Stats of Applicants to Irish schools and Acceptance, Waitlist or Rejection

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Decided not to go to ireland for med. my friend just graded from rcsi and is having a very depressing time in canada and us trying to find a residency. Ive never seen my friend like this, i urge us north americans to give NA one more try. Trust me guys its not pretty.

 

[docs87]

Ive heard similar stories. Yea ive seen ppl from the hospital i work at who have a MD or equivalent not get residencies and work at their old jobs trying to pay off their loans.

 

[Vancity]

Its half way through July and I have still not heard back from UCC Dentistry. Last time I asked Atlantic Bridge was about 3 weeks and they said I was on the waitlist. How much longer am I expected to wait??

 

[Kweeny]

Did they tell you that you were 'on reserve?'

 

[Vancity]

ABP just said " you are waitlisted"

 

[Lbgem]

Its half way through July and I have still not heard back from UCC Dentistry. Last time I asked Atlantic Bridge was about 3 weeks and they said I was on the waitlist. How much longer am I expected to wait??

up to the first week of class - you can blame your prospective classmates for that. People that hold onto their acceptances and change their minds last minute are the reason you don't have a definite answer right now. It sucks, but that's the way it is.

 

[Kweeny]

Is anyone else still waiting to hear back? I havent heard anything from UCC as of yet...

 

[Vancity]

Yeah, Im still waiting for hear back from UCC dent. I think Aug 1 the fee's were due, so if people have not paid yet, then they will make more offers. You applied for Med or Dent??

 

[Kweeny]

I applied for medicine. Hopefully people will decide to go with other options! GL 🙂

 

[docs87]

Is anyone aware if the tuition deadline for trinity college?

 

[MadPride]

Is anyone aware if the tuition deadline for trinity college?

I had to pay mine by Aug 1st!

 

[docs87]

As respect to your peers please do not hold spots unless you are 100%. Ireland is not for everyone as Financial burdens and Residency/ internship uncertainties are a huge concern, and this stresser only gets worse. There are people who have the financial supports and are more flexible with residency waiting for seats. Thanks

 

[HKspeaks]

I'm from: Toronto
My country of citizenship is: Canada
Currently studying: Specialist in Human Biology
At this University: University of Toronto
My GPA is: ~2.7
My MCAT Scores were: Not Taken

I applied to: Trinity, NUIG, RCSI
I was accepted at:
I was waitlisted at:
I was rejected from:

My first choice school is: Trinity

I have applied to medical schools this many times: none, yet

Hello all,

I'm an UofT undergraduate student entering my fourth year. I had planned to take my MCAT this upcoming 2013 summer whilst applying for an Ultrasound program at Michener. This summer, though, my uncle informed me about medical schools in Ireland, and how I do not require an MCAT. Although I am very interested, I fear that I am not competitive enough to even be considered.

My cGPA is clearly not outstanding, and although Trinity+RCSI+NUIG claim that they do not require an MCAT for their 5 year program, I cannot help but wonder if there is a preference for the MCAT to be taken. Any thoughts?

My extracurriculars are okay; I am a research assistant for clinical and treatment protocol at the Hospital for Sick Children, I co-authored one medical paper, and I work as an EKG technician at a cardiovascular diseases centre. I have won provincial volunteering awards for my work at mental institutions and am active in school athletics, but these are about it. Would these extracurriculars be of any great use for me? My high school marks were in the mid-80's range, if that is relevant.

I am very interested in applying for medical school in Ireland, and understand the associated risks with going overseas. I just don't want to spend time and money for the application process if there is really no real hope for me to get in in the first place.

Any advice is appreciated! THANK YOU 😍

 

[Alexander III]

I'm from: Toronto
My country of citizenship is: Canada
Currently studying: Specialist in Human Biology
At this University: University of Toronto
My GPA is: ~2.7
My MCAT Scores were: Not Taken

I applied to: Trinity, NUIG, RCSI
I was accepted at:
I was waitlisted at:
I was rejected from:

My first choice school is: Trinity

I have applied to medical schools this many times: none, yet

Hello all,

I'm an UofT undergraduate student entering my fourth year. I had planned to take my MCAT this upcoming 2013 summer whilst applying for an Ultrasound program at Michener. This summer, though, my uncle informed me about medical schools in Ireland, and how I do not require an MCAT. Although I am very interested, I fear that I am not competitive enough to even be considered.

