Things I Learn From My Patients

[khereva]

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Bear. Bare means naked or lacking the normal furnishings.

To be fair (fare? 😉 ) it sounds like the patient was indeed partly naked, and apparently lacking many of the normal furnishings (brains foremost among them).

Incidentally, as my wife's snicked pinky tendon has mostly healed, due in no small part to good care from the ER in our town, and as I appreciate that, and having read the wonderful "bring pizza" anecdote mumble-mumble pages back, I had an idea that I wanted to sound out to you guys. If I went to the ER one night to order (yes, and pay for) pizzas for the good folks there, would you say they would like that, or would it interfere with their evening, or would it just be creepy/dumb?

 

[Taaki]

To be fair (fare? 😉 ) it sounds like the patient was indeed partly naked, and apparently lacking many of the normal furnishings (brains foremost among them).

Incidentally, as my wife's snicked pinky tendon has mostly healed, due in no small part to good care from the ER in our town, and as I appreciate that, and having read the wonderful "bring pizza" anecdote mumble-mumble pages back, I had an idea that I wanted to sound out to you guys. If I went to the ER one night to order (yes, and pay for) pizzas for the good folks there, would you say they would like that, or would it interfere with their evening, or would it just be creepy/dumb?

I believe they would like that very much, especially if you included a thank you card 👍
The only interference it would cause would be the staff tripping over each other to get to the pizzas, but don't worry, if they injure each other, they are in the right place 😉

 

[DropkickMurphy]

We had a patient who was gored by an bull who we transported to the ED. He went home (several days later), shot the bull in the head, had it butchered and "donated it" to the ED staff and ambulance crew. Some of the best steaks I've ever had. 👍 So yes, we would appreciate any thanks you offer. We don't hear them very often.

 

[Chronic Student]

That's funny as hell DKM!

-Mike

 

[DropkickMurphy]

Yeah.....that's the one thing about working for a small town's VFD....people tend to bring you things as a way of saying thanks for the help. We had a guy who we treated for a massive coronary, he brought us all homemade sausage. Granted, stop and think about the fat content of sausage and you will see the irony in that one.....

 

[skoriaan]

Finished. 45 pages of hilarity, with the occasional morbid sadness or trolling comment tossed in.

I'm not medical. My medical background, outside of being a "pt" includes working in the activities department of a state run medical care facility(Read: Nursing home for the elderly and disabled), and serving as a fake injury in a fake disaster prep. activity--I'm in the Air Force. Quite fun. I had shrapnal in my ab. that had punctured through to the backside.

I saw some...odd things, although there was usually a lack of gore, in the nursing facility. I only personally, saw one person Code, and watched as she was rushed through the hallways, to get her to a hospital.

But, back to the odd. There was an elderly lady, whom spoke only spanish. At one time, she was a dancer. She now had alcohol induced demensia. I went around a corner, to check on the cat that lived in the hallway, and make sure he had food, water, and a clean litter box. I found his litterbox was not clean, as this very nice woman, had pulled down her bottoms, and done her duties, all over the box...chair...floor. She then sat down in the chair(and her mess), and was relaxing. This was one of the many times I was pleased to have been told on day one, "If it's liquid, and you didn't pour it, don't touch it. Call the nurses."

On a slightly seperate note, I'm a reader. I almost always have a book somewhere close to me. My car, my bag, my coat. For the times that I've had to go to the emergency room--which has happened a number of times, some to my own stupidity, others to general quickly emegering illiness--I Find that if I have a shirt, and a book, I'm fine. A book to read, for whatever the wait, and a shirt, to use as a pillow, in case I finish the book, or cannot focus on the words. Sitting quietly in a chair, I tend to keep to myself, until my name is called. I know that if I start to die, I'll fall out of the chair, and someone will come running. And if I don't, well, I won't realize it until it's too late!

I've only been to the ER oh...6 times. Never a bad experince yet.

Cheers.
~M

 

[docB]

--I Find that if I have a shirt, and a book, I'm fine.

That's a good point. I'd say that arriving to the ER shirtless is a predictor of badness. Those arriving shirtless usually had it cut off enroute or are the sort who just doesn't wear shirts which is also bad.

 

[DropkickMurphy]

Those arriving shirtless usually had it cut off enroute or are the sort who just doesn't wear shirts which is also bad.

One of our former medical director's rules: If they are a trauma alert and if they have clothes on when you come through the door, prepare to assume the position at audit and review.

 

[Taaki]

In my early days of my medical career I worked as a CNA in a Nursing Home. Very different from the ED, but a great place to learn the basics of human care.

On this particular day I learned that not all patients lack a sense of humor.

