Take the MCAT a third time and get into dream school?

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Has anyone taken the MCAT a third time and gotten into their dream school?

Or do you know of anyone who has?

Thanks.

An optimist/realist.
 
Has anyone taken the MCAT a third time and gotten into their dream school?

Or do you know of anyone who has?

Thanks.

An optimist/realist.


I would contact the school directly. To be honest, if it is a top-tier school this may not work because they have not problem getting students who obtain the necessary score the first or second time.

The rest of your application will also factor in. It will also depend on what school it is. This is why I suggest you contact them, directly.
 
Depends on your meaning of "dream school." Also depends on your first, second and third MCAT scores. also need GPA.

In other words, it is an unanswerable question without more data.

Example:

Dream school is Columbia.

Got a 26, 28 and 31.

GPA: 3.6.

answer: no
 
Has anyone taken the MCAT a third time and gotten into their dream school?

Or do you know of anyone who has?

Thanks.

An optimist/realist.

Not to be a downer...

But if you have already taken the test twice, you need to majorly change up your study method and have strong evidence that you will substantially improve your score before thinking about taking it again.
 
I would contact the school directly. To be honest, if it is a top-tier school this may not work because they have not problem getting students who obtain the necessary score the first or second time.

Is this based on actual data or is this just something you have heard?

The rest of your application will also factor in. It will also depend on what school it is. This is why I suggest you contact them, directly.

I interviewed at my dream school two years ago and I realized my MCAT score was lousy (VR is killing me). So I took the MCAT again and got 1point higher overall and the VR remained the same...I did not interview there this year around so I wanted to see people's opinions on the matter, I am hoping to try different things to see if I can solve the whole VR weakness.
 
so you didn't have any success in your first 2 cycles? That will make it somewhat harder to get in, given all the info we've heard so far.
 
Depends on your meaning of "dream school." Also depends on your first, second and third MCAT scores. also need GPA.

In other words, it is an unanswerable question without more data.

Example:

Dream school is Columbia.

Got a 26, 28 and 31.

GPA: 3.6.

answer: no

Undergrad: 3.96 SGPA/3.94OGPA
Grad: 4.0 SGPA

MCAT: practice exams higher than the actual thing by 6points consistently.

Oh, and I applaud you on a close yet not precise guess.
 
Undergrad:3.94SGPA/3.96OGPA
Grad:4.0OGPA

MCAT😛ractice tests>Actual test by 6-7 points.
 
Is this based on actual data or is this just something you have heard?



I interviewed at my dream school two years ago and I realized my MCAT score was lousy (VR is killing me). So I took the MCAT again and got 1point higher overall and the VR remained the same...I did not interview there this year around so I wanted to see people's opinions on the matter, I am hoping to try different things to see if I can solve the whole VR weakness.

I don't think that he/she was wrong in what they said. It's inferable from the available data on the AAMC website. On the average, retakers do not improve their MCAT score, and the average of retakers is considerably lower than the average for the MCAT. The median of MCAT scores at the "top tier" universities is considerably higher than the average for retakers, as well as the national average for matriculants in any given testing year. It's inferable that, on avearge, matriculants to "top tier" schools are more often first time test takers than retakers.
Of cousre there'll be issues with variability at the high and low end, the uncommon story of a person retaking and doing more than 2-3 pts better, etc.

And as others have said, it does depend on what your dream school is. If your dream school is in the top ten, then if you interviewed the first year, did not interview this year, then you should be realistic about your chances next year. If you do retake the MCAT, you have to be absolutely, 100% sure that your score will go up considerably. Not just one or two points (Depending on how low your VR was). Without specific information on your application, it's extremely hard for any of us to say.

All we can tell you is:

1) Taking the MCAT more than once or twice is usually a negative.
2) Retakers often do not do much better, but it is definitely possible to improve.
3) If you didn't get an interview there this year, but did last year, what changed?
 
I don't think that he/she was wrong in what they said. It's inferable from the available data on the AAMC website. On the average, retakers do not improve their MCAT score, and the average of retakers is considerably lower than the average for the MCAT. The median of MCAT scores at the "top tier" universities is considerably higher than the average for retakers, as well as the national average for matriculants in any given testing year. It's inferable that, on avearge, matriculants to "top tier" schools are more often first time test takers than retakers.
Of cousre there'll be issues with variability at the high and low end, the uncommon story of a person retaking and doing more than 2-3 pts better, etc.

