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DrBlueDevil,

Right on!

I totally agree with you and relatively prime on this topic.

Sorry BushGirl....I even see that as stretching the limits of what is considered ethical. Especially if it was a graded course he made up.

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really slyydogg? thats, like, totally wrong. i mean like really really wrong. if that was on a scale of not wrong to incredibly wrong, you would be totally wrong (like i said). <img border="0" alt="[Wowie]" title="" src="graemlins/wowie.gif" />
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by DrBlueDevil:
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And MAN! Bushbaby..that's ridiculous. Unless your prof just gave you a C, chances are the grade pushed you ahead of another student at your school in overall rank. Not fair at all. It's interesting to see you try to diminish the magnitude of the situation by calling the advanced bio class an "elective." As if that's supposed to make it any less corrupt or unfair. •••••You guys are something else. Well sorry but I am not hung up over rankings, I was just trying to see if I could take a class or not. Like I said I didn't ask him to "hook" me up. For your info, I don't even know what he gave me because for some ODD reason...I don't even see the class on my transcript. I am guessing it was pass/fail. I didn't even ask or bother to check up on it. I just needed my diploma because I needed proof that I graduated (for a job).


•••quote:••••What made me write this post is seeing you explain how the school tried to f*** you up. What the hell kind of attitude is that??? Hypothetical situation: What happens when a patient presents with symptoms that seem to indicate one disease, you prescribe what you think is the right treatment, and it ends up hurting the patient because you didn't notice some nuance that would have made you realize a different course of action should have been taken. Your being handed a diploma doesn't bother me nearly as much as your unwillingness to take responsibility for your situation.•••••HUH? You guys are trying to make me feel guilty....LOL. Give it UP ALREADY. This happened two years ago in 2000......I am not feeling guilty!!!!!! GEEZ. The grade I got wasn't even tabulated into my GPA. My gpa was 3.8 before I found out about the class and was 3.8 after I got the "hook-up". I am sure all he did was type a note/comment into my record so when the registrar or admissions office guy saw it,he would "okay" my diploma being sent out.
 
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I still don't see what you guys are making a fuss about.......okay if I have sinned or done something terribly wrong and unforgiveable then forgive me because I do not see what's so hideous in what I did.

What happened is between me and my GOD and ONLY He has a right to judge. So get off your high horses.
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete,
it shall be measured to you again.
-- Matthew 7:1,2

That's all I have to say....I love the attention BUT this thread isn't about ME....NOW LET'S focus and get back to the topic!!!!
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by BushBaby:
•I still don't see what you guys are making a fuss about.......okay if I have sinned or done something terribly wrong and unforgiveable then forgive me because I do not see what's so hideous in what I did.•••••The sad part is that you can't see the difference between going to an entire semester of class, completing assignments, taking exams as opposed to getting a buddy professor to give you a fake grade that you subsequently pass of as real.
 
Well... in that case, how do you even know he gave you credit for the class?! maybe he didn't do what you think he did. Maybe he just wrote a letter to the head person and was like "This student doesn't have all the courses, but let her graduate anyway... "
 
well, what you did definitely was wrong. i'm not saying it was heinous or anything or that most people wouldn't have done the same thing in your shoes, but it is frustrating for people who actually took those extra 3 credits and got a bad grade in the course or had financial troubles because of it. since it didn't factor into your gpa it's really not that big of a deal. however, i do understand why people are upset.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by DrMom:
The sad part is that you can't see the difference between going to an entire semester of class, completing assignments, taking exams as opposed to getting a buddy professor to give you a fake grade that you subsequently pass of as real.•••••Yeah well ...it's sad but hey we all aren't born saint now are we? I didn't "GET" anybody to do anything. He suggested/volunteered. ALSO....I was TREMEDOUSLY RELIEVED when he offered me the deal. Instead of paying that $1900 to the school, I could now pay it to princeton for the MCAT.....!!!!
 