My cGPA is clearly not outstanding, and although Trinity+RCSI+NUIG claim that they do not require an MCAT for their 5 year program, I cannot help but wonder if there is a preference for the MCAT to be taken. Any thoughts?

My extracurriculars are okay; I am a research assistant for clinical and treatment protocol at the Hospital for Sick Children, I co-authored one medical paper, and I work as an EKG technician at a cardiovascular diseases centre. I have won provincial volunteering awards for my work at mental institutions and am active in school athletics, but these are about it. Would these extracurriculars be of any great use for me? My high school marks were in the mid-80's range, if that is relevant.

I am very interested in applying for medical school in Ireland, and understand the associated risks with going overseas. I just don't want to spend time and money for the application process if there is really no real hope for me to get in in the first place.

Any advice is appreciated! THANK YOU 😍

If you look back at the stats of the applicants who have been accepted a 2.7 is too low for programs that doesn't take MCAT, most have above 3.7-3.8. If you have your heart set on medical school in Ireland my advice would be to get your GPA up to at least a 3.4 and write the MCAT (32+) to make your stats competitive.

 

[HKspeaks]

If you look back at the stats of the applicants who have been accepted a 2.7 is too low for programs that doesn't take MCAT, most have above 3.7-3.8. If you have your heart set on medical school in Ireland my advice would be to get your GPA up to at least a 3.4 and write the MCAT (32+) to make your stats competitive.

Thank you for your response.
I agree with what you have said, I guess I was just hoping my extracurriculars would hold more weight over my cGPA, seeing that I read somewhere (possible Atlantic Bridge) that medical schools in Ireland do not hold much credit towards cGPA's due to a conversion processing.

 

[Vancity]

Is anyone applying for dental school for 2013 entry?

 

[callmesteveo]

3.6 GPA, Honors Biochemistry
28R MCAT (VR was a 6... Uh oh)

Great ECs, including hockey, research (2nd author paper), founder of NPO, and others.

Applying to all 6 medical schools, including the two 5 year programs

 

[Vancity]

Has everyone started sending in their applications?

 

[shweddies]

Sent it in a few days ago!

 

[Offline PK]

I'm from: New York

My country of citizenship is: USA/Republic of Ireland

Currently studying: Psychology, B.S.

At this University: State University of New York, Cortland

My GPA is: 3.38 current, ~ 3.45 estimated after graduation in December (cum laude)

My MCAT Scores were: Not Taken. Took 1 year gen chem, 1 year gen bio, stats, calc, lots of english, neuroscience, psychopharmacology and other science courses.

Extracurricular/Awards: 400 volunteer hours at community hospital, Internship in Psychiatry @ NY Presbyterian, 2x neuroscience studies author (1 likely to be published), inducted into tri-beta bio honor society, 3x dean's list, assisting blind professor in writing a book on cognitive linguistics and a few other things I listed on my CV


I applied to: Trinity, NUIG, RCSI (5 year programs)
I was accepted at:
I was waitlisted at:
I was rejected from:

My first choice school is: RCSI

I have applied to medical schools this many times: Once, as of last week.

Any one have any feedback for me?

 

[JohnSnow]

I'm from: Toronto
My country of citizenship is: Canada
Currently studying: Specialist in Human Biology
At this University: University of Toronto
My GPA is: ~2.7
My MCAT Scores were: Not Taken

I applied to: Trinity, NUIG, RCSI
I was accepted at:
I was waitlisted at:
I was rejected from:

My first choice school is: Trinity

I have applied to medical schools this many times: none, yet

Hello all,

I'm an UofT undergraduate student entering my fourth year. I had planned to take my MCAT this upcoming 2013 summer whilst applying for an Ultrasound program at Michener. This summer, though, my uncle informed me about medical schools in Ireland, and how I do not require an MCAT. Although I am very interested, I fear that I am not competitive enough to even be considered.

My cGPA is clearly not outstanding, and although Trinity+RCSI+NUIG claim that they do not require an MCAT for their 5 year program, I cannot help but wonder if there is a preference for the MCAT to be taken. Any thoughts?

