Baptism by fire! Ngl this is pure career/resume/CV candy and something you can talk about in future interviews for better jobs. 👍What an... interesting... time to start my new job in public health. I'll just leave it at that. Today has been insane.
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My cats just ripped through their food bin, bit the lid off the greenies treats (like, tooth marks in the plastic and half of it ripped off), and ate enough to almost make themselves sick 

I should clarify that they had THREE dinners tonight already.
THREE
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I should clarify that they had THREE dinners tonight already.
THREE
Well, that's not FOUR. You monster.
Cheese approvesMy cats just ripped through their food bin, bit the lid off the greenies treats (like, tooth marks in the plastic and half of it ripped off), and ate enough to almost make themselves sick![]()
I was just contacted by our surgery department asking if the student surgery club had any non-expired gowns or gloves because there's a shortage 
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Yeah we got an email from our central supply requesting that the surgery departments try to use the reusable gowns more for nowI was just contacted by our surgery department asking if the student surgery club had any non-expired gowns or gloves because there's a shortage![]()
But I'm wondering why? Are we somehow using more because of coronavirus? Are they making less? What is happening?Yeah we got an email from our central supply requesting that the surgery departments try to use the reusable gowns more for now
But I'm wondering why? Are we somehow using more because of coronavirus? Are they making less? What is happening?
Supply stockpiling by the public, usually
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Apparently we have two suspected/possible cases in the county with very recent travel history to South Korea who are symptomatic, and they'd be the first confirmed cases in the state if they come back positive. So, yeah... it'll be interesting to see what happens with that. We're just thankful that we finally got a handful of test kits yesterday. Most likely just influenza, but it’s got us worried.Baptism by fire! Ngl this is pure career/resume/CV candy and something you can talk about in future interviews for better jobs. 👍
But, yes, baptism by fire. It's definitely been a learning experience.
How though? I don't even understand how the public would have access to surgical gowns???Supply stockpiling by the public, usually![]()
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A lot of things are manufactured in China, so it's a dual issue of those products being kept in the country as they are needed there, and also that some of the manufacturing plants as well as export routes have been shut downBut I'm wondering why? Are we somehow using more because of coronavirus? Are they making less? What is happening?
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This was from Medline about 2 weeks ago:
Coronal Virus Weekly update to our Customers and our Sales Team,
Below is a note on how we see the current situation as it relates to the Coronavirus and what we are doing about it.
As you all have seen in the news Wuhan Coronavirus is spreading quickly with confirmed cases continuing to rise. Here are the important facts related to this outbreak.
1. The Chinese government is prioritizing facemasks and PPE production for the domestic China market, and hence, we expect a reduction in capacity and/or delayed shipments from our factories.
2. The province in China where a large percentage of PPE is manufactured (for the entire industry) is Hubei Province, the same origin as the Coronavirus. The Hubei Province government recently extended mandatory factory closure through March 10, 2020. (A large percentage of traditional Wound Care production also originates in this province.) Highways, public transport, rail, river and air travel have all been restricted to emergency medical teams only. As a result of this, further delays in getting products from Hubei Province are expected.
3. The Chinese government extended the Chinese New Year holidays causing production workers to return to work later than planned. To date they are still not nearly fully staffed. This will have an impact on multiple product categories.
4. This sort of action is unprecedented, and we have no accurate data as to when the restrictions will be lifted.
5. Categories impacted by the current situation in China are listed below:
a. Facemasks – Surgical and Isolation
b. PPE – Isolation Gowns and Coveralls
c. Traditional Wound Care
d. Surgical Drapes and Gowns
e. Components for Standard and Custom Packs
As numerous efforts are being taken within China to prevent further spread of the virus, we are beginning to see a real impact on manufacturing operations for facemasks and other PPE products within that country. As such, we will see a reduction in capacity and/or delayed shipments for facemasks and other PPE throughout the industry for the foreseeable future. Our top priority is to ensure our current customers domestically have the essential supplies they need to protect both patients and staff. Medline has multiple production locations for the items impacted in our global supply chain and has ramped up production in all areas possible, while diligently monitoring the situation in China. This is an extremely challenging time in healthcare. Medline will continue to monitor the situation both locally and on the ground at our supply locations to effectively manage inventory. We are doing all we can to support our current customers to limit and/or reduce supply interruptions. Our commitment to you and our customers is regular, transparent communication, and as always we will make sure we are conservative in our approach and under promise and over deliver
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Reminds me of when the new TN state wildlife vet started and the first positive CWD test in the state popped up like a month laterApparently we have two suspected/possible cases in the county with very recent travel history to South Korea who are symptomatic, and they'd be the first confirmed cases in the state if they come back positive. So, yeah... it'll be interesting to see what happens with that. We're just thankful that we finally got a handful of test kits yesterday. Most likely just influenza, but it’s got us worried.
