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They do say that you have to be a resident for one year in VA (or MD, depending which you're applying for residency for) to be considered a resident :\

There's actually different types of residency which is the problem. There's domiciliary residents and actual residents. All require maintaining a place of abode in Virginia (which we have) and filing VA income tax (which we did). I actually went to a Virginia school and paid IS tuition so we'll see how it goes. What makes me mad is that someone could move there for 1 year and get residency but I almost my entire life there, left temporarily while filing taxes and paying the state but I'm not considered a resident.
 
so this may seem like a trivial, silly, stupid rant to some people...

but i'm having such a hard time with my friends this year! my goal was to be less of a hermit and hang out with my friends more often cause last semester i never did anything, but they're all SO BUSY with interviews for fancy jobs and what not and never have time 🙁 i'm not applying till next year so i'm just sitting around getting my work done...i feel silly for feeling lonely, when i'm 21 and really shouldn't be concerned with things like that. ugh it's my senior year and i really want to enjoy it and i absolutely HATE feeling this way cause i should be in 100% control of my feelings!

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It's not stupid and trivial. I've been dealing with the same thing since I started undergrad. I'm the only student in the 4th year of my program who didn't go to highschool in the area. All of these people live with their parents and hung out with each other in highschool. I went to highschool 6 hours away and I live alone in an apartment. I'm finding it really difficult to make friends with these people because they've known each other for a long time. There is nobody here that is like me, who came to this unversity knowing nobody!

I'm trying my hardest. I have a few aquaintences and made one good friend so far... in my three years of trying to fit in. This year is going pretty good so far. I'm one of 8 students doing an honours thesis and I'm starting to get to know them. Last night we all got together at a prof's house and gave informal presentations on our research so far. The point of the meeting was to get to know what each student was doing and to feel comfortable going to these people for support and advice. It went very well!
 
There's actually different types of residency which is the problem. There's domiciliary residents and actual residents. All require maintaining a place of abode in Virginia (which we have) and filing VA income tax (which we did). I actually went to a Virginia school and paid IS tuition so we'll see how it goes. What makes me mad is that someone could move there for 1 year and get residency but I almost my entire life there, left temporarily while filing taxes and paying the state but I'm not considered a resident.


Haha - I think you have every right to fight this. You ARE a VA resident. I know every school could be different, but for heaven's sake, I lived in South Africa for 12 years, then PA for 1 year, and because I had kept a bank account and ID in CA, I was considered a resident when I came back. (now 6 years ago...)

Go, Fight, Win! 😉
 
It's not stupid and trivial. I've been dealing with the same thing since I started undergrad. I'm the only student in the 4th year of my program who didn't go to highschool in the area. All of these people live with their parents and hung out with each other in highschool. I went to highschool 6 hours away and I live alone in an apartment. I'm finding it really difficult to make friends with these people because they've known each other for a long time. There is nobody here that is like me, who came to this unversity knowing nobody!

I'm trying my hardest. I have a few aquaintences and made one good friend so far... in my three years of trying to fit in. This year is going pretty good so far. I'm one of 8 students doing an honours thesis and I'm starting to get to know them. Last night we all got together at a prof's house and gave informal presentations on our research so far. The point of the meeting was to get to know what each student was doing and to feel comfortable going to these people for support and advice. It went very well!

I started undergrad in Massachusetts, but I've lived my whole like in Florida. It's really hard to come out of your shell when you don't have anyone to fall back on, and it's hard to find people to hang out with when you don't have something a little less broad in common than a huge lecture room. I am so thankful that I lived in the dorms my first 2 years, because otherwise I probably would have been miserable and alone. Join a club or something and get to know the people in there, or start going to an exercise class. There are other people out there who want to make friends, too.

When I moved back home, I thought it was going to be easy...I mean I lived my whole life here. Turns out, all my friends were gone or had already made new friend groups that I didn't fit into. It took more adjustment, but I've made some really awesome friends now and I wouldn't trade them for the world.
 
I started undergrad in Massachusetts, but I've lived my whole like in Florida. It's really hard to come out of your shell when you don't have anyone to fall back on, and it's hard to find people to hang out with when you don't have something a little less broad in common than a huge lecture room. I am so thankful that I lived in the dorms my first 2 years, because otherwise I probably would have been miserable and alone. Join a club or something and get to know the people in there, or start going to an exercise class. There are other people out there who want to make friends, too.