My extracurriculars are okay; I am a research assistant for clinical and treatment protocol at the Hospital for Sick Children, I co-authored one medical paper, and I work as an EKG technician at a cardiovascular diseases centre. I have won provincial volunteering awards for my work at mental institutions and am active in school athletics, but these are about it. Would these extracurriculars be of any great use for me? My high school marks were in the mid-80's range, if that is relevant.

I am very interested in applying for medical school in Ireland, and understand the associated risks with going overseas. I just don't want to spend time and money for the application process if there is really no real hope for me to get in in the first place.

Any advice is appreciated! THANK YOU 😍

For the 5-year programs the main factor for admission is your GPA. As somebody else pointed out most of the people who report being accepted have a 3.6+ GPA.

It's my understanding that GPA is not a factor for the graduate entry programs. If you look back people have gotten accepted with a GPA in the mid-2s. However, you do need strong MCAT/GAMSAT score as that is the primary factor for acceptance.

Obviously the necessary MCAT score required for each school is going to be relative to the competition but you should be a competitive applicant with a 30+ MCAT. Some people have reported getting in with 28s & 29s but they're definitely a minority of the accepted students.

 

[aseg12]

I'm from: Ontario, Canada

My country of citizenship is: Canada

Currently studying: B.Sc of Nursing (BScN) in second year

At this University: University of Western Ontario

My GPA is: 3.83, sciences alone a 3.9GPA and 90% average in high school

My MCAT Scores were: N/A

Extracurricular/Awards: Youth mentor, volunteer tutor, high school student president, first year student council rep at Western, volunteer at hospital and community living, research assistant, hundreds of clinical hours through the Nursing program, volunteer dance teacher, volunteer at day camp, dean's list, principal's award of student leadership, several other awards in high school, played hockey, soccer, field hockey, etc...


I applied to: UCD, NUIG (6 year programs)
I was accepted at:
I was waitlisted at:
I was rejected from:

My first choice school is: UCD

I have applied to medical schools this many times: first time!

Rec letters were good.. would love any feedback from anyone 🙂

 

[SJLIM]

I'm from: Texas

My country of citizenship is: USA

Currently studying: Combined High School/First two years of university curriculum

At this University: Texas Academy of Mathematics and Science/University of North Texas

My GPA is: 3.91, will receive a high school diploma with 70 college semester hours. Will have university credits in Honors Biology, Honors Chemistry, Honors Physics, Political Science, US History, English, Pre-calculus, Cal I, Cal II, Organic chemistry, and Immunology by May 2013. No AP but SAT I composite score of 2180; SAT II: Biology 800, Chemistry 790, and Math II 780. UKCAT 3030, BMAT 5, 5.6, 3.5B

My MCAT Scores were: N/A

Extracurricular/Awards: Cancer research experience, US Congressional award for Youths, University President's list, more than 150 hours of clinical shadowing, and active in fundraising for cancer foundation.


I applied to: UCD, NUI Galway (5 year programs); interviewed at St Andrew's and Oxford both for medicine
I was accepted at:
I was waitlisted at:
I was rejected from:

My first choice school is: Oxford

I have applied to medical schools this many times: first time

 

[CuriousGee]

I'm from: Ontario

My country of citizenship is: Canada

Degrees: B.Sc in Biochemistry and a M.Sc. Neuroscience

At this University: McGill University

My GPA is: 2.96 cGPA (BSc) and 4.0 gGPA (MSc)

My MCAT Scores were: 34N ( VR 9 BS 13 PS 12)

Extracurricular/Awards: Volunteered in hospitals, taught English in Thailand, Co-author on 3 scientific journals and I am currently writing up my own paper. Head TA for first year McGill medical school course. Was elected into student government. Ran half-marathon.


I applied to: All Ireland-GEP programs
I was accepted at: RCSI
I was waitlisted at:
I was rejected from:

My first choice school is: RCSI

I have applied to medical schools this many times: first time

 

[Medstart108]

I'm from: New York

My country of citizenship is: USA/Republic of Ireland

Currently studying: Psychology, B.S. (bachelor's of science )

At this University: State University of New York, Cortland

My GPA is: 3.38 current, ~ 3.45 estimated after graduation in December (cum laude)

My MCAT Scores were: Not Taken. Took 1 year gen chem, 1 year gen bio, stats, calc, lots of english, neuroscience, psychopharmacology and other science courses.