BushBaby,
I'm with you on this one..
If someone offered me a harmless and helpful hook up like that, I'd take it, and I don't know anyone who wouldn't..if they say they wouldn't, I'd have a hard time believing them. oh well..don't worry about it, they are trying to make you feel guilty, don't. my opinoin!

peace
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by BushBaby:
•What happened is between me and my GOD and ONLY He has a right to judge. So get off your high horses.
Judge Not, Lest Ye Be Judged (sorry but I got to take it the bible on this one)•••••Let's leave god out of this! hahaha...I am not trying to make you feel guilty, I just think it sucks that everyone else had to take this class that you KNEW you had to take but ended up getting a favor to get out of it. It's a whole class, not just a test or something. A lot of people miss tests b/c of illnesses or family members dying and professors will help you out in those situations.

Here's the reasons why your deal in our eyes is worse:

1) It was YOUR fault you didn't take that course. You knew you had to take it yet you kept pushing it back and avoiding it. YOUR FAULT.
1b) You blame the school for not letting you know until you almost graduated

2) It was a whole course that you just skipped...not a test or a discussion.

3) You are bragging about it. And carrying an attitude with it
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by relatively prime:
•Well... in that case, how do you even know he gave you credit for the class?! maybe he didn't do what you think he did. Maybe he just wrote a letter to the head person and was like "This student doesn't have all the courses, but let her graduate anyway... "•••••Yeah you are right maybe that's what he did because I certainly do not see any "extra" courses on my transcript. I don't think he can do that (put in a fake class on the transcript only the registrar's office can probably do official stuff like that)....he probably wrote a note.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Scooby Doo:
•Here's the reasons why your deal in our eyes is worse:

1) It was YOUR fault you didn't take that course. You knew you had to take it yet you kept pushing it back and avoiding it. YOUR FAULT.
1b) You blame the school for not letting you know until you almost graduated

2) It was a whole course that you just skipped...not a test or a discussion.

3) You are bragging about it. And carrying an attitude with it•••••My thoughts exactly!
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Scooby Doo:
Let's leave god out of this! hahaha...I am not trying to make you feel guilty, I just think it sucks that everyone else had to take this class that you KNEW you had to take but ended up getting a favor to get out of it. It's a whole class, not just a test or something. A lot of people miss tests b/c of illnesses or family members dying and professors will help you out in those situations.

Here's the reasons why your deal in our eyes is worse:

1) It was YOUR fault you didn't take that course. You knew you had to take it yet you kept pushing it back and avoiding it. YOUR FAULT.
1b) You blame the school for not letting you know until you almost graduated

2) It was a whole course that you just skipped...not a test or a discussion.

3) You are bragging about it. And carrying an attitude with it•••••I agree with you on #1....yeah I know I had to take it but nobody mentioned it....truthfully I never had time in my schedule do fit in an extra class and I was pushing it off until senior year when most people have lots of time...but it just didn't work out because I took a dance class soph year that didn't meet the dance requirement for a bio major.

On #1b-the school has a reputation of calling students "back" after graduating. It happened to a couple of other people I know in various majors and they said "F it", I don't need no stinking diploma copy (not right now anyway)-they never bothered returning to take the classes.

On #2- no comment

On #3- I am NOT BRAGGING, I reserve my bragging rights for other things. I wrote in to support the "it's who you" theory but would you guys let sleeping dogs lie.....noooooo you have to drag me in the dirt...!

On Paragraph #1- I have my share of run in's with professors okay. I had to take a class over because some stupid jerk that I trusted to hand in my final paper lost it and the prof gave me a D. It's not like I had an easy ride and I get professors to do me "favors". If they had told me early enough that that dance class( I took as a soph) didn't qualify as a requirement for a bio major, then I wouldn't have had to take ANOTHER dance class my senior year...giving me less time to take another more important class.
 
