... The old guard of the democratic party has not yet awoke to the new reality

I miss dignified politics

What was your first language?

 

[zelman]

Issue with current crop of Democrats is they are too far left.. Make healthcare free. Make schools free and forgive student debt. Make illegal immigrants legal and hand them free issuance.. I mean who the hell is going to pay for all this?

Obama and Clinton were kind of centrists. Trump is far right and I do worry that far right movement will get out of control if he gets 4 more years in the office. But his economic policy seems more sound than the rubbish Dems are constantly spouting. Also, China is becoming 800-pound gorilla in the room. Trump has shown the willingness to take a stand against them. Biden I reckon would just bow down to them.

Current Dem party has lost its way..

What’s your first language?

 

[zelman]

Doesn't really matter which candidate wins, nothing will change.

This is republican propaganda.

 

[zelman]

Trump at least has shown the willingness to stand up to them by imposing tariffs. What other presidents have done anything about this issue?

We are buying goods from China. When there are tariffs, our costs increase to pay those tariffs. China isn’t affected unless demand is elastic or there are alternative sources of those goods at lower expense. We do not come out ahead either way.

 

[zelman]

Keep in mind that the republican party was founded as the anti-slavery party and many people immigrated to America to escape communist/marxist/fascist governments which are the ideologies of the far left Bernie Bros and AOC +3. So the real question is why WOULDN'T people of color vote red? Plenty of reasons to vote for a party if you ignore who the individual you're voting for is.

Do you think people buy Kellogg’s Corn Flakes nowadays to decrease how much they masturbate? Times change. The Republican Party from a hundred years ago has no resemblance to their current state. People of color shouldn’t vote red because today it’s the party of white nationalists, not Abe Lincoln.

 

[Marzapan]

Do you think people buy Kellogg’s Corn Flakes nowadays to decrease how much they masturbate? Times change. The Republican Party from a hundred years ago has no resemblance to their current state. People of color shouldn’t vote red because today it’s the party of white nationalists, not Abe Lincoln.

That's the far right so give me a break. Using your same logic, you shouldn't vote blue because it's the party of socialists, communists, marxists and fascists, and the dem party has changed even more in the last hundred years. Most people are moderate left or moderate right so to the point of what we are discussing I can see voting go either way. But you gotta love liberal logic - "if you vote red you're racist!"

 

[wagrxm2000]

This is republican propaganda.

Tell me what Biden has done in his 47 years

Why does nothing ever get done?

 

[Startingover123]

I hope the far left understands a Biden win means at a minimum their won't be a socialist in office for another 12 years.

There is little doubt when Biden has to retire that Harris will take over for another 8 years.

Best thing to do is stay home, let Trump win and pray a socialist can win the democratic nomination

Or even better, get rid of the party system. There is no reason why Sanders isn't on stage right now with his 15 to 20% support.

You are wrong on so many levels.

 

[wagrxm2000]

You are wrong on so many levels.

So AOC is going to beat Harris?

 

[Startingover123]

So AOC is going to beat Harris?

The logic of let Trump win so AOC can win is pretty poor. I don’t think AOC has any shot of winning a general election anytime soon. The majority of Americans are moderates at heart. The masses won’t vote for a Marxist for an American president. Case in point Bernie couldn’t even win the nomination against Biden, who at this point can barely make a coherent thought.

 

[wagrxm2000]

The logic of let Trump win so AOC can win is pretty poor. I don’t think AOC has any shot of winning a general election anytime soon. The majority of Americans are moderates at heart. The masses won’t vote for a Marxist for an American president. Case in point Bernie couldn’t even win the nomination against Biden, who at this point can barely make a coherent thought.

So you're accepting defeat?

The only way the far left can win is with a failed Republican president.

There won't be any reason Harris goes farther left if Biden has a successful presidency. If he does bad, Republicans take over again.

There's a reason the DNC forced Biden on you. They know the far left will vote for him while the middle won't go far left.

They are dangling a carrot in front of you with partial promises that will never occur.

This is why I don't care which person wins. In the end, nothing ever changes

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Just a reminder that would could have had Andrew Yang.

 

[jacksmith228833]

What was your first language?

English...

 

[jacksmith228833]

So you're accepting defeat?

The only way the far left can win is with a failed Republican president.

There won't be any reason Harris goes farther left if Biden has a successful presidency. If he does bad, Republicans take over again.

There's a reason the DNC forced Biden on you. They know the far left will vote for him while the middle won't go far left.

They are dangling a carrot in front of you with partial promises that will never occur.

This is why I don't care which person wins. In the end, nothing ever changes

This is NOT the message I want for my daughter......

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[NITRAS]

These threads are hilarious.

Obama was a centrist and Trump is a far right.

Obama pushed through a huge expansion of government and lost both houses and lost all ability to push anything. Pushing for more leftist things would simply have lost him more seats. He was and is smart and intelligent.

Trump won because the Republican base was sick and tired of the establishment puppet, and he was standing there with his middle finger to them. It will cause some aneurisms to say that he could just have easily run as a Democrat (and probably just have easily have won).

And Biden doesn’t look good. The last 3 years he has looked so much older.

As someone who won‘t be voting for either candidate because I can’t stomach them.

 

[Sine Cura]

Tell me what Biden has done in his 47 years

Why does nothing ever get done?

Slow-motion disintegration is pretty done to me.

You expected nuclear war?

Not to say Biden specifically but the nature of human cesspoolization

 

[Startingover123]

So you're accepting defeat?

