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oh pp, i knew i liked you !!

i feel some weird sense of responsibility as someone who made it on the other side to help point people in the correct direction when it comes to information. i have seen so many posts in the last 24 hours bc a specific school sent out rejections and people were shocked and claiming they didnt even want to go, but it was their “safety” school….how do you casually insult someone’s entire institution?? i have my own thoughts and opinions on the weird undertones it gives when someone claims the island schools are “safety” or “not as good as the state side schools” but that’s a different convo.
Hi hello I definitely got into an entire fight on here with someone insulting my school saying they didn’t get past round 1 but it was their safety school and they should’ve been a shoe in and everyone else who did make it past phase 1 who had lower gpa than them didn't deserve it💀 (sorry not sorry mods)
 
Hi hello I definitely got into an entire fight on here with someone insulting my school saying they didn’t get past round 1 but it was their safety school and they should’ve been a shoe in and everyone else who did make it past phase 1 who had lower gpa than them didn't deserve it💀 (sorry not sorry mods)
i remember that !!! yeah you absolutely rightfully called them out
 
i feel some weird sense of responsibility as someone who made it on the other side to help point people in the correct direction when it comes to information.
I think we all kind of feel this, at least I do. That's why I've stuck around. We really don't have a lot of resources out there for pre-vets. I don't think admissions/profession advice should be paid for imo, even though a lot of those types of services/companies have popped up.
 
I think we all kind of feel this, at least I do. That's why I've stuck around. We really don't have a lot of resources out there for pre-vets. I don't think admissions/profession advice should be paid for imo, even though a lot of those types of services/companies have popped up.
and thank god you did !! you are an encyclopedia of information ( + jayna, + otter, + dubz, + shorty) the information most prevets knows wouldn’t be known if it wasn’t for you guys sticking around to help.

on the topic of the services, i think services from people who will read your essays, give you personalized feedback, and a general in-depth personalized experience are okay. i don’t think charging someone just to talk about vet school is cool, we’re all broke lol !! but they also shouldn’t cost $6,000…. like $500 MAX imo but that’s just me.

i think too many people charge, but at the same time, i think i received like 40+ requests to read essays this application cycle and i just couldn’t do them all. so i see both sides tbh.
 
and thank god you did !! you are an encyclopedia of information ( + jayna, + otter, + dubz, + shorty) the information most prevets knows wouldn’t be known if it wasn’t for you guys sticking around to help.

on the topic of the services, i think services from people who will read your essays, give you personalized feedback, and a general in-depth personalized experience are okay. i don’t think charging someone just to talk about vet school is cool, we’re all broke lol !! but they also shouldn’t cost $6,000…. like $500 MAX imo but that’s just me.

i think too many people charge, but at the same time, i think i received like 40+ requests to read essays this application cycle and i just couldn’t do them all. so i see both sides tbh.
Yeah that's a fair point. Like a legit proofreading. And that doesn't even have to be done by someone veterinary, although it's helpful if it is. But also taking this as an opportunity to remind anyone reading that a lot of colleges/universities actually offer free proofreading services through their learning centers/whatever centers.

There's been a handful of vets that have started 'advising' companies and are charging a lot (with no guarantees, for obvious reasons) and it just doesn't sit well with me. I mean they don't have any more experience than any of us old people on this forum do usually (ETA to say that I mean many of us here have also done interviews, reviewed apps, etc. ), at the end of the day you're just paying for their opinions.

There is someone in particular doing this right now, who is advertising themselves extremely frequently on social media pages, who won't even give their real name/educational background/work experience details out on their business site, but is charging for their services (which include admissions advising, NAVLE prep, general vet school tutoring, etc). It all just feels very uncomfy, but that's just one example. I had to do some light stalking to figure out who she was and what her background actually is.

When I was applying, there was an ex-dean of admissions (of Cornell, I think?) that was trying to get his advising business off the ground. I had a free consult with him and he couldn't tell me anything I hadn't already learned myself/by talking to schools/through SDN. He used to show up at the APVMA conferences, idk if he's still in this line of business or not though.

Another ETA: I have seen a few people say that the person I am referring to (the one who won't use her real name) is great, so I don't mean to suggest that anyone doing paid advising is a crook. I just don't think they can give much more insight than what one could get for free from other resources. And that I think's it's super weird to have a whole veterinary advising business based around a fake/kitschy name and just allude to your background/experiences without getting specific.
 