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•••quote:•••Originally posted by BushBaby:
• I have my share of run in's with professors okay. I had to take a class over because some stupid jerk that I trusted to hand in my final paper lost it and the prof gave me a D. It's not like I had an easy ride and I get professors to do me "favors".•••••Just curious...How is this a run in with a professor? Looks like you just picked the wrong person to deliver a paper.
 
ok, we are all being a little too hard on bushbaby. i really don't think he/she was bragging about what happened. yes bushbaby, you should feel a little guilty, since you knew the course was a requirement. and yes, you should have arranged to get an exemption from it when the semester started. but hey, everyone makes mistakes, and i think bushbaby was just giving an example of how connections help.
 
Dr. Blue Devil: You are so right. I am glad we are going to be classmates soon. :)

•••quote:•••Originally posted by BushBaby:
•What happened is between me and my GOD and ONLY He has a right to judge. So get off your high horses.
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete,
it shall be measured to you again.
-- Matthew 7:1,2 •••••Please do not distort the Bible, a Holy book of God, to defend your abonimable actions. I really do not want to go into the ethics of this case because anyone who has an ounce of conscience knows what is right and what is wrong here. However, I think it is utterly offensive to degrade the words of God in order to justify your actions. Why not choose some of the other more applicable verses?

"I urge you, brethren, keep your eye on those who cause dissensions and hindrances contrary to the teaching which you learned, and turn away from them. For such men are slaves, not of our Lord Christ but of their own appetites; and by their smooth and flattering speech they deceive the hearts of the unsuspecting." (Romans 16:17-18)

"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; who substitute bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and clever in their own sight!" (Isaiah 5:20-21)

"[You] are confident that you yourself are a guide of the blind, a light to those who are in darkness, a corrector of the foolish, a teacher of babies, having in the law the form of knowledge and of the truth. You therefore who teach another, don't you teach yourself? You who preach that a man shouldn't steal, do you steal? You who say a man shouldn't commit adultery, do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples? You who glory in the law, through your disobedience of the law do you dishonor God?" Romans 2:19-23

"Better a little with righteousness than much gain with injustice." (NIV, Proverbs 16:8)
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Please, show some respect and do not show utter disregard for the words of God in an attempt to justify your actions; for those words hold a much more sacred value for some of us than to be wasted on such an issue where everyone should know what is right and what is wrong without thinking twice.

And those who are familiar with my previous posts know that I rarely, If Ever, quote from the Bible or any religious text, in order to prove my point. In fact, I think this is the first time I have ever done so, but you using the Bible in such a way brought it out in me.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by lola:
•ok, we are all being a little too hard on bushbaby. i really don't think he/she was bragging about what happened. yes bushbaby, you should feel a little guilty, since you knew the course was a requirement. and yes, you should have arranged to get an exemption from it when the semester started. but hey, everyone makes mistakes, and i think bushbaby was just giving an example of how connections help.•••••WOOHOO.....and then there was light!!!...you are like a breathe of fresh air.....(inhaling)...
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by praying4MD:
•How dare you use and distort the Bible, a Holy book of God, to defend your abonimable actions? I really do not want to go into the ethics of this case because anyone who has an ounce of conscience knows what is right and what is wrong here. However, I think it is utterly offensive to degrade the words of God in order to justify your actions. Why not choose some of the other more applicable verses?
•••••NO...how DARE YOU! I posted that for those who are quick to pass judgement on others. I wasn't trying to justify what happened with that quote. I said what happened and what happens in MY (not yours) life is between me and MY GOD. ONLY HE knew what was going on in my heart (and what still goes on it in my heart)....and so ONLY HE can judge me or has a RIGHT to JUDGE ME. Unlike some people I am not quick to judge anyone because I have not walked in their shoes and do not know the trial and tribulations they go thru. If he finds fault in what I did, then that's between Him and me and I have to suffer the consequences. But like I said, that's between Him and me.