And as others have said, it does depend on what your dream school is. If your dream school is in the top ten, then if you interviewed the first year, did not interview this year, then you should be realistic about your chances next year. If you do retake the MCAT, you have to be absolutely, 100% sure that your score will go up considerably. Not just one or two points (Depending on how low your VR was). Without specific information on your application, it's extremely hard for any of us to say.

All we can tell you is:

1) Taking the MCAT more than once or twice is usually a negative.
2) Retakers often do not do much better, but it is definitely possible to improve.
3) If you didn't get an interview there this year, but did last year, what changed?

I just want to know that my MCAT is not a life determining thing, if I have difficulty with a standardized exam now, who is to say I will not have difficulties with future standardized exams. I am determined to prove to myself before anyone else, that I can figure this out.

I guess I just needed to vent, that is all.

Thank you for the input, this thread can be closed if a mod is available.
 
I took my mcat 3 times and got into my Dream school! I am extremely blessed and thankful to have gotten in. I increased my score 6 points from my 2nd to my 3rd time. My dream school is Howard University College of Medicine and I am still in shock and floatingon cloud 81. I can't wait to start school.
 
I just want to know that my MCAT is not a life determining thing, if I have difficulty with a standardized exam now, who is to say I will not have difficulties with future standardized exams. I am determined to prove to myself before anyone else, that I can figure this out.

I guess I just needed to vent, that is all.

Thank you for the input, this thread can be closed if a mod is available.

It's not a life determining thing by any means, and you shouldn't let that deter you. I'm usually the poster boy to let people know that usually where there's a will, there's a way to get into medical school.

I took my mcat 3 times and got into my Dream school! I am extremely blessed and thankful to have gotten in. I increased my score 6 points from my 2nd to my 3rd time. My dream school is Howard University College of Medicine and I am still in shock and floatingon cloud 81. I can't wait to start school.

And then there are always stories of hope like this one. 🙂

I guess you just have to really look at your app and find a realistic view of where you stand, and act accordingly. 🙂 It may take you a lot of effort, but there is definitely a way to get where you want to be. The question is whether it will be worth it to do so. Good luck.
 
It's not a life determining thing by any means, and you shouldn't let that deter you. I'm usually the poster boy to let people know that usually where there's a will, there's a way to get into medical school.



And then there are always stories of hope like this one. 🙂

I guess you just have to really look at your app and find a realistic view of where you stand, and act accordingly. 🙂 It may take you a lot of effort, but there is definitely a way to get where you want to be. The question is whether it will be worth it to do so. Good luck.

Wow, I came here expecting to be ridiculed but then I read this. Thank you.👍

I will try to adopt your guide about the VR which I just read. I just had one question, do you feel it is best to practice on the computer or paper back exams since it is a CBT. I only have access to paperback stuff right now. It is probably a minor thing but I would like to see what you think.

@BlackDr2B, thanks for the inspiring story🙂
 
I too was an mcat 3 timer and got into my dream school as well as getting interviews/waitlists at several others.

A big improvement on your third test is a must I think.
 
I took the MCAT a third time during this application cycle and scored a late interview at my dream school, which I'm sure I would never have gotten otherwise. (For my story, see the 30+ thread.)

I don't know yet if I got in, but I should find out any day now. (God, I hope so ...:xf:)

I would second olemissbabydoc, though: you have to be SURE that you can significantly improve on that third take, otherwise it would be very dangerous to take it again. (Getting a similar score to the first 2 times, or--God forbid--lower, would make you look worse than before.)
 
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Undergrad: 3.96 SGPA/3.94OGPA
Grad: 4.0 SGPA

MCAT: practice exams higher than the actual thing by 6points consistently.

Oh, and I applaud you on a close yet not precise guess.


not with this attitude.
 
thunder, what happened in last cycle? did you only apply to your dream school and only determine to go there?

also, what are your MCAT scores (actual) and what are you practice scores? let us know so we can help you better.
 
I took my mcat 3 times and got into my Dream school! I am extremely blessed and thankful to have gotten in. I increased my score 6 points from my 2nd to my 3rd time.
So you got a 17 your second time taking it? 😱

You must have had great ECs.
 