Extracurricular/Awards: 400 volunteer hours at community hospital, Internship in Psychiatry @ NY Presbyterian, 2x neuroscience studies author (1 likely to be published), inducted into tri-beta bio honor society, 3x dean's list, assisting blind professor in writing a book on cognitive linguistics and a few other things I listed on my CV


I applied to: Trinity, NUIG, RCSI (5 year programs)
I was accepted at:
I was waitlisted at:
I was rejected from:

My first choice school is: RCSI

I have applied to medical schools this many times: Once, as of last week.

Any one have any feedback for me?

I think you could probably make it into U.S MD/DO programs as long as you score well on your MCAT. GPA is ok, but your ECs are excellent and imo take any U.S offer over any Ireland offer if you want to work in the U.S after you graduate. You are a good candidate for Irish schools as well. Study very hard for your MCAT, balls to the wall 🙂

 

[Medstart108]

I'm from: Texas

My country of citizenship is: USA

Currently studying: Combined High School/First two years of university curriculum

At this University: Texas Academy of Mathematics and Science/University of North Texas

My GPA is: 3.91, will receive a high school diploma with 70 college semester hours. Will have university credits in Honors Biology, Honors Chemistry, Honors Physics, Political Science, US History, English, Pre-calculus, Cal I, Cal II, Organic chemistry, and Immunology by May 2013. No AP but SAT I composite score of 2180; SAT II: Biology 800, Chemistry 790, and Math II 780. UKCAT 3030, BMAT 5, 5.6, 3.5B

My MCAT Scores were: N/A

Extracurricular/Awards: Cancer research experience, US Congressional award for Youths, University President's list, more than 150 hours of clinical shadowing, and active in fundraising for cancer foundation.


I applied to: UCD, NUI Galway (5 year programs); interviewed at St Andrew's and Oxford both for medicine
I was accepted at:
I was waitlisted at:
I was rejected from:

My first choice school is: Oxford

I have applied to medical schools this many times: first time

There is almost no way you won't get into UCD, NUIG or St. Andrews. For Oxford your interview is very important. Are you applying to U.S med schools?

 

[SJLIM]

 

[SJLIM]

There is almost no way you won't get into UCD, NUIG or St. Andrews. For Oxford your interview is very important. Are you applying to U.S med schools?

I have applied to a number of BS MD programs in the US but these programs are extremely competitive.

 

[Offline PK]

Thank you for your feedback 😀

 

[Medstart108]

I have applied to a number of BS MD programs in the US but these programs are extremely competitive.

I would still recommend a normal Bachelor's in the U.S over direct entry medicine overseas. Of course BS/MD or BA/MD is the most preferable.

 

[Medstart108]

I'm from: Ontario, Canada

My country of citizenship is: Canada

Currently studying: B.Sc of Nursing (BScN) in second year

At this University: University of Western Ontario

My GPA is: 3.83, sciences alone a 3.9GPA and 90% average in high school

My MCAT Scores were: N/A

Extracurricular/Awards: Youth mentor, volunteer tutor, high school student president, first year student council rep at Western, volunteer at hospital and community living, research assistant, hundreds of clinical hours through the Nursing program, volunteer dance teacher, volunteer at day camp, dean's list, principal's award of student leadership, several other awards in high school, played hockey, soccer, field hockey, etc...


I applied to: UCD, NUIG (6 year programs)
I was accepted at:
I was waitlisted at:
I was rejected from:

My first choice school is: UCD

I have applied to medical schools this many times: first time!

Rec letters were good.. would love any feedback from anyone 🙂

Are you applying to Canadian medical programs along with Ireland?

 

[aseg12]

Are you applying to Canadian medical programs along with Ireland?

I haven't applied to Canadian medical programs as I won't be graduating my program for a couple years. My dream has always been to practice medicine in Ireland to experience a different culture. A few of my professors recommended that I apply for the 6 year program before I graduate in hopes of getting accepted, but if not getting the experience of applying to med school and familiarizing myself with the process. So long story short, no I haven't! Even though I've spent many MANY hours researching the pros/cons to going to school abroad, ultimately I feel as though I'm best suited for this path and am hoping I get in for next fall 😳 ..any feedback on my stats is greatly appreciated!

