Salaries

[FrkyBgStok]

Honestly,

If you're worrying so much about how much money you're going to make and how people are going to think of you, you should probably reconsider a career in a place other then medicine. This field used to be genuine and it's because of selfish individuals who crave the money that people think medicine is a fallacy and full of fradulent people. In essence, it's due to selfishness that Doctors have to skirt around the system to actually go the extra mile and help their patients. Choosing to become a doctor should come first nature to you and so long as you have the ability to practice medicine in one way or another, that should be acceptable to you. I don't know a whole lot about the differing fields but it essentially sounds to me that a Doctor of Osteopathy and a Medical Doctor is the same thing. I'm sure you can specialize as a D.O. but not to the magnitude of a M.D. Correct me if I'm wrong but an M.D. can technically specialize in a wide variety of things. Regardless, you shouldn't worry about being either, they still essentially emulate the same quality of profession, that is sacrifice for compassion. You choose to become a doctor and rigorously study to ultimately help humanity persevere through malicious ailments sometimes we even put upon ourselves.

The reason I want to be a doctor is much like that of those who remain in the hospital and care less of a general hospital salary depending on where you go. I've lost a great deal of people in my life especially my mentors in my childhood and I don't think it's fair that we had such short warning. Although I wasn't brutally scarred emotionally, my family and friends were. They never recovered and I want to help those families prepare with the time they have left to help close ties with family members before they're taken so suddenly out of the world. Sure, realistically that's not always possible, but at least I can try.

and this post is so wrong it is makes me tingle. doctors don't skate around the system because they are greedy, they do it because if they don't they do everything for free. and if you are going to work for free and be glassy eyed because you are a doctor, than you are a fool.

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[JeetKuneDo]

Lol to the one that revived this thread.

 

[javajava]

How do you even find threads this old. The only way for you to find threads this old is if you yourself are searching up salaries!! Thus I dont think you are qualified to give moral lecture about about salaries when you yourself had to search up osteopathic salaries because you also wanted to know. h y p o c r i t i c a l.

 

[SFO-IST]

What are you an archaeologist?

 

[JeetKuneDo]

How do you even find threads this old. The only way for you to find threads this old is if you yourself are searching up salaries!! Thus I dont think you are qualified to give moral lecture about about salaries when you yourself had to search up osteopathic salaries because you also wanted to know. h y p o c r i t i c a l.

Hey, at least people are using the search function now. So we've won half the battle.

 

[SFO-IST]

Hey, at least people are using the search function now. So we've won half the battle.

very true.

 

[BenUstudent]

SDN.. A place to Bash on Thread revivers since 2007
Love it.

 

[JaggerPlate]

Honestly,

If you're worrying so much about how much money you're going to make and how people are going to think of you, you should probably reconsider a career in a place other then medicine. This field used to be genuine and it's because of selfish individuals who crave the money that people think medicine is a fallacy and full of fradulent people. In essence, it's due to selfishness that Doctors have to skirt around the system to actually go the extra mile and help their patients. Choosing to become a doctor should come first nature to you and so long as you have the ability to practice medicine in one way or another, that should be acceptable to you. I don't know a whole lot about the differing fields but it essentially sounds to me that a Doctor of Osteopathy and a Medical Doctor is the same thing. I'm sure you can specialize as a D.O. but not to the magnitude of a M.D. Correct me if I'm wrong but an M.D. can technically specialize in a wide variety of things. Regardless, you shouldn't worry about being either, they still essentially emulate the same quality of profession, that is sacrifice for compassion. You choose to become a doctor and rigorously study to ultimately help humanity persevere through malicious ailments sometimes we even put upon ourselves.

The reason I want to be a doctor is much like that of those who remain in the hospital and care less of a general hospital salary depending on where you go. I've lost a great deal of people in my life especially my mentors in my childhood and I don't think it's fair that we had such short warning. Although I wasn't brutally scarred emotionally, my family and friends were. They never recovered and I want to help those families prepare with the time they have left to help close ties with family members before they're taken so suddenly out of the world. Sure, realistically that's not always possible, but at least I can try.

