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Dr. ForgotToFlush said:
STARS
SNITCH
STARS
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But you hate doctors! I thought you'd be happy that I told someone not to mix you up with the likes of doctors.

mizchiefmanaged said:
The sunbodi thing feels overly trappy. Like very chaos win condition trappy and I’m not sure what to do about it.
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Same but it's also so wifom. Something ziggles said earlier about chaos makes me think she'd give them a cooler PR than 1 time tie breaker so sunbodi may be lying about her PR. One things for sure she's not village. She got 3 wolves which makes me think her PR had something to do with that. She really seems like she wants to die though. She's even joke voting.
Lupin21 said:
Too bad cubs got kilt. I bet he would have vigged her for us to solve that one.
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Dude was tryna save us

Lupin21 said:
MsP, would you lynch sunnyb today?
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I honestly have no idea about sunbodi. I was really hoping killer would flip wolf yesterday.
 
Sunbodi said:
Btw, killer was most definitely a wolf. Ask a certain sunbodi how I know.

Ever heard of the term janitor? 😛
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Sunbodi I think you have to step back and realize we don't know you in real life or know you that long. You are acting really strange. Maybe reread your posts because to me this just sounds crazy. I seriously don't believe Killer was a wolf. She posted after lynch close saying she was a villager. Just because you had intuition or think that she was a wolf doesn't mean she actually was. Maybe theres a janitor whatever. But you don't know that!


Sunbodi said:
Hey, I'll make it up to you :kiss: After we lynch killer and learn killer is a wolf you can lynch me just to feel safe, mmmkay? 😛 I know I'm not doing myself any favors by being erratic but this is how I play.
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Sunbodi said:
I am village, I am vi~~~iiillage.

Anyone that votes for me~~~

Is truly a woooof woof
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Also you literally said yesterday that if we lynch killer then you will allow us to lynch you. I don't really think that you are wolf but I don't think you are being that helpful with your posts right now.
 
I am done feigning being mad.

After going back I found our OG wolf.

It's Alissa.


1. @WonderingStudent
2. @BigCats
3. @Wolfie<3-CLAIMS MASON
4. @Sunbodi-OG VILLAGE
5. @killerleaf-OG VILLAGE
6. @genny
7. @mizchiefmanaged-OG VILLAGE
8. @Navilly
9. @mypetmoose-OG VILLAGE
10. @Melchizedek/Lawper-CLAIMS MASON
12. @muttmanager-WOLF
13. @Barkley13-WOLF
14. @alissa14
15. @Ms Procrastinator- OGVILLAGE (VOTED BARKS EARLY AND WAS SUS of bark early on)
18. @CoffeeQuestionMark-VILLAGE
19. @SARdoghandler-WOLF
20. @cubsrule4e-VILLAGE
21. @Lupin21


I had tunnel vision on Ms P for the longest time due to her play style but this just goes to show that play style means nothing after a certain point. We have to look at the pearls that the thread gives us

Now after filling in the above here would be the list I am unsure of

IDK
Wondering
BigCats- likely Og village
Genny- leans village
ALISSA
LUPIN- Most likely og village
Ms P- Og village

Let's take a look at wondering- Wondering would be an easy sell. They voted along with mutts after all to lynch cubs D2 and they have been fairly quiet. Their VCA is not looking good for them so they might be an OG wolf but I'm not as sold as Alissa partly because they were last vote on mutts and could've easily killed killer- a villager to save mutts the wolf.

BigCats- Has been very helpful the entire time. Had two wolves on them during D2 vote indicating likely OG village

Genny- Was one of the first votes on Barks. Might be a conversion candidate but I doubt an OG wolf.

Lupin- Had tunnel vision on SAR and was right about it. Has guessed my plays this entire game. Admitted early on that both me and Ms P have confusing play styles D1 and because of this we would be good lynch candidates. OG VIllage.


Ms P- Second vote on barks during the BC bandwagon. SAR and barks were both on the BC vote. Mutts was on cubs indicating the wolves knew BC was OG village and didn't want to lynch Barks. Ms P voted Barks therefore Ms P is OG village. Ms P also third to vote SAR. Ms P is OG village.

