Texas schools

[sputnik22]

Hi guys, i just wanted to get a sense of how many of you here on SDN are going to Texas Med Schools next year and what you think about where you've been accepted. I am going to UT San Antonio, and I can't wait to start in July. Thanks.

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[Trek]

Unfortunately SDN is usually pretty sparse with Texans. That said, there are a handful of folks in/going to texas schools next year. Texans are probably the single luckiest demographic on earth when it comes to med school admissions :wink: --Trek

 

[mdmom]

sputnik,

Congrats on your acceptance! San Antonio is a beautiful place. I will be in Houston, a great climate for my (ahem) "naturally curly hair." UGH!

So many things went through my head when I got my letter:

Oh my God! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

Here we go!

Finally!

I have to move?

This is awesome!!!

Just to name a few.

See ya, good luck!

 

[sputnik22]

yea, i agree we're definetely lucky. Based on the application process, I doubt i'd have as much chance at out of state schools, but due to the fact that texas residents have a great advantage in texas public schools, i was admitted to the school of my choice. Still, such schools like Southwestern are extremely selective and their admissions criterion are very, very high.

 

[Papa Smurf]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by Trek:
•Unfortunately SDN is usually pretty sparse with Texans. That said, there are a handful of folks in/going to texas schools next year. Texans are probably the single luckiest demographic on earth when it comes to med school admissions :wink: --Trek•••••Gee... with like 1000 freaking seats in the state of Texas, I wonder why?? :wink: No, we're not jealous! Damn dude, throw the rest of us applicants a bone already. Sorry bro, Texas should not have 3 times as many seats as Florida and more spots than Cali overall. And while we're at it, Illinois has no business with 7 med schools either.

PS: Where you headed, Baylor fo shizzel? PM me if need be!

 

[Doctora Foxy]

I thought CA was the first most competitive, Texas the second and FL the third. Does anyone have that aamc link that shows this? Now I'm confused.

 

[mdmom]

I'd have to agree. The Texas Match was the only way to go for me. Plenty of interviews, and when it was all done, I knew where I'd be. I'm very happy.

I just love those little things.

 

[Papa Smurf]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by Doctora Foxy:
•I thought CA was the first most competitive, Texas the second and FL the third. Does anyone have that aamc link that shows this? Now I'm confused.•••••<a href="http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/famg22001a.htm" target="_blank">http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/famg22001a.htm</a>

If you look at the ratio of applicants to seats between those 3 states, then Cali is the toughest (4,093 applicants, 829 seats), then Fl (1353 applicants, 371 seats), and then Texas (2,528 applicants and 1,048 seats). Moral of the story is, if you wanna live somewhere sunny and still be able to get into med school, move to Texas! :wink:

 

[mdmom]

Amen to that Tiger!

 

[Jalby]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by Papa Smurf

If you look at the ratio of applicants to seats between those 3 states, then Cali is the toughest (4,093 applicants, 829 seats), then Fl (1353 applicants, 371 seats), and then Texas (2,528 applicants and 1,048 seats). Moral of the story is, if you wanna live somewhere sunny and still be able to get into med school, move to Texas! :wink: ••••One other advantage that Texas has is that all of the schools (except Baylor) are required to admit 90% Texan's. And even Baylor ends up being around 70-90%.

On the other hand, in California only UCI and UCD had numbers like that (around 98%).
Loma Linda is a Seventh Day Adventist school, so I would guess 50% california. UCLA, UCSF, and Stanford has little or no preference towards californian's.

 

[HanSolo]

Almost 1 out 2 Texan applicants gets into his/her in-state med schools?!! Boyz, I wish the UCs were that generous... but again, if they were, then they wouldnt be UCs :wink: Hail to the Lone Star state!! I'm jealous!!

 

[vyc]

wow San Antonio starts in july?!?!

craziness

 

[mdmom]

I believe San Antonio has some kind of H&P or basic physical exam class in July, like a jump start to the clinicals.

Houston starts Aug. 14.

