Rosalind Franklin BMS 2020-2021

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JowellHollyBuddy33 said:
That's literally what they tell you on the first day. And everyone who has been successful in this program has done exactly that. Show up. Don't get C's. Do well in your interview.

You want to improve your chances? Get involved on and off campus. Do some volunteering. Do some research. It's literally the same song and dance as what you would do anywhere else, in any other program, under any other circumstances in order to improve your chances of getting into medical school. This program is a way in for a lot of underdoggin' kinds of candidates. You're basing your disdain for this program purely off of hearsay and telling other people not to attend. You've never even sniffed the door!
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Touché I haven’t done this program. However, when you have people that have successfully completed this program post on here it’s a scam and dont attend I would say that’s a huuuge red flag.
 
Has anyone applied to this program through the link they give if you applied to CMS the past cycle but didn't get in (they called it the "BMS Response Form")? I did that and they said that they received my application, which made it seem like they just pulled materials from my AMCAS application. The only things not checked off on the checklist is the CASPer score (which I've already requested to be transferred) and the recommendation letters.

But they want the rec letters to be submitted through RFUCAS which has a lot of other materials to complete, so I'm confused as to whether it all needs to be done if they've already said they've received my application. (I'm mostly applying here for the waived fee.)
 
Dochopeful13 said:
It seems this past years class was a disaster. Can you confirm?
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I was part of the latest BMS class and can confirm that this program has gone down the dumps now, especially with how the last few months with the way everything was handled. Don't be fooled by the past reviews of this program because its not the same anymore and our class found out the hard way. I'm sure theres a reason why the BMS website now only shows stats and outcomes until class of 2019..
 
mapleapple55 said:
I was part of the latest BMS class and can confirm that this program has gone down the dumps now, especially with how the last few months with the way everything was handled. Don't be fooled by the past reviews of this program because its not the same anymore and our class found out the hard way. I'm sure theres a reason why the BMS website now only shows stats and outcomes until class of 2019..
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Can you please expand on this? Like what percentage of your classmates successfully matriculated into CMS.

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mapleapple55 said:
I was part of the latest BMS class and can confirm that this program has gone down the dumps now, especially with how the last few months with the way everything was handled. Don't be fooled by the past reviews of this program because its not the same anymore and our class found out the hard way. I'm sure theres a reason why the BMS website now only shows stats and outcomes until class of 2019..
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Why do you think the program has gone down the dumps?
 
Startingover123 said:
Do you work for the school? I have good information that less than 40 percent of students made it into cms this past year. There have been multiple students who even were accepted into cms posting on sdn that this program is a scam. Don’t do this program and waste 50k plus. You literally can get the grades and do well everything they ask and get rejected still.
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Also a past BMSer from class of 2020 who was lucky enough to somehow get in and I STRONGLY DO NOT recommend this program. Many many people who had the grades, hours and interviews have not gotten in and these people had better grades than me and were part of my study group. These people did go to the BMS/CMS admin to figure out the reason/feedback and they were simply brushed off saying to go into RFU Podiatry or Pharmacy (like what? they committed to medicine over other careers for a reason? but RFU just wants to further suck out money in one way or another) Also this program has become a major mess this year and was not worth the enormous amount of money. Not sure if its worth to "sniffed the door" by wasting more than 60k and potentially never being able to go into medicine again. This is a very high risk program and with how it became now the risk is not even worth it. Feel free to PM if you have any questions about the BMS program this past year!
 
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westcoastpremed147 said:
Also a past BMSer from class of 2020 who was lucky enough to somehow get in and I STRONGLY DO NOT recommend this program. Many many people who had the grades, hours and interviews have not gotten in and these people had better grades than me and were part of my study group. These people did go to the BMS/CMS admin to figure out the reason/feedback and they were simply brushed off saying to go into RFU Podiatry or Pharmacy (like what? they committed to medicine over other careers for a reason? but RFU just wants to further suck out money in one way or another) Also this program has become a major mess this year and was not the enormous amount of money. Not sure if its worth to "sniffed the door" by wasting more than 60k and potentially never being able to go into medicine again. This is a very high risk program and with how it became now the risk is not even worth it. Feel free to PM if you have any questions about the BMS program this past year!
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Thank you for your transparency.
 
