I'm trying to figure out at what point @LaineyLou went from feeling the ace wagon last night was sketchy to putting him in her wolf reads today, but SDN search is making me wanna
But I found this:
And then it went to this:
Her reasoning being his posts were sketchy, so why not wolf read him last night and vote for him then? Instead she waited until today
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What do you think of MsP's Ace vote last night?
The part where I get hung up is that she was the one who made the tie initially, so if they're both wolfing, she was either banking on merciful kaydubs or planning to pull her vote at the very last second because otherwise, that's such a huge risk to take. Since it didn't end up happening that way, I obviously can't put too much weight on it, but it's something I'm keeping in the back of my mind.
Hopefully will be at least partially done soon. I can give a quick list now if you guys would like?
The only reason I put this in here again is because it was a salt vote that was never changed, but because of this and because April's wagon was so close to being yeeted, this makes me pretty sure that they're not w/w. I don't think it would be good wolf play to bus someone in your pack so early on.
I'm reading Dina as village at this point despite the last minute vote switch to April, and I haven't gotten wolfy vibes from Vissy either.
This was agreeing with genny. But it also was agreeing with some points that genny made that I didn't disagree with either - and that's not setting off alarm bells to me because if you're wolfing well, you'd need to mix in some good solid village reads/points.
Said she didn't plan on keeping her vote on April but then did.
I thought this was an odd thing to give village credit for because it was a sarcastic joke that Cray made - it reminded me of something sunshine said earlier in the thread about a comment that I'd made and how she was giving me village points for that, and Cray called her out on it because the statement I'd made was not stupid (for once), but also wasn't something super profound and necessarily deserving of any special attention.
This turned out to be correct so although I don't know how I feel about her keeping her vote on April at this point just based on tone, I'm not holding it against her.
This is the first mention of being sus of sloth other than saying the lists were "kind of sus" earlier and then saying that's a sloth thing to do. It always gives me twinges when people say things like "I'm not in a pack with ____."
Oops.
This was literally exactly what was said in the last line of what she was responding to, so I'm not sure about the confusion here.
That's still a net loss for wolves though, seems relatively unlikely to me - much better to push the villager out...
| Acehunter123 | Alive | Suspected to be a wolf (Actually a really nooby villager) |
| Alleycat03 | Alive | Wolf |
| Animal Midwife | Killed | Villager |
| Aprilthearab | Alive | Wolf |
| Crayola227 | Alive | Undecided |
| Dinashadow | Alive | Villager |
| DrRoRo | Dead (Inactivity?) | Villager |
| Genny | Yeeted | Wolf |
| Kraskadva | Alive | Undecided |
| LaineyLou | Alive | Wolf |
| MS Procrastinator | Alive | Undecided (Wolf-lean) |
| PhilislothicalStudent | Yeeted | Villager |
| Sunshinefl | Alive | Villager |
| SuperShorty | Alive | Villager |
| Vetschoolsletmeinplease | Alive | Villager |
| Viscernable | Alive | Villager |
| Wildzoo | Killed | Villager |
| Zenge142 | Killed | Villager |
This does read as genuine to me. I know all this could be true and he could also be a wolf, but I think there are players I think it’s more urgent to yeet than Ace. Lainey for sure and maybe some others are above ace in my wolfreads. Also, Ace and other newbies, thanks for putting in the effort to learn a new game and I hope it’s fun even if it’s kinda overwhelming!
Working on the explanations, also thought it may help streamline the process if you guys could ask about specific people like you are doing now so I can prioritize the individuals of interest first. Responses for both questions coming shortly...
I'm not going to do all the work for you, buddy.
Ok I feel like I should apologize for this even though I think Ace is a wolf, but my bristling and snapping at him for comments that come across as low effort/anti-village play is my own problem, not his.
I feel bad suspecting someone for village-reading me after I just was misyeeted for it in muppets, but I really don’t trust these village points. After 4 calendar days the most notable thing I’ve done to you is being busy D2, and that’s enough to put me in your top 3 village reads?
It's ok. I do worry that my noobishness may make the game less enjoyable for you and the more experienced players and as such I am trying to adjust to your playstyles. Sorry for irritating you and potentially many others last night, as that was definitely not my intention. In addition, just for clarification, I am enjoying this game a lot.
I also greatly appreciate all of you for allowing me to play with you and bearing with me as I try to get a better understanding of this game.
This is an interesting point given that she didn't change her vote to Ace last night.
Just for the record, a bunch of us really haven't played much either (which is why we're probably cray's nightmare scenario right now). This is essentially my second game b/c I died on D1 of my actual second game. We are all learning together.
who do you think might be in Lainey's pack? from your post im inferring cray but also if you've said it before i apologize
Repeating that ISO gave me some real wolflet!shorty vibes going back through it and it's making me very uneasy.