But, yes, baptism by fire. It's definitely been a learning experience.
We're having the same issue here, especially with surgical masksI was just contacted by our surgery department asking if the student surgery club had any non-expired gowns or gloves because there's a shortage![]()
I don't really get the stigma over sharing notes. Note taking is a talent. In my case, my friends are good at it, and I suck at it.
It doesn't mean I didn't try -- it means I tried and ended up with 3 pages of illegible scribbles, unfinished sentences, and a lot of "{FILL IN LATER}" shorthand, while they ended up with color-coded masterpieces that could probably be published now and later framed and gifted to the Smithsonian as paragons of 21st century scientific art
Is there a stigma? My friend group is really good about sharing notes and offering notes when we know someone has missed a lecture. Seems silly not to help each other out.
Try getting a surgical mask. I know some vets who are starting to make reusable cloth ones to get ahead and make some money on the side.
Looks like I found a weekend project! Are they just making them out of cotton/polyester?Try getting a surgical mask. I know some vets who are starting to make reusable cloth ones to get ahead and make some money on the side.
Soooooo they put my roommate on self quarantine (not here thankfully) because she just came back from an outbreak area. But this is after we had a giant fight about her not coming back to the house because my other roommate and I thought she should self-quarantine. Spoiler alert she didn't until forced to. *Sigh* she's a public health person too, she should understand this. If she won't comply why the hell should we think the public will? I'm so annoyed.
Soooooo they put my roommate on self quarantine (not here thankfully) because she just came back from an outbreak area. But this is after we had a giant fight about her not coming back to the house because my other roommate and I thought she should self-quarantine. Spoiler alert she didn't until forced to. *Sigh* she's a public health person too, she should understand this. If she won't comply why the hell should we think the public will? I'm so annoyed.
If she came back from an active outbreak area, that's so annoying. Common sense.
That said, I have a Europe trip planned for May and come back 2 days before I'm supposed to walk the stage. If I have to cancel my trip or end up having to miss grad by self quarantining I'm gonna be so mad.
If I have to cancel my spring break trip in two weeks I will also be incredibly mad.If she came back from an active outbreak area, that's so annoying. Common sense.
That said, I have a Europe trip planned for May and come back 2 days before I'm supposed to walk the stage. If I have to cancel my trip or end up having to miss grad by self quarantining I'm gonna be so mad.
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Already bummed enough from SAVMA being cancelled. I don't have any more trips planned until July so hopefully things will be chill by then...
Already bummed enough from SAVMA being cancelled. I don't have any more trips planned until July so hopefully things will be chill by then...
That's my hope for May but it's not looking good...
London and Greece might be okay. The last 3 nights in Rome though...
My cats just ripped through their food bin, bit the lid off the greenies treats (like, tooth marks in the plastic and half of it ripped off), and ate enough to almost make themselves sick![]()
Turns out this was a warning sign... I came home today to find the cloth cabinet-thing holding all their food bags and toys turned upside down, with all the contents dragged out.I should clarify that they had THREE dinners tonight already.
THREE
They chewed completely through the plastic/aluminum kibble bags.
I fed them a huge breakfast this morning -- they get wet food twice a day and free choice dry food so there was really no reason for this level of drama.
Here we’re rationing masks, caps, and booties for surgery. You’re allowed 1 set per day unless they get contaminated to try and save what we do have so we don’t run out
I have a lot of thoughts about the coronavirus stuff because things got cray cray around here today, but I'm going to keep them to myself for now to try to contain the drama lol. I will simply say that I sympathize with you all and hope everyone stays safe.
Fun fact: according to my sister, the major hospital where she works has their respirator masks locked up as of today.
Fun fact: according to my sister, the major hospital where she works has their respirator masks locked up as of today.
I have a trip to Japan March 27th that I’ve been looking forward to for two years. It’s pretty much kaputIf she came back from an active outbreak area, that's so annoying. Common sense.