If you complete BMS at RFU (with good grades but don’t make it to CMS) make you a better candidate/applicant for other Med schools? Is the Degree from RFU good enough to be considered by other Med Schools?
 
Awesome! said:
If you complete BMS at RFU (with good grades but don’t make it to CMS) make you a better candidate/applicant for other Med schools? Is the Degree from RFU good enough to be considered by other Med Schools?
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Getting "good grades" in this SMP is very tough due to the nature of the program. Even getting all Bs is not an easy feat but that would result in a 3.0 graduate GPA which is really low for Medical Schools and may get you automatically filtered out. This is why people say that this program could hurt you even if you have the grades "qualifying" for CMS but don't get in and have to apply else where. This program is usually for people who are trying for the linkage at RFU and not really well regarded with other schools. In essence, getting a decent GPA in the program (which is very very tough to) wouldn't help much since this program doesn't have strong regard in the medical community but getting low GPA would hurt since it looks like a general red flag to admissions committees and may even screen you out without reading your app.
 
mapleapple55 said:
Getting "good grades" in this SMP is very tough due to the nature of the program. Even getting all Bs is not an easy feat but that would result in a 3.0 graduate GPA which is really low for Medical Schools and may get you automatically filtered out. This is why people say that this program could hurt you even if you have the grades "qualifying" for CMS but don't get in and have to apply else where. This program is usually for people who are trying for the linkage at RFU and not really well regarded with other schools. In essence, getting a decent GPA in the program (which is very very tough to) wouldn't help much since this program doesn't have strong regard in the medical community but getting low GPA would hurt since it looks like a general red flag to admissions committees and may even screen you out without reading your app.
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Thank you for replying. What makes it difficult to get good grades at this program?
 
Awesome! said:
Thank you for replying. What makes it difficult to get good grades at this program?
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The classes itself are very challenging and rigorous due to the amount of information being thrown at you is a lot for the short time you get to study for the exams. But what actually makes it hard to get good grades is the fact that the exams have very little number of questions and even getting a few wrong on one exam can kill your grade. For example, in CMCB (which you take in first quarter), we had 4 exams total and two out of the four had like 21 questions each. If you're getting more than 2 questions wrong then you're automatically at a B and keep in mind these exam questions are very tough and trickly worded so its quite easy to mess up even if you know all the material. The room you have to possibly screw up is very very small because any one exam can break your entire grade.
 
M2 here -

The program worked for me, but the linkage is there based on the people who finish the program. There were a lot of people who dropped out this year for a variety of reasons including grades and other acceptances. The program does its job fine of getting people into medical school who have no other chances such as myself, but you should be exploring other avenues until this is your last resort. My personal opinion is that the program was great (my year had a high acceptance rate with people being denied who had grades - but they can't afford to accept everyone which is why the program is being referred to as a scam). I have a close friend of mine who completed the Georgetown SMP with a 4.0 and he didn't get in the first application cycle. He applied again but got denied- appealed the denial and got waitlisted. He was waitlisted at several schools and then accepted at Georgetown. Keep in mind these SMPs are not going anywhere and you should wait (if you are truly hesitant) to see how the acceptances play out with the new dean this upcoming year.

I would do the program again 10/10 times, but I was also involved in the community and did a bunch of other things to help my application besides study. Interviewing skills and portraying yourself are both important - I can understand why some people in the last class didn't make it, but others I don't get. The admissions process is complicated, but doing well in the program is not going to shoot you in the foot. You should be coming in here to get straight A's like at any SMP and not banking on getting B's to getting in. Obviously this is easier said than done, but being perfect for one year to give you a solid chance at a future is well worth the price to pay. In response to people saying the program is not well regarded, RFU BMS has been around for a while. It is not from a well-known school, but people know about the program and know it is hard. I have had the chance to speak with different doctors and people on admissions committees solely due to connections who have either heard that the program was rigorous or never heard about it at all. It's going to be a toss-up either way, but that's how all things are in life.

