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alissa14 said:
Is vouching necessarily outing yourself as a seer or more so like you said, just that you have information. I did at one point kinda tongue-n-cheek implied it a couple times by saying “I’ll keep my eye on them”
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Not as a seer but that you have info
 
genny said:
I just want to be clear: I am trying to get elected captain for mechanics reasons. I would love it if someone else had the title, but my role specifically mentions additional benefits to being elected captain. If village wants to ignore that, then by all means, elect a captain with less mojo. I’m not going to make fake promises about post-game snacks; I’m talking actual benefits from my role if elected.
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This is why I voted genny

SARdoghandler said:
elect Genny

She is ballsy enough to pull this as a wolf but I have a pretty damn good record at reading her so I'm okay electing her
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This makes me more sus of genny this interaction

mypetmoose said:
Something I just wanna make clear real fast is that you don't have to vote someone just because someone else did/there's a bandwagon, etc.

Mayor vote/D1 can be a lot of silliness, but it still is a good idea to vote with some type of strategy/for someone you think is easy to read.

@alissa14 do you believe genny has reasons? If not, what made you change your vote?

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genny said:
I think I’ve said as much as I can thus far. You can either believe me or not.

But as someone who was recently elected mayor as a wolf, why the heck would I do that to myself again? That’s just begging for an early death.
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Hmm

BigCats said:
I actually think I remember reading a spreadsheet where there was a role that got extra benefits if elected mayor- I’m doing another spreadsheet hunt to see if I can find it but my initial search went through 2016 so it might take me a while lol. Not a vouch or statement of belief or anything, but I’m not going to discard it out of hand.
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Did anything come out of this?

CoffeeQuestionMark said:
There was additionally a chaos role that used being elected mayor toward win condition

Elect coffee? For safety
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Genny as chaos?

Wolfie<3 said:
This.... if she really is playing for village, the wolves now have their first target to off her ASAP if she's getting additional benefits as captain. (unless it gives her NK immunity or something)
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mizchiefmanaged said:
Generally speaking in these games if someone has a good reason for wanting to be mayor you just kinda go with it. Mayors are often looked into early on, so wolves are less likely to campaign hard for mayor.
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This is why I didn’t seer genny right away
 
alissa14 said:
Did anything come out of this?
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I looked through the first two or so pages of threads using the search term "mayor" and didn't find anything of interest in any of the spreadsheets. However, it could be that there were some threads without spreadsheets that included a role of some sort- I didn't do too much digging in a thread once I couldn't find a spreadsheet.
 
BigCats said:
I looked through the first two or so pages of threads using the search term "mayor" and didn't find anything of interest in any of the spreadsheets. However, it could be that there were some threads without spreadsheets that included a role of some sort- I didn't do too much digging in a thread once I couldn't find a spreadsheet.
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Look at most summerthelynx games. Many Docespana games. Rojo games. Inconsistently dyachei games.


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for now, ###lynch genny###

definitely subject to change. However, I do like the train of thoughts that Alissa listed above, does make one wonder if Genny is a wolf, with the mayor role being a nice cover--taking a chance with a noob being the seer, and not investigating early.
 
Navilly said:
This reads list has not sat right with me all game. The only reason she is not being voted is because of the whole Alissa thing. Going straight to Wondering is assuming Alissa is a wolf, and that Alissa would be silly enough to vouch for a wolf as her first seer target. Would have to do an Alissa lynch before going down the road of Wondering.


I am curious what your thought process was. Was it more that SAR was being set up? Or that they were intentionally killing those that were incorrect to make it seem like a set up?

I at least now know where all of your stuff is coming from, another mouth piece for Mel from being masons. I would honestly look back at the last..... like 15 games I played with Mel and watch how badly she reads me on almost every game with him.

Pushing towards Mel or Killer and away from Alissa. Quite interesting.

The whole wondering thing, which is also interesting.

So are you in the camp that Lupin is solid villager based on this?

And thoughts on this now?

and that doesn't look good on you. Switching off when SAR became a viable late game lynch.

What's frustrating is that, you are not wrong that I would change my gameplay, but also that once you get on me, you are hooked on me until endgame. Which is fair if you are usually correct on me. But less so when you are usually wrong.

"I don't have good reasons, or really any reasons to lynch him, but I am going to sheep my vote."

Going to change the list to the following: Wondering, Alissa, Killerleaf, Genny, Myself, MsP

Also I have been tunneled on SAR since day 2, but you are putting Lupin as a villager for that and me as a maybe? I am curious where that logic is coming from?

