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Life is too short and death comes too unexpected. We lost a wonderful member of the CVM family yesterday. Very sad, she was a great soul.
🙁 our neighbor died from stage 4 pulmonary carcinoma yesterday (but she lived 3.5 years beyond diagnosis, so she had some excellent time)
 
Eh, it's kind of a non-issue (which is why I labelled it "minor whine"), since we only get them at white coat ceremony and then technically never have to wear them again since we're done with the teaching hospital, and my employer gives me lab coats. It was just annoying at the drastic change in quality between our blue coats and our white coats. I'll probably opt for the XS just so it looks half decent in white coat ceremony pictures (IE so I don't end up with a bunch of photos of me looking like a little kid playing dress up).

Oops. I didn't even realize who was posting .... just read the post and thought it was someone starting rotations.

I started out wearing my coat like a good dutiful student. Then I said "this is stupid - I hate the coat, and I'm dressed professionally underneath it". So now I just wear either scrubs or slacks/nice shirt. Whichever makes sense. If they want to ding my grade for it, fair enough.
 
🙁 our neighbor died from stage 4 pulmonary carcinoma yesterday (but she lived 3.5 years beyond diagnosis, so she had some excellent time)

My internmate's mom just died from the same, except that she only made it like 2 months beyond diagnosis. Such a weird curve. Hate cancer.
 
My internmate's mom just died from the same, except that she only made it like 2 months beyond diagnosis. Such a weird curve. Hate cancer.
ugh that is so horrible. i think everyone is amazed this woman did so well for so long, she was given just a few months at the initial diagnosis.

another one of my classmates lost her doggie this evening, this time to a hemoabdomen. thats 4 this year in clinics 🙁 😢
 
Penn also just lost a clinician out at NBC. Supposedly he was a fun guy...I never had the chance to meet him though.

Rant: Spent too much money today at the mall and I'm convinced my guinea pigs are trying to convince me to kill them with their grid chewing. Any luck with the plexiglass @jmo1012 ? I might have to do something similar.
 
Penn also just lost a clinician out at NBC. Supposedly he was a fun guy...I never had the chance to meet him though.

Rant: Spent too much money today at the mall and I'm convinced my guinea pigs are trying to convince me to kill them with their grid chewing. Any luck with the plexiglass @jmo1012 ? I might have to do something similar.
Yes!!! So far she's left it all alone! Admittedly I'm shocked, but so far so good! If nothing else, so far we've had one quiet week!
 
Ive been having lower back pain for almost 3 weeks now.. Im seeing a chiropractor and Monday I seemed to make some improvement. But Tuesday morning I woke up hurting as bad as I did in the beginning. So today I go to be seen again and im back where I started... Until I got home and tried to clip my puppies toenails.. While sitting on the floor I felt something pop in my back and had a sudden shooting pain down my right leg. Ever since I have been in pretty serious pain and my leg feels "weird" . Husband is saying I need to see my primary care provider. But I dont know what they will do for me - except give me pain meds and tell me to ice etc. I just want to not hurt anymore.

Yeah seriously don't put this off! I speak from experience. Back stuff is serious especially when your sciatic becomes involved!
 
Oops. I didn't even realize who was posting .... just read the post and thought it was someone starting rotations.

I started out wearing my coat like a good dutiful student. Then I said "this is stupid - I hate the coat, and I'm dressed professionally underneath it". So now I just wear either scrubs or slacks/nice shirt. Whichever makes sense. If they want to ding my grade for it, fair enough.

I liked wearing our blue coats on rotation because it kept a lot of hair off my professional clothes and whenever I had to be on the ground with a creature or reaching or other such movements, my butt wasn't hanging out. And, more importantly, POCKETS.
 
A little miffed because a friend made me wake up early on my day off so she can drop off her cat for the day. then said she was running late... Okay fine no biggie. Been there. But then she delays more so she can study for a test before dropping the cat off. I know it's petty and stupid but it takes forever for me to fall asleep and I just feel like my time's been disrespected.

Fooey.

 
A little miffed because a friend made me wake up early on my day off so she can drop off her cat for the day. then said she was running late... Okay fine no biggie. Been there. But then she delays more so she can study for a test before dropping the cat off. I know it's petty and stupid but it takes forever for me to fall asleep and I just feel like my time's been disrespected.