Unlynch Ms P
Lynch Alissa
 
MPM was told by Nav last night to check Alissa.

MPM found convincing evidence Alissa was wolf.

We did not lynch Alissa because seer is a bad role to lynch if true.

As a result MPM died.

Alissa did not make seer claim until night SAR dies.

SAR likely told Alissa to make seer claim.

They came up with a convincing story to say odd days only to buy up time. By then, Alissa would have killed many villagers and again- unlikely to be lynched because seer claim. This seer claim also gave her trust which she did not inherently deserve.

Somebody besides Alissa tell me why we should save Alissa who is most likely an OG wolf when we guessed 3 wolves before this fake seer claim.
 
Sunbodi said:
MPM was told by Nav last night to check Alissa.

MPM found convincing evidence Alissa was wolf.

We did not lynch Alissa because seer is a bad role to lynch if true.

As a result MPM died.

Alissa did not make seer claim until night SAR dies.

SAR likely told Alissa to make seer claim.

They came up with a convincing story to say odd days only to buy up time. By then, Alissa would have killed many villagers and again- unlikely to be lynched because seer claim. This seer claim also gave her trust which she did not inherently deserve.

Somebody besides Alissa tell me why we should save Alissa who is most likely an OG wolf when we guessed 3 wolves before this fake seer claim.
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If mpm thought that Alissa was a wolf, then he would have saved himself instead of her. Timing of Alissa's claim doesn't really prove much.
 
I am just... so confused about everything you’ve said today, to be perfectly honest with you. It sounds a little like you were spewing crazy wolf earlier and then your remaining packmate was like “STOP IT, PLAY VILLAGE” and now you’re trying to pretend like all of that was just a joke. So your best lynch option is someone who has claimed seer with no counterclaims against them? Really?? Are you sure you don’t just want us to lynch the seer and let you off scot-free?
 
Sunbodi said:
Btw, killer was most definitely a wolf. Ask a certain sunbodi how I know.

Ever heard of the term janitor? 😛
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Also this is just weird. Pray tell, how do you know killerleaf was actually a wolf when she claimed vanillager multiple times, including after lynch close? Are you sure you just can’t admit you were wrong (or wrong on purpose)?
 
Am I confused or am I wrong that Alissa said she gets results on even nights and tonight is n5?
 
WonderingStudent said:
If mpm thought that Alissa was a wolf, then he would have saved himself instead of her. Timing of Alissa's claim doesn't really prove much.
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I don't understand why y'all are suddenly so crazy about alissa. So she didn't seer me, who cares? Can we talk about this lazy killer lynch instead?
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MPM saved Alissa because MPM was confused and to add to this confusion Alissa begged MPM to heal her.
 
BigCats said:
Also this is just weird. Pray tell, how do you know killerleaf was actually a wolf when she claimed vanillager multiple times, including after lynch close? Are you sure you just can’t admit you were wrong (or wrong on purpose)?
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Killerleaf is not wolf and we learned that based on results last night.

I feigned being mad so that I would be a lynch target. I was then going to use VCA to determine actual wolf. The actual wolf likely wouldn't have voted me because I made myself appear as a jester and jester's often have revenge kills.

Tell me, do you actually think a wolf would speak the way I did last night and this morning?

Alissa is the OG werewolf.
 
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WonderingStudent said:
Am I confused or am I wrong that Alissa said she gets results on even nights and tonight is n5?
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Do tell, why does any of this matter?

You waiting on the results every other night means Alissa can wrack up 2 kills every time we "wait" on her.

She said she was sus of Genny. Why didn't she seer Genny then?

The reason is because she isn't a seer. She is the OG WW
 
Sunbodi said:
Killerleaf is not wolf and we learned that based on results last night.

I feigned being mad so that I would be a lynch target. I was then going to use VCA to determine actual wolf. The actual wolf likely wouldn't have voted me because I made myself appear as a jester and jester's often have revenge kills.

Tell me, do you actually think a wolf would speak the way I did last night and this morning?

Alissa is the OG werewolf.
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Yes I do think a wolf would have spoken you have spoken like a wolf. that doesn't mean you are one but you're not helping your case
 
WonderingStudent said:
Yes I do think a wolf would have spoken you have spoken like a wolf. that doesn't mean you are one but you're not helping your case
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I spoke like a wolf?