I am in the process of getting in for this application cycle, and my test score jumped 8 points from my 1st-2nd.
 
To the OP (everyone else will feel like I'm :beat:):

I have a 3.96 cumulative / 3.95 science / 39 MCAT (1 take) with some publications and stuff, and I only applied to my dream schools. You'll see what I mean if you check out my mdapps. Don't make the same mistake I did; Sure, try for your dream school, but err on the side of underestimating your qualifications in general. A 3rd take, even if you get a 40, guarantees nothing.
 
Undergrad: 3.96 SGPA/3.94OGPA
Grad: 4.0 SGPA

MCAT: practice exams higher than the actual thing by 6points consistently.

Oh, and I applaud you on a close yet not precise guess.

Some people use cars as compensation, and some people...

Look, man, not everyone gets to be an astronaut.
 
How about voiding your MCAT score?

Under what situation can you void your MCAT score? I heard it was only once per yr?

And can you really only take the MCAT 3 times EVER? or just per yr?
 
How about voiding your MCAT score?

Under what situation can you void your MCAT score? I heard it was only once per yr?

And can you really only take the MCAT 3 times EVER? or just per yr?

You cannot void an MCAT score that you have already received. After you leave the exam room, your exam is scored, and will stay permanently on your MCAT recrod. You can only void an MCAT exam directly after you take the test. There is a screen that asks you if you want to void it. If you do, then no score is reported, and it looks like you never took the exam. You will never be able to find your score if you void because your exam will never be scored.

You can actually take the MCAT 3 times per year, but overall, as many time as you want. It used to be where you needed special permission to take it three times.
 
So you got a 17 your second time taking it? 😱

You must have had great ECs.

i was thinking the same thing 😱 probably a lot easier to go from a 17 to a 23 than say 25 -31. That said, I would be worried about the usmle step 1 if i got a 23.
 
i was thinking the same thing 😱 probably a lot easier to go from a 17 to a 23 than say 25 -31. That said, I would be worried about the usmle step 1 if i got a 23.

I am not worried about usmle step 1. I know that I will be ok. I am a different person/student than I was 2yrs ago when I took my last mcat. The Lord brought me this far and I trust Him to carry me all the way!
 
So you got a 17 your second time taking it? 😱

You must have had great ECs.

I did. I rushed into taking the exam. Didn't really know how to study for it. I thought I was doing what I needed to, but obviously I wasn't. I do have tons of great EC's, my life story, lots of ups and downs, huge academic turnaround, but lots of perseverance and FAITH! Plus, I did well my last 2 yrs of undergrad and in my postbacc.
 
Has anyone taken the MCAT a third time and gotten into their dream school?

Or do you know of anyone who has?

Thanks.

An optimist/realist.

Yes, absolutely possible. I did this.

24, 26, 36 on MCATs. Granted the first one was when it was still on paper and all day long. You can see from my MDApps page that I got into UNC Chapel Hill (top 20, I think - according to USNews). I also got into a few other schools and think I would have gotten into a few more, but I withdrew since I had no real desire to go to any of those other places.

However, I also was taking courses after college, got a 4.0 and then did the first semester of a post-bacc SMP program and got a 4.0. So, I think the increase in MCAT and increase in GPA combined to help me significantly.

The bottom line is it is absolutely possible. As long as you are making significant improvement on the MCAT. Remember (like some people above mentioned) that many schools will average your MCATs or take the highest scores, or take the middle scores, or just interpret the scores as they wish, it just completely depends on the school.
 
I am glad that this topic came up, as I was considering taking it for the 3rd time.

I took it the first time in Apr. 2006, and got a 31R. This was when they still had paper tests. I took it the next time in July 2008, as it was getting to be late for the 2006 score. I decided to retake it in a pinch, and managed to pull out a 32Q after about 6 weeks of studying.

I left thinking I could have done better, especially after reading about the work ethic of the crazy folks here on SDN.

I would offer the opinion that it wouldn't detrimental BUT IMPROVE THAT SCORE significantly! IE, don't take it again until you are scoring consistently in the high-30's range!
 
I am glad that this topic came up, as I was considering taking it for the 3rd time.

