No but I'm applying to a bs do program that's 6 years but makes you commit to primary care
I was a junior last year but now I'm a senior in high school and I'm trying to figure out what career to go into. And now I'm thinking about going to a 6 year bs do program which makes me commit to primary care so I want to know what I'm getting myself into- whats the salary ill be makingYou claim you are a junior in high school and most of your threads have been about how much money certain specialties make. We have our suspicions.
Well I know I want to go into healthcare (I want to see patients) and I want to make Atleast 200k so the only choices I have are a physician...If that's true sounds like a TERRIBLE deal. There are plenty of other programs where you don't have to make such a commitment. It's still to early for you to know if you want to be a physician let alone primary care.
The thing is I'm thinking about applying to a 6 year med program from high school that would save me msny years and I'll graduate debt free..Shadow some doctors to see if this is even the right bloody field for you, much less the right specialty and career outlook. You are skiing the wrong questions for your current place in time. Go check out the HS SDN sub-forum to get some information about what you should be doing now to prepare for college and then worry about getting into med school. Now is absolutely not the time to be fixated on things like salaries of single specialties in specific cities.
SDN will most likely argue against this program, but I think it's wonderful if you know for certain that you want to be in primary care.
Here's information to anyone interested:
*You will not make a million though
Well I know I want to go into healthcare (I want to see patients) and I want to make Atleast 200k so the only choices I have are a physician...
I don't want to have to go to school for 14 years and take 300,000+ debt to specialize when I can go to school for just 9 years and have NO debt and make the same money...
I'm not going into medicine just for the money...You shouldn't be going into medicine for the money. It's a driving factor, yes. "Making at least 200k" should not be a goal. Happinss, satisfaction, and fulfillment from your career should be your goal. If you really want to just "see patients" there are other options available. Any job in the ER you get to see a lot of patients. I won't discourage you from becoming a physician, but you should have the right motives before committing.
And that's not what I mean when I say "I just want to see patients" I mean I don't want to see patients that are "unconscious". I want to see regular "healthy" people who are coming for a check up or to ask a question about something, to get a prescription. You know basic stuff...You shouldn't be going into medicine for the money. It's a driving factor, yes. "Making at least 200k" should not be a goal. Happinss, satisfaction, and fulfillment from your career should be your goal. If you really want to just "see patients" there are other options available. Any job in the ER you get to see a lot of patients. I won't discourage you from becoming a physician, but you should have the right motives before committing.
When I say 200k I mean my parents.. My parents make about 250k a year a we have a pretty decent life in NYC (nothing spectacular but it's great) and I want to know that when I grow up I'll be able to continue this lifestyle that my parents are having with me for my kids...You are living a 200k/year lifestyle in HS?
Your idea of "basic stuff" is what nurse practitioners do, with some autonomy even. Why not look into that?
And that's not what I mean when I say "I just want to see patients" I mean I don't want to see patients that are "unconscious". I want to see regular "healthy" people who are coming for a check up or to ask a question about something, to get a prescription. You know basic stuff...
I understand that it's hard to predict how much one can make-,thanks fir being honest... It's just that 120-250 is such a big range with one side being extremely little while the other side is more than enough.. That's what bothers me...Here's the low-down man:
1. We cannot tell you how much a primary care physician in NYC will make in 10 years when you are an attending physician. We just can't and anyone who tells you they can is a liar. Medicine is going through a lot of change right now and a lot can change in a decade. I can tell you that PCPs in NYC make between 120k - 250k, based on data I googled, but these numbers mean nothing. These numbers mean nothing because their pay will depend on how their practice is structured, if they are employed or self-employed, what their lifestyle is like, what part of the city they practice in, what kind of insurance they take (if at all), etc. Primary care practice has a lot of variables.
2. Physicians see a lot more than see patients. Based on how the practice is structured you could do a lot of seeing patients or virtually none at all. These are questions we cannot answer for you, they are decisions you will have to make in the future as a physician and it is impossible to say what options will be open to you or what you will find more enjoyable.
Have you looked at other careers in other parts of the US? NYC isn't the only place to live - although it is an awesome place to live.
I understand that it's hard to predict how much one can make-,thanks fir being honest... It's just that 120-250 is such a big range with one side being extremely little while the other side is more than enough.. That's what bothers me...
And as far as moving well all my family and friends live here and I like my life here and I've seen other places and I just really like my life here and I don't want to have to move.... But it's just so expensive here and if I don't make Atleast 200k I'll have to move...
And if you want to make 200k while still having At least decent hours and have job stability and the pleasure of knowing your doing something good with your time, there's nothing else that comes to mind besides becoming a doctor... However I don't want to spend14 years in school and accumulate 300k+ in debt. and going to this bs do program will fix that because it will only be 9 years and no debt but I'm just worried that from a degree from lecom and being a primary care physician I won't be able to find a job in NYC that will pay over 200k
Wow that was deep.. thank you for that.Again, there's no way for us to assuage this concern. There's just too many variables - you either take the dive or you don't.
I think that going to undergrad the traditional way - perhaps trying to graduate in three years if you are so adamant about cutting costs and going straight into the workforce - because it will give you room to explore other careers, other options through your university's career services, your interactions with other students, continued engagement in the medical world, etc. Debt is a reality in this country. You are right to be debt averse, that certainly isn't a bad thing and I'm glad you understand what it would take to continue your lifestyle and be able to provide it for your children but this time in your life right now - graduating high school and going off to college - is about self-discovery, self-actualization, and figuring out what is truly important to you when you are pushed outside of your comfort zone. A lot could change from now until you graduate undergrad, I know I have changed a lot. You might never change your career choice, but I can almost guarantee your priorities certainly will.
Wow that was deep.. thank you for that.
I guess your right. Maybe I should just go down the traditional path..
I called them up they said they had sites in Brooklyn that I could work in that's near nyc...After looking at your other posts you have mentioned the NHSC scholarship. You need to examine that much more closely. You will not be working in NYC with that scholarship so 5+ years of your life would be stuck in the sticks. If you really want to consider this scholarship you also need to know it is competitive and that they will be looking for volunteering experience and desire to work with the underserved.
I'm not the best standernized test taker and if I were to go down the traditional route i would need a lot of time to study for the mcat so finishing in 3 years is not going to be possible.. If anything I might need to take a gap year to finish studying...Why has no one addressed the fact that your life now and 9 years from now is going to be different? You can't plan that far ahead and locking yourself into this program is a bad idea. If you want to reduce debt go to a state undergrad or CUNY or go on scholarship to college. Go to a state medical school. Take summer classes to graduate in 3 years and save time.
Don't lock yourself into primary care from highschool and you aren't promised a 200k salary. You might make less you might make more.
This is also true. If I go the traditional way I'll have to do tons of shadowing, volunteer work, research, studying for mcat, studying extra hard for classes, etcIf you want to go into primary care, you better get there with the least amount of debt otherwise it will haunt you a while preventing you from having the "lifestyle" you describe.
I also want to comment that my undegrad experience has been (sadly) largely influenced by being occupied with activities that med schools "expect" us to do. Had I not have to do them, maybe I would have done something that interests me more, but does not necessarily look great on paper.
This is also true. If I go the traditional way I'll have to do tons of shadowing, volunteer work, research, studying for mcat, studying extra hard for classes, etc
In this program I don't have to do any of that... The only requirement is a 3.2 science gpa... I'll have tons of free time