Lol- I the supposed resident wolf would say

"YAY WOLVES WE WON" before wolves win?

Tell me how this logic works at all. Unless you were a wolf conversion. You are number 2 on my list after Alissa. You're not making a good case for yourself.

What I do know is regardless of if you are conversion or not- Alissa is OG WW and she must be lynched.
 
alissa14 said:
So I am an even night seer. I can only seer in even nights. So far we’ve only had 2 nights. On N1, I had to give a list of targets. Here is my list and my notes with them. On night 5 (tonight) I can submit a new list. So I really hope I don’t die and can seer at least one more person. The list I plan to submit is a work in progress and may shuffle around depending on the discussion today.
  1. @WonderingStudent V - seered
  2. @mypetmoose V - seered
  3. @cubsrule4e V - mod confirmed upon death
  4. @Melchizedek/@Stagg786
  5. @genny
  6. @Sunbodi
  7. @Barkley13 W - mod confirmed upon death
  8. @Ms Procrastinator
  9. @muttmanager W - mod confirmed upon death
  10. @BigCats
  11. @mizchiefmanaged
  12. @Wolfie<3
  13. @Lupin21
  14. @Navilly
  15. @CoffeeQuestionMark V - mod confirmed upon death
  16. @SARdoghandler W - mod confirmed upon death
  17. @killerleaf
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Tonight is N6, N5 was last night (when alissa said she was submitting her list)
 
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Sunbodi said:
Yeah, we can figure out tomorrow if you're OG WW or not.

Wasting lynch because "annoying"?

Lol.

I'm done bickering with you.
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I'm *thinking* about it. That doesn't mean I'm actually going to do it. @Sunbodi maybe stop with the definite statements "This person is a wolf" and actually ask questions of people and get some evidence. This is supposed to be a conversation.
 
I, personally, am willing to kick the alissa can down the road for a little bit. What she’s claiming is a little strange but it seems to line up mechanistically, and I really would rather not lynch the seer based on a whim of arguably our most chaotic player.
 
Someone please remind me because it’s been a long week and something about this is bothering me: how did we figure out who the masons were again?
 
mizchiefmanaged said:
Someone please remind me because it’s been a long week and something about this is bothering me: how did we figure out who the masons were again?
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Mel vouched for Wolfie. Mel must be seer! Alissa vouched for two people. Jk, Alissa must be seer, and Mel and Wolfie must be masons since Mel only vouched for one person. At least, that was my thought process.
 
d6 Olé, Olé, Olé Lynch tally
MsP (2) - lupin, alissa
sunbodi (2) - lawper, bigcats
alissa (1) - sunbodi

voting: 5/11
Lynch close: ~6.5 hrs
 
BigCats said:
Mel vouched for Wolfie. Mel must be seer! Alissa vouched for two people. Jk, Alissa must be seer, and Mel and Wolfie must be masons since Mel only vouched for one person. At least, that was my thought process.
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That makes it seem as if she’s an ability seer.
 
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mizchiefmanaged said:
That makes it seem as if she’s an ability seer.
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Hmm, true. I didn’t think about that, tbh. I was thinking there would only be one village seer, but I suppose there could be others if they seered different things.
 
BigCats said:
Hmm, true. I didn’t think about that, tbh. I was thinking there would only be one village seer, but I suppose there could be others if they seered different things.
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I’m looking back and it doesn’t look like she claimed to seer Mel yet? I’m getting turned around.
 
mizchiefmanaged said:
I’m looking back and it doesn’t look like she claimed to seer Mel yet? I’m getting turned around.
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Yeah alissa only supposedly seered me and mpm. I would think that if Mel was counter claiming he would have said something
 
mizchiefmanaged said:
I’m looking back and it doesn’t look like she claimed to seer Mel yet? I’m getting turned around.
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Alissa vouched for Wondering and mpm. From that, I inferred seer status and assumed that there would only be one village seer, which would make Mel a mason instead (or I suppose potentially a wolf trying to claim seer but seeing how mpm protected him from a NK attempt, probably not). However, if there are multiple village seers, there might be an affiliation seer (alissa’s claim) as well as an ability seer.
 