You're going to see biases from both views with positives and negatives toward the program. Ultimately make your decision based on how you think you'd fit into the school and remember any SMP should be your FINAL avenue to explore in any scenario. Treat SDN as a way to guide you if you have no knowledge about a matter, but don't use it as an advisor to tell you what you should and shouldn't do.

If you guys have any questions, feel free to PM me and I'll try to answer as best as I can.
 
AkitaGuy said:
M2 here -

The program worked for me, but the linkage is there based on the people who finish the program. There were a lot of people who dropped out this year for a variety of reasons including grades and other acceptances. The program does its job fine of getting people into medical school who have no other chances such as myself, but you should be exploring other avenues until this is your last resort. My personal opinion is that the program was great (my year had a high acceptance rate with people being denied who had grades - but they can't afford to accept everyone which is why the program is being referred to as a scam). I have a close friend of mine who completed the Georgetown SMP with a 4.0 and he didn't get in the first application cycle. He applied again but got denied- appealed the denial and got waitlisted. He was waitlisted at several schools and then accepted at Georgetown. Keep in mind these SMPs are not going anywhere and you should wait (if you are truly hesitant) to see how the acceptances play out with the new dean this upcoming year.

I would do the program again 10/10 times, but I was also involved in the community and did a bunch of other things to help my application besides study. Interviewing skills and portraying yourself are both important - I can understand why some people in the last class didn't make it, but others I don't get. The admissions process is complicated, but doing well in the program is not going to shoot you in the foot. You should be coming in here to get straight A's like at any SMP and not banking on getting B's to getting in. Obviously this is easier said than done, but being perfect for one year to give you a solid chance at a future is well worth the price to pay. In response to people saying the program is not well regarded, RFU BMS has been around for a while. It is not from a well-known school, but people know about the program and know it is hard. I have had the chance to speak with different doctors and people on admissions committees solely due to connections who have either heard that the program was rigorous or never heard about it at all. It's going to be a toss-up either way, but that's how all things are in life.

You're going to see biases from both views with positives and negatives toward the program. Ultimately make your decision based on how you think you'd fit into the school and remember any SMP should be your FINAL avenue to explore in any scenario. Treat SDN as a way to guide you if you have no knowledge about a matter, but don't use it as an advisor to tell you what you should and shouldn't do.

If you guys have any questions, feel free to PM me and I'll try to answer as best as I can.
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I have read that the new dean doesn’t seem to hold this program in high regard. Any truth to that?
 
Startingover123 said:
I have read that the new dean doesn’t seem to hold this program in high regard. Any truth to that?
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Honestly, I haven't heard anything positive or negative about the dean's POV. I would say the only way to truly find out is to observe the upcoming class and watch everything play out.
 
chocopuffs8 said:
Honestly, its interesting how most of the positive review/posts are from older BMS students from past years before the last class but people's from this last year's class have had complaints about the program and how it changed/was not what they expected from past years' experience. Not a BMS student but I was looking into this program and noticed this
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Most of the people who stick around are the ones who made it through. Just a reporting bias. I am not sure how many were rejected from my year, but it was around 15-20 people with grades. I think around 80 of us interviewed. These are rough numbers as I can't recall the exact numbers from my previous posts. To be honest, I don't think admissions changed much. Just a smaller class size so more friends did not make the cut and hence this hits closer to home. I talked to advisors about last year's class and crunched numbers with them. People on here have mentioned different numbers than what advisors told me personally, so I'm just doing everything based on what I received and not from SDN. I have no clue how many last their acceptances, so numbers do change.
 