When I moved back home, I thought it was going to be easy...I mean I lived my whole life here. Turns out, all my friends were gone or had already made new friend groups that I didn't fit into. It took more adjustment, but I've made some really awesome friends now and I wouldn't trade them for the world.

it's not so much that i don't have friends, it's just that the friends i have are busy figuring out their lives after graduation and i'm just sitting on my a** a lot of the time because no one has time. since i'm not applying till after i graduate i seem to have a lot of extra time that i would LIKE to use to hang out with the friends i have, but CAN'T 👎

just hard for me because i feel like i'm behind everyone else and getting left behind. i'm hoping spring semester when people know where they're going that it'll be better. who knows.
 
So since I switched my major, I have to take a mechanics class. I'm not clumsy, just not mechanically inclined and these weeks leading up to our first lab rotations have been so scary. Well, I started my hot metal working rotation today and managed to burn my hand and get a blister. Here I am, wimpy little girl wailing away on my steel rod while the guys just whack along nonchalantly and form really good pieces. My hay hook is slightly crooked and very pathetic looking 🙁 The forge was really hot and I was sweating and stinky and hurting and then I had to haul my ass up the hill to get to my next, non-airconditioned class. Boo.

STILL no letter from Dr. P. Even after he says he'd have it in Friday or Saturday. Grumble..
 
Scratched my cornea taking off my student ID from around my neck. Had to go to the emergency room because student health closes early on thursdays.

Another night of studying down the tubes.

Can't I at least have get a patch for my eye and tell people I was attacked by a crazed cat or something?
 
My body has revolted on me. I started out with a cold, and now has moved on to a rash that's threatening to take over my whole body when not controlled by allergy medications. My cold did get better, but this is ridiculous.

I went to the student health center. You would think that if they REQUIRE you purchase health insurance they would have decent doctors on staff. Instead I'm fairly certain I would have gotten more help off of WebMD. She "didn't know". Awesome. Thanks for the insight.

Its probably stress related, which means "time" and "buttloads of allergy meds" are probably my only recourse. Funny thing was it started on a monday...Can I officially say I'm allergic to mondays?
 
Normally I like my men with camo hats, but for whatever reason, I've always loved snakebites! Not many people seem to have them anymore. Did they kind of have a short burst of popularity or something?

I have no idea. I had mine for about 10 years, and only took them out permanently when I started working full time as a tech at an emergency practice where they we're allowed. Taking them out and putting them back in on a daily basis got really old, so I finally just left them out.
 
I woke up with a sore throat construction.

And our municipality decided to tear up the section of highway before the university and the section of highway just past the university. They should have tore this up in the SUMMER when 1/100th of the students aren't travelling back and forth on these roads. I waited 45 minutes for the bus yesterday.

They just started construction on the section of road going from my house to the university. I have a lab at 8:30. On a normal day, the bus gets to the university right at 8:30, so I always end up being a couple of minutes late for labs (there is no freaking way I'm getting up one hour earlier just to be early for an lab just because the bus sucks and because the university doesn't have to schedule labs... classes start at 8:40 now to accomodate the buses, but they didn't switch the lab slots?? The bus runs every hour here!) If this construction makes me later than a few minutes, I'm going to track down the mayor, steal his car, and make HIM take the bus to see how how likes it. I also have to pick up batteries for my calculator this morning before lab... which is going to make me even more late....*sigh*

Someone should have told me about the bus system and how ******ed the municipality is before I agreed to go to this univesity. I honestly wouldn't have come because this is getting rediculous.
 
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We got our unembalmed equine forelimb earlier this week (many of which were already moldy... thank goodness mine wasn't), but the exam is not for another 2 weeks. They will get very smelly and disgusting within just the next couple of days... meaning we really only have this weekend to study it before it turns really green and slimy. ew.
 
Good ol' CSU and their moldy limbs! I took the graduate dissection class last Spring and our horse limb was moldy green and reeked of rot from the moment we started on it. Disgusting. Hold yer nose, minnerbelle!
 
Ugh! As if I didn't already have ENOUGH stuff to worry and stress me out, now my dog is an allergic freak!!