BigCats said:
Alissa vouched for Wondering and mpm. From that, I inferred seer status and assumed that there would only be one village seer, which would make Mel a mason instead (or I suppose potentially a wolf trying to claim seer but seeing how mpm protected him from a NK attempt, probably not). However, if there are multiple village seers, there might be an affiliation seer (alissa’s claim) as well as an ability seer.
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GOT IT. So they are not confirmed masons and we’re just assuming, essentially?
 
WonderingStudent said:
This posts lines up with alissa's time line that they seered me night 2
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You had suspicion on you and because I knew you were village, I wanted to divert suspicion away from you and towards more likely candidates. I’m assuming you didn’t get a notification you were seered?
 
Just putting it out there, we can always decide not to kill someone for day lynch. I'm just not sure what avenue to go here with who to lynch
 
BigCats said:
Alissa vouched for Wondering and mpm. From that, I inferred seer status and assumed that there would only be one village seer, which would make Mel a mason instead (or I suppose potentially a wolf trying to claim seer but seeing how mpm protected him from a NK attempt, probably not). However, if there are multiple village seers, there might be an affiliation seer (alissa’s claim) as well as an ability seer.
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My thought since I’m an even night seer perhaps an odd night seer is out there
 
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alissa14 said:
You had suspicion on you and because I knew you were village, I wanted to divert suspicion away from you and towards more likely candidates. I’m assuming you didn’t get a notification you were seered?
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No I didn't. Did you submit this list night one?
 
WonderingStudent said:
Just putting it out there, we can always decide not to kill someone for day lynch. I'm just not sure what avenue to go here with who to lynch
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I agree with whoever said “I don’t want to touch sunbodi with a 10 foot pole” (I think it was miz). Curious to hear more from Nav or MsP today
 
WonderingStudent said:
No I didn't. Did you submit this list night one?
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Yes N1 I made a list. I didn’t have much to go off of other than what I knew of each player and the mayor vote. N2 I got my first result. You were seered as villager. N3 nothing. N4 came back as mpm seered as villager. N5 (last night) I submitted a new list. N6 (tonight) I get results of the first person on my new list.
 
I have no idea how anyone else feels but I’m starting to get fewer and fewer villager vibes from Sunbodi. It seems unlikely to me that if she was wolf, she would backstab all of her teammates like that. I’m leaning more towards some sort of third party role...
 
Wolfie <3 (can someone tag them, my phone won’t handle the <3 for whatever gosh darn reason) - can you verify 100% that Mel is villager or not wolf or whatever you need to do that doesn’t violate your role.
 
Sunbodi said:
Alissa did not make seer claim until night SAR dies.
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Yeah maybe I didn’t claim my role like you did right away because I didn’t want to be fed to the wolves! Ever thought of that? I didn’t want to risk sharing until I had at least two night results. I wanted to wait until night 6 but everyone became really suspicious of me and so I hinted at my roll to ease everyone’s minds.
 
Navilly said:
Wolfie <3 (can someone tag them, my phone won’t handle the <3 for whatever gosh darn reason) - can you verify 100% that Mel is villager or not wolf or whatever you need to do that doesn’t violate your role.
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mel was attacked. our dear departed protector confirmed that.
 
Sunbodi said:
Dw,

You will be saved!

Wolves will be NOT be able to kill you tonight. Just don't ask how I know.
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Sunbodi said:
Okay. Tbh I have no guarantee that you'll be saved. I just said that as a bluff so that wolves wouldn't target you but they might see through that bluff and try anyways and then I would look bad.
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what even is this? I just don’t understand this logic.. now I want to ask how you know.
Sunbodi said:
Wolves, we won.

They forgot to update their lynch LOL
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Honestly starting to think Sunbodi is a jester or something
Lupin21 said:
????
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I have mixed feeling on this. I can’t tell if Lupin is implying she’s a wolf and is confused sunbodi exposed herself. However, given that Lupin is a veteran, I HIGHLY doubt that is the case.
Sunbodi said:
Oh... whoops.
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It’s like she was TRYING to get caught
 
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