This is the contingency conversion that I have worked into a couple of games. The idea is that if wolves are getting swept they have an additional conversion that is available to them. If they are doing well, that conversion doesn't show up. But they are informed of that type of mechanism at the start of the game, it's not something that just gets added in willy nilly later on. If a team is getting destroyed with the current game set up, then they are getting destroyed.

I forget what this was about, oh well.

Hey pot, maybe you should talk to kettle about this? Did YOU get any notification of this? As Alissa is claiming to have seered you.

You are not pushing me hard right now? You're adorable.

Given that each of the wolves had pretty much admitted they were wolves prior to flips (after lynch close).... I am going to strongly disagree with this logic.

Putting the two people that have had a wolves card since day 2 at the top of your list is flabbergasting. Do you think me and lupin are both wolves? Also @mizchiefmanaged - do you think that with a me and lupin team, wolves would be royally F'ing this game up. And given that both me and lupin are both village reading each other, which very rarely happens because paranoia and all, should be saying something.
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Do you see a ****ing vote on you from me? Ok then. I’m not pushing hard.
 
Sunbodi said:
Bad list. Lupin and Nav were on SAR the entire time. Where's your explanation for BigC?

Adding me to the list is laughable.

At this point, I can't take anything you say seriously.
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What makes you think I give any ****s whatsoever about you or your opinion of my thoughts?
You have zero social clout on this forum to be making comments like this, you're doing good this game but don't let it go to your head youngblood because many good wolfhunters have rolled through here in their time and you don't hold a candle to them

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mizchiefmanaged said:
Just finished surgery 1, headed into surgery 2 out of 3 today. Does anyone have any strong feels on wondering?
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Alissa “seered” and said she is villager. Would be silly to go one step removed and go for wondering before Alissa. With that said, was strongest wolf read on my read through.


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With enchiladas done, I have decided not to reveal at this time. If lupin got any notifications on night 3, she would have an idea of what my ability does. And this is one where if she had an ability on night 3, I would be shocked if she didn’t get a notification.

Likely won’t be back until after lynch, at least not in a capacity where I can respond to more than 1-2 posts.
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Melchizedek said:
What makes you think I give any ****s whatsoever about you or your opinion of my thoughts?
You have zero social clout on this forum to be making comments like this, you're doing good this game but don't let it go to your head youngblood because many good wolfhunters have rolled through here in their time and you don't hold a candle to them

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Hmph!
 
Navilly said:
With enchiladas done, I have decided not to reveal at this time. If lupin got any notifications on night 3, she would have an idea of what my ability does. And this is one where if she had an ability on night 3, I would be shocked if she didn’t get a notification.

Likely won’t be back until after lynch, at least not in a capacity where I can respond to more than 1-2 posts.
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Tagging in hopes you will choose this as one of those posts lol

Has everyone forgotten the other reason we should have wondering as village? She was one of the deciding votes on the mutts lynch.

To me it only makes sense to me that she is a wolf if killer is too. And if she only makes sense to be a wolf if both killer and alissa are, then tbh, I'd rather look elsewhere.

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Poe: Navi, MsP, genny, killer (maybe)

That said, I think that the genny thing makes the most sense as a conversion.

I have a guess at the role Navi is gonna claim and I don't think its gonna change my mind. Would need to see its use... (that said, I wasn't targeted by it last night, which I find less incriminating at least)

@Melchizedek, what did you get as night results? (If anything)

Good converts: (once we make it through clearing the original POE we should look here)
Genny (it would be a good idea to get confirmation on her *wink *wink lizzo #1 on the list girlie)
***I retract my earlier statement about genny being cleared bc wolf her wouldn't be mayor without being an unseerable. An unseerable already flipped. Let's get confirmation now.***
Sunbodi (dude last lynch messed you up a lil for me)
Miz (placed some good votes that leaned me village on her post-rezz)

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a. those enchiladas look awesome. can you drop some by here? LOL (or share the recipe...)
b. I am not a wolf. I am as vanillaly vanilla villager as you can get. So vanilla, you think grandma's kitchen.
 
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mypetmoose said:
Poe: Navi, MsP, genny, killer (maybe)

That said, I think that the genny thing makes the most sense as a conversion.

