Hi,
Does anyone have rise exam questions from previous years.
Thanks
Does anyone have rise exam questions from previous years.
Thanks
Rise exam previous questions
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I heard from a resident at the last CAP meeting I went to that residents in some programs still get the questions by using screen capture software during the exam. I bet the ASCP frowns on this sort of thing but I don't know how they can police it.
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As a reminder, using these forums to disseminate or share copyright-protected material is not allowed. RISE exam questions (unless they are released by ASCP) are included. Everyone who takes it does receive (with their score report) a list of the topics that are asked about in each question, which is helpful.
I don't know how they can police it either, perhaps by increasing proctoring of exams. With the amount of residents that likely cheat on this exam, for what reason I have no idea other than trying to look good, they may have to enforce that.
I don't know how they can police it either, perhaps by increasing proctoring of exams. With the amount of residents that likely cheat on this exam, for what reason I have no idea other than trying to look good, they may have to enforce that.
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Several programs are now using the RISE as criterion for termination of employment as well as making their residents' scores/percentiles public in a departmental posting/email/etc. This was discussed at a recent CAP Residents Forum meeting with a resolution passed which spoke out against this sort of thing. With that in mind, I can see why some residents would be tempted to cheat.
Taking screen shots of RISE questions isn't the only way that residents cheat. Many share answers in between tests or even just keep another window open in IE while they take the test to google answers. I have even heard of live chat via IM or gmail between residents during the test.
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It's my understanding that this year's RISE will use its own downloadable browser that prohibits you from using other applications. Cheating will still occur, but it'll be marginally more difficult than in previous years.
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This needs to be addressed way more strongly. I.E. ACGME says if it's evident that the RISE is used as a criterion for progression or termination or humiliation through public dessemination of scores you lose accreditation. Pretty simple, extremely easy; lets the exam be a tool for the residents as it was intended. Of course since its easy, simple and would actually improve the situation it has a 0 chance of actually happening.
If a program is not only stupid and lazy enough to use the RISE as a condition for employment, but also stupid enough to then administer the exam unproctored or on other ways that allow the residents to cheat, then the program deserves everything it gets from such actions.
I'm guessing that the programs that do use the RISE in this fashion are not quality programs. Am I right?
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The ASCP doesnt want residents screen capturing the exam for the same reason it doesnt release the exam questions in the first place. Namely, they dont want to have to write a whole new exam every year. Instead, they now recycle many of the exact same questions every year.
It is unfortunate because the RISE exams are a good source of practice questions for the boards.
It is unfortunate because the RISE exams are a good source of practice questions for the boards.
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Maybe you should volunteer to help write questions then. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to write questions for these exams? It's not a trivial task. The questions have to be difficult enough to make people think, and also have to be current and accurate. It's not as though it's the same test every year - I would say the vast majority of questions are different, but there are always some repeats. Basically, no one who writes any of the questions is compensated either.
I would wager that the people who do the most complaining about lack of new questions would also be the last to offer to help write new ones.
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It's tediously hard, boring, unrewarding, and when you try to protect your work by hoping that people don't STEAL it, you are (apparently) called lazy. It takes just as much practice to write good questions as to become a good journal article author. And as you said, it's free non-paid work. Every year, it seems, there are new guidlines about how to write questions so that most formats from CAP educational CD's, SAMs, CME's etc can be the same style as what the board is writing. All of these guidelines in addition to having to be accurate, timely and relevant. And they actually DO care that they write questions that are the same style as the boards.. and people actually spend entire days going over and rewriting questions to go with activities, presentations, modules etc.
The things I've been involved with were a total of probably 30 questions total. I've never written RISE questions and haven't spoken to people who have, but by the looks of how the questions evolved just in the 4 years I took it I would bet they deal with the same issues. This for a test that takes several hours and hundreds of questions. Some of the questions repeat (the first question on my exam every year seemed to be about extracellular ions), but some don't. They still tell you the topic of every question which should be plenty to get you in the ballpark.
Why in the world residents would want to breed less competent younger residents by making exams easier for them (by stealing questions and giving them less reason to pay attention to the actual material) I have never ever understood.