 

[sputnik22]

yea, San Antonio has a clinical integration course that begins in July and lasts for 4 weeks, so that's why i am going early. its kinda sad that my summer is short, but i am excited nevertheless. you guys know of people going to San antonio, the school didn't give us a roster, so i am anxious to find out who my future classmates are.

 

[castaway]

Howdy, y'all. I just got back from my second look visit to Texas Tech. While Lubbock is tiny and not the most exciting place, Texas Tech medical center is huge. When I went for my interview, I did not see much of Tech's hospital and clinics. This time I took it upon myself to walk around the campus, and I really liked what I saw. I cannot wait to get started.

Talking about the number of medical seats in Texas, here's the latest: Texas is going to have more medical school slots--at Texas Tech. This year they accepted 130, instead of the usual 120. By 2004 they will be accepting 140, and continue to increase class size annually until they reach 200. (This increased was approved by the TX legislature in 2001). But even now, I think we Texans have a pretty good deal, as others have pointed out. What more can I say, except Yeeeeeeeeeeee-haw!

 

[MandM06]

Sputnik22 and mdmom CONGRATS on your acceptances !! It's great to see fellow SDNers going to texas schools. Maybe we will be able to take over SDN with all those seats we have in the lone star state Pretty soon everyone will sound like castaway :wink:
•••quote:•••Cali is the toughest ( 4,093 applicants, 829 seats) ••••<img border="0" alt="[Wowie]" title="" src="graemlins/wowie.gif" /> WHOA!! I didn't know it was that bad in Cali. It makes me more thankful to be a Texas resident.

 

[HanSolo]

Cali is the toughest ( 4,093 applicants, 829 seats) •••quote:••• ••••Actually, you have to take a good chunk out of that 869 slots because Stanford, USC and Loma Linda are private and have no real "love" for Cal applicants. So, in actualality, only ~ 500 slots are reserved for Cal applicants at the UC schools <img border="0" alt="[Pity]" title="" src="graemlins/pity.gif" />

 

[mdmom]

Man!! THAT is some rough stuff!! So, where do all of you 7500 or so people go?

Talk to me.

 

[mdmom]

OK so it's late, I meant 3500.

 

[bujji13]

Only 1,048 seats in TX? I thought it was more....

4 UT system schools (200*4) + Baylor (170) + Texas
Tech (130) + Texas A&M (90) = almost 1200?!??!

But Baylor's only 80% Texan, and the rest are 98% Texan, so I guess its more like 1150....
I think that's right....

In any case, yes, we TX residents are extremely
lucky. I think California should take a hint ...

 

[jwright76]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by castaway:
•Howdy, y'all. I just got back from my second look visit to Texas Tech. While Lubbock is tiny and not the most exciting place, Texas Tech medical center is huge. When I went for my interview, I did not see much of Tech's hospital and clinics. This time I took it upon myself to walk around the campus, and I really liked what I saw. I cannot wait to get started.
•••••castaway-

What did you think about the weekend? I got in late on friday because I missed my flight to Lubbock, so I didn't get to meet a whole lot of incoming students at the barbecue. Have you figured out where you're going to live? I went on the apartment hunt, and despite it being agonizingly long (4+ hours), I got a lot of good information. I thought it was a good weekend. I was a little worried coming in that I would regret choosing Tech, but I'm happier than ever that Lubbock is where I'll be for at least the next 2 years.

 

[CRS]

A&M takes between 64-68.

 

[psyche]

That AAMC chart lists state by state the number of residents attending an in-state medical school, not the total number of slots for first year medical students in that state. For MA, for instance, it lists matriculated students as 201, but there are 4 medical schools in MA and the number of available slots there must be at least twice that.

Nevertheless, the odds are heavily stacked against CA residents.

 

[sairules]

Can out-of-state students apply to any Texas medical schools? IF so, what are the chances? Are they dramatically cut in half just because we aren't a Texan?