Fooey.
Yeah, that's pretty rude of her. She could have studied after dropping the cat off...
 
Penn also just lost a clinician out at NBC. Supposedly he was a fun guy...I never had the chance to meet him though.

Rant: Spent too much money today at the mall and I'm convinced my guinea pigs are trying to convince me to kill them with their grid chewing. Any luck with the plexiglass @jmo1012 ? I might have to do something similar.
Let me know if you try it out, I'd be very curious to hear what your piggies think! They sell 8x10 pieces at home depot for about $3 apiece
 
Okay, maybe my estrogen surge is getting to me right now, but my SO makes me so angry. It's my last weekend at home with him, and he chooses to go out to dinner with his parents (who he can see whenever he wants), as opposed to going out with my friends and I for dinner. He has nothing against said friends and seems to enjoy hanging out with them. Why?! When he called me to see what I was doing tonight, he sounded surprised that I decided to go out with my friends (we talked about it last night) as opposed to sitting at home doing nothing with his parents. Ugh. Oh well, I'll just enjoy myself without him.
 
Winter 2015 strikes again. A plane hit a power line coming into the airport this morning. All flights canceled until later this morning. On the phone with my airline now. And I am severely sleep deprived to boot.

ETA: Hopefully this didn't sound too bitchy, I probably shouldn't post on an empty stomach and two hours of sleep. If you're interested, AC624 is all over the media. 23 people were sent to hospital, luckily no life threatening injuries and all but one have been treated and released. I got rebooked on a flight tomorrow, so at least I can get some sleep and I only miss one day of my externship. Fortunately my parents only live ~1 hour from the airport so they could pick me up and take me back tomorrow.
 
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We had to euthanize our 8 month old Australian Shepherd puppy, Orville, on Friday. 🙁. He was in kidney failure and we noticed something was up when it snowed on Tuesday and he didn't want to play in the snow. Took him in on Wednesday, got him some fluids, got some fluids for home. He seemed to be doing better after his appointment and after having his evening fluids, he was almost normal again. On Thursday, I got home from work, and he was just getting worse again, so we decided that we weren't going to let him get any sicker, so we took him in Friday morning and said good bye.

To make matters worse, the office manager (wife of the doctor who owns the clinic) came out to talk to my mom about money their bookwork said my mom owed them from her business (we used this vet clinic for personal pets and business animals). My mom said that she was sure the money was paid and she would double check our bookwork and our accounts. But the office manager wouldn't let up. I must have had an intense look on my face because the head tech (who is wonderful) asked if my sister and I would like to go into the room to get Orville comfy. My mom didn't come into the room for another few minutes because the office manager was still arguing with my mom about the money. Like, really? We're hear to euthanize our 8 month old puppy with congenital kidney failure and you want to argue with us about money we say we paid you and will double check?! YOU HAVE OUR PHONE NUMBER!!! You can call us to set up a formal meeting to get this taken care of, not when we're euthanizing our puppy!!!! Thankfully, my dad couldn't come and the doctor who is the office manager's husband was not the attending vet for the day. My dad would have been extremely mad. The poor techs were all so embarrassed and we only dealt with Dr. Smith (an amazing vet who is very compassionate!) for the rest of our time there.
 
i am going to be stuck paying an extra $600 in rent for an apartment i wont be living in anymore because my roommate signed a lease that goes through mid-june, and NCSU is forcing me to go elsewhere for my last rotation. I'm moving out early may. unless this girl decides to fork over money out of the goodness of her heart, i'm also going to lose money into the security deposit because like an immature child, she let her dog chew carpet in multiple places. this is why kids shouldnt be responsible for puppies people.
 
Dear Mom,

Stop texting me with all your friends' questions about meds and things to do with their animals. You know my response will be talk to their vet. Most recent text "suggestions for pain meds for animal that was just spayed or neutered."

:uhno:

If they weren't given anything, I sooo want to know who/which practice it was because that pisses me off to no end. Really hoping they didn't given the animal Advil or anything in the meantime...
 
My shoulder has been killing me the last few weeks. There's a constant pain and then it like to hurt worse at strange times like pushing an elevator button. Will probably end up at the orthopedics sometime this week. But I know they're going to tell me I need to go to physio for some soft tissue thing and ain't nobody got time for that with clinics starting in a month.
 