1. One of the dumbest things I've read on SDN in a while

2. Your knowledge of the difference between DO/MD essentially sums up your knowledge of how this game works in general (and should be an indication to get off your soap box and STFU)

3. Despite the tingly feeling you get when you're watching House, or how badly you YEARN to walk into a grocery store after a shift and 'accidentally' forget to change out of your scrubs and remove the steth from around your neck ...

medicine is a job. It's a career, a position, a way to pay the bills, etc. It's a noble and fulfilling one, but it's not some ancient Jedi calling that is only handed down to the humble monks who can handle it. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Look back on this post in 20 years and let me know if you care more about saving the world and only entering the profession to serve others, or if you care more about paying for your kid's braces and getting 8 hours of sleep tonight.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

 

[Premed828]

JaggerPlate I think your my favorite poster on SDN. Always knowledgable and "real" at the same time!

 

[JeetKuneDo]

1. One of the dumbest things I've read on SDN in a while

2. Your knowledge of the difference between DO/MD essentially sums up your knowledge of how this game works in general (and should be an indication to get off your soap box and STFU)

3. Despite the tingly feeling you get when you're watching House, or how badly you YEARN to walk into a grocery store after a shift and 'accidentally' forget to change out of your scrubs and remove the steth from around your neck ...

medicine is a job. It's a career, a position, a way to pay the bills, etc. It's a noble and fulfilling one, but it's not some ancient Jedi calling that is only handed down to the humble monks who can handle it. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Look back on this post in 20 years and let me know if you care more about saving the world and only entering the profession to serve others, or if you care more about paying for your kid's braces and getting 8 hours of sleep tonight.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Lol, that's the best part.

 

[SFO-IST]

1. One of the dumbest things I've read on SDN in a while

2. Your knowledge of the difference between DO/MD essentially sums up your knowledge of how this game works in general (and should be an indication to get off your soap box and STFU)

3. Despite the tingly feeling you get when you're watching House, or how badly you YEARN to walk into a grocery store after a shift and 'accidentally' forget to change out of your scrubs and remove the steth from around your neck ...

medicine is a job. It's a career, a position, a way to pay the bills, etc. It's a noble and fulfilling one, but it's not some ancient Jedi calling that is only handed down to the humble monks who can handle it. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Look back on this post in 20 years and let me know if you care more about saving the world and only entering the profession to serve others, or if you care more about paying for your kid's braces and getting 8 hours of sleep tonight.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Agreed. Just ask the Nazis.

 

[dunaa]

1. One of the dumbest things I've read on SDN in a while

2. Your knowledge of the difference between DO/MD essentially sums up your knowledge of how this game works in general (and should be an indication to get off your soap box and STFU)

3. Despite the tingly feeling you get when you're watching House, or how badly you YEARN to walk into a grocery store after a shift and 'accidentally' forget to change out of your scrubs and remove the steth from around your neck ...

medicine is a job. It's a career, a position, a way to pay the bills, etc. It's a noble and fulfilling one, but it's not some ancient Jedi calling that is only handed down to the humble monks who can handle it. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Look back on this post in 20 years and let me know if you care more about saving the world and only entering the profession to serve others, or if you care more about paying for your kid's braces and getting 8 hours of sleep tonight.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Jagger (Mr. "For Real") at his/her usual best! You are one of the few reasons I still come to SDN! and DocEspana (Mr. Stats/ "Newschool sympathizer")!!

 

[NurWollen]

1. One of the dumbest things I've read on SDN in a while

2. Your knowledge of the difference between DO/MD essentially sums up your knowledge of how this game works in general (and should be an indication to get off your soap box and STFU)

3. Despite the tingly feeling you get when you're watching House, or how badly you YEARN to walk into a grocery store after a shift and 'accidentally' forget to change out of your scrubs and remove the steth from around your neck ...

medicine is a job. It's a career, a position, a way to pay the bills, etc. It's a noble and fulfilling one, but it's not some ancient Jedi calling that is only handed down to the humble monks who can handle it. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Look back on this post in 20 years and let me know if you care more about saving the world and only entering the profession to serve others, or if you care more about paying for your kid's braces and getting 8 hours of sleep tonight.

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Dang, I'm switching to accounting.