 

[MandM06]

•••quote:••• Can out-of-state students apply to any Texas medical schools? IF so, what are the chances? Are they dramatically cut in half just because we aren't a Texan? ••••Yes, out-of-state students can apply. However, Texas has its own online application. You can check it out at:
<a href="http://dpweb1.dp.utexas.edu/mdac/homepage.htm" target="_blank">Texas Medical and Dental Schools Application Service</a>

As state previously in this thread, Texas schools only accept about 10% of its students in each incoming class from out-of-state. Since most of the Texas schools have an incoming class of 200, this is about 20 students. If anyone else has more exact numbers, please let me know.

I would recommend getting residency in Texas then applying (if possible) because your chances would dramatically increase and the in-state tuition is lower compared to some other states (BTW which state has the lowest in-state tuition?). Hope this helps.

 

[nartiad]

i'm a CA resident who applied to baylor, ut southwestern, houston, san antonio, and galveston--got an interview at southwestern and am now waitlisted...so turns out my luck was better with the UCs than the UTs. i don't recommend applying as an out-of-state applicant unless you have significant ties to the state

 

[HanSolo]

•••quote:••• Cali is the toughest ( 4,093 applicants, 829 seats)•••• •••quote:••• Man!! THAT is some rough stuff!! So, where do all of you 3500 or so people go?
••••To Texas, I hope

 

[Papa Smurf]

Hey, I was looking through the MSAR, and noticed something weird. UTSA interviews 200 out of staters, but only 8 matriculate? What gives? Why interview so many if you're going to accept so few? Seems like a huge waste of time and money on both sides. Anyone know? I was thinking of applying to some of these schools if I have to reapply, but now I dunno.

 

[time quaker]

Even though all the of schools are allowed upto 10% out of state, I believe that most of the schools don't have more than 5% out of state. I think UTMB and Houston have less than 10 out of staters in their class. I'm not sure I'd believe the MSAR numbers. I had the princeton review book which had strange numbers. It said that UTMB only interviews 5 out of staters a year and takes 1 or 2. I interviewed there and I somehow doubt that they interview SO few out of state people. UTSA actually accepts close to 10% I believe. I was accepted there as was another girl I know from out of state.

 

[Hopkins2010]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by time quaker:
•Even though all the of schools are allowed upto 10% out of state, I believe that most of the schools don't have more than 5% out of state. I think UTMB and Houston have less than 10 out of staters in their class. I'm not sure I'd believe the MSAR numbers. I had the princeton review book which had strange numbers. It said that UTMB only interviews 5 out of staters a year and takes 1 or 2. I interviewed there and I somehow doubt that they interview SO few out of state people. UTSA actually accepts close to 10% I believe. I was accepted there as was another girl I know from out of state.•••••I got accepted to UTMB as an out of stater. I think they definitely interview more than 5 out of staters. This year, they accepted 12 or 13 I think.

The UTMB matchlist is linked below:

<a href="http://www.utmb.edu/iutmbevents/som_list.asp" target="_blank">2002 UTMB match list web page</a>

 

[castaway]

Hey jwright76--

Glad you made it to Sp Training. I got in late also--Sat morning. Missed Fri night's event totally. Did you meet the Class of 2006? What did you think? An MS1 friend took me around to see apts, and I thought Sagewood was decent and affordable (like 430 for a 1br), and close to shops, restaurants, etc. Did you see any places you liked? I did not like places closer to campus (near the Loop), and places like AshtonBrook (I think that was the name) were out of my budget range. A 4 hr roadshow? Bet you found more than an abode!

I also missed the golf tournament. First chance I got to see class of 06 was Sat night at the party at the MS1's house. Were you there? I had a real good time. Some undergrads crashed the party and proved once and for all that wild parties are distictly possible in Lubbock!

Like you I left feeling reassured. The University Med Ctr is huge! I decided to take a walk around the place and got lost a dozen times.
I also noticed that they have a busy lifeflight.

One thing that made me nervous was watching the MS1's panic about their upcoming block exams. My friend was under stress the whole weekend, and a friend of his appeared the same way. I think that's one aspect of my med education at Tech we'll have to consider changing (hey, I hear Student Affairs is always receptive to complaints!!).

