Rescinded acceptance for omitting disciplinary info.

[torkulguy]

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I recently was accepted to school. I have had no intention of hiding my disciplinary history from it; in fact, the worst of it I did report. It was actually the very minor conflicts I had with my undergraduate school's housing office that did me in. My acceptance was rescinded based on decisions that were made by people who no longer work at my undergraduate institution, and, as a result, I cannot appeal to, despite the fact that I was never notified of these charges. Yet they are affecting me now and my future has been dismantled. But I digress; in general, is there a way to appeal the rescinding of an application? No such instructive exists on the schools website.

 

[torkulguy]

By the by if anybody feels like responding to me sooner than later I'd really appreciate it cause I'm taking this like my life is over.

 

[DocVaquero]

This is something you need to take up with the Department of Residence or Department of Judicial Affairs at your insitituion.

Sounds like a sucky situation and I'm sorry to hear about it. Hope it all works out.

 

[fogorvostan]

I would assume that you will need to go back and talk to your undergraduate university about this and try to get the charges dismissed. I know you said that those people are no longer there, but housing should have all of your paperwork. From there, I'm assuming the school has a judicial review process that you can go through. Unfortunately, I have no idea how long this process would take and if the school who rescinded your acceptance would still have a spot by the time it's all said and done.

 

[Rambunctious]

I recently was accepted to school. I have had no intention of hiding my disciplinary history from it; in fact, the worst of it I did report. It was actually the very minor conflicts I had with my undergraduate school's housing office that did me in. My acceptance was rescinded based on decisions that were made by people who no longer work at my undergraduate institution, and, as a result, I cannot appeal to, despite the fact that I was never notified of these charges. Yet they are affecting me now and my future has been dismantled. But I digress; in general, is there a way to appeal the rescinding of an application? No such instructive exists on the schools website.

Do you want to appeal a dental school's decision to rescind your acceptance? Is that possible?

 

[torkulguy]

Do you want to appeal a dental school's decision to rescind your acceptance? Is that possible?

Thanks for no help at all.

 

[CMistry]

If you actually did omit a disciplinary history, they have the right to rescind your acceptance. I'm sure if you read the details of your acceptable you will clearly see that it is conditional. I'm sorry if this is not what you want to hear, but I do not think you have any legal recourse. On the other hand if you did not omit information but rather left out details to a story, I would get a lawyer. Fast.

Working with the school will be slower and may cost you your acceptance this year, however it may be a necessary step to get into dental school again.

 

[doc toothache]

If you actually did omit a disciplinary history, they have the right to rescind your acceptance. I'm sure if you read the details of your acceptable you will clearly see that it is conditional. I'm sorry if this is not what you want to hear, but I do not think you have any legal recourse. On the other hand if you did not omit information but rather left out details to a story, I would get a lawyer. Fast.
Working with the school will be slower and may cost you your acceptance this year, however it may be a necessary step to get into dental school again.

The best way for conflict resolution.

 

[DoctaFauci]

Thanks for no help at all.

"The worst part I did report." How much of a disciplinary history do you have?

What makes you think you're more qualified than other applicants who don't have a disciplinary history whatsoever? If they rescinded your acceptance then they did so with full authority and consideration. Schools have a fiduciary responsibility to matriculate applicants they believe to align with established professional and academic codes of conduct. Better luck next time.

 

[torkulguy]

If you actually did omit a disciplinary history, they have the right to rescind your acceptance. I'm sure if you read the details of your acceptable you will clearly see that it is conditional. I'm sorry if this is not what you want to hear, but I do not think you have any legal recourse. On the other hand if you did not omit information but rather left out details to a story, I would get a lawyer. Fast.

Working with the school will be slower and may cost you your acceptance this year, however it may be a necessary step to get into dental school again.

My story is a bit complicated. I have had some trouble with the law as a victim of circumstance in several occasions, largely because I was hanging around my brothers who were a bunch of jackasses. In one instance, I actually wound up on jail for the night. this incident I reported.