So like I said before, get off your high and mighty horse.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by DrMom:
• •••quote:•••Originally posted by BushBaby:
• I have my share of run in's with professors okay. I had to take a class over because some stupid jerk that I trusted to hand in my final paper lost it and the prof gave me a D. It's not like I had an easy ride and I get professors to do me "favors".•••••Just curious...How is this a run in with a professor? Looks like you just picked the wrong person to deliver a paper.•••••Fine sue me....bad example.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by starplayer:
•BushBaby,
I'm with you on this one..
If someone offered me a harmless and helpful hook up like that, I'd take it, and I don't know anyone who wouldn't..if they say they wouldn't, I'd have a hard time believing them. oh well..don't worry about it, they are trying to make you feel guilty, don't. my opinoin!

peace•••••Whassup Starplayer!!! These people are trying to give someone hypertension up in here over nothing that concerns them really. LOL. And they are soo quick to judge...geez. Never have I seen such a bunch..!
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by BushBaby:
•NO...how DARE YOU! I posted that for those who are quick to pass judgement on others. I wasn't trying to justify what happened with that quote. I said what happened and what happens in MY (not yours) life is between me and MY GOD. ONLY HE knew what was going on in my heart (and what still goes on it in my heart)....and so ONLY HE can judge me or has a RIGHT to JUDGE ME. Unlike some people I am not quick to judge anyone because I have not walked in their shoes and do not know the trial and tribulations they go thru. If he finds fault in what I did, then that's between Him and me and I have to suffer the consequences. But like I said, that's between Him and me.

So like I said before, get off your high and mighty horse.•••••My goodness I sense some hostility here. :rolleyes:

BushBaby: I don't think that anyone is trying to make this a personal attack. You gave your scenario and we're trying to explain why we see it as wrong.

BTW: you don't have to walk in someone's shoes to see if something is right or wrong. We make those judgements every day.
 
OK, guys. I wasn't going to say anything, but as of now I am a waiter at Legal Sea Foods. I am also a certified trainer. That's right: a CERTIFIED TRAINER! I would be glad to use my pull if I can. Just let me know what I can do...LOL

Gary
 
As long as Bushbaby didn't get an official grade (like an A) I don't see anything wrong with it. I was missing a lower level analysis class but I spoke to the advisor WHO DID NOT KNOW ME AT ALL and he said that as long as I take the more advanced real analysis class (which was also required for my degree) I needn't worry about it. I did, got an A+ and they gave me my degree. I didn't get a grade for the lower level class, it was not on my transcript, but the committee that goes over everyone's transcripts for required courses recommended me for graduation, as I'm sure happened with Bushbaby.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by moo:
•As long as Bushbaby didn't get an official grade (like an A) I don't see anything wrong with it. I was missing a lower level analysis class but I spoke to the advisor WHO DID NOT KNOW ME AT ALL and he said that as long as I take the more advanced real analysis class (which was also required for my degree) I needn't worry about it. I did, got an A+ and they gave me my degree. I didn't get a grade for the lower level class, it was not on my transcript, but the committee that goes over everyone's transcripts for required courses recommended me for graduation, as I'm sure happened with Bushbaby.•••••That's totally 100% completely different!! That's like getting credit for Spanish I by completing Spanish II... which is perfectly fair.
 
The whole "judge not" angle doesn't work. First of all, I am not saying you, as a person, are unethical; I am saying that you handled the incident in an unethical way. Therefore, I am not judging you as a person. Knowing the circumstances, I can safely say that by most normal standards, the way you handled it was certainly unethical. You call it judging. I call it voicing the truth without any bullsh*t attached.

You judge every day. So do I. No matter how hard we try, we still do it. It is not always bad to do either. I judge a rapist by his actions. I judge terrorists by their actions. I am not going to sit by and say, "Well, blowing up a building full of innocent people is between God and the terrorist... who am to judge?" :rolleyes:
I certainly hope you and others feel this the same.