 

[DocEspana]

lmfao. the best part of the revival is the fact that they were making fun of someone else for a dead thread revival. epic.

What I will do to the next Zombie thread I see. (also note: I picked an image topical to medicine!)

 

[MLT2MT2DO]

One of your classmates on their surgery clerkship?

 

[DocEspana]

One of your classmates on their surgery clerkship?

"Surprisingly this was a rather slow day on the ER rotation"

 

[hello2]

(disclaimer: I am assuming you are a new member because you will be applying to schools this summer...if not, then you can ignore the first paragraph)

okay so having gone through a year of rejections, the only thing I was thinking through the second paragraph was: cliche personal statement, cliche personal statement, cliche personal statement! be careful about this stuff because it's very touchy and personal and you can easily get on the wrong side of an adcom member/interviewer if you use it as your main reason for choosing medicine when you have not really been DIRECTLY affected, and especially if your ECs do not support your claim to being passionate for medicine from an early age...I mean, if this is the case, I would do without the whole 'lost close friends/family members when I was younger and want to help people like them, even though I have not been directly impacted' thing. unless you've been DIRECTLY impacted, it only makes things worse...

however, I do agree with the point you made in the first paragraph, which is that money should not factor into why one wants to be a doctor; it only factors in when you have to answer to why you want be a doctor versus a volunteer medic, respiratory care specialist, nurse, physician assistant, etc. (of course, the better answer would be to say that being an MD/DO gives you autonomy in your practice and offers a number of specialties from which you can choose)

Honestly,

If you're worrying so much about how much money you're going to make and how people are going to think of you, you should probably reconsider a career in a place other then medicine. This field used to be genuine and it's because of selfish individuals who crave the money that people think medicine is a fallacy and full of fradulent people. In essence, it's due to selfishness that Doctors have to skirt around the system to actually go the extra mile and help their patients. Choosing to become a doctor should come first nature to you and so long as you have the ability to practice medicine in one way or another, that should be acceptable to you. I don't know a whole lot about the differing fields but it essentially sounds to me that a Doctor of Osteopathy and a Medical Doctor is the same thing. I'm sure you can specialize as a D.O. but not to the magnitude of a M.D. Correct me if I'm wrong but an M.D. can technically specialize in a wide variety of things. Regardless, you shouldn't worry about being either, they still essentially emulate the same quality of profession, that is sacrifice for compassion. You choose to become a doctor and rigorously study to ultimately help humanity persevere through malicious ailments sometimes we even put upon ourselves.

The reason I want to be a doctor is much like that of those who remain in the hospital and care less of a general hospital salary depending on where you go. I've lost a great deal of people in my life especially my mentors in my childhood and I don't think it's fair that we had such short warning. Although I wasn't brutally scarred emotionally, my family and friends were. They never recovered and I want to help those families prepare with the time they have left to help close ties with family members before they're taken so suddenly out of the world. Sure, realistically that's not always possible, but at least I can try.

 

[Mahliah]

 

[JeetKuneDo]

(disclaimer: I am assuming you are a new member because you will be applying to schools this summer...if not, then you can ignore the first paragraph)

okay so having gone through a year of rejections, the only thing I was thinking through the second paragraph was: cliche personal statement, cliche personal statement, cliche personal statement! be careful about this stuff because it's very touchy and personal and you can easily get on the wrong side of an adcom member/interviewer if you use it as your main reason for choosing medicine when you have not really been DIRECTLY affected, and especially if your ECs do not support your claim to being passionate for medicine from an early age...I mean, if this is the case, I would do without the whole 'lost close friends/family members when I was younger and want to help people like them, even though I have not been directly impacted' thing. unless you've been DIRECTLY impacted, it only makes things worse...

however, I do agree with the point you made in the first paragraph, which is that money should not factor into why one wants to be a doctor; it only factors in when you have to answer to why you want be a doctor versus a volunteer medic, respiratory care specialist, nurse, physician assistant, etc. (of course, the better answer would be to say that being an MD/DO gives you autonomy in your practice and offers a number of specialties from which you can choose)

Two things I noticed:

1) This thread is a little old, but I applaud the use of search function.

2) Your stats are pretty darn good, you will probably be accepted next time you decide to apply.