My shoulder has been killing me the last few weeks. There's a constant pain and then it like to hurt worse at strange times like pushing an elevator button. Will probably end up at the orthopedics sometime this week. But I know they're going to tell me I need to go to physio for some soft tissue thing and ain't nobody got time for that with clinics starting in a month.
shoulder physio isn't very time consuming. And can be the difference between sleeping and not....go to a doctor
 
Dear Mom,

Stop texting me with all your friends' questions about meds and things to do with their animals. You know my response will be talk to their vet. Most recent text "suggestions for pain meds for animal that was just spayed or neutered."

:uhno:

If they weren't given anything, I sooo want to know who/which practice it was because that pisses me off to no end. Really hoping they didn't given the animal Advil or anything in the meantime...
unfortunately, I can think of several instances where I've come across Facebook posts asking friends for veterinary advice, and friends telling the poster to give the dog Tylenol. No people, just...no.
 
unfortunately, I can think of several instances where I've come across Facebook posts asking friends for veterinary advice, and friends telling the poster to give the dog Tylenol. No people, just...no.

Turns out it was a cat neuter done at one of the local shelters. For the price listed on the website, I am a bit surprised it didn't include some extra pain meds, but it makes a bit more sense now. When my mom first asked, I assumed it was a dog.

Either way, I told them their options are to call the shelter in the AM or shell out the walk in fee for our Emergency practice.
 
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Make sure they don't give the cat Tylenol (unless they want a dead cat).
 
My shoulder has been killing me the last few weeks. There's a constant pain and then it like to hurt worse at strange times like pushing an elevator button. Will probably end up at the orthopedics sometime this week. But I know they're going to tell me I need to go to physio for some soft tissue thing and ain't nobody got time for that with clinics starting in a month.
Ddx: tendinitis vs. labral tear. Ice/PT/NSAIDs for 3-4 weeks. If that doesn't work, getting an MRI :/ I really hope it works because an MRI means more things after an MRI and that's when the clinical things start.

And now my shoulder really hurts because he was yanking on it.
 
Ddx: tendinitis vs. labral tear. Ice/PT/NSAIDs for 3-4 weeks. If that doesn't work, getting an MRI :/ I really hope it works because an MRI means more things after an MRI and that's when the clinical things start.

And now my shoulder really hurts because he was yanking on it.
sorry :/

Hope its just tendinitis for your sake
 
Roomie is going to freaking Barcelona while I'm on internal medicine in like a month.

I'm insanely jealous. womp womp. damn it vet school. ;_;
 
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Ddx: tendinitis vs. labral tear. Ice/PT/NSAIDs for 3-4 weeks. If that doesn't work, getting an MRI :/ I really hope it works because an MRI means more things after an MRI and that's when the clinical things start.

And now my shoulder really hurts because he was yanking on it.

Ugh. I had a labral tear. Had surgery 5 months before starting clinics. Not fun times. I hope you'll fare better.
 
My mom called to ask me if I'm at home. Still have class until 5. She then says I should call her back later, so I ask if this is a good thing or bad thing. It's obviously bad, so now I get to spend the next 4+ hours wondering who is sick, dead or whatever other bad thing could have happened.
 
Couldn't wait for the news. A good friend's (and ultimately my friend as well---knew him since I was 5 ) younger brother committed suicide earlier today. He's been having some difficulty with depression, so I'm not totally caught off guard, but it doesn't suck any less. He'd been getting help for a while, so I was hoping he was making some improvements with everything but even with my brief bout with depression, I know it's not the easiest thing to overcome. He was such a character and fun to be around, so you often couldn't tell things were difficult for him.
 
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So sorry Orca 🙁

Personal rant, my brother who's getting married is the biggest boneheaded idiot I can think of. I'm loathe to call him my brother right now, let alone a man. He decided he wanted his guardian to do the mother stuff (which is what, a dance at the reception) but instead of telling my mother himself, he had my aunt, her sister, his guardian, do it for him. The guy's 23 years old. Act like it!
 
One of my professors is being less than sympathetic about the death of my friend. I'm going to miss a lab because I'll be home for the services and unfortunately I'll be missing a class later this month because I'm in a wedding. Not even an I'm sorry for your loss. Just "don't miss anymore class." I get having required attendance and the importance of it all, but it's not like I'm skipping to do something fun and enjoyable. wouldn't have cared so much about the "dont Miss class part" if I had just gotten a simple "I'm sorry."
 