Westcoaststudent95 said:
A car isn't absolutely required, but it does make your life here a whole lot easier. RFU is located in North Chicago, which is a suburb of Chicago, not the northern part of Chicago proper. I personally have a car here and I'm glad I do as it makes my life easier. I have friends that don't and they frequently ask for rides, which I don't mind. If you don't bring one you'll easily be able to find someone with a car to give you a ride somewhere. In my own experience, I've found the camaraderie to be well developed and nice. There doesn't feel like there's an attitude of people trying to outdo each other. There aren't a max amount of A letter grades, so if everyone did great on an exam then everyone gets an A. I never felt like I was fighting with the guy or girl next to me to outdo them, so people share resources, study tips, and all that. Exams are curved up to an 80%. So if the average was 77% on an exam, we all get a 3% curve, aka if you get an 85% you now have an 88%.

About shadowing and volunteering, there is definitely time, especially because of lot of us in the program didn't have enough hours. Before the start of BMS, your advisor will notify you that you need an additional 10, 20, 50, etc service hours before you apply to CMS. Granted, you have a huge amount of classes so you don't have a giant abundance of free time, but if you're good with time management you can time. I'm sure you can find 25 free hours in a four month period. Granted, if you find out you need extra hours, I would just do my best to knock them out before the start of the program. You'll be extremely grateful to your past self when you can spend all your time on academics here.

I applied to a few outside medical schools, but CMS was my first choice. Got waitlisted at all my other schools and got my conditional acceptance at CMS.
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Clarification-- you got waitlisted for these other MD programs, with the same stats as before, but this time with a SMP under your belt? Did you happen to apply a cycle and not get in, therefore decided to do the masters, or did you just jump in and do the masters in hopes that it would work out? And, therefore, assuming you took the MCAT prior to the program, what did you score? What were your stats so I have a better understanding of what it takes to get in. Thank you so much WESTCOASTSTUD!
 
HealingGrace said:
Clarification-- you got waitlisted for these other MD programs, with the same stats as before, but this time with a SMP under your belt? Did you happen to apply a cycle and not get in, therefore decided to do the masters, or did you just jump in and do the masters in hopes that it would work out? And, therefore, assuming you took the MCAT prior to the program, what did you score? What were your stats so I have a better understanding of what it takes to get in. Thank you so much WESTCOASTSTUD!
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Yes, correct. I was waitlisted at two other MD schools and have an acceptance at CMS. I had an unsuccessful cycle (both MD and DO apps) that resulted in not even a single waitlist and used BMS as my backup option. I took the MCAT once and scored a 506 and had a 3.1ish cumulative gpa and below a 3.0 science gpa. So it's understandable why I didn't get into any school the first time around.
 
This program keeps e-mailing to apply. So far I've been accepted to Rowan's Post bacc, Geisingers MBS, PCOM BMS, waiting on VCOM. This program seems hefty in price. Is it true that less than 40% of the class is making it into Med school or is that just for CMS?
 
chocopuffs8 said:
Lol I keep getting those emails too.. super annoying honestly. It seems that the program has turned out to be terrible so I wouldn't make the risk of joining esp with that price and how everyone is saying it turned out for the most recent class. They really are going on desperate lengths to get people to join the program since it is a money making scheme for them. I would ignore or block those emails
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Ads for this program have been all over my Facebook feed lol. I don’t remember seeing ads for this program ever before. Maybe they are hurting for enrollment now?
 
blueseashells said:
Recently came across this post on reddit:

Honestly so disappointed with RFU/BMS and am not surprised at all
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Ya I live by the school and I’m even thinking of applying there anymore. I wonder if it’s a race thing or these programs are just meant to make $$$ and screw over students in the process. I haven’t seen one good post about BMS in here in awhile.
 
I was accepted into the program. I was really debating between this program and a couple of DO programs. I wanted to choose RFU because of the stigma that is still attached to DO programs. However, as a black gay man, I don't think I want to deal with racial issues/trauma while trying to complete an intense one-year program. I really wanted to go here and I thought the changes to their website in support of BLM were a plus but now I'm disappointed to learn that it was in response to their own shortcomings. I hope anyone else accepted into the program and the medical school can use their voices and privilege to create some changes.
 