All I am saying is what Scooby was saying: Leave God out of it!
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by moo:
•As long as Bushbaby didn't get an official grade (like an A) I don't see anything wrong with it. I was missing a lower level analysis class but I spoke to the advisor WHO DID NOT KNOW ME AT ALL and he said that as long as I take the more advanced real analysis class (which was also required for my degree) I needn't worry about it. I did, got an A+ and they gave me my degree. I didn't get a grade for the lower level class, it was not on my transcript, but the committee that goes over everyone's transcripts for required courses recommended me for graduation, as I'm sure happened with Bushbaby.•••••What BushBaby described sounds like s/he got to graduate with 132 credit hours while everyone else had to take 135 (just grabbing numbers to make a point). That is different than substituting a higher level class for a lower one.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by DrMom:
•]My goodness I sense some hostility here. :rolleyes:

BushBaby: I don't think that anyone is trying to make this a personal attack. You gave your scenario and we're trying to explain why we see it as wrong.

BTW: you don't have to walk in someone's shoes to see if something is right or wrong. We make those judgements every day.•••••Right, you don't have to walk in someone's shoe to see right/wrong.

I don't have a problem (I really really really don't) if people see what I did as "wrong" that's their bizness. ....but DON'T give me that "I am holier than thou" b*tchmoan (cause I will quickly slap you into kingdom come). (this is not to you DrMom, I am just saying this about people in general).
I said I AM PERFECTLY FINE with what I did...as long as you aren't sleeping in my bed...then worry about yours and let me handle mine.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by praying4MD:
•The whole "judge not" angle doesn't work. First of all, I am not saying you, as a person, are unethical; I am saying that you handled the incident in an unethical way. Therefore, I am not judging you as a person. Knowing the circumstances, I can safely say that by most normal standards, the way you handled it was certainly unethical. You call it judging. I call it voicing the truth without any bullsh*t attached.

•••••I am not sure what the problem is, maybe you guys woke up on the wrong side of your beds this morning, or whatever.I am now tired to beating a dead horse.
I didn't sleep with anybody, i didn't kill anybody, I didn't pay anybody, this professor just decided to let me graduate after 4 years of hard work...no more no less..bless his sweet ol' heart!
Are you guys jealous cause you HAD to take all the courses required to graduate???? I hope you aren't taking all your frustration and anger you feel (with this or with life in general)out on poor little me??? Now that's not fair.
:D
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by praying4MD:
•All I am saying is what Scooby was saying: Leave God out of it!•••••What do ya know!!!

IN the SAME THREAD, P4MD and DRMom and Scooby ALL AGREE!!!!!!!!!

It's amazing!!!!!!!!!
 
For the record, I do not intend to come across as "holier than thou." My intention was to prevent the misuse of the Bible and its quotes because it is considered a sacred text for some people and its abuse is offensive to some people.

Secondly, we are not "jealous" because we have nothing to be jealous of. I can look at my diploma proudly and know that I earned every bit of it. Can you say the same? Now *that* is something to envy, not cheating the system.

I will not delve into the ethics of it, because as someone who commuted an hour and a half for three years, even on those days when I only had an "elective" 3 hour course, and as someone who slaved away just to satisfy the unbelievable red tape and bureacracy at my school, I find this behavior unacceptable from an ethical standpoint. The fact that we are having to debate whether it was ethical or not just proves that the discussion is not worth our time. If we are debating something so bloody obvious, then we already know that we are in totally different realms of ethics and will not convince one another.
 
I can't stand this childish goody two shoe attitude displayed the majority of posters here.

If you think what Bush did was bad wait till you hear this:

My sister who attends a Boston medical school has a couple distant friends who during the summer between their first and second years decided they wanted to get published. Well, the two of them did some sexual favors for their PIs and guess what....they got published. And they didn't even show up at work half the time. Apparently they showed up whenever they wanted (like once a week).
And my sister who slaved 6 days a week did not get published.