One of my professors is being less than sympathetic about the death of my friend. I'm going to miss a lab because I'll be home for the services and unfortunately I'll be missing a class later this month because I'm in a wedding. Not even an I'm sorry for your loss. Just "don't miss anymore class." I get having required attendance and the importance of it all, but it's not like I'm skipping to do something fun and enjoyable. wouldn't have cared so much about the "dont Miss class part" if I had just gotten a simple "I'm sorry."

That is absolutely infuriating of your professro and I'm so sorry for your loss. You take whatever time you need to grieve properly, and screw anyone who thinks any sort of lab or class is in any way more important than that.
 
That is absolutely infuriating of your professro and I'm so sorry for your loss. You take whatever time you need to grieve properly, and screw anyone who thinks any sort of lab or class is in any way more important than that.

Oh I know. I wasn't going to go either way even if my grade drops. His death and my best friend's wedding are more important to me. I'm just completely shocked because he seems like a nice/okay guy otherwise.
 
Had to deal with one of our worst clients....3 hours of him wanting xrays that don't need to be done, then asking to price match our services, getting physically riled up in the exam room....a whole bunch of crap.

I know these clients are not the majority, but ugh.
 
I get an award that includes a check made out to me, a cash sum that is intended to be used by me however I see fit (per their own rep and letter etc specifically stating it is not necessarily a scholarship that needs to be used for tuition).

Now, the last scholarship I received earlier this year I did submit to the school because it was designated for that. The school then used the funds and retroactively applied it to this and last semester's tuition. Fine, I guess, but I ended up only getting about half of the money because the other half pushed me over the amount they calculate for cost of attendance and so they just applied it to my loans. Again, fine, not a huge deal.

This time though, I want this money. I already earmarked it for moving expenses for my summer internship thingy, which falls perfectly in line with what the award is for (ASLAP award, using money to help fund an ASLAP fellowship, = makes perfect sense).

Unfortunately, they mailed the check and award to the DVM who nominated me, who then forwarded it to the school because she didn't have my address. So the school has it, and wants me to come in and sign the back so they can submit it to the office of student finance. I explain that I want to just keep it, because its for me, and THEY WON'T LET ME. They essentially just decided that it's a scholarship, even though I showed them the email and the letter stating that it specifically ISN'T.

After hours of emailing back and forth and actually going in to talk to the woman who has it, I give up. The best I could do was ensure they apply it to next semester's tuition so hopefully I'll actually get that money back eventually.

BLARG.
 
I get an award that includes a check made out to me, a cash sum that is intended to be used by me however I see fit (per their own rep and letter etc specifically stating it is not necessarily a scholarship that needs to be used for tuition).

Now, the last scholarship I received earlier this year I did submit to the school because it was designated for that. The school then used the funds and retroactively applied it to this and last semester's tuition. Fine, I guess, but I ended up only getting about half of the money because the other half pushed me over the amount they calculate for cost of attendance and so they just applied it to my loans. Again, fine, not a huge deal.

This time though, I want this money. I already earmarked it for moving expenses for my summer internship thingy, which falls perfectly in line with what the award is for (ASLAP award, using money to help fund an ASLAP fellowship, = makes perfect sense).

Unfortunately, they mailed the check and award to the DVM who nominated me, who then forwarded it to the school because she didn't have my address. So the school has it, and wants me to come in and sign the back so they can submit it to the office of student finance. I explain that I want to just keep it, because its for me, and THEY WON'T LET ME. They essentially just decided that it's a scholarship, even though I showed them the email and the letter stating that it specifically ISN'T.

After hours of emailing back and forth and actually going in to talk to the woman who has it, I give up. The best I could do was ensure they apply it to next semester's tuition so hopefully I'll actually get that money back eventually.

BLARG.
What the...how is that even legal?
 
I get an award that includes a check made out to me, a cash sum that is intended to be used by me however I see fit (per their own rep and letter etc specifically stating it is not necessarily a scholarship that needs to be used for tuition).

Now, the last scholarship I received earlier this year I did submit to the school because it was designated for that. The school then used the funds and retroactively applied it to this and last semester's tuition. Fine, I guess, but I ended up only getting about half of the money because the other half pushed me over the amount they calculate for cost of attendance and so they just applied it to my loans. Again, fine, not a huge deal.