 

[DocEspana]

Two things I noticed:

1) This thread is a little old, but I applaud the use of search function.

2) Your stats are pretty darn good, you will probably be accepted next time you decide to apply.

I know they post them in public so they can be read, but I always feel a little creeper-ish when I read someone's MDApps profile.

Not that you're a creeper for doing it. Just sayin.

 

[ozzi22]

Thanks for the info Bill. Next ? what is an OMT?

 

[hello2]

Two things I noticed:

1) This thread is a little old, but I applaud the use of search function.

2) Your stats are pretty darn good, you will probably be accepted next time you decide to apply.

thanks. my main drawbacks were lack of health related experiences from an early stage, and applying to too many state schools other than my own state school. hopefully, I will manage to get some mo' love this time, like you say...and good luck to you too!

 

[NtDrBtWlTkaLook]

Ok, I see this is a dead thread, but Google is still taking people here, so:
As for the original question, I have spoken to several people, and found out that if you are going to be a D.O. just for the money, you are making the WRONG career choice. Yes, they can make good money. I found out about D.O.’s because one treated my uninsured mother after a bad car wreck. None of the doctors at the free clinic would touch her. He never collected a dime from her. He also drove a beat up old junker and lived in a small apartment. So much for fast cars and big bucks!

 

[JeetKuneDo]

Ok, I see this is a dead thread, but Google is still taking people here, so:
As for the original question, I have spoken to several people, and found out that if you are going to be a D.O. just for the money, you are making the WRONG career choice. Yes, they can make good money. I found out about D.O.’s because one treated my uninsured mother after a bad car wreck. None of the doctors at the free clinic would touch her. He never collected a dime from her. He also drove a beat up old junker and lived in a small apartment. So much for fast cars and big bucks!

Very Nigerian money wiring scam font you got going on there.

 

[VeeTeeHokies]

Very Nigerian money wiring scam font you got going on there.

I was waiting for somebody to post on this thread revival and that absolutely exceeded all expectations.

 

[MedicineMike]

Ok, I see this is a dead thread, but Google is still taking people here, so:
As for the original question, I have spoken to several people, and found out that if you are going to be a D.O. just for the money, you are making the WRONG career choice. Yes, they can make good money. I found out about D.O.’s because one treated my uninsured mother after a bad car wreck. None of the doctors at the free clinic would touch her. He never collected a dime from her. He also drove a beat up old junker and lived in a small apartment. So much for fast cars and big bucks!

I mean what is this? Revive 5 yr old thread with this comment ^^? I dont even know what to say....

 

[Prncssbuttercup]

This was actually revived a few times, once in March of this year, and again in May... this persons post was only a few days off, which is probably why google is still pulling it up

 

[JamesLMT]

Double necro!!!

 

[Phil Dunphy]

Ok, I see this is a dead thread, but Google is still taking people here, so:
As for the original question, I have spoken to several people, and found out that if you are going to be a D.O. just for the money, you are making the WRONG career choice. Yes, they can make good money. I found out about D.O.’s because one treated my uninsured mother after a bad car wreck. None of the doctors at the free clinic would touch her. He never collected a dime from her. He also drove a beat up old junker and lived in a small apartment. So much for fast cars and big bucks!

Trying to decipher your screen name - is that supposed to say "I'm Not a Doctor But Will Take a Look"?

 

[DocEspana]

Trying to decipher your screen name - is that supposed to say "I'm Not a Doctor But Will Take a Look"?

It means "just get in the stirrups and stop asking questions"

 

[KTownGT]

Ok, I see this is a dead thread, but Google is still taking people here, so:
As for the original question, I have spoken to several people, and found out that if you are going to be a D.O. just for the money, you are making the WRONG career choice. Yes, they can make good money. I found out about D.O.’s because one treated my uninsured mother after a bad car wreck. None of the doctors at the free clinic would touch her. He never collected a dime from her. He also drove a beat up old junker and lived in a small apartment. So much for fast cars and big bucks!

That just means he was an altruistic person; there are some MD's like that too.

Not all DO's are poor, give free/cheap service, or even care about seeing medicare patients.

 

[GetThePointe77]

Since this has been dragged up from so long ago...does anyone know where the OP ended up going?