 

[MandM06]

•••quote:••• The UTMB matchlist is linked below:

2002 UTMB match list web page ••••Holy Crap!! I just saw one of my friends from elementary and middle school on there!!

 

[Peter Parker]

The UTMB Match List has only 2 out-of-staters who have done their undergrad and also live out-of-state. Also, all the out-of-staters seem to be from the states immediately surrounding Texas (LA, AR, OK).

 

[Hopkins2010]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by Erasmus:
•The UTMB Match List has only 2 out-of-staters who have done their undergrad and also live out-of-state. Also, all the out-of-staters seem to be from the states immediately surrounding Texas (LA, AR, OK).•••••Well, even if you went to college in TX but are from another state, I dont think they give you any brownie points for that outright. It has a section especially designated for state residency status, and its very explicit that you are not a TX resident just because you go to a TX school.

Now, my impression is that if you can give convincing reasons in the interview/essays about your ties to Texas, then that might help you somewhat. My point is that I dont think the admissions people are looking at somebody who is from out of state and who went to a TX college and say "well, he's not from TX but he goes to a TX school so we'll be easier on him"

And then there are a couple of people like me I'm sure who used their TX college address as their permanent address, so that their location is listed as TX on the match list even when they are not TX residents. At first when I saw that I thought they might have confused me as a Texan, but then I remembered that they have an extensive section on the application that you have to fill out if you are claiming TX residency and I know I checked the box that said 'non TX resident'

 

[time quaker]

Well in response to Baylor, I think that if you do go to school in Texas but you are not a resident, then they DO go a little bit easier on you. I am in that category and I spoke to my prehealth advisor and he mentioned that they certainly do look at that as a positive sign that you are interested in texas. It is afterall seen as a tie, maybe not as binding as other ties.

 

[Trek]

Dang! A girl i went to high school with (who went to brandeis it seems) is on that list too!!! CRAZY!!! --Trek

 

[jwright76]

castaway-

I didn't make it to the party because I was so exhausted after the golf tourney and the marathon apartment search. I did get to meet some members of the Class of 2006, and they all seem really nice. I was also real impressed with the MS1s and MS2s. Every student I talked to was real eager to give me advice on how to succeed at Tech.

As far as apartments go, I liked Hunter's Way and Oakridge. I also like Sagewood. My big sib lives there, and she really likes it. My main priority is washer and dryer connections in the apartment, so I'm focusing on the apartments that have those.

And after seeing the students at the barbecue on Friday night, I have no doubt that folks in Lubbock can party.

 

[gitmo]

Has anyone that is on any waitlists in Texas called the schools to ask about the list? (Like where they are on the list, when are some people going to hear, etc..)

 

[superdood68]

anyone here know how many out of staters ut houston takes off their waitlist?? i would love to go to school at the texas medical center...

 

[spacecadet]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by gitmo:
•Has anyone that is on any waitlists in Texas called the schools to ask about the list? (Like where they are on the list, when are some people going to hear, etc..)•••••Gitmo,

I have only talked to UTMB and they told me that there probably won't be any movement on the waitlist until June. They supposedly don't rank the alternate pool, so no information there. Also, last year they didn't take anyone from the alternate pool (she said that was a fluke though).

Don't know about any of the other schools.

 

[Doctora Foxy]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by Trek:
•Dang! A girl i went to high school with (who went to brandeis it seems) is on that list too!!! CRAZY!!! --Trek•••••Trek, are you talking about Shari or Rebecca on that list? Because I know Shari well.

 

[superdood68]

hehe, for u guys going to utmb... have fun!! i think about 8 of my classmates are going there... u'll have fun there =)

 

[PMPMD]

It's about time there was a Texas thread here. I was getting the impression that SDN was all California and Ivy-league people. I'll be going to UTHSCSA next year, so if anyone wants to get together this summer, let me know.