But I got into trouble with housing at my undergraduate institution three times. Once was for a party my roommates threw. Another was for being caught with a bottle of alcohol in the dorms. And a third was falsely applied to me, of which I never got a disciplinary notice nor punishment for. In spite of this, my undergraduate institution advised me to just accept that I have that on my record. Now, two of these things were, in my opinion, are pretty standard for a dumb college kid. The third thing, however, didn't even happen to me. The school told me I can't fight it and I should just accept it. Keep in mind these events happened in 2009 and 2010.

Now when I filled this application out, it was from memory. In retrospect, that was probably a bad idea. But I put down the time I went to jail because that's something that I could NEVER forget. I didn't attempt to hide anything and underage drinking seems trivial in comparison. I would have GLADLY put it down if I knew it was on my file. I would have gladly put down false charge if I had known about it. But I didn't and now I'm here. I think my records reflect, at the very least, that I'm not trying to hide anything.

 

[torkulguy]

My story is a bit complicated. I have had some trouble with the law as a victim of circumstance in several occasions, largely because I was hanging around my brothers who were a bunch of jackasses. In one instance, I actually wound up on jail for the night. this incident I reported.

But I got into trouble with housing at my undergraduate institution three times. Once was for a party my roommates threw. Another was for being caught with a bottle of alcohol in the dorms. And a third was falsely applied to me, of which I never got a disciplinary notice nor punishment for. In spite of this, my undergraduate institution advised me to just accept that I have that on my record. Now, two of these things were, in my opinion, are pretty standard for a dumb college kid. The third thing, however, didn't even happen to me. The school told me I can't fight it and I should just accept it. Keep in mind these events happened in 2009 and 2010.

Now when I filled this application out, it was from memory. In retrospect, that was probably a bad idea. But I put down the time I went to jail because that's something that I could NEVER forget. I didn't attempt to hide anything and underage drinking seems trivial in comparison. I would have GLADLY put it down if I knew it was on my file. I would have gladly put down false charge if I had known about it. But I didn't and now I'm here. I think my records reflect, at the very least, that I'm not trying to hide anything.

On top of this, I had the chance to draft a statement to explain why I failed to put these things in my profile. I said exactly the truth: I forgot and one charge was erroneous, so I could have not known about it. I was given only 3 days to draft this statement. Whatever disciplinary report the sent to them could not be shared with me because of reasons. So I had to contact my undergraduate university in order to get the same reports. this process takes way too much time. So I'm really flying blind here. I have really not a clue on what they sent about me. I can't begin to understand how anything could be so terrible that they decided to rescind my application.

 

[RxStudentatUB]

Not sure about dental school, but I've seen several cases where a medical student had his/her acceptance rescinded due to omitting records such as earlier official transcripts, disciplinary records, and the like. They did NOT enroll that cycle: they were, however, admitted later (waiting an additional 1-2 cycles) after proving to the committee they rectified this act of non-disclosure (whether intentional/unintentional is another story) through extra community service hours or extra coursework as a post-bac student.

 

[torkulguy]

Not sure about dental school, but I've seen several cases where a medical student had his/her acceptance rescinded due to omitting records such as earlier official transcripts, disciplinary records, and the like. They did NOT enroll that cycle: they were, however, admitted later (waiting an additional 1-2 cycles) after proving to the committee they rectified this act of non-disclosure (whether intentional/unintentional is another story) through extra community service hours or extra coursework as a post-bac student.

I'm trying my hardest to fight this. I know that not knowing me makes this easier to dismiss but I really do feel wronged. In spite of this, I know that, most likely, this will come down to me having to wait yet another year to reapply. Thanks for not being a jerk.