RuRu91 said:
I was accepted into the program. I was really debating between this program and a couple of DO programs. I wanted to choose RFU because of the stigma that is still attached to DO programs. However, as a black gay man, I don't think I want to deal with racial issues/trauma while trying to complete an intense one-year program. I really wanted to go here and I thought the changes to their website in support of BLM were a plus but now I'm disappointed to learn that it was in response to their own shortcomings. I hope anyone else accepted into the program and the medical school can use their voices and privilege to create some changes.
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I have been rethinking about going to this program as well. Best of luck whichever path you take!
 
RuRu91 said:
I was accepted into the program. I was really debating between this program and a couple of DO programs. I wanted to choose RFU because of the stigma that is still attached to DO programs. However, as a black gay man, I don't think I want to deal with racial issues/trauma while trying to complete an intense one-year program. I really wanted to go here and I thought the changes to their website in support of BLM were a plus but now I'm disappointed to learn that it was in response to their own shortcomings. I hope anyone else accepted into the program and the medical school can use their voices and privilege to create some changes.
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DO NOT PASS UP ON A DO ACCEPTANCE. This program is shady yes, but to take a risk and go to any SMP just for the MD title will only hurt you. If you have an acceptance to a DO school take it and go. Many people from both MD/DO routes end up going to primary care. It also doesn't mean you won't be able to do what you want if you went DO. The path will be more difficult, yes, BUT you will be a Doctor nonetheless. It would be a grave mistake to pass up a DO mistake for an SMP. Unless you have a 510+ MCAT and are going to one of the better well-known SMPs that have a history of many high MCAT students who move onto MD schools. Otherwise don't even think about an SMP.
 
As an URM myself, I can confirm that RFU is not the best place to be if you're a minority and they make it very clear in many ways.. Everything about that reddit post is real
 
mapleapple55 said:
As an URM myself, I can confirm that RFU is not the best place to be if you're a minority and they make it very clear in many ways.. Everything about that reddit post is real
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Wow I’m sorry to hear that. Can you please elaborate why? The negatives about this school are really starting to stack up.
 
icecube12 said:
can someone who was in the program previously message me? I am 50/50 on deciding to withdraw
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May I ask why you may withdraw? Could you DM me? I’m trying to see if I should apply for next cycle.
 
RFU BMS was a godsend. Idk what everyone here is talking about. Nothing is guaranteed. You don't know if people are d-bags in the interview. Do your best, and if you get in then great. If you do not make it, atleast you will have a year of grades to help you if you are ok with going to a different MD school, DO school or another path in the health sciences. Stop being salty.
 
TonySoprano said:
RFU BMS was a godsend. Idk what everyone here is talking about. Nothing is guaranteed. You don't know if people are d-bags in the interview. Do your best, and if you get in then great. If you do not make it, atleast you will have a year of grades to help you if you are ok with going to a different MD school, DO school or another path in the health sciences. Stop being salty.
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Are u a recent grad of the program? If you are basing your opinion on years past then your statement is not really valid. Several have said on here that the linkage has gotten worse over the last several years. Lol ya if you don’t make it in you are 50 k plus in debt no biggie. Lastly, several people on here have said the program is very difficult and the fact that the tests have such few questions it’s hard to get A’s. Straight B’s will not look good for other medical schools.
 
Startingover123 said:
Are u a recent grad of the program? If you are basing your opinion on years past then your statement is not really valid. Several have said on here that the linkage has gotten worse over the last several years. Lol ya if you don’t make it in you are 50 k plus in debt no biggie. Lastly, several people on here have said the program is very difficult and the fact that the tests have such few questions it’s hard to get A’s. Straight B’s will not look good for other medical schools.
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if you are going to put yourself in 50k of debt, you better be getting A's, no excuses
 
Startingover123 said:
Are u a recent grad of the program? If you are basing your opinion on years past then your statement is not really valid. Several have said on here that the linkage has gotten worse over the last several years. Lol ya if you don’t make it in you are 50 k plus in debt no biggie. Lastly, several people on here have said the program is very difficult and the fact that the tests have such few questions it’s hard to get A’s. Straight B’s will not look good for other medical schools.
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I think a pretty important concept has been left out of the past few BMS threads when it comes to the whole "tests have such few questions it's hard to get A's and Bs" ordeal.