On Monday night he had a funny bump over his right eye, didn't really think much of it. On Tuesday morning I woke up and he was sleeping on my bed. I asked him if he wanted to go potty, and he turned to look at me. I literally SCREAMED. His entire head had blown up to about 3 times its normal size and he looked horrifying. I could barely see his eyes with all the swelling. It was like something out of a horror movie. So I got on the phone with the Ohio State Vet Hospital and they said to bring him in right away. The gave him IM benadryl and IV dexamethasone and send him home with instructions to give him some benadryl again in 8 hours. His head was already looking better when we left and within 24 hours was down to its normal size.

Last night, I noticed his right eye starting to look funny again. It was starting to swell so I gave him 50 mgs of benadryl and decided to wait and see. The swelling went down and he fell asleep, so I left it alone. This morning at 7:30 am he woke me up because he was panting. Like legit, hard-core panting. The air conditioning was on and it wasn't hot but his body felt warm to the touch. So I took his temperature. It was normal, 101.2, but he just wasn't right. He wasn't interested in his food, he was itching his feet on the carpet, rubbing his face on the furniture, and he vomited. I started my walk to class and called the hospital on the way there to see if I could make an appointment for later in the afternoon.

Well I was halfway to class and the receptionist got done talking to the vet that had seen him on Tuesday and they told me to bring him in right away. So I did, and I had the same 4th year vet student which was nice because she knew already what was going on. As I was explaining to her what has gone on since he'd been there last, I looked down at him and he was completely covered in hives. So she took him back, I spoke with the vet, yadayadayada. So now he's on predisone, benadryl, and famotidine for the next 7 days and we still don't know what he's allergic to. He's been exposed to nothing new, no cleaners, no new food, nothing.

So this is really frustrating because I'm trying to get my classes going, get my stuff in order for pre-vet club and the equestrian team, and well as finish my VMCAS, get my ELORs to submit, and finish my supplemental. I'm just super stressed to add this on top of it, plus of course, I feel terrible for my dog. He seems so itchy and uncomfortable and he's always exhausted because of the meds he's on.

On a side note, if anyone saw a swelled-up, hives-ridden, itchy but otherwise adorable brindle boxer named Cassius at the OSU vet hospital-that was my dog. Haha =)
 
@ LivestockDoc, hahahaha.... Oh the hanging horse.

Did I ever tell you that I had a dream I rode it out of the freezer as a jocky one night when no one else was in the lab? I think that was shortly after the face dissection, where it dripped blood all over the back of my lab coat while I was getting entirely too close to its face. I REEKED. My roommates hated me that week.

I also lost my apetite for a week during the reproduction section because we had "fresh reproductive tracts" to examine. I dunno about you, but fresh to me doesn't mean its been sitting in this tupperware unfrozen for the past week. I've got a strong stomach and the smell was still making it hard for me to put my face too close to it. lol.

My rant for this friday...

One of my eLORS still hasn't submitted. It is the vet I planned to use for my vet LOR requirement. There is one week left. I've constantly reminded her every time I see her, called her every friday to let her know its coming up. I just emailed her again reminding her of the deadline and I will call her this afternoon so that there is a message for her when she goes to her office to return phone calls from this afternoon. But. Seriously.

I'm about to panic as I've been scared to submit my VMCAS because if she doesn't come through, my application will essentially be void, and I'll be out all that money. Which I don't want to happen, but I'm also going to freak out if I submit it and that happens.

I want to crawl into a hole somewhere. 🙁

Also, my stupid 100 level animal science class' first exam asked a lot of stupid statistical memorization questions after he alluded to the test being incredibly easy. Lets just say "which country is the biggest producer of (food)", "What percent of (animal) is produced by this country", and "What is milk production measured in" = I missed these and stupidly got a B on the exam. Maybe I should actually study for the exams in that class instead of assuming I know it all. Luckily, label the heart = loleasy and label the anatomical directions = this is like speaking a second language to me anyway so I didn't feel like a complete failure. I didn't even know we were going to have diagrams to label.

I still feel really stupid.
 
One of my eLORS still hasn't submitted. It is the vet I planned to use for my vet LOR requirement. There is one week left. I've constantly reminded her every time I see her, called her every friday to let her know its coming up. I just emailed her again reminding her of the deadline and I will call her this afternoon so that there is a message for her when she goes to her office to return phone calls from this afternoon. But. Seriously.

