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Veterinary Science Graduate Programs from U. of I.
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cowgirla said:
I have a couple extra n95s if you want one. A great client gave me some at the beginning of all this since she was horrified that I didn't have a mask to wear in exam rooms. I probably can't mail until Friday/Saturday but I'm just a little north of Frederick if you want to pick one up off my doorstep.
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Someone is sending me a mask but thank you! 🙂
 
vetmedhead said:
How much was it? I am always down to run spontaneous weddings and this fits with my career goals
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My brother in law is a pretty "good" Catholic, and he graciously married me and my husband after getting ordained online. But the thing is... getting ordained in another faith is technically considered a formal renouncement of the Catholic Church.

So he likes to say it cost him 20 minutes and his immortal soul. 😉

YMMV
 
I have a new-ish food allergy. Which has become a mild anaphylaxis. And which is apparently in EVERYTHING. I need all the drugs close by every time I eat now. 🙁 Thankfully I haven't got to the point where I needed the shiny new epi pen, but the antihistamine and bronchodilator cocktail is getting A LOT of use!
 
My best friend is in the hospital for appendicitis 🙁 what an absolutely terrible time for emergency surgery 🙁 and she’s all alone because they won’t let anyone over 18 bring a guest so I can’t even imagine how awful it must be
 
I have epilepsy and my brain will manufacture the not-real smell of smoke when I am having a focal seizure. I am really glad my mom was home and paying attention today. I woke up just a tad from a nap, smelled smoke, and went back to sleep because that smell has never been real. Yeah, there was a real fire in the kitchen being caused by a banana bread misadventure and evidently our smoke alarm needs new batteries...
 
RespectTheChemistry19 said:
I have epilepsy and my brain will manufacture the not-real smell of smoke when I am having a focal seizure. I am really glad my mom was home and paying attention today. I woke up just a tad from a nap, smelled smoke, and went back to sleep because that smell has never been real. Yeah, there was a real fire in the kitchen being caused by a banana bread misadventure and evidently our smoke alarm needs new batteries...
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Was anything damaged?
 
RespectTheChemistry19 said:
I have epilepsy and my brain will manufacture the not-real smell of smoke when I am having a focal seizure. I am really glad my mom was home and paying attention today. I woke up just a tad from a nap, smelled smoke, and went back to sleep because that smell has never been real. Yeah, there was a real fire in the kitchen being caused by a banana bread misadventure and evidently our smoke alarm needs new batteries...
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Is that the only smell you experience when you have a focal seizure?
 
Minnerbelle said:
Is that the only smell you experience when you have a focal seizure?
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I also get some rotten egg smell sometimes but mostly smoke. I woke up a teensy bit, smelled smoke, dismissed it as "Did I take my seizure meds this morning?" and dozed right back off.
 
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RespectTheChemistry19 said:
I also get some rotten egg smell sometimes but mostly smoke. I woke up a teensy bit, smelled smoke, dismissed it as "Did I take my seizure meds this morning?" and dozed right back off.
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I smell smoke all the time that's not there apparently, but I don't think I've knowingly had a seizure. I'm glad you're safe RTC from the actual fire. Wow.
 
RespectTheChemistry19 said:
My pets are infinitely worth it, but the amount of cat and dog hair that accumulates in this house in three days in the spring would make people think I have never cleaned.
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My dog's hair looks like snowdrifts on the stairs after three days!
 
RespectTheChemistry19 said:
My pets are infinitely worth it, but the amount of cat and dog hair that accumulates in this house in three days in the spring would make people think I have never cleaned.
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having a dog that never sheds is a beautiful thing...my cats on the other hands make up for her quite nicely.
 
Them: "We're gonna give you this contrast agent so we can make this echo clearer if you're okay with that."
Me: "What are the risks and side effects?"
Them: "Usually none. Sometimes a backache."
Me: "Sounds legit. I'm okay with this."
My body: *violently rejects this*

Yeah, so that was unpleasant. I love being the rare person that reacts badly to something.
 
In Seattle, we never really saw outdoor dogs. In Pullman, there are a lot more, but I don't really understand the point..? From someone who has an outdoor dog, what is the purpose of having one?
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
In Seattle, we never really saw outdoor dogs. In Pullman, there are a lot more, but I don't really understand the point..? From someone who has an outdoor dog, what is the purpose of having one?
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For my SD, NE friends, they're working animals. Herding (mostly cattle), protection of the herd and the people on the land. Pest control. When not working, they get free range of the land. Some of the smartest dogs I've ever seen.
 