That said, I have a Europe trip planned for May and come back 2 days before I'm supposed to walk the stage. If I have to cancel my trip or end up having to miss grad by self quarantining I'm gonna be so mad.
Stigma? Huh?? We have a google drive shared between the class and people are always posting their notes to it so everyone can benefit. My class is really good about helping each other out in general though.I don't really get the stigma over sharing notes. Note taking is a talent. In my case, my friends are good at it, and I suck at it.
It doesn't mean I didn't try -- it means I tried and ended up with 3 pages of illegible scribbles, unfinished sentences, and a lot of "{FILL IN LATER}" shorthand, while they ended up with color-coded masterpieces that could probably be published now and later framed and gifted to the Smithsonian as paragons of 21st century scientific art
Looks like I found a weekend project! Are they just making them out of cotton/polyester?
Are you on the fb group Vetsy? It’s a vet-only group where vets post their side hustle crafts. That’s where I saw them. I do leatherwork not fabrics so I don’t have any idea what they’re made of.
(Sorry vet students and pre-vetties, you’ll have to graduate before you can join.)
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Did you say that’s where you seen them?
I'm going to NYC early April and just see it as a good test of my immune system, right?
I have literally the worst luck when it comes to concerts/events being cancelled on me and am very suspicious it's gonna happen again but oh well still NYC even if so! (cries internally)
I have literally the worst luck when it comes to concerts/events being cancelled on me and am very suspicious it's gonna happen again but oh well still NYC even if so! (cries internally)
Did you say that’s where you seen them?
It said “I don’t have no idea”. Which isn’t really something I’d typically say anyway so maybe a typo but who knows.
I have the weirdest clients, and I feel like the weirdest of the weird are all coming to see me this week. My shoulders are getting sore from shrugging it all off.
March 9th is gonna be terrible tho. Mercury is still retrograde until almost 9 pm AND THERE IS A FULL MOON.
Y I K E SSo I looked it up, and the full moon on March 9th is called the "Worm Moon". I know what's coming!!!![]()
I radiographed a dog’s stifle this morning and while laying in lateral she shot 3 giant solid turds 2 feet across the rad table onto my lead apron. She appeared to be worm-free!
Are you on the fb group Vetsy? It’s a vet-only group where vets post their side hustle crafts. That’s where I saw them. I do leatherwork not fabrics so I don’t have any idea what they’re made of.
(Sorry vet students and pre-vetties, you’ll have to graduate before you can join.)
Edited to remove a typo that made me sound like the redneck I am.
Man this post was a rollercoaster of excitement followed by disappointment.
At least I only have to wait 3 months to join? Haha
I gotta wait TWO YEARSMan this post was a rollercoaster of excitement followed by disappointment.
At least I only have to wait 3 months to join? Haha
I gotta wait…uh…hold on…I gotta wait TWO YEARS![]()

It's been a long time since I've been on SDN, but I figured this might be a good place for some advice maybe.
So I have a classmate who I'm friends with. We both have the same career path in mind so that bonded us. During first and second year we didn't spend that much time together at school because we were in different halves of the class. Little things she would do would kind of annoy me, but it wasn't a big deal because I was able to get a lot of space. Though, now we are in the same track for third year and I see her ALL THE TIME. We have class together every day, eat lunch together every day (because she follows me no matter where I go), and she was also in my surgery team for all of our spays and neuters (though thankfully those are done with). It's been really hard to get space because there are only 6 of us in our track. I go home with every opportunity for lunch I get, but that isn't always doable. Do you guys ever have someone that just literally everything they do grates on your nerves? Just everything about her personality makes me want to scream right now and I really feel terrible about it.
Another problem to mention is the fact that she speaks for me when faculty ask about our career path and has said in public conversation "oh we are basically the same person". NO WE ARE NOT. We don't even want to do the same things within our general career path. She also assumes that we are going to be partners for every lab. I had to talk to her that it would be good to work with other people for our track surgeries so at least I was able to get that separation. I've talked to some friends about it and our school mental health counselor and we've all come to the same conclusion that I need to talk to her. I've been pulling away, but it seems to make her hold on even tighter. We also currently have 3 rotations scheduled together for 4th year - one of which is for 4 weeks and will be living in the same building (kind of like an externship but through our school). I'd reschedule that one, but really like the rest of my schedule and don't want to mess it up. While in a normal situation I might be more willing to cut ties, but I realize that she has been a really good friend to me otherwise and we may also encounter each other professionally in the future. Does anyone have any advice on how I can talk to her about this in a way that at least preserves our professional relationship? If I don't talk to her and don't get some space soon, I'm pretty sure I'm going to eventually explode at her which would not be good.