 

[235788]

/sigh. I'm sure you'll hate your career. You'll make a lot more money opening fast food restaurants than you ever would as a doctor. Residents make 30-50k

 

[drctother]

/sigh. I'm sure you'll hate your career. You'll make a lot more money opening fast food restaurants than you ever would as a doctor. Residents make 30-50k

Ballin!!! Stoked to drive a Kia

 

[Telekinesis]

/sigh. I'm sure you'll hate your career. You'll make a lot more money opening fast food restaurants than you ever would as a doctor. Residents make 30-50k

When one has been living on student loans and grants 30-50k a year will seem like a lot lol

 

[DrLeon]

When one has been living on student loans and grants 30-50k a year will seem like a lot lol

As someone who has been living on 12-15k/yr I wholeheartedly second this statement. I think I will have hit the lottery when I see my first paycheck as a resident.

 

[Agent47]

Wow this is such an old thread...I was searching google for OMT physician's salary.I replied to this one back in 2007!!...I barely knew anything about D.O.! Now I'm in MSUCOM! Who knew....

 

[DocEspana]

 

[PurefighaUCD]

Don't worry, you'll make lots of money. You'll have that brand new sports car you've always wanted. You'll be able to impress plenty of people with your salary.

And the good news is, if the MD schools happen to see right through a douche bag like you, you can always slum it over to the DO side, because you'll make the same salary.

now thats a good way to put it

 

[MedPR]

bump

 

[HM3]

Yea the OP is such a douche because everyone knows doctors are completely selfless. And of course- listen to all the "go into another field for money", because its sooooo easy in the corporate world. The healthcare field isnt booming. Christ,there are some very nieve people on these forums.

 

[Buckeye(OH)]

I posted this in another thread, Ill post it here because it is a real, tangible number.

I am an ortho resident. I was offered 515k/year salary guarantee for three years with a 125k signing bonus at my home hospital.

I gather "Futureorthodoc" was looking for ortho salaries. BTW man, MD or DO, you still have to match into ortho. I'd worry about that first.

 

[MedPR]

I posted this in another thread, Ill post it here because it is a real, tangible number.

I am an ortho resident. I was offered 515k/year salary guarantee for three years with a 125k signing bonus at my home hospital.

I gather "Futureorthodoc" was looking for ortho salaries. BTW man, MD or DO, you still have to match into ortho. I'd worry about that first.

So you're a DO ortho resident? Also, can't you do general surgery then an ortho fellowship? That way you don't have to match into an ortho residency.

 

[Buckeye(OH)]

So you're a DO ortho resident? Also, can't you do general surgery then an ortho fellowship? That way you don't have to match into an ortho residency.

Yes. One month shy of PGY4.

No.

 

[MedPR]

Yes. One month shy of PGY4.

No.

I'm about 90% sure general surgeons can go into at least a hand fellowship.

 

[Buckeye(OH)]

I'm about 90% sure general surgeons can go into at least a hand fellowship.

That is true. That isn't what you said. That is also the only specialty where that is true. Also, is a plastics based hand fellowship, not an orthopaedic based fellowship.

So no, you cannot do sports med, joints, tumor, shoulder/elbow, peds, spine, foot and ankle.

 

[se20001984]

I know this has been asked before, but what are starting salaries for D.O?

have you even been accepted to medical school

ahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

 

[sdnAlterEgo]

I enjoy chaos. So I'm reviving this thread from its ancient tomb.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Let the bashing commence.



On an unrelated note, who can tell me how much worse DOs are than MDs at doing doctory stuff?

 

[Chillywilly]

have you even been accepted to medical school

ahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

DOs make $3.00 an hour and get paid lower than nurses and PAs

 

[BigGAC1]

I enjoy chaos. So I'm reviving this thread from its ancient tomb.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Let the bashing commence.



On an unrelated note, who can tell me how much worse DOs are than MDs at doing doctory stuff?

Congratulations, sir!!! You have officially used your first post to succesfully revive one of the most infamously hilarious and awful threads on SDN! Well done.:troll:


On an actually unrelated note, does anyone know what happened to the OP? Is this dude actually a Med Student now?