batsenecal said:
For my SD, NE friends, they're working animals. Herding (mostly cattle), protection of the herd and the people on the land. Pest control. When not working, they get free range of the land. Some of the smartest dogs I've ever seen.
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But how about the ones that live in backyards, not farms?
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
In Seattle, we never really saw outdoor dogs. In Pullman, there are a lot more, but I don't really understand the point..? From someone who has an outdoor dog, what is the purpose of having one?
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For my parents, it was partly about hair control, actually. And living in a rural area, it was also a warning system if someone pulled up the driveway. You also don't have to let them out on a lunch break (and can't when you commute a long distance). And if you have a big yard/property, it leaves more room for them to play/ find enrichment/move around. Ours always came in the garage at night in the winter, and got to come inside for treats on holidays, but during the day they were outside. We also have livestock guardians that live outside 24/7 with the flock (except when neighbors shoot off fireworks).
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
In Seattle, we never really saw outdoor dogs. In Pullman, there are a lot more, but I don't really understand the point..? From someone who has an outdoor dog, what is the purpose of having one?
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For me, she’s a farm dog, we don’t have cattle or any other animals like that. She’s for protection/guarding the place and keeping away unwanted animals. She’ll go nuts barking when someone pulls in, then goes up to them when they get out of the vehicle and is like ‘give me all the pets!’ She also helps keep down the rodent population and every once in a while catches some rabbits. She’s a great supervisor too, when working out in the machine shop 🤣
 
Not to start a shtstorm, but I don’t personally think the arguments for an outdoor dog are strong in the present day. Working dogs excluded obviously.

(I’m not saying you’re a terrible person to have one as long as their needs are met so please don’t read it that way. I just don’t think the functions they serve are best met by having a dog living outside exclusively. I also think there can be increased welfare concerns regarding their health.)
 
My friend converted her outdoor-only dog to an indoor dog when she moved to vet school. Parents didn't let the dog in the house; friend was like "that's enough of that nonsense, come with me dog"; dog was perfectly well-behaved and magically house-trained within a day or two of moving inside. It's amazing how quickly some animals adapt to a new living situation.

(He was a herding breed but not a working dog -- they lived in the suburbs in a warm climate. He did actually kiss the first cow he met, though. Super cute.)
 
CoffeeQuestionMark said:
But how about the ones that live in backyards, not farms?
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Those are much more or a grey area for me. If they're just living outside without a purpose, that's far more of a welfare concern for me. However, it would have to be a case by case basis for me. There are plenty of indoor dogs with worse welfare than outdoor dogs.

that redhead said:
I also think there can be increased welfare concerns regarding their health.
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At the 2017 AWJAC, this point was brought up when we were comparing an english bulldog living in an apartment with tremendously great owners, to a great pyrenees living as an outdoor dog (not as a working dog). The pyrenees lost. The point was that the care was poor in comparison.
 
that redhead said:
Not to start a shtstorm, but I don’t personally think the arguments for an outdoor dog are strong in the present day. Working dogs excluded obviously.

(I’m not saying you’re a terrible person to have one as long as their needs are met so please don’t read it that way. I just don’t think the functions they serve are best met by having a dog living outside exclusively. I also think there can be increased welfare concerns regarding their health.)
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And I agree with you for the most part, but I've seen some dogs kept "outside" in rural areas where it seems they have a pretty sweet life. Usually it's where people are outside as much as the pets; I'm definitely judgy of the pets tethered outside alone in the 'burbs thing.
Also have seen pets owned by homeless people living in a temperate climate who honestly seemed to be better cared for overall than a couple of the pets we saw in a bougie clinic where I did some shadowing.

Tangent -- for pre-vets who are trying to gain some more experience, try to seek out volunteer opportunities with organizations who run free/low-cost vaccine & wellness clinics. I assume a lot of them aren't running right now, but given the current economic situation... 🙁 I volunteered at some before vet school and it was a great experience. Related to this conversation, I had some preconceived notions of attitudes towards homeless pet ownership and the standard of care that were just... really wrong and unfair. For one thing, I've never seen so many new clients show up to a clinic with full folders of complete, organized pet medical records in my life lol.
 
PippyPony said:
And I agree with you for the most part, but I've seen some dogs kept "outside" in rural areas where it seems they have a pretty sweet life. Usually it's where people are outside as much as the pets; I'm definitely judgy of the pets tethered outside alone in the 'burbs thing.
Also have seen pets owned by homeless people living in a temperate climate who honestly seemed to be better cared for overall than a couple of the pets we saw in a bougie clinic where I did some shadowing.

Tangent -- for pre-vets who are trying to gain some more experience, try to seek out volunteer opportunities with organizations who run free/low-cost vaccine & wellness clinics. I assume a lot of them aren't running right now, but given the current economic situation... 🙁 I volunteered at some before vet school and it was a great experience. Related to this conversation, I had some preconceived notions of attitudes towards homeless pet ownership and the standard of care that were just... really wrong and unfair. For one thing, I've never seen so many new clients show up to a clinic with full folders of complete, organized pet medical records in my life lol.
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I've loved every homeless/low income targeted clinic I've ever helped at. Generally very dedicated owners (some of whom walked for hours to get there because they couldn't bring their pets on public transport!) and very grateful for the services. Plus it's a great opportunity to practice physical exams and basic diagnostics.