So I have a classmate who I'm friends with. We both have the same career path in mind so that bonded us. During first and second year we didn't spend that much time together at school because we were in different halves of the class. Little things she would do would kind of annoy me, but it wasn't a big deal because I was able to get a lot of space. Though, now we are in the same track for third year and I see her ALL THE TIME. We have class together every day, eat lunch together every day (because she follows me no matter where I go), and she was also in my surgery team for all of our spays and neuters (though thankfully those are done with). It's been really hard to get space because there are only 6 of us in our track. I go home with every opportunity for lunch I get, but that isn't always doable. Do you guys ever have someone that just literally everything they do grates on your nerves? Just everything about her personality makes me want to scream right now and I really feel terrible about it.
Another problem to mention is the fact that she speaks for me when faculty ask about our career path and has said in public conversation "oh we are basically the same person". NO WE ARE NOT. We don't even want to do the same things within our general career path. She also assumes that we are going to be partners for every lab. I had to talk to her that it would be good to work with other people for our track surgeries so at least I was able to get that separation. I've talked to some friends about it and our school mental health counselor and we've all come to the same conclusion that I need to talk to her. I've been pulling away, but it seems to make her hold on even tighter. We also currently have 3 rotations scheduled together for 4th year - one of which is for 4 weeks and will be living in the same building (kind of like an externship but through our school). I'd reschedule that one, but really like the rest of my schedule and don't want to mess it up. While in a normal situation I might be more willing to cut ties, but I realize that she has been a really good friend to me otherwise and we may also encounter each other professionally in the future. Does anyone have any advice on how I can talk to her about this in a way that at least preserves our professional relationship? If I don't talk to her and don't get some space soon, I'm pretty sure I'm going to eventually explode at her which would not be good.
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When it comes to this type of stuff I find it best to be as direct as possible. Directness is not always received that well (especially now that I'm in the midwest as opposed to the northeast..), but there are always decent ways to word things to soften the blow. I might tell her almost exactly what you're telling us here. Be sure to highlight the positive "you've been a really good friend to me and I appreciate how much we have in common," etc. and then tell her while those things are true, just for your own personal reasons you'd appreciate some space. Definitely try to have this conversation in person, as it can be hard to discern tone over text/email/whatever. Perhaps add that it's nothing she's done wrong, you'd just like some professional distance. Be prepared for her not to take it very well, as it seems like she might be that kind of person. If that happens, just give it time and hope she'll come to her senses. If not, oh well. As long as you gave it your best shot to be friendly but direct and professional, there's not much else you can do.
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I came on here though to say GUESS WHO'S MISSING AGAIN! I brought her to the dog park in my complex, she found the first available hole in the fence, and left. I don't even know how she finds these escape routes. I went after her for a bit, but she gets tunnel vision/hearing when she's on the run and just goes.
apparently I never posted this but the draft saved. she's home. ran across a major road, but we're safe.
Sounds like she wants to hit that.Rant
Sounds like she wants to hit that.
My roommate said the same thing. I personally don’t think that’s the case. She’s just really socially awkward and I think has a hard time making actual friends even though she says hi to LITERALLY EVERYONE WE WALK BY in our class (another thing that’s been irking me) or will even yell to get their attention if they are too far away. I’m hoping to talk to her this week, but I’m really non-confrontational so it’s gonna be hard to start the conversation
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I can't help but wonder, I think I know who this is, but maybe not. I can't offer any sage advice except if you need someone to talk to I'm here. These things can be so rough and I sympathize strongly.Things
You probably do [emoji854] thank you so much. It’s difficult because I don’t want to hurt her feelings, but I really need her to let me be my own person. I already know people lump us together in conversation and I just don’t do well when people glom onto me
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Hey maybe explain it that way, it's not her you just need to be your own person? I hope she understands *hugs*Other things
Me too! Thank you! <3Hey maybe explain it that way, it's not her you just need to be your own person? I hope she understands *hugs*
@Momokeen do you have any joint friends who you can ask for help with pulling her away?