I'm about to panic as I've been scared to submit my VMCAS because if she doesn't come through, my application will essentially be void, and I'll be out all that money. Which I don't want to happen, but I'm also going to freak out if I submit it and that happens.

I want to crawl into a hole somewhere. 🙁

Hi Kipani,

Hopefully this will make you feel a bit better:

3 out of 4 of my eLORS have yet to submit!! 😱 And good 'ole VMCAS sending those nice red font emails reminding me is NOT helping my blood pressure one bit. Heck, I had to add the 4th this week because I can't even FIND one of my people which really blows because he's my academic evaluation and if he doesn't submit, there goes Cornell at minimum. If I don't hear from him by Monday I'm thinking about going on a man hunt...

If you find that hole, let me know - I'll come keep you company. I'm getting too old for this crap.
 
We got our unembalmed equine forelimb earlier this week (many of which were already moldy... thank goodness mine wasn't), but the exam is not for another 2 weeks. They will get very smelly and disgusting within just the next couple of days... meaning we really only have this weekend to study it before it turns really green and slimy. ew.

Why do they not embalm it?
 
Good ol' CSU and their moldy limbs! I took the graduate dissection class last Spring and our horse limb was moldy green and reeked of rot from the moment we started on it. Disgusting. Hold yer nose, minnerbelle!

I heard last year was awful! At least my group's was frozen well, not moldy, and still not smelly after 3 days. I guess we're on the lucky side of things...

@ LivestockDoc, hahahaha.... Oh the hanging horse.

Did I ever tell you that I had a dream I rode it out of the freezer as a jocky one night when no one else was in the lab?

omg, that would be so cool! with the hard hats and all... I'd totally do it, but I have a feeling that would somehow constitute an honor code violation.

Why do they not embalm it?
i have no idea. maybe it said in our notes, but i don't remember...
 
Scratched my cornea taking off my student ID from around my neck. Had to go to the emergency room because student health closes early on thursdays.

Another night of studying down the tubes.

Can't I at least have get a patch for my eye and tell people I was attacked by a crazed cat or something?

🙁!!! im sooo sry all these bad things keep happening to u!! u seem like u'r still in high spirits tho! still crackin jokes! 😀
 
Same! I hate that class and I don't understand it. Every bio student that has taken it said it was sooo easy 🙁. Gosh darnit, it's NOT.

The way our professor teaches it is crazzyyy! We dont have exams at all. Instead we have problem sets that he gives us a week to complete..I need all that time. I think I spent about 12 hours working on it, and that was the only the first one! He says he teaches it like a graduate level course and even my biochem lab professor (he also teaches the course alternating years) said that was one of the toughest he has seen for my professors first problem set. I dont think it is easy AT ALL! There is A LOT of organic chem in it (which I really understand and love) but it just doesnt click in that class....grrr we can enjoy the misery together! 🙂
 
The way our professor teaches it is crazzyyy! We dont have exams at all. Instead we have problem sets that he gives us a week to complete..I need all that time. I think I spent about 12 hours working on it, and that was the only the first one! He says he teaches it like a graduate level course and even my biochem lab professor (he also teaches the course alternating years) said that was one of the toughest he has seen for my professors first problem set. I dont think it is easy AT ALL! There is A LOT of organic chem in it (which I really understand and love) but it just doesnt click in that class....grrr we can enjoy the misery together! 🙂

our bchm exam I is monday! our first exam of the year and then the cycle of exams is continuous ahhh lol. Our biochem is like bchm and genetics mixed lol and they fly through it! we have around 7 hrs of lecture each week for it :laugh: im really not laughing though.

i used to hate bchm but they teach clinical relevance after each process they talk about, this is really cool! it is the first time in my life where i thought bchm was interesting lol
 