The only way the far left can win is with a failed Republican president.

There won't be any reason Harris goes farther left if Biden has a successful presidency. If he does bad, Republicans take over again.

There's a reason the DNC forced Biden on you. They know the far left will vote for him while the middle won't go far left.

They are dangling a carrot in front of you with partial promises that will never occur.

This is why I don't care which person wins. In the end, nothing ever changes

Defeat? Can you honestly tell me if you’re far left Trump would be better for you than Biden? My point is that whoever wins we will Never have a far left socialist as president. It will not happen.

 

[owlegrad]

Tell me what Biden has done in his 47 years

Why does nothing ever get done?

You certainly have this Trump talking point down. Would you like a literal list of every vote Biden has cast in >40 years?

 

[Marzapan]

Defeat? Can you honestly tell me if you’re far left Trump would be better for you than Biden? My point is that whoever wins we will Never have a far left socialist as president. It will not happen.

Isn't Kamala Harris far left? We all know Sleepy Joe isn't gonna last long if he's elected. He just needs to... you know... last to 2021.

 

[APN-59 rph]

I sleep like a baby every night knowing no one will be attacking my family.

Can you say the same?

And your training? Like the boxer said "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth..."

 

[BenJammin]

3 dudes with guns break into your house and get to you before you can react. How will your gun save you?

They will not guarantee safety. They only provide the illusion of safety.

I don't trust people that have never been in stressful situations with a firearm, anyway. Especially the high powered rifles the Call of Duty cosplay dorks have these days. I need a freaking acog sight on my AR15. Because who knows when the Chinese will invade.

I can just see one of those *****s firing wildly at some crackhead trying to steal their TV as their bullets pass through their walls into their neighbor's house, killing the dude next door while he's peacefully talking a crap.

Well golly miss molly you're right. We should just leave our doors wide open. If my wife gets sexually assaulted oh well there's nothing I can do about it. Just kill me for my ipod and bling bling.

Thankfully that line of thinking has been rejected in most areas of the country. Does a gun completely protect you? Definitely not. But at least it changes the odds and gives you a fighting chance. To deny us that right is the definition of evil.

 

[mustang sally]

My issue is HRSA not going after Eli Lilly and a few other companies for blatantly/unilaterally terminating contract pharmacies under 340b.

I suspect a lot of them are awaiting the election outcome, so from a financial standpoint I personally/professionally have more to gain from a Biden presidency.

Plus SALT will probably make a comeback if the senate also flips to blue. That should offset marginal tax increases.

But I’m more in the “Trump and his idiot racist followers will probably kill me at some point” vote bucket.

I wondered how Eli Lilly and the other companies could get away with that...was thinking to myself that it's not legal. Then I remembered Trump is president.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Well golly miss molly you're right. We should just leave our doors wide open. If my wife gets sexually assaulted oh well there's nothing I can do about it. Just kill me for my ipod and bling bling.

Thankfully that line of thinking has been rejected in most areas of the country. Does a gun completely protect you? Definitely not. But at least it changes the odds and gives you a fighting chance. To deny us that right is the definition of evil.

Ain't nobody trying to take away your pew pew security blanky.

Someone notes that firearms are far from a home security panacea and the gun nuts flip out and claim I'm trying to take their guns.

 

[Startingover123]

Isn't Kamala Harris far left? We all know Sleepy Joe isn't gonna last long if he's elected. He just needs to... you know... last to 2021.

I thought she was pretty left for my Taste.

 

[wagrxm2000]

Harris like all Democrats said what she had to in order to get voters. She won't be far left.

 

[wagrxm2000]

You certainly have this Trump talking point down. Would you like a literal list of every vote Biden has cast in >40 years?

It's quite simple really. How has Biden improved the working class. I can tell you right now with all these Democrats saying trickle down economics doesn't work they sure didn't improve the working class during the 8 years under Obama.

Oh and I wouldn't go through every vote, like all Democrats, he's changed to fit whatever agenda he needs to fill. Remember Obama was against illegals at one point.

Don't forget Biden was for segregation.

 

[grumpyRph]

Ain't nobody trying to take away your pew pew security blanky.

Someone notes that firearms are far from a home security panacea and the gun nuts flip out and claim I'm trying to take their guns.

i was saying these same things in another thread when guns got brought up. it's kind of the same mentality as crazy sports fans where they think their team is the best and no one else might be trying to win but their team. like there's always gonna be a winner and a loser.

 

[owlegrad]

If you’re worried about getting robbed I bet a security system will go a lot further than a gun. Won’t be as cool or as satisfying though I bet.

 

[johnpharm01]

These threads are hilarious.

Obama was a centrist and Trump is a far right.

Obama pushed through a huge expansion of government and lost both houses and lost all ability to push anything. Pushing for more leftist things would simply have lost him more seats. He was and is smart and intelligent.

Trump won because the Republican base was sick and tired of the establishment puppet, and he was standing there with his middle finger to them. It will cause some aneurisms to say that he could just have easily run as a Democrat (and probably just have easily have won).

And Biden doesn’t look good. The last 3 years he has looked so much older.

As someone who won‘t be voting for either candidate because I can’t stomach them.

Funny how you characterize Trump as a maverick. This is exactly how he would want you to believe. He may do things differently then previous presidents but it's not to benefit the US. He serves himself and himself only.

Opposed to Obama care? As a physician you don't worry about your patients access to healthcare?