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And there is a general theme of some applicants just flat out not looking things up themselves?? It's so crazy to me that, as one example, you'd apply to 10 schools without having looked at their prereqs, GPA minimums, etc. but then be super confused/angry at the world why you were 10/10 for instant-rejections when you had sub-3.0 GPAs.
This is seen daily on reddit. Then people get mad when you tell them that requirements are, cough, required and the school won't be lenient for your app because you decided not to look before spending hundreds to thousands of dollars on application fees.

edit: whoops I got a little sassy there. Just tired of seeing the same thing every day lol
 
Hi hello I definitely got into an entire fight on here with someone insulting my school saying they didn’t get past round 1 but it was their safety school and they should’ve been a shoe in and everyone else who did make it past phase 1 who had lower gpa than them didn't deserve it💀 (sorry not sorry mods)
Oh yeah, a classic. 😆
 
This is seen daily on reddit. Then people get mad when you tell them that requirements are, cough, required and the school won't be lenient for your app because you decided not to look before spending hundreds to thousands of dollars on application fees.

edit: whoops I got a little sassy there. Just tired of seeing the same thing every day lol
Especially with Michigan state requiring all science pre reqs done before you apply, when they get rejected they crash out beyond belief. The belief that schools will give you grace because they should feel bad because you messed up is crazy.
 
This is absolutely a selfish problem that I fully realize I am beyond lucky to be facing, but my house construction quote is back and it’s $102,000 higher than I had been hoping for. And that’s before the inevitable overages and surprises. I knew it was probably going to be over what I wanted to keep things at but, ugh. If you need me in the near future, I’ll be working to save money…

Again, grateful to even be in a place where this is possible. But I’m just a bit disappointed and frustrated today.
 
People who want rabies titers for no other reason than "vaccines". Let me tell ya its 10x easier just to get the vaccine. Not to mention cheaper. The fact I fight so hard to "sell" a $20 vaccine vs just taking their money for a $250 test is ridiculous ☠️
there’s this lady going around tiktok right now who preaching about how you (being pet owners) should demand a titer rather than a vaccination and how dogs should only need one in their lifetime— if you are seeing a spike in this weirdo behavior, tik tok is likely to blame
 
there’s this lady going around tiktok right now who preaching about how you (being pet owners) should demand a titer rather than a vaccination and how dogs should only need one in their lifetime— if you are seeing a spike in this weirdo behavior, tik tok is likely to blame
I probably wish this was the case (my twch told me about it as i dont do tik tok) but it hasn't been 🙃
 
AM: Owner pissed bc DVM wouldn't prescribe antibiotics for his dog that DOESN'T have a current ear infection. We provided several alternatives that they declined. Tried explaining antibiotic resistance and how it was in the dog's best interest, but got cussed out and tried walking away without payment.

PM: Tried to take an 80 lbs shelter dog for a vet visit. Obvious kennel stress and doing flips in its tiny kennel. Opened the door a little, and the dog catapulted through. Then started trying to lunge and bite me. The shelter staff got the dog under control since it was less reactive towards them, and rudely said I don't know how to handle dogs. Like, is it so hard to put a warning on their cage door that they're reactive??
 
AM: Owner pissed bc DVM wouldn't prescribe antibiotics for his dog that DOESN'T have a current ear infection. We provided several alternatives that they declined. Tried explaining antibiotic resistance and how it was in the dog's best interest, but got cussed out and tried walking away without payment.

PM: Tried to take an 80 lbs shelter dog for a vet visit. Obvious kennel stress and doing flips in its tiny kennel. Opened the door a little, and the dog catapulted through. Then started trying to lunge and bite me. The shelter staff got the dog under control since it was less reactive towards them, and rudely said I don't know how to handle dogs. Like, is it so hard to put a warning on their cage door that they're reactive??
*doesn't tell you anything about a strange dog*

*gets mad when said strange dog is unpredictable* 🤦‍♂️
 
People who want rabies titers for no other reason than "vaccines". Let me tell ya its 10x easier just to get the vaccine. Not to mention cheaper. The fact I fight so hard to "sell" a $20 vaccine vs just taking their money for a $250 test is ridiculous ☠️
I came upon a well intentioned woman on instagram who is trying to educate people about wobblers and ECVM due to her 6 year old becoming severely neurologic. (Although I won’t get into it ECVM =/= neurologic risk) I took a peak at the comments to see the consensus and if anyone was brave enough to mention this. One of the top comments was that the rabies vaccine must have caused the neurologic deficits and that you should request to check “titters” and if they have enough “titters” to refuse the vaccine, this commenter didn’t seem to get that they still need to be vaccinated at least once to have any antibodies on the titer, also that, to my knowledge, there’s no published like effective titer range for horses? My flabber was gasted. (The author of the video shut it down at least but yeah, no bueno)
 