 

[MandM06]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by PatDaddy:
•It's about time there was a Texas thread here. I was getting the impression that SDN was all California and Ivy-league people. I'll be going to UTHSCSA next year, so if anyone wants to get together this summer, let me know.•••••Hey PatDaddy. I'm going to Southwestern but I'm all for a Texan prevelance on SDN (Yee-haw...oh, I'm sounding stereotypical ). As shown by some of the above posts, there are some people who want insights about Texas Medical schools and the application process (even though most that I've seen are from California <img border="0" alt="[Laughy]" title="" src="graemlins/laughy.gif" /> ).

 

[mdmom]

One more advantage for Texas schools, compared to alot of others, IT'S AFFORDABLE!!!

later.

 

[BigTex]

Hypothetically...if we were all so lucky as to get into both Baylor AND Southwestern...which would you choose? and why?....

Ive heard good and bad things about both ....
but as far as curriculum, which is better?
Baylor seems to be more traditional from what I have heard.

thanks

 

[Trek]

BigTex- quite a few people on this board were lucky enough to get to make that decision (BCM vs. UTSW). I think it's more of a question of fit and curicullum. Southwestern is definitely more traditional with an almost perfect 2 + 2. Baylor is traditional, but less so- they do 1.5 + 2.5 in the clinics. The training at both places (Parkland and TMC) is amazing. If it's your decision, i'd just go with where you "felt" better as there's no real difference between the two. --Trek

 

[Elysium]

I would just like to say that TX is great for applying to med school. I actually decided to move back here (I had lived/gone to school in Boston) so that I could apply this year (I was born in Galveston).

Personally, my 1st choice right now is UTMB, mostly because I was born in Galveston, have lots of family there, and my dad went to school there and loved it. Plus, my family lives in Clear Lake (close to NASA), which is only a 45 min drive away.

TO those that applied in TX: did you apply to all the schools or just some? I'm thinking about applying just to UTMB, UTSA, UT-Houston, TCOM, and A&M. I'm not too into Southwestern, even though it's nationally ranked. I think they prefer people with research backgrounds and with higher stats than mine...

Baylor is a crap shoot. Boy, I hate Houston, even though the med center is great. Also, they can afford to be pretty damn picky as well...

Boy this post is really rambling...

Anyway, one other thing: on the recent USNews ranking list, TCOM was ranked as a top 50 primary care school, beating out all the UTs. I thought that was kind of interesting.

Good luck to all the TX applicants this year (and last year!)

 

[Trek]

•••quote:•••Originally posted by Elysium:
•I would just like to say that TX is great for applying to med school. I actually decided to move back here (I had lived/gone to school in Boston) so that I could apply this year (I was born in Galveston).

Personally, my 1st choice right now is UTMB, mostly because I was born in Galveston, have lots of family there, and my dad went to school there and loved it. Plus, my family lives in Clear Lake (close to NASA), which is only a 45 min drive away.

TO those that applied in TX: did you apply to all the schools or just some? I'm thinking about applying just to UTMB, UTSA, UT-Houston, TCOM, and A&M. I'm not too into Southwestern, even though it's nationally ranked. I think they prefer people with research backgrounds and with higher stats than mine...

Baylor is a crap shoot. Boy, I hate Houston, even though the med center is great. Also, they can afford to be pretty damn picky as well...

Boy this post is really rambling...

Anyway, one other thing: on the recent USNews ranking list, TCOM was ranked as a top 50 primary care school, beating out all the UTs. I thought that was kind of interesting.

Good luck to all the TX applicants this year (and last year!)

•••••You're definitely right- TX rules in the admissions process. YOu can apply to any of the schools you want- all or just one. Personally i applied to only four- the places I could actually see myself (ie. big cities and med centers) and ruled out places like A&M, etc. Pick what you like- galveston is a great place and it's cool going to school on the beach! --Trek

 

[Trek]

And also (i maybe wrong about this)- but isn't the primary care rank more of a reflection of what percentage of the class goes into primary care? If so, that makes sense as TCOM has more non-trads and so on who are interested in primary care careers than specialties. At least that's what my friends at TCOM tell me --Trek