I took it the first time in Apr. 2006, and got a 31R. This was when they still had paper tests. I took it the next time in July 2008, as it was getting to be late for the 2006 score. I decided to retake it in a pinch, and managed to pull out a 32Q after about 6 weeks of studying.

I left thinking I could have done better, especially after reading about the work ethic of the crazy folks here on SDN.

I would offer the opinion that it wouldn't detrimental BUT IMPROVE THAT SCORE significantly! IE, don't take it again until you are scoring consistently in the high-30's range!

I think retaking with a 32 is a significant risk... That's just my opinion. If you think/are sure you can do better than a 1, 2 or even 3 point increase, then go for it! I would think that taking it and only going to a 34 (relative use of the word "only") would not look very good. Take my opinion for what it's worth though 🙂
 
I wouldn't take it again unless I had been consistently scoring 35+ on practice tests. The first two times that I took it I had rather horrible test prep.

To the OP -
I don't believe the third time MCAT would get you into your dream school. Provided it is good enough, it is the "other stuff" that matters.
 
I did. I rushed into taking the exam. Didn't really know how to study for it. I thought I was doing what I needed to, but obviously I wasn't. I do have tons of great EC's, my life story, lots of ups and downs, huge academic turnaround, but lots of perseverance and FAITH! Plus, I did well my last 2 yrs of undergrad and in my postbacc.
Good going!! Ignore all those arrogant/jealous people out there. I'm sure you'll do fine in med school. Keep the faith, it seems like there aren't enough people with it around here. I know that faith and prayer is what got me accepted.🙂
 
i already PMed the OP, but i just wanted to alert anyone who might be interested as to my history (as seen in my MDapps page). I took it 3x and improved in each successive administration. I eventually accepted an acceptance at Penn State 😀
 
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MCAT - April 2006 - PS: 9, VR: 7, BS: 10, W: R - paper-based
MCAT - August 2006 - PS: 9, VR: 7, BS: 12, W: S - paper-based

Applied to schools in 2007 cycle - result: no interviews
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MCAT - May 2008 - PS: 12, VR: 10, BS: 12, W: R - computer-based

See MDapps for current cycle results.
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OP, obviously taking the MCAT a 3rd time can help you. But as many others have said, you need to make sure that you can pull up your score my more than 1-2 points. Study hard and take numerous practice tests. If you feel confident that your score will improve dramatically, then go for it. Also remember that improved extra-curriculars can help your app. out too.

I feel like I have come very far since my last application cycle, and I am sure that you can too. Good luck! :luck:
 
I am not worried about usmle step 1. I know that I will be ok. I am a different person/student than I was 2yrs ago when I took my last mcat. The Lord brought me this far and I trust Him to carry me all the way!


It really scares me that you might go with this line of thought someday while treating a patient. "I don't really know whats wrong with patient X but I'm sure god wouldn't let me do anything wrong so..." It's all fine and good if you believe in a higher power but to expect that higher power to specifically carry you through situations is dangerous to you and the people around you, especially if you're a doctor.
 
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Or to think that God was somehow responsible for letting you get a good MCAT score. I have similar thoughts when I see somebody on TV who won the lottery and thanks God for their amazing fortune. Bottom line is that you're responsible for your own destiny in this world. I do not believe that God meddles in affairs of time and space given that He transcends them.

I mostly agree with you, in the sense that I don't expect God to solve any of my problems. I have faith I've been given everything I need to solve them (if they should even be solved) and that that His love is all I need. I think God's unconditional love is much more of a miracle than speaking in tongues or recovering from a near-death experiences.

But, everyone has their own belief in what/who/how God is (or isn't). Some people see God as someone who is intervening in their life on a daily basis. Some people think God doesn't do anything, and simply just watches us. Some think God is a Republican. Other's think He's a Democrat. And some think He's a She. Lastly, some think people who believe in God are crazy.

Everyone has a different personality, and I think God will express Himself differently to everyone. To each his own.

Personally, I'm not worried about those who thank God for what they have in life, such as BlackDr2B; I think he/she will be a wonderful physician. I’m worried about those who kill or commit atrocities in the name of God.

With all of this said, I think perhaps we're getting off topic of the original thread and should probably start a new thread if we want to continue this discussion 🙂
 
OP: I took the MCAT twice and got into my dream school 🙂

Good luck!
 
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