Cheers, A

 

[Medstart108]

I haven't applied to Canadian medical programs as I won't be graduating my program for a couple years. My dream has always been to practice medicine in Ireland to experience a different culture. A few of my professors recommended that I apply for the 6 year program before I graduate in hopes of getting accepted, but if not getting the experience of applying to med school and familiarizing myself with the process. So long story short, no I haven't! Even though I've spent many MANY hours researching the pros/cons to going to school abroad, ultimately I feel as though I'm best suited for this path and am hoping I get in for next fall 😳 ..any feedback on my stats is greatly appreciated!

Cheers, A

I know that you've done research but just two pertinent points for you and also people who may read this

1. Ireland will be a lot more expensive (why not finish off undergrad then apply to ireland for a 4 year course? it will save money)
2. You will effectively limit yourself to less competitive specialties (FM, IM, Peds, Psych) so if you know thats what you want to do, you love the country and you are willing to pay then its a good option.

I strongly believe you have a very good chance at a irish school, but you may need to explain why you are in a nursing program and want to apply to medical school. I even feel you have a good shot at a canadian medical school.

 

[aseg12]

I know that you've done research but just two pertinent points for you and also people who may read this

1. Ireland will be a lot more expensive (why not finish off undergrad then apply to ireland for a 4 year course? it will save money)
2. You will effectively limit yourself to less competitive specialties (FM, IM, Peds, Psych) so if you know thats what you want to do, you love the country and you are willing to pay then its a good option.

I strongly believe you have a very good chance at a irish school, but you may need to explain why you are in a nursing program and want to apply to medical school. I even feel you have a good shot at a canadian medical school.

Thanks for the insight Medstart108. I'll definitely take into consideration. I'm actually hoping to get into FM or Peds, so to me that's not a limit that's what my ultimate goal is! But I definitely will continue to look into the options to see what's best suited for me.

Cheers, A

 

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[982jan]

I'm from: Ontario

My country of citizenship is: Canada

Degrees: B.Sc in Biochemistry and a M.Sc. Neuroscience

At this University: McGill University

My GPA is: 2.96 cGPA (BSc) and 4.0 gGPA (MSc)

My MCAT Scores were: 34N ( VR 9 BS 13 PS 12)

Extracurricular/Awards: Volunteered in hospitals, taught English in Thailand, Co-author on 3 scientific journals and I am currently writing up my own paper. Head TA for first year McGill medical school course. Was elected into student government. Ran half-marathon.


I applied to: All Ireland-GEP programs
I was accepted at:
I was waitlisted at:
I was rejected from:

My first choice school is:

I have applied to medical schools this many times: first time

My GPA is pretty low but hopefully some of my other credentials will off set the score. What do you guys think?

Hello,

I'm currently a first year GEM at UCC in Cork. From what I can tell, they mainly judged us on our MCAT mark for entry. I had an unusual academic background, and was accepted with a 32Q. Good luck!

 

[CuriousGee]

Hello,

I'm currently a first year GEM at UCC in Cork. From what I can tell, they mainly judged us on our MCAT mark for entry. I had an unusual academic background, and was accepted with a 32Q. Good luck!

Thanks for the info 982jan! That is encouraging to know they weigh the MCAT a little more than your GPA.

 

[Offline PK]

Hey all, hope you had a nice holiday and new year 🙂

Does anyone know when AB sends out applications? Around when we'll begin to receive news one way or the other?

 

[Vancity]

I think it depends for Medicine and Dentistry. Dentistry students usually find out by March and Medicine Students usually have interviews by Feb or March. So just a few more months!

 

[Vancity]

Are any Canadian or American students applying to Irish dental schools?

 

[Offline PK]

So how is everyone else taming their longing for some news? I've been reading an awful lot...

 

[SJLIM]

Rejected by Oxford after interview. Waiting for the decision after interview at St Andrew's. Going for interview at Boston University for the BA/MD program and Renssalaer/Albany Medical Center for the Physician Scientist BS/MD with Distinction in Research. So if I get an offer from NUI Galway and/or UCD, I will probably not take up the offer. 🙂

 

[Offline PK]

Have you considered the Sophie Davis program at City University?