My family had to use some of those services ourselves during a difficult time and it was so nice to not be told repeatedly how we were horrible pet owners who shouldn't have gotten animals we couldn't afford (we got them when we could afford them, by the way 🙁 ) and just general refusals to acknowledge our pets as important members of the family to us. When we were near homeless my pets were so integral to my emotional well-being in a way that they have never been again when we got more financially stable, and everything we could spare went to their care first.
 
PippyPony said:
And I agree with you for the most part, but I've seen some dogs kept "outside" in rural areas where it seems they have a pretty sweet life. Usually it's where people are outside as much as the pets; I'm definitely judgy of the pets tethered outside alone in the 'burbs thing.
Also have seen pets owned by homeless people living in a temperate climate who honestly seemed to be better cared for overall than a couple of the pets we saw in a bougie clinic where I did some shadowing.
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Poorly cared for house dogs is the common rebuttal and I agree there are animals that are actually severely neglected in terms of health owned by people who think they’re giving their pet the best life ever. But that doesn’t negate the argument against outdoor dogs and their unique health challenges. And there is a difference between dogs outside a lot with an outdoorsy owner and a dog living outside exclusively.

I don’t doubt that there are living situations that the dogs are happy with. Just like I don’t doubt that chocolate and rat poison and rocks taste delicious when a dog eats them :shrug: Thst doesn’t always mean it’s in the best interest of the dog. While a dog roaming acres of lush green pastures is picturesque and makes us feel better about them only being outside, it doesn’t mean that it’s in their best interest, even if they enjoy it. (Getting in to what’s best for them versus what makes them happy is another more in-depth argument but at least somewhat related.)

My argument is simply that I don’t see the purpose or need for a strictly outdoor dog (aside from working dogs) when we have other ways to fill the same rolls they purportedly serve.
 
JaynaAli said:
...my puppy may have chewed up a phone cord I forgot to pick up today. Oops.
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Last time i shadowed in ES a dog came in who had eaten a phone charger. induced emesis and had to piece it together to make sure it was all out. fun times.
 
JaynaAli said:
...my puppy may have chewed up a phone cord I forgot to pick up today. Oops.
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my ****ing cat chewed up and swallowed the tie of my pandemic masks. Had to guesstimate the length ingested and do a little mental visualization of what might happen if it got a little stuck in the stomach, and had to shrug and say... “well, i don’t *think* that’s enough to cause a linear FB...” It’s been 24 hrs and he seems to be good... damn cat
 
Minnerbelle said:
my ****ing cat chewed up and swallowed the tie of my pandemic masks. Had to guesstimate the length ingested and do a little mental visualization of what might happen if it got a little stuck in the stomach, and had to shrug and say... “well, i don’t *think* that’s enough to cause a linear FB...” It’s been 24 hrs and he seems to be good... damn cat
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Same. There’s about 1.5” of a thin green coated wire missing +/- a small amount of string that was wrapped around the cord. From the white outer coating I did recover from his crate, he seemed to chew it up pretty good. He’s acting fine, eating, breathing normal, and seems like himself. The cord was plugged in but I didn’t see any oral lesions like he got shocked and this crate was dry...his bladder control isn’t great so I assume if he got shocked he’d have peed. So we’re taking the monitoring approach for now. Luckily his 30 day pet insurance waiting period is up today so if he were to have an issue we’ll be covered!
 
itsrocky said:
Time to play a game. On and off low grade fever for the past week. Sprinkle in some fatigue. Is that you Rona or is it my old friend Bart(onella)?*

*i never leave the house don’t worry
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I’d assume Rona do you have a testing site you can go to? In philly at least they expanded testing criteria to include anyone with even one symptom of fever, cough, shortness of breath, or loss of taste/smell
 
JaynaAli said:
Same. There’s about 1.5” of a thin green coated wire missing +/- a small amount of string that was wrapped around the cord. From the white outer coating I did recover from his crate, he seemed to chew it up pretty good. He’s acting fine, eating, breathing normal, and seems like himself. The cord was plugged in but I didn’t see any oral lesions like he got shocked and this crate was dry...his bladder control isn’t great so I assume if he got shocked he’d have peed. So we’re taking the monitoring approach for now. Luckily his 30 day pet insurance waiting period is up today so if he were to have an issue we’ll be covered!
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ugh I need to get on that. Did you need a vet visit prior to having them enrolled? Or is it just a 30 day waiting period and no exam needed? Ima go with trupanion since they will let me be my own pets’ vet, but for their same day exam certificates it needs to be done by someone that is not me. I imagine if an exam is needed it needs to be with someone else, and that’s my hang up.
 
my dog has eaten so much stupid stuff in her mere 2 years of life...thankfully she always chews it up really well first 🙄

knock on wood
 
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