Restored Osteopathic Medical Student Forum

[Roxas]

I do like the slower pace...and quite frankly, we get a lot less of the neuroticism and trolling in our little corner of the site.

It's always bad when the new wave of accepted premeds starts going to allo

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[Doctor Strange]

It's always bad when the new wave of accepted premeds starts going to allo

"When should I start pre-studying?"

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[235009]

I've heard numerous MDs use the term, including on many residency interviews. Maybe it's not really as prevalent among surgeons or maybe you just don't notice it.

As a non-surgeon I will corroborate the fact that I have never once heard anyone use the term allopath or allopathic in real life. I'm glad that pejorative term has finally been removed from this section of the website.

EDIT: I take that back. Apparently "allopathic class threads" is still a thing. This should be changed to "MD class threads"!

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[hallowmann]

Are we all seriously going to pretend the term isn't all over?

Here's Johns Hopkins Pre-med Advising Using it (with a blurb about the history): http://studentaffairs.jhu.edu/preprofadvising/pre-medhealth/overview/allopathic-medicine/

How about Washington & Jefferson: http://www.washjeff.edu/allopathic-medicine

How about the Canadian Resident Matching Service: http://www.carms.ca/en/applicants/cmg/

How about the fact that the NRMP used it in their charting outcomes report this year: http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Charting-Outcomes-US-Allopathic-Seniors-2016.pdf

Come on guys, its not just DOs that use the term. I'm genuinely convinced that some of you must be deaf to it unless you hear it from a DO as a dig.

 

[acapnial]

Are we all seriously going to pretend the term isn't all over?

Here's Johns Hopkins Pre-med Advising Using it (with a blurb about the history): http://studentaffairs.jhu.edu/preprofadvising/pre-medhealth/overview/allopathic-medicine/

How about Washington & Jefferson: http://www.washjeff.edu/allopathic-medicine

How about the Canadian Resident Matching Service: http://www.carms.ca/en/applicants/cmg/

How about the fact that the NRMP used it in their charting outcomes report this year: http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Charting-Outcomes-US-Allopathic-Seniors-2016.pdf

Come on guys, its not just DOs that use the term. I'm genuinely convinced that some of you must be deaf to it unless you hear it from a DO as a dig.

I've heard it from MD's, but I'm 99% sure that it was for my benefit, and that they don't use the term when there aren't any DO's or osteopathic students around. I've never heard anyone use it as any kind of negative slang.

 

[wxman393]

Are we all seriously going to pretend the term isn't all over?

Here's Johns Hopkins Pre-med Advising Using it (with a blurb about the history): http://studentaffairs.jhu.edu/preprofadvising/pre-medhealth/overview/allopathic-medicine/

How about Washington & Jefferson: http://www.washjeff.edu/allopathic-medicine

How about the Canadian Resident Matching Service: http://www.carms.ca/en/applicants/cmg/

How about the fact that the NRMP used it in their charting outcomes report this year: http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Charting-Outcomes-US-Allopathic-Seniors-2016.pdf

Come on guys, its not just DOs that use the term. I'm genuinely convinced that some of you must be deaf to it unless you hear it from a DO as a dig.

Don't forget, the new MD school proposed at NSU will be called College of Allopathic Medicine.

Edit: I've never heard an MD refer to themselves as an "allopath" just like I am never going to refer to myself as an "osteopath".

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[hallowmann]

Don't forget, the new MD school proposed at NSU will be called College of Allopathic Medicine.

Edit: I've never heard an MD refer to themselves as an "allopath" just like I am never going to refer to myself as an "osteopath".

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To clarify, I also have never heard the term allopath used, but I've definitely heard MDs talk about allopathic medical schools and students.

 

[LutGholein]

College of Allopathic Medicine.

Wait what?

 

[Tak16]

Wait what?

I think it's more to distinguish itself from the College of Osteopathic Medicine.

 

[Lawpy]

Here just some examples: DO programs essentially require an audition to match, MDs do not have to do this generally. Finding research at DO schools requires a lot more legwork than at MD schools, an MD student will not be able to relate because their experience will be a lot different. Rotations are fairly scattered and largely in a preceptor model at DO schools, while MDs can have some rotations like this they largely spend their rotation time at their school's medical center. The issues the different groups of students encounter are simply different in a number of aspects.

but these issues are still medical student issues right? it's just specific to the DO schools. i don't see how these warrant a separate forum altogether. just because MD students don't know/don't care doesn't mean those threads would be meaningless or disappear to oblivion.

volume control measures like bans on regular NP/PA bashing threads (and have just one master thread on the discussion posted in Topics in Healthcare forums) will help. a lot of the threads on MD forums are useful, especially AMA threads and medical education threads by sozme, Psai, cbrons etc. and these threads are of interest to DO students as well. so with proper reform and restructuring, I think a merger is definitely possible and DO threads won't be crowded out.

 

[67552931811]

Wait what?

I would be majorly pissed if I was a nova student. The entire idea is a giant slap in the face to them and their education.

 

[Doctor_Strange]

There can only be one Doctor Strange.

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It's called the multiverse!

 

[QualityProcess]

I would be majorly pissed if I was a nova student. The entire idea is a giant slap in the face to them and their education.

At this point we're desensitized. After students and employees were exposed to toxic levels of formaldehyde in anatomy lab and the ensuing OSHA fines, a "whoopsies!" in forgetting to renew our student health insurance, our dean and other administrators wanting to "get back to seeing patients" shortly before the university announced the opening of an md school was kind of uneventful to us.

 

[LutGholein]

At this point we're desensitized. After students and employees were exposed to toxic levels of formaldehyde in anatomy lab and the ensuing OSHA fines, a "whoopsies!" in forgetting to renew our student health insurance, our dean and other administrators wanting to "get back to seeing patients" shortly before the university announced the opening of an md school was kind of uneventful to us.

Do you guys have any general idea if the "college of allopathic medicine" comes to fruition would both schools share resources? Specifically would they share clinical sites? Or would this play out more like Touro's acquisition of NYMC?

 

[AlbinoHawk DO]

I liked the idea of having one Medical Students forum, but I think there needs to be a DO specific subforum for struggles that only DO students go through due to the nature of our colleges.