This time though, I want this money. I already earmarked it for moving expenses for my summer internship thingy, which falls perfectly in line with what the award is for (ASLAP award, using money to help fund an ASLAP fellowship, = makes perfect sense).

Unfortunately, they mailed the check and award to the DVM who nominated me, who then forwarded it to the school because she didn't have my address. So the school has it, and wants me to come in and sign the back so they can submit it to the office of student finance. I explain that I want to just keep it, because its for me, and THEY WON'T LET ME. They essentially just decided that it's a scholarship, even though I showed them the email and the letter stating that it specifically ISN'T.

After hours of emailing back and forth and actually going in to talk to the woman who has it, I give up. The best I could do was ensure they apply it to next semester's tuition so hopefully I'll actually get that money back eventually.

BLARG.

Sounds like quite a few laws broken here. I'm assuming the following:

1. The check was mailed in a letter with your name on it. Meaning they opened up mail addressed to you. I believe this is a felony at minimum a misdemeanor.

2. They can't hold a check not in their name. It belongs to you, basically they are stealing.

Maybe call the people who are giving you the money? I mean just a polite, hey could you help me with this or see if they can't call the school and see if that will change anything.
 
Sounds like quite a few laws broken here. I'm assuming the following:

1. The check was mailed in a letter with your name on it. Meaning they opened up mail addressed to you. I believe this is a felony at minimum a misdemeanor.

2. They can't hold a check not in their name. It belongs to you, basically they are stealing.

Maybe call the people who are giving you the money? I mean just a polite, hey could you help me with this or see if they can't call the school and see if that will change anything.
1. So the check was originally mailed to the DVM who nominated me for the award. I don't know why they did that (especially since they sent me an email asking for my address so they could mail it to me), but it is what it is. She works for the University, and so she forwarded the packet along to the College of Vet Med, who sent me an email to come in and sign it so they could send it to the finance office.
2. The woman kept repeating that the people I'd been in contact with (IE the people giving me the award) were wrong, and that this is the protocol they have to use for student awards. Despite the fact that I have this quote "The check is made out directly to you. You can cash it and use the money for whatever you want. It’s not a scholarship granted to your institution for you. It’s a check made out to you, so you can do whatever you need with the $" directly from the peeps who gave it to me. I think if I had pushed harder they would have handed it over, but she kept saying this was the protocol and this is how they have to manage student awards blah blah.

Honestly, I will manage without it. But seriously this is the dumbest thing I've ever had to deal with with the freaking administration. Even dumber than them forgetting to charge me tuition last year and just dropping my entire student loan amount into my bank account.
 
I get an award that includes a check made out to me, a cash sum that is intended to be used by me however I see fit (per their own rep and letter etc specifically stating it is not necessarily a scholarship that needs to be used for tuition).

Now, the last scholarship I received earlier this year I did submit to the school because it was designated for that. The school then used the funds and retroactively applied it to this and last semester's tuition. Fine, I guess, but I ended up only getting about half of the money because the other half pushed me over the amount they calculate for cost of attendance and so they just applied it to my loans. Again, fine, not a huge deal.

This time though, I want this money. I already earmarked it for moving expenses for my summer internship thingy, which falls perfectly in line with what the award is for (ASLAP award, using money to help fund an ASLAP fellowship, = makes perfect sense).

Unfortunately, they mailed the check and award to the DVM who nominated me, who then forwarded it to the school because she didn't have my address. So the school has it, and wants me to come in and sign the back so they can submit it to the office of student finance. I explain that I want to just keep it, because its for me, and THEY WON'T LET ME. They essentially just decided that it's a scholarship, even though I showed them the email and the letter stating that it specifically ISN'T.

After hours of emailing back and forth and actually going in to talk to the woman who has it, I give up. The best I could do was ensure they apply it to next semester's tuition so hopefully I'll actually get that money back eventually.

BLARG.

That is REALLY weird...when I got my ASLAP award, they emailed me the check (admittedly, I nominated myself, so maybe that's what it's about?)

Can you go to the dean?
 