 

[Jgrobi17]

I recently was accepted to school. I have had no intention of hiding my disciplinary history from it; in fact, the worst of it I did report. It was actually the very minor conflicts I had with my undergraduate school's housing office that did me in. My acceptance was rescinded based on decisions that were made by people who no longer work at my undergraduate institution, and, as a result, I cannot appeal to, despite the fact that I was never notified of these charges. Yet they are affecting me now and my future has been dismantled. But I digress; in general, is there a way to appeal the rescinding of an application? No such instructive exists on the schools website.

So at what point does the dental school that accepted you even find out about this stuff? Did t come on your certiphi background check or did the dental school contact your undergraduate institution to inquire about things like that post acceptance?

 

[Typical Average Student]

So at what point does the dental school that accepted you even find out about this stuff? Did t come on your certiphi background check or did the dental school contact your undergraduate institution to inquire about things like that post acceptance?

It should have come from the Certiphi background check. Other schools can't call in to request your information, it's against FERPA.... unless you signed your life away on some contract.

 

[Rambunctious]

Thanks for no help at all.

Seriously did not mean any offense. I was trying to clarify what you were saying. I apologize!

 

[GypsyHummus]

What does the dental application say exactly about records? Did it ask you to disclose such a thing?

 

[RxStudentatUB]

So at what point does the dental school that accepted you even find out about this stuff? Did t come on your certiphi background check or did the dental school contact your undergraduate institution to inquire about things like that post acceptance?

Once a student is accepted into a professional program (medicine, dentistry, podiatry, etc.), the admissions office confirms that the record on Certiphi (criminal background) matches up with the info on the primary and secondary application. The same verification is done with a student's academic record through the N.S. Clearinghouse database. If there is any discrepancy, the admissions office will, in most likelihood, rescind the student's admission and make him/her reapply. The OP understandably feels terrible about this situation but keep your head up.

 

[torkulguy]

Update for those interested:

I tried my hardest to fight this thing. After discussing with the admissions board at my prospective school, they explained to me that they don't care if whatever issues were minor nor that it was an honest mistake, even if they genuinely believed me (which seems to be the case as the dean of admissions there offered condolences and to advise me through my inevitable gap year that I will be facing). So lesson learned: always double check with your school when filling out any form in your application. who knows what idiot put what in your file? The fact of the matter is that it's there and you got to live with it.

Still kicking myself.

 

[743291]

Update for those interested:

I tried my hardest to fight this thing. After discussing with the admissions board at my prospective school, they explained to me that they don't care if whatever issues were minor nor that it was an honest mistake, even if they genuinely believed me (which seems to be the case as the dean of admissions there offered condolences and to advise me through my inevitable gap year that I will be facing). So lesson learned: always double check with your school when filling out any form in your application. who knows what idiot put what in your file? The fact of the matter is that it's there and you got to live with it.

Still kicking myself.

I was wondering if it shows on your transcript when someone had trouble with their school?

 

[743291]

Update for those interested:

I tried my hardest to fight this thing. After discussing with the admissions board at my prospective school, they explained to me that they don't care if whatever issues were minor nor that it was an honest mistake, even if they genuinely believed me (which seems to be the case as the dean of admissions there offered condolences and to advise me through my inevitable gap year that I will be facing). So lesson learned: always double check with your school when filling out any form in your application. who knows what idiot put what in your file? The fact of the matter is that it's there and you got to live with it.

Still kicking myself.

How did you learn about the revoke of your acceptance? Did the school email, mail, or call you?

 

[torkulguy]

How it worked for me was after my acceptance I was required to fill out a bunch of paperwork, one of which was a disciplinary form to my undergraduate institution to confirm what was placed on my application was copacetic. After that, the school that accepted me emailed me and said "Hey something isn't right here, please make a statement about it and we'll get back to you with a decision." So I drafted a statement to no avail and got the thing rescinded. This all happened over email; however, after the fact the dean took his time to talk to me on the phone.

 

[CanaDMD]

I won't be of any help, but I do feel horrible for hearing that such a thing has happened. I believe that people can change, so it sucks to see that you had to go through this.

Keep your head held high 🙂