Welcome to the real world. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Scooby Doo:
• •••quote:•••Originally posted by praying4MD:
•All I am saying is what Scooby was saying: Leave God out of it!•••••What do ya know!!!

IN the SAME THREAD, P4MD and DRMom and Scooby ALL AGREE!!!!!!!!!

It's amazing!!!!!!!!!•••••Me too!
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by scootad.:
•I can't stand this childish goody two shoe attitude displayed the majority of posters here.

If you think what Bush did was bad wait till you hear this:

My sister who attends a Boston medical school has a couple distant friends who during the summer between their first and second years decided they wanted to get published. Well, the two of them did some sexual favors for their PIs and guess what....they got published. And they didn't even show up at work half the time. Apparently they showed up whenever they wanted (like once a week).
And my sister who slaved 6 days a week did not get published.

Welcome to the real world. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> •••••And I hope your sister learned her lesson.

j/k :wink:
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by scootad.:
•I can't stand this childish goody two shoe attitude displayed the majority of posters here.

Welcome to the real world. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> •••••I thoroughly understand that in the *real world* not everyone does the right thing. :rolleyes: Funny how you see us as childish.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by praying4MD:

Secondly, we are not "jealous" because we have nothing to be jealous of. I can look at my diploma proudly and know that I earned every bit of it. Can you say the same? Now *that* is something to envy, not cheating the system.

•••••Yes I actually Can say i earned that darn diploma...endless nights of studying for orgo and physics did pay off I must say.

Big wooplah I didn't take a 3 credit elective course....so what you think that makes you "better" than me???
Moving on...
 
bushbaby,
did you earn those 3 credits in another dept or did you graduate 3 credits short?
 
this thread is too funny :D
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by BushBaby:
•HUH? You guys are trying to make me feel guilty....LOL. Give it UP ALREADY. This happened two years ago in 2000......I am not feeling guilty!!!!!! GEEZ. The grade I got wasn't even tabulated into my GPA. My gpa was 3.8 before I found out about the class and was 3.8 after I got the "hook-up". I am sure all he did was type a note/comment into my record so when the registrar or admissions office guy saw it,he would "okay" my diploma being sent out.•••••I'm not trying to make you feel guilty...I don't believe in "right" or "wrong" (agnostic...). The only thing that got me about your original post is that you said your school tried to f*** you up, and I'm saying that it's your responsibility, not any other entity's, to make sure your life's in order. Yeah, I don't think it's cool there are profs out there who just hand out grades...but like I said, it's the fact that you felt screwed over by the school that really got to me. It would be completely different if they imposed some new requirement after you matriculated AND HELD YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT NEW REQUIREMENT, but it doesn't sound like that was the case.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Scooby Doo:
• •••quote:•••Originally posted by praying4MD:
•All I am saying is what Scooby was saying: Leave God out of it!•••••What do ya know!!!

IN the SAME THREAD, P4MD and DRMom and Scooby ALL AGREE!!!!!!!!!

It's amazing!!!!!!!!!•••••A sure sign of the apocalypse! <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> :D <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" />
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by scootad.:
•I can't stand this childish goody two shoe attitude displayed the majority of posters here.

•••••I don't know scootad, but I think they needed a scapegoat for today and they found her....LOL. Wonder who they'll pick tomorrow. You better watch you... :wink:
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by lola:
•bushbaby,
did you earn those 3 credits in another dept or did you graduate 3 credits short?•••••Truthfully, I don't even know. My transcript looks the same it did when I looked at it the day before graduation. Whatever happened, happened between the bio prof and the registrar's office.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by DrBlueDevil:
•I'm not trying to make you feel guilty...I don't believe in "right" or "wrong" (agnostic...). The only thing that got me about your original post is that you said your school tried to f*** you up, and I'm saying that it's your responsibility, not any other entity's, to make sure your life's in order. Yeah, I don't think it's cool there are profs out there who just hand out grades...but like I said, it's the fact that you felt screwed over by the school that really got to me. It would be completely different if they imposed some new requirement after you matriculated AND HELD YOU RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT NEW REQUIREMENT, but it doesn't sound like that was the case.•••••Okay let's clear this up...he didn't give me a grade because there is no grade/class on my transcript for this "mysterious course". He obviously knows someone, that he spoke to, allowing me to get my diploma.