This is much better to talk through your reasoning like this. 👍
going forward with the logic that comes from April being village in this post, how does it effect your other wolf reads?
difficult for you or her to avoid being yotten? i think its you but im a little bit confused
It makes me more concerned especially about Lainey, MsP, and potentially Alley as well. Concerned they are a pack at the moment but still working on things that could support this thought process
My mistake bad wording... Difficult for me to avoid getting myself yeeted
Not at all, we love new players! Most of us are new, too, from the December noob game. Think of us as the toddlers who love their baby brother but keep poking and prodding him because they are very confused by him and thrown off by not being the baby anymore
The interactions between you and AM make me concerned. The thought that you could have bussed Genny also seems to make a bit more sense the more I think about it. Honestly only starting to notice these things as I am more carefully reading through the earlier posts that I didn't think too much over originally. I've got a good feeling I will find more as I go...
Lol at “everyone got on my bandwagon”. You mean shorty doing an iso?
typically sus'ing someone because theyre sus'ing you isn't a solid strategy
Shorty's the worst, can confirm.
i've been thinking that a little bit too. even as the divided pack i think they might be, this is a bit far for that. ace has moved down my sus list this morning bc my main issues were tunneling with very little evidence and then saying weird stuff last night, but lainey has moved up and they're about tied right now in wolfyness, but im beginning to think it's more of an either/or than i previously thought.
he began to think it in the wallpost from last night, not just now
The scenario this makes me envision just kills me
I mean... it's not THAT far off from the noob game...The scenario this makes me envision just kills me
Villagers: this post is sus, do you have anything to say about it?
Wolf: please don’t think of me as sketchy. Thanks
Villagers: okay!
This was talking about the sloth vote. It didn't sit well with me at the time, feeling like there was some good evidence of sloth being wolfy. However, we now know that sloth was village, so I don't feel like this is as wolfy in retrospect as it was when it was made.
This came across as throwing a name at the wall and seeing if it would stick. I'm still reading Cray as village at this point.
SUUUUUUPER wolfy to worry about how your vote is perceived.
Not sure what he was hoping to accomplish with this question, but it seemed like a wolf taunting people to me (also a question with a super obvious answer).
This still doesn't sit right with me given when the vote was placed. My spreadsheet has made vote tracking really easy, and I knew when he did this - the way he phrased it is misleading.
So I have a question for @Acehunter123 at this point. At what point did you go from thinking that I was wolfy to thinking I was village - because in your reads today, you listed me as village, but I assume you weren't thinking that last night given this bit of snark. If you're actually village, getting into it with fellow villagers isn't a good strategy, so I'm just wondering at what point you changed your read of me (and why).
It doesn't really matter at this point, but Ace, I don't think I'll ever understand how you took my ISO of YOUR posts as a long defense of April lol
I assume that now, Ace has realized that I ISO plenty of people.
Here's where I started getting angry because there really was minimal wolfhunting effort coming from the same person who said this.
Okay, now - I still read this as wolfy. But, like earlier today, I have a hard time not reading this with a ton of salt because I was still so annoyed by the previous night's interactions. If I give him the benefit of the doubt more, I can see how this might be genuine and be the result of nearly getting yeeted last night. We all make mistakes in our play - heck, I got Sloth's read totally wrong - so.
This kind of came across as echo-ey to me and I really wasn't buying the whole "if I survive the night" thing for the reasons I mentioned in my response to his previous post. However, AFTER this, we see a difference in how Ace is interacting with others on the thread and how he's presenting his ideas (aka he's actually fleshing them out some, rather than just doing the "feels and vibes" thing), so I'm a little more inclined to believe it.
This is my concern as well. My previous approach was "We'll let her slide today, she might be mod-killed anyway" but after seeing that she is very capable of coming on within an hour of yeet vote to barely meet minimum, I'm definitely not banking on that anymore. Last night, she conveyed a surprising awareness of thread happenings which makes me think her late appearance is intentional. Especially given her track record per the vets.
Can confirm, the loud Russian contractors are obnoxious, I am baselessly blaming them for my Panera mac and cheese going missing this morning
Sometimes I think "What were the incredibly salty vets like as noobs?" and I feel like I've found my answer. I'm betting now that ten years down the road I'm going to be saying to the noobs "Remember, don't step on Shorty's toes if you want to live. Have fun!"
Perhaps she stayed on Sloth because she felt Sloth might redeem themselves in the next cycle, whereas Ace was more likely to keep digging his own hole and thus be an easier misyeet the next cycle, following the assumption that Lainey is wolf and Ace is village. Saying that during that night's yeet while staying on Sloth might have been setting up the "Well Sloth's not a wolf, so let's go for Ace's head next!" contingency votes.
yeet them. panera mac and cheese needs avenge