 

[SJLIM]

No, only applied to seven BA/MD programs in this country. So far, not invited for interview at PSU/Jefferson and at UT San Antonio. Two interviews and three others (WUStL, Brown's, and UT Dallas/UT Southwestern) pending.

 

[Offline PK]

Does UCD have a 5-year program? AB informed me of only RCSI, NUIG and TCD as having 5 years. I have a bachelor's but no MCAT.

 

[SJLIM]

No, but AB informed me that it would most likely give me exemption from first year of the six-year program based on my credentials. I will graduate high school this summer with 70 college credit hours, including college biology, physics, chemistry, O-chem, and immunology.

 

[Medstart108]

I'm from: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
My country of citizenship is: Canada
Currently studying: Research Masters in Lab Medicine and Pathobiology
At this University: U of Toronto
My GPA is: 3.31 as U of T calculates it, though I'm not sure how Irish schools look at GPA, if anyone can tell me how they calculate it I would appreciate it (do they take the cGPA on the transcript or for ex. do they take all courses, even those that were listed as extra (non for credit), or apply a different grade conversion, etc)
My MCAT Scores were: Haven't taken it yet

I applied to: none yet
I was accepted at:
I was waitlisted at:
I was rejected from:

My first choice school is: Don't know

I have applied to medical schools this many times: 0

Hi guys my info is listed above. I know this has been done to death but I haven't found others with MSc degrees and I was wondering if anyone knows how to factor this in and tell me what my changes are for Irish Med Schools. My ECs are non existent right now but by the time I apply I'll have a lot of stuff (I'm starting a lot of things right now, shadowing, volunteering, etc/). I was also wondering if they have prerequisites like US schools do because I haven't been able to find this information (after a cursory glance). I was also wondering if they scrutinize specific first year science grades (like at least grade x in y) or if they take the cGPA as a whole. Basically I did poorly in my first years (D- in some classes even, like orgo chem, though it's an extra course), but my last years are worthy of even Canadian med schools (but I didn't have full course loads, so I don't qualify for special weighting that Can schools do). So I have a GPA that is in the middle, but with my Masters I don't know where that leaves me. What kind of chances do I have with Irish med schools? I know there's no MCAT to look at, but maybe you can tell me what I'd need with what I have already.

You need to do well on your MCAT and do well on your ECs. I've noticed a lot of people do very well on their masters degrees when they didn't in their undergrad. I don't know too much about the admissions process but my guess is they will care more about your recent grades and MCAT over 1st year stuff. They know people change and they won't hold lower marks against you.

However, the fact that you have no ECs to speak of is not very good. Even if you get ECs now, they might wonder how come you didn't have any previously. They do like to see a long term commitment (ECs done over many years) rather than just a short "i'm applying to med school, so i get some research and volunteer experience a year before i applied"

 

[shepherder88]

Does UCD have a 5-year program? AB informed me of only RCSI, NUIG and TCD as having 5 years. I have a bachelor's but no MCAT.

For any US citizen holding a Bachelor's degree that is applying, there is a strong preference on having an MCAT score even for the Trinity and NUIG five-year programs. Not having one yet holding a BA/BS will put you at a disadvantage despite the assurances from the ABP staff.

 

[Offline PK]

Thanks for the information. I've also applied to RCSI and have now also applied to UCD. How does RCSI approach those with no MCAT, but a degree?

 

[shepherder88]

Thanks for the information. I've also applied to RCSI and have now also applied to UCD. How does RCSI approach those with no MCAT, but a degree?

RCSI prefers to keep the five / six-year tracks open for those coming out of high school or have two years of college under their belt. I don't know of anyone with a BA/BS successfully matriculating into RCSI's five-year programme, which is ridiculous since being a graduate should be favored. It's probably worth your time to email the school's directly - the RCSI staff usually reply promptly.

I've stayed in touch with a few applicants from the past two application cycles who were unsuccessful and deeply disappointed with the lack of transparency regarding ABP and the application process. All of these applicants from years past were very similar to you: BA/BS holder, no MCAT, strong ECs and letters, healthcare work experience and US citizen. Some of them applied to NUI Galway and, around March, called the school only to learn that their application was never sent by ABP. Just be prepared to wait until summer. Anyways, I really do wish you luck!