I was part of the last BMS program (2017-2018) that took classes with the M1 class before CMS changed to a system-based approach. The BMS classes had to take the majority (but not all) of the M1 classes. The curve for each test was based on how the M1 students performed (which would always be curved to at least 80%). This gave BMS students a slight advantage for their exams, as they had a lighter course load than the M1 students but got to ride the M1 grade curve. Yes BMS students had to deal with a few bs classes M1 students didn't have to take (whatever online track you chose, TIPS, etc.), but it doesn't compare to the M1 course load that additionally included anatomy, ECR, histology, epidemiology, and other classes I can't think of off the top of my head. Yet, despite having a lesser course load than the M1 students, the BMS students would usually score the same or lower when it came to classes both BMS and M1 students had to take, because surprise surprise, not all BMS students are prepared or have developed the study strategies to handle even 75% of the M1 course load. This includes myself, as I was very close to receiving a C in CMCB.

The current BMS course load and exams are still based on the prior BMS course load and exams, which were just a lighter version of the M1 course load with the same exam. My point (and I know this is a very hard pill to swallow for some) is that if you are not able to achieve A's and B's in the BMS program, there is a good chance you would not have been able to succeed in medical school either. Of course, there are plenty of people that received a C early on, developed better study strategies, and were able to thrive in future course loads. Unfortunately for them, it was too late (and I agree this rule is pretty harsh). There are also people that get their *** together after getting rejected from BMS and are later accepted to MD or DO schools. Also, unless there has been some massive change I didn't hear about, the "one exam will kill you" is a little bit of an exaggeration. At least in the prior years, CMCB was the "great filter," which had 4 pretty difficult exams that were around 25-35 questions each (and all curved to 80%). If you tanked an exam (which I did), you still had three chances to raise your grade to a B.

One last thing: from my experience, medical students in large are a very supportive and helpful group of people, but are completely full of it when it comes to their own grades. There was a disproportionate amount of people from my class that seemed to say they had gotten "all A's and B's" yet were rejected from CMS, only to find out later from their friends or themselves that they had actually received a C in one of their classes. If I remember correctly, the BMS class before me had 30 people drop out after the completion of CMCB, which is months before you even get an interview from CMS, because a large portion of the class received a C. Yet my BMS class only had 2 people drop out after CMCB despite having to take the exact same class and exams. Some BMS classes were just stronger than others. Of course, the newer BMS class could have actually gotten shafted with more rejections from qualified students, that's not something I know much about. My problem is with the people in this thread complaining about how it's hard to get A's and B's.

TLDR: The BMS exams are based on the same exams first-year medical students have to take. If you are not able to achieve A's and B's in these classes, there is a decent chance you are not prepared for the workload that comes with medical school.
 
clutch100 said:
I think a pretty important concept has been left out of the past few BMS threads when it comes to the whole "tests have such few questions it's hard to get A's and Bs" ordeal.

I was part of the last BMS program (2017-2018) that took classes with the M1 class before CMS changed to a system-based approach. The BMS classes had to take the majority (but not all) of the M1 classes. The curve for each test was based on how the M1 students performed (which would always be curved to at least 80%). This gave BMS students a slight advantage for their exams, as they had a lighter course load than the M1 students but got to ride the M1 grade curve. Yes BMS students had to deal with a few bs classes M1 students didn't have to take (whatever online track you chose, TIPS, etc.), but it doesn't compare to the M1 course load that additionally included anatomy, ECR, histology, epidemiology, and other classes I can't think of off the top of my head. Yet, despite having a lesser course load than the M1 students, the BMS students would usually score the same or lower when it came to classes both BMS and M1 students had to take, because surprise surprise, not all BMS students are prepared or have developed the study strategies to handle even 75% of the M1 course load. This includes myself, as I was very close to receiving a C in CMCB.