1. So the check was originally mailed to the DVM who nominated me for the award. I don't know why they did that (especially since they sent me an email asking for my address so they could mail it to me), but it is what it is. She works for the University, and so she forwarded the packet along to the College of Vet Med, who sent me an email to come in and sign it so they could send it to the finance office.
2. The woman kept repeating that the people I'd been in contact with (IE the people giving me the award) were wrong, and that this is the protocol they have to use for student awards. Despite the fact that I have this quote "The check is made out directly to you. You can cash it and use the money for whatever you want. It’s not a scholarship granted to your institution for you. It’s a check made out to you, so you can do whatever you need with the $" directly from the peeps who gave it to me. I think if I had pushed harder they would have handed it over, but she kept saying this was the protocol and this is how they have to manage student awards blah blah.

Honestly, I will manage without it. But seriously this is the dumbest thing I've ever had to deal with with the freaking administration. Even dumber than them forgetting to charge me tuition last year and just dropping my entire student loan amount into my bank account.

I'd still fight it. Mainly because I effing hate financial aid offices. They suck at all schools. And because what they are doing is illegal, if someone doesn't put a foot down they'll keep doing it. For me, I need all money up to COA, so if they applied that in a way I wasn't expecting I'd be screwed on travel expenses or whatever else I decided to use it for. I'm glad you'll be ok but that type of stuff really pisses me off.
 
That is REALLY weird...when I got my ASLAP award, they emailed me the check (admittedly, I nominated myself, so maybe that's what it's about?)

Can you go to the dean?
Right?? I don't know why they mailed it to her, especially because like I said they emailed me asking for my personal address... but whatever, that's water under the bridge now. I could definitely fight it more and lodge complaints or what have you, but after stressing about this for the past few hours now I'm just going to be done with it.

I'm definitely pissed off about it and if I didn't have money coming in still with my part time jobs I'd definitely have fought them on it harder, but I just don't need another stressful thing to deal with right now, and I came pretty close to yelling at the woman already when I stormed into her office. Looking at the email threads I have is making my head hurt with the stupidity. Like, just give me my money and we're all good.

But I can't deal with them anymore right now, so hopefully next fall I'll have a happy little surprise with extra $$ when they deposit my funds.
 
Right?? I don't know why they mailed it to her, especially because like I said they emailed me asking for my personal address... but whatever, that's water under the bridge now. I could definitely fight it more and lodge complaints or what have you, but after stressing about this for the past few hours now I'm just going to be done with it.

I'm definitely pissed off about it and if I didn't have money coming in still with my part time jobs I'd definitely have fought them on it harder, but I just don't need another stressful thing to deal with right now, and I came pretty close to yelling at the woman already when I stormed into her office. Looking at the email threads I have is making my head hurt with the stupidity. Like, just give me my money and we're all good.

But I can't deal with them anymore right now, so hopefully next fall I'll have a happy little surprise with extra $$ when they deposit my funds.

Yeah, I get it. Sometimes certain things are just better to let go. Sorry they are being doofuses.
 
Because it stems from my rant: How many of you (especially those in practice) find yourselves being 'accused' of making tons of money as a veterinarian? Coming from the group of us here who are all very aware that we're not going to be millionaires, having to deal with a client screaming at me because my boss is using him as a way to pay off her mansion (lol) took me by surprise.

No, she doesn't make $500 an hour. No, she has not selected you to be her cash cow.
 
@pinkpuppy9 What is bothers me even more is that my own mother is insisting I'm going to make a ton of money when (if) I graduate..(this comes up when I express my concerns about the amount of loans I will have when I graduate)... it's one thing when a clueless client accuses a vet of being money hungry... but then it makes me more irritated when a person who should understand a little better (my mother) is semi delusional... it gives me little hope that attitudes will change anytime soon regarding the "money hungry veterinarian".
 
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@pinkpuppy9 What is bothers me even more is that my own mother is insisting I'm going to make a ton of money when (if) I graduate..(this comes up when I express my concerns about the amount of loans I will have when I graduate)... it's one thing when a clueless client accuses a vet of being money hungry... but then it makes me more irritated when a person who should understand a little better (my mother) is semi delusional... it gives me a little hope that attitudes will change anytime soon regarding the "money hungry veterinarian".
I don't think my parents even really know the salary window I'll likely be in, but now that things are snowballing, they see that I'm under a lot of stress with the loans. Side rant: My finaid package is ready to be viewed....but I can't access it because Illinois hasn't sent me my login credentials yet...
 
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