I have a guess at the role Navi is gonna claim and I don't think its gonna change my mind. Would need to see its use... (that said, I wasn't targeted by it last night, which I find less incriminating at least)

@Melchizedek, what did you get as night results? (If anything)

Good converts: (once we make it through clearing the original POE we should look here)
Genny (it would be a good idea to get confirmation on her *wink *wink lizzo #1 on the list girlie)
***I retract my earlier statement about genny being cleared bc wolf her wouldn't be mayor without being an unseerable. An unseerable already flipped. Let's get confirmation now.***
Sunbodi (dude last lynch messed you up a lil for me)
Miz (placed some good votes that leaned me village on her post-rezz)

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I did not get night results

Re:genny
She is not a wolf unless wolves intentionally decided to lose a night kill
 
d5 water break! tally
lupin () -
nav (2) - mpm, bigcats
MsP (2) - sunbodi, alissa
genny (1) - killer
killer (1) - MsP

please check your votes!
voting: 6/14

deadline: ~4.5 hrs
 
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@Sunbodi

Thoughts on Alissa voting with you when you said you don't believe her claim and arguement for MsP over Nav.

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ziggyandjazzy said:
d5 water break! tally
lupin () -
nav (2) - mpm, bigcats
MsP (2) - sunbodi, alissa
killer (1) - MsP

please check your votes!
voting: 5/14

deadline: ~4.5 hrs
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pretty sure i had put a vote on genny? or am i dreaming?

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killerleaf said:
for now, ###lynch genny###

definitely subject to change. However, I do like the train of thoughts that Alissa listed above, does make one wonder if Genny is a wolf, with the mayor role being a nice cover--taking a chance with a noob being the seer, and not investigating early.
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i did!

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Ok so there are 13 of us.

1-2 left.

Rn its
12:1--L11:1--10:1--L9:1--8:1--L7:1--6:1--L5:1--4:1--L3:1--2:1--L1:1(6 mislynches max before lylo)
Or
11:2--L10:2--9:2--L8:2--7:2--L6:2--5:2--L4:2--3:2--L2:2 (5 mislynches max before lylo)

MsP
Killer
Genny???
Nav???

Pairs:
Nav/lupin (N3)not the killer... (I'm wrestling with this... I'd really like to know all of the details of night behavior...)
Wondering/Alissa ---potential clearance
Wondering/killer ---potential for partial clearance for wondering by village flip of killer (if killer flips wolf, I'd consider wondering next, or let it go bc of alissa... still working on this too...)
Mel/wolfie ---clearance

Me
Mel
Wolfie

Alissa
Wondering

Miz
Sunbodi
Bc
Lupin

Nav- not sure what to believe yet

Genny- claim bonus points for being mayor... would like peace of mind but I can't bc I'm uncomfortable now
Killer-
Msp- claim vanillager

@alissa14 (are they cleared as of the night you seer them or as of the night before or the night you put them on your list?) This would be good to know if you can get that info.

I'd also recommend nav be added to your list, along with genny, perhaps miz as well

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Okay. I'm fine lynching Killer now after reading all their posts. Weren't they the one who lynched BC "because of wwwinter"?

Unlynch Ms P
Lynch Killer

Also, Killer has not felt comfortable calling anyone a wolf.

I'm laughing because the people I saved from lynch D3 and D4 were both likely wolves (SAR and Killer). It looks like we would've been 4/4 even without my last minute CAPS spazzes haha.
 
Melchizedek said:
What makes you think I give any ****s whatsoever about you or your opinion of my thoughts?
You have zero social clout on this forum to be making comments like this, you're doing good this game but don't let it go to your head youngblood because many good wolfhunters have rolled through here in their time and you don't hold a candle to them

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"Youngblood" 🤣
 
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So now that we have figured out 4 wolves, do we know who chaos is? I still haven't figured out. Maybe genny because she's so quiet.
 
Sunbodi said:
So now that we have figured out 4 wolves, do we know who chaos is? I still haven't figured out. Maybe genny because she's so quiet.
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There aren't always chaos players. But if there isn't one in this game, I wouldn't be surprised if there was another wolf.

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Sunbodi said:
So now that we have figured out 4 wolves, do we know who chaos is? I still haven't figured out. Maybe genny because she's so quiet.
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1) there's not necessarily a chaos in every game
B) you haven't figured out 4 wolves yet
Porcupine) you don't know that there aren't more wolves
 
******lynch killer******

To get something in although at this point I want Nav to reveal because it sounds a lot like my role and I’m distrustful. I’m kinda over it.

If you guys think I’m an original that’s insane. I have been on every wolf vote I’ve been alive to vote on and was the tiebreaker in the second one, iirc. Humor me as a convert, sure, but if we’re convert hunting already that’s crap.
 
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