So this morning I get to work and for the past few days we have had a parvo puppy hospitalized. The puppy had either some really bad vomiting or diarrhea during the night (I am voting diarrhea just because of the smell) and somehow we had ants invade the hospital last night and apparently they like the taste of parvo diarrhea. The poor puppy had ants in front of her in the kennel. Luckily none were on her as she was laying in the opposite corner and it is quite a large kennel. And lucky for me I was on hospitalized patient duty this morning. So I moved her over to the other kennel, gave her AM treatments, got her TPR, force fed her some food and then I went to work on the ant infested kennel. Sprayed it out with massive amounts of bleach water (did not want to use bug spray since the puppy was in the kennel next to it and the isolation ward isn't the biggest room in the world) and then rinsed down all of the ants. I am not kidding, not even two minutes later there are about 20 more ants in that kennel. 😱 So I repeat my dousing of bleach water and spraying massive amounts of water in there to rinse down the ants again. And again about 3 minutes later there are more ants! 😡 So I finally had no choice but to use bug spray. Luckily now the puppy is not near the ants. By about 2 this afternoon the other kennel she is in now also has ants in it and these are the only two big kennels in the isolation ward. So I have no choice but to move her to our big kennels for larger dogs that do not have contagious diseases and make that room into our new isolation ward. Then I did a massive spray down with bug spray of the entire isolation ward.

It was a very messy, stinky day today. I can still smell parvo, bleach, and bug spray.

(And in case anyone is wondering. We do not have people on staff during the night. For hospitalized patients we do recommend owners take their pets to the emergency clinic so they can have someone always watching them, but for those who can not afford it we will allow the pets to stay at the hospital. We do warn them of things that can possibly happen such as get tangled in fluid lines or tearing out a catheter; all hosp. pets are required to wear an e-collar; we tell them that while this does not happen often there is a chance it can. So the owners are informed of potential hazards and are the ones to make the decision as to whether they want their pets to stay with us without supervision or at the emergency clinic with supervision).
 
i couldn't hate vet school any more if i tried. 😡
 
our bchm exam I is monday! our first exam of the year and then the cycle of exams is continuous ahhh lol. Our biochem is like bchm and genetics mixed lol and they fly through it! we have around 7 hrs of lecture each week for it :laugh: im really not laughing though.

i used to hate bchm but they teach clinical relevance after each process they talk about, this is really cool! it is the first time in my life where i thought bchm was interesting lol

Our first physiological chem (analogous to biochem) exam is on Monday, too! But our first exam of the year was today, in behavior, and it also happened to be a final exam. Good luck Pennwe-types! 😀

edit: I don't have a rant. But I need to start studying a little more soon or else I probably will come test time. :laugh:
 
omg thanks so much, i had no idea that you all responded to my rant. 😳 as expected the material is overwhelming but i love it. i've just had a really hard time with the dynamics of the social aspect and the shadiness & "catiness" of some groups. but i know if i can get adjusted with the right people that things will get better. there are just some shady untrustworthy people ruining the experience for me and making me hate vet school.

your support is amazing as always and i really do appreciate it. 🙂 thank you so much!!
 
our bchm exam I is monday! our first exam of the year and then the cycle of exams is continuous ahhh lol. Our biochem is like bchm and genetics mixed lol and they fly through it! we have around 7 hrs of lecture each week for it :laugh: im really not laughing though.

i used to hate bchm but they teach clinical relevance after each process they talk about, this is really cool! it is the first time in my life where i thought bchm was interesting lol

Well at least they show the relevance of it more in your class, if they did that with this one I think I would be WAY more into it, but right now I just dont care for it. Hopefully it will change as the semester goes on🙂 Anyways Good Luck on your exam 🙂
 
i've just had a really hard time with the dynamics of the social aspect and the shadiness & "catiness" of some groups. but i know if i can get adjusted with the right people that things will get better. there are just some shady untrustworthy people ruining the experience for me and making me hate vet school.

aww i'm sorry rileyroo! but I totally understand. i'm usually a pretty happy go lucky kind of person, but there have been days where i've been close to telling people to shut up and f*** off to their face. some people are VERY shady, and i'm sure they are everywhere else too, but it sucks when you're forced to be with them all day everyday.
 
What do y'all mean by shady? Shady makes me think of stealing and date raping, and I really hope that's not what you mean.
 
i couldn't hate vet school any more if i tried. 😡

Oh no! 🙁 Hopefully it was just a bad day and you're feeling better now.

Oh wait... Just saw that you posted again and things are looking up a bit. Try and hang in there... I'm sure there's a few good folks hidden in there someplace! Or at least there better be... 😉
 
Oh i'm so sorry!! You should totally just hang out with my friends Rachel and Katherine. I <3 them! School is actually getting better for me. At first I was studying my rear off...then I really decided that I didn't care if I made A's on every test (even though averages were mostly A's) School will fly by! I can't believe I'm over half way done with this semester already. Just take it week by week. War eagle!
 