The current BMS course load and exams are still based on the prior BMS course load and exams, which were just a lighter version of the M1 course load with the same exam. My point (and I know this is a very hard pill to swallow for some) is that if you are not able to achieve A's and B's in the BMS program, there is a good chance you would not have been able to succeed in medical school either. Of course, there are plenty of people that received a C early on, developed better study strategies, and were able to thrive in future course loads. Unfortunately for them, it was too late (and I agree this rule is pretty harsh). There are also people that get their *** together after getting rejected from BMS and are later accepted to MD or DO schools. Also, unless there has been some massive change I didn't hear about, the "one exam will kill you" is a little bit of an exaggeration. At least in the prior years, CMCB was the "great filter," which had 4 pretty difficult exams that were around 25-35 questions each (and all curved to 80%). If you tanked an exam (which I did), you still had three chances to raise your grade to a B.

One last thing: from my experience, medical students in large are a very supportive and helpful group of people, but are completely full of it when it comes to their own grades. There was a disproportionate amount of people from my class that seemed to say they had gotten "all A's and B's" yet were rejected from CMS, only to find out later from their friends or themselves that they had actually received a C in one of their classes. If I remember correctly, the BMS class before me had 30 people drop out after the completion of CMCB, which is months before you even get an interview from CMS, because a large portion of the class received a C. Yet my BMS class only had 2 people drop out after CMCB despite having to take the exact same class and exams. Some BMS classes were just stronger than others. Of course, the newer BMS class could have actually gotten shafted with more rejections from qualified students, that's not something I know much about. My problem is with the people in this thread complaining about how it's hard to get A's and B's.

TLDR: The BMS exams are based on the same exams first-year medical students have to take. If you are not able to achieve A's and B's in these classes, there is a decent chance you are not prepared for the workload that comes with medical school.
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You were grad before this program went to the crapper. Read the threads from last year. I have only heard bad things about this program.
 
Startingover123 said:
You were grad before this program went to the crapper. Read the threads from last year. I have only heard bad things about this program.
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I was in the class of 2020 and am now an M1 at CMS. I personally have had a positive experience at BMS. You can dig through my post history if you want my more detailed write up. BMS has it's fair share of problems, but I think for a certain subset of students it still offers a solid chance at an MD school. I talked to 2 current BMS students who were recently given a conditional A, and they seem decently content. I've also talked to some of my former BMS class, now M1s as well, and most mentioned that BMS was something of a necessary evil to get into med school. I'm not absolving the program of its flaws. You mentioned that you've only heard bad things about the program, well here's a positive post for you.
 
Westcoaststudent95 said:
I was in the class of 2020 and am now an M1 at CMS. I personally have had a positive experience at BMS. You can dig through my post history if you want my more detailed write up. BMS has it's fair share of problems, but I think for a certain subset of students it still offers a solid chance at an MD school. I talked to 2 current BMS students who were recently given a conditional A, and they seem decently content. I've also talked to some of my former BMS class, now M1s as well, and most mentioned that BMS was something of a necessary evil to get into med school. I'm not absolving the program of its flaws. You mentioned that you've only heard bad things about the program, well here's a positive post for you.
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What type of student is this program for? Do you know how the linkage turned out this year?
 
Startingover123 said:
What type of student is this program for? Do you know how the linkage turned out this year?
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I do not know the linkage turnaround for this year.

In my opinion, the BMS program is for students who had solid MCAT scores and are capable of developing a study method for hard science courses but happened to have a tough time in undergrad due to laziness or other factors. So good MCAT, bad GPA, but ready to improve. With the caveat that joining the program is a significant risk for the benefit of a possible MD acceptance rather than joining a much safer DO SMP that can guarantee you admission such as Nova DO CHPP or Touro NY's program(top 35 students get in according to here if you scroll down).
 
premedbedhead said:
Would you recommend this program?
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I know other people would disagree for me but personally, I grew so much as a student during this program and would recommend it to anyone who is up for the challenge. the courses were intense but I completely revamped the way I studied which has made me so much more confident going into medical school next year.
 
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