I said the school tried to F me up (if I knew you guys would blow up the situation, maybe i would have stated that differently) by that I meant that I had my summer plans all planned out, my friends/family all thought I was done/a new graduate, and I was about to start a job but they needed a copy of my diploma just to prove I graduated. Everything is in order then BOOM BAMB SLAM....I have to uh? I have to take another what .... ? class you say? surely you jest....

It's like playing monopoly, passing Go and collecting your $200 then you land on community chest and you are sent to Jail or you have to taxes.WTF..I thought i was home free/in the clear.
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by BushBaby:
•I had my summer plans all planned out, my friends/family all thought I was done/a new graduate, and I was about to start a job but they needed a copy of my diploma just to prove I graduated. Everything is in order then BOOM BAMB SLAM....I have to uh? I have to take another what .... ? class you say? surely you jest....
•••••To borrow a term from Scootad...that's just the real world. :D

BTW: I'm still confused as to why you were surprised by this...you said that you knew you were short by that elective. Nevermind, it's really not important.
 
LOL Geneman.

I overheard my sister saying to my mom, "why did you have to raise me with values?? I coulda had a phat publication!"
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by DrMom:


BTW: I'm still confused as to why you were surprised by this...you said that you knew you were short by that elective. Nevermind, it's really not important.•••••I am saying DrMom...this was not like the day after I graduated this way a month and a half after I graduated. And I just went in to inquire about when I will get my diploma and the lady told me that I wasn't done. Then about a week later I got the offcial letter in the mail that I wasn't done.
I wasn't surprised that I had an elective to take (I thought they'd let me slide.. :D since I was such a good student), I was more surprised that they actually let me graduate and go thru the award ceremonies. They even gave me an award....lol. Like I said I wasn't the only person this happened to but it sucks. One of my classmates (an international student) planned to return home that summer until he got that letter, unlike moi he didn't even know he was missing a class, so imagine his surprise.
 
Hey Bushbaby--

If you were able to get out of the class and didn't receive a grade or credits b/c you had some upper level stuff that met the requirement, then way to beat the system and congrats on saving $1900.

If, however, you got a grade/credits for a class you didn't actually attend, I'm gonna have to echo P4MD, Scooby, DrMom, Relatively Prime, DrBlueDevil...etc. And I don't think anyone is making a character judgement on you-- just this one particular action. no one should receive credit for work they didn't do, i don't care who they know.

If I were you, I'd find out exactly how my butt got out of taking that class. I wouldn't want to have some med school interviewer ask me how exactly I managed to graduate with fewer than the expected credit hours. I don't think there's a good way to answer that question...
 
one question-- why did you think they'd let you slip through without taking the class if several other people got "caught" doing the same thing and had to return post-graduation?
 
PILE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I, personally, am viciously jealous. To think of all the classes i had to attend, assignments to be done, and hours of work my parents put in so i could take EVERY single class!! I realize now that we're all suckers!! --Trek
 
•••quote:•••Originally posted by Sweet Tea:
•Hey Bushbaby--

If I were you, I'd find out exactly how my butt got out of taking that class. I wouldn't want to have some med school interviewer ask me how exactly I managed to graduate with fewer than the expected credit hours. I don't think there's a good way to answer that question...•••••All was done two years ago and I see no point in going back to a school that doesn't want to look up my financial aid info for me anymore because I graduated "oh so long ago and the system probably flushed it somewhere". As for my interviewer, I believe he/she has better things to do than count my college credits. Also on that note, I am happily done with all my interviewing.
 
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