It was a very messy, stinky day today. I can still smell parvo, bleach, and bug spray.

I'm SO sorry to hear about this!! Poor puppy and poor you!! 🙁

Darn ants, once you think you've got 'em back they come!! Little buggers seem to like the taste of cat barf as well... I learned from an exterminator that you have to spray their trail down or they keep coming back. Of course, finding the trail is sometimes the hardest part; but it sounds like you probably got them with the whole room spray. :xf:for you and the pup!!
 
aww i'm sorry rileyroo! but I totally understand. i'm usually a pretty happy go lucky kind of person, but there have been days where i've been close to telling people to shut up and f*** off to their face. some people are VERY shady, and i'm sure they are everywhere else too, but it sucks when you're forced to be with them all day everyday.

Wow- you guys are making me so glad to be at Minnesota. Maybe it's just the Minnesota-nice, but we still get along really well!
 
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Wow- you guys are making me so glad to be at Minnesota. Maybe it's just the Minnesota-nice, but we still get along really well!

don't even get me started...i was praying i didn't get accepted to my IS b/c UMn was my #1 and then i wouldn't have to make the decision. :laugh: i chose my IS for tuition alone and there are great people in my class, i just got sucked into a bad group to start out and it's been nothing but high school stupidity. hopefully i'll transition out of this group and into a better group of true friends and not have to worry about the nonsense. i'm here for vet school, not the trivial aspects. thanks again for the support. 🙂
 
don't even get me started...i was praying i didn't get accepted to my IS b/c UMn was my #1 and then i wouldn't have to make the decision. :laugh: i chose my IS for tuition alone and there are great people in my class, i just got sucked into a bad group to start out and it's been nothing but high school stupidity. hopefully i'll transition out of this group and into a better group of true friends and not have to worry about the nonsense. i'm here for vet school, not the trivial aspects. thanks again for the support. 🙂

We miss you, girl- but good luck with the craziness! Maybe we'll meet in person soon!
 
don't even get me started...i was praying i didn't get accepted to my IS b/c UMn was my #1 and then i wouldn't have to make the decision. :laugh: i chose my IS for tuition alone and there are great people in my class, i just got sucked into a bad group to start out and it's been nothing but high school stupidity. hopefully i'll transition out of this group and into a better group of true friends and not have to worry about the nonsense. i'm here for vet school, not the trivial aspects. thanks again for the support. 🙂

I hear that the people you hang with the first year are often the people you never see again after VM1. Just a little comfort.
 
Hang in there rileyroo...school has just begun...you've got a few more years to find a good crowd that you enjoy (it won't take that long! 😉) If you ever need to rant more/need a listening ear, you know where to find us! You can get through it 🙂
 
I hear that the people you hang with the first year are often the people you never see again after VM1. Just a little comfort.

What does this mean for our long-term relationship, T? 🙂
 
Wow- you guys are making me so glad to be at Minnesota. Maybe it's just the Minnesota-nice, but we still get along really well!

oh i didn't mean to make it seem like our class was full of icky people or anything. most people are really nice... but in a class of 140, there's always going to be a handful that you don't get along with. And that's generally perfectly fine as long as you don't have to cross paths with them that often, but that's not always feasible given the 8am - 4pm schedule that we have. (that and i tend to be on the crotchety side of personalities too, so that doesn't help all that much 😛)
 
I have a cold too! What is this crap? At least I didn't get my nose pierced yet - I hear snot isn't great for the healing process. :d

As for those catty folks, feel free to let them know when they're being rude and immature. Be very polite about it. If that doesn't make them feel bad about how they've acted... well, then **** 'em. Bitches.
 
I think that a lot of folks start out vet school super insecure about a lot of things...classwork, making new friends, living in a new city, etc.

But, I think as people settle in and find their niche, a lot of that first month drama subsides. There were quite a few people whom I found to be incredibly annoying during the first month of school that I really, really like now...and even the folks that still get under my skin sometimes seem to have toned it down. I think it helps a lot too that I'm more comfortable with everything, and have found ways to cope when all the drama gets a little too intense.

So, while it sucks right now, I can almost guarantee that it will get a lot better. Hang in there! 🙂
 
I must not be in the loop or we're just a tame class. I'm not picking up on much drama in our class. There's a bit but no more than in undergrad.
 
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