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what i am coming to realize is that i am not budgeting nearly enough time for processing information. the cycle that i am stuck in currently, is that i will just labor over a set of content for at least a week, trying really hard to study but retaining ultimately nothing. then, 3 days prior to the exam, something will click and it will feel like the knowledge is actually attainable but, by that point, it is really leaving me very little time to ACTUALLY study and get things into my working memory. a lot of my peers just instantly start doing quizlets/anki decks but i cannot cram that information into my head without feeling like i understand the bigger picture and it just takes me time to get to that point and i don't really know how to expedite that process. like i just read and read the text/lectures, watch videos, write down notes, and it all feels meaningless until suddenly it doesn't anymore. and each new set of content is kind of its own beast as to "learning how to learn" that certain topic.
 
I came upon a well intentioned woman on instagram who is trying to educate people about wobblers and ECVM due to her 6 year old becoming severely neurologic. (Although I won’t get into it ECVM =/= neurologic risk) I took a peak at the comments to see the consensus and if anyone was brave enough to mention this. One of the top comments was that the rabies vaccine must have caused the neurologic defects and that you should request to check “titters” and if they have enough “titters” to refuse the vaccine, this commenter didn’t seem to get that they still need to be vaccinated at least once to have any antibodies on the titer, also that, to my knowledge, there’s no published like effective titer range for horses? My flabber was gasted. (The author of the video shut it down at least but yeah, no bueno)
Not the titters 😭
 
I came upon a well intentioned woman on instagram who is trying to educate people about wobblers and ECVM due to her 6 year old becoming severely neurologic. (Although I won’t get into it ECVM =/= neurologic risk) I took a peak at the comments to see the consensus and if anyone was brave enough to mention this. One of the top comments was that the rabies vaccine must have caused the neurologic deficits and that you should request to check “titters” and if they have enough “titters” to refuse the vaccine, this commenter didn’t seem to get that they still need to be vaccinated at least once to have any antibodies on the titer, also that, to my knowledge, there’s no published like effective titer range for horses? My flabber was gasted. (The author of the video shut it down at least but yeah, no bueno)
Never mind the fact that we don't even know what titers mean in dogs and we only have an educated guess on what is "adequate", hence the recommendation for yearly/every three year vaccine recommendations 🙄

A few weeks ago I was volunteering at a free clinic and the cat was due for a feline distemper vaccine and I got my first "oh will that help her behavior? She's CRAZY at home". I thought that was exaggerated/didn't happen in real life lol.
 
Never mind the fact that we don't even know what titers mean in dogs and we only have an educated guess on what is "adequate", hence the recommendation for yearly/every three year vaccine recommendations 🙄

A few weeks ago I was volunteering at a free clinic and the cat was due for a feline distemper vaccine and I got my first "oh will that help her behavior? She's CRAZY at home". I thought that was exaggerated/didn't happen in real life lol.
THE DISTEMPERAMENT VACCINE!! A classic!

I crack this joke all the time (in the context of naughty/mean zoo animals) and zoo med people don't get it. Ugh. My vet med humor spans multiple fields.
 
I’m coming in hot with a second rant today. Yesterday started out so fab, it was a busy day that started in the Hamptons and ya know where it ended? MASS A ****ING CHUSETS. Because a local practitioner does not pick up the phone when his clients call with emergencies, and if he does pick up he tells them to call us! We don’t guarantee non-client emergency services, our clients come first. And if we can come, we charge an arm and a leg. But this dude couldn’t be reached to see a 30 y/o down horse that had to be euthed so I drove 2 hours, did my ****ing job, and even organized disposal, bc the poor owner was away on a trip, all because someone had to do it. And I’ve had to see this vets clients on emergency before! And we’ve talked to him about it and last time he told us to keep the client! Like sir! If you don’t want to do emergencies STOP VACCINATING THESE HORSES IM BEGGING YOU (he also practices bad medicine but that’s a whole other rant)
 
Truly, I’m not sure if I could keep a straight face if someone said “titters” to me in person. Like the idea of someone asking me to pull a “titter” because their horse has had “the limes” has me crying 😭
‘Pull a titter’ sounds like slang for freaking the f out













…and I might start saying it
 
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