I have been in her shoes before and it is really anxiety-inducing to feel like you're being abandoned by your partner-in-crime, especially for things like labs where people tend to stay in defined groups. When my best friend started ditching me, it was a horrible feeling to walk into a lab/group work situation to find that there wasn't even a chair for me anymore 🙁
BUT -- if other people had been proactive about including me, I would have felt a LOT less clingy. (This did eventually happen, in part because our lab groups got switched up so that my other friends were added to the mix of possible partner options, hallelujah).
Could you get some of your joint friends to step up and offer to pair up with her?
I would also say DO NOT ghost. It is incredibly confusing to feel less engagement from someone who's always been there for you & not understand why it's happening. In my case, it made me actually feel like I was going insane for a while (and it probably came across that way, too, unfortunately).
If you need an explanation, come up with something beyond "I need space," because that doesn't tell them anything they don't already know from how you've been slowly pulling away, and it can make things so much worse.
For example... tell her you're changing your career focus and are nervous you've pigeonholed too much, so you really feel the need to network with more people before you leave school. Or take the personal route -- find someone you want to date and ask for your friend's help on looking available (kind of like the opposite of a wingman). Or tell her that you are feeling like you get jointly excluded from things because you are so close that people see you as a package deal, and while you appreciate that you have each other's backs, you want both of you to have the opportunity to make more friends while there is still time to do that in vet school.
Something -- anything -- other than silent avoidance or rejection without any tangible reason.
Lastly... if you end up getting the space you need, try to toss her a bone on occasion by purposefully including her. Doesn't have to be all the time, but it can go a long, long way in helping her feel acknowledged and will likely cut down on the static cling even more.
I have been in her shoes before and it is really anxiety-inducing to feel like you're being abandoned by your partner-in-crime, especially for things like labs where people tend to stay in defined groups. When my best friend started ditching me, it was a horrible feeling to walk into a lab/group work situation to find that there wasn't even a chair for me anymore 🙁
BUT -- if other people had been proactive about including me, I would have felt a LOT less clingy. (This did eventually happen, in part because our lab groups got switched up so that my other friends were added to the mix of possible partner options, hallelujah).
Could you get some of your joint friends to step up and offer to pair up with her?
I would also say DO NOT ghost. It is incredibly confusing to feel less engagement from someone who's always been there for you & not understand why it's happening. In my case, it made me actually feel like I was going insane for a while (and it probably came across that way, too, unfortunately).
If you need an explanation, come up with something beyond "I need space," because that doesn't tell them anything they don't already know from how you've been slowly pulling away, and it can make things so much worse.
For example... tell her you're changing your career focus and are nervous you've pigeonholed too much, so you really feel the need to network with more people before you leave school. Or take the personal route -- find someone you want to date and ask for your friend's help on looking available (kind of like the opposite of a wingman). Or tell her that you are feeling like you get jointly excluded from things because you are so close that people see you as a package deal, and while you appreciate that you have each other's backs, you want both of you to have the opportunity to make more friends while there is still time to do that in vet school.
Something -- anything -- other than silent avoidance or rejection without any tangible reason.
Lastly... if you end up getting the space you need, try to toss her a bone on occasion by purposefully including her. Doesn't have to be all the time, but it can go a long, long way in helping her feel acknowledged and will likely cut down on the static cling even more.
Thank you for sharing your experience @PippyPony! We definitely have mutual friends, but the problem is that they are all small animal track and we are livestock track. So we all have different schedules and people are not always at lunch, etc. As for stuff during labs, there are only 6 of us in our track so no one is ever left without a partner and everyone is great to work with. I understand your point, but I feel like I'm so close to the boiling point that its hard for me to be around her at all. And it's really hard for me to make an excuse about being at lunch alone if there are other friends I want to eat with, she just invites herself. Like one of my other classmates and I arranged to take our dogs to our arboretum at lunch one day and she overheard me telling someone else and she said "OH I think I'll join you!!" I also can't really say I'm doing a different career path because we are both doing a track for that career path 4th year and doing an externship for it and I'm planning on doing a PhD related to it out of vet school, so I'm pretty locked in 🙂. It's really hard when someone is SO overbearing. Like I will not go to social events outside school because I know she will be there and it makes me not want to eat lunch with people if I know she's going to be there. I really do understand your point though and thank you for helping me to see it possibly from her side. I really don't want to hurt her, but I think I'm at the point of self preservation right now and I'm really trying to pull out of that mindset. But it's hard...[Stuff