There was this one resident, who we'll call Charlie (not his real name), who was unable to do ANY of his DLA (daily living activities). Now DLA's consist of feeding yourself, walking, wiping, etc. so we had to do everything for this patient. I was assigned to the wing where Charlie resides one night, and was responsible for getting him ready for bed. Charlie is like 6'5" and weighs a tremendous amount, he also wears Depends (adult diapers). Luckily, during your first few days, they pair you with another CNA to help get the residents accustomed to you and vice versa. So off we go....... into Charlie's room. We get him out of bed using the Hoyer, a special lift that suspends the resident/patient in the air so you can get to their more, um, private regions. So there hangs Charlie, completely exposed, waiting for me to get to work. I crouch down, wash clothe and basin of warm water at the ready. I begin my task, while the other CNA waits. The male body may not be as complex as their female counterpart, but there are still some very important details that you have to remember. Such as pulling the foreskin back, cleaning the area, and then replacing the foreskin to its original position. If you don't put the foreskin back it will act as a rubberband and cause some serious damage. Many of the men in this facility are not circumsized, not something that is listed in their charts, but something you figure out while doing their personal tasks. So there I am, gently cleaning, well, um, everything. I finish, and attempt to replace Charlie's foreskin back into its proper position. I say attempt because it didn't want to go back. I kept trying and trying and trying. I am now sweating profusely, worried that I will never get this thing back. I finally look to my partner for help, she gets a HUGE smile on her face. Older men, it seems, will retract, making it look as if they have not been circumsized. K, news to me. So here I have pulling on Charlie's pride forever attempting to put a foreskin back that didn't exist. I am now red from head to toe, completely humiliated. Did I mention that Charlie didn't speak very often? Anyways, we get him back into bed, tuck him in for the night and start to sneak out of the room. This is when Charlie decides to utter his first phrase to me................. "Darlin, you can clean me up every night" The other CNA barely made it out of the room she was laughing so hard.

 

[lilmissangel]

I just finished reading all 45 pages. I can't believe its done!!! 🙁 Took me a while since I've mostly been reading it at work in between registering patients in the ED.
I also discovered 'Emergency', by Mark Brown through this thread and finished it in two afternoons. I thoroughly enjoyed it but it made me question whether I really wanted to go into EM....

I've personally had some interesting patients to register. Nowhere near as interesting as most of the ones on here since I work in a small non-trauma ER.
One lady came in complaining of feeling tingly and hot all over her body (prob allergic reaction). Since she had been brought in by ambulance from the airport she had a bunch of luggage with her in the room.
Anyway, madam seems slightly eccentric and is getting more worked up and anxious by the minute. She has an IV in her that keeps pulling (a lot!) as she paces up and down trying to look out of the door to see if her fiance is here yet. Her mumbling and pacing accelerates as I'm trying to get her address and ins info, and finally she starts repeating 'baby, we're gonna be OK'. At this point I freak and leave the room and let the nurses know that they should prob send someone in to see her as shes talking to herself.
Later I find out that she wasnt psycho and was talking to her little dog that was in one of the doggie bags. (Didnt see or hear a dog entire time I was in there). Just goes to show you shouldnt jump to conclusions.

And this one I didnt see, but one of my co-workers said that one weekend night two gentlemen were brought in by ambulance, on ONE stretcher, one apparently 'stuck' on top of the other. There was a sheet covering them so she didnt see anything, but what she did see was enough. Wonder how that happened...

 

[blake2go]

Ah, an emotion other than contempt for your pts also known as people.
change the label and you can anything to a "thing"
You are "smart people,you had good genes,family,grades,money you have the best of educations,your good health is insured.You will make great money
be respected,a pillar of the community.
And yet you can be so unprofessional,so jaded,laughing at people who have none of the above.Sadly their are very nasty people out there,more sadly some of them wear white coats........and your but students!
After reading this site, I now know what doctors think of people
Chart,Chunk,Check and if your lucky, a Chuckle.
crispy critters,toasted tikes= a child, in agony,disfigured for life.
I work in comedy,and be damned if I can find the HaHA...................
As for your coping, I too have been exposed to violent death, many times,and have watched others go to theirs,I don't remember finding it
cathartic to laugh at the "dumb bastard" who has just been eaten by a jet engine,and turned to a fine red mist.
My first requirement for a med student would be, that they have a soul.
I am curious,and know that I shall recieve both barrels, but did you have one going in? Do you feel that is being robbed of you? What will you do when it is gone?
I'm not here to dog you, but to hold the mirror
What do you see?

We are not heartless people, we too go home in tears. Humor is a way for us to get through the traumatic things we have to deal with every day. It may seem heartless to other people, but it is one of the few things that helps us keep our sanity in a profession where violent death is prominent.

 

[tiggrrl72077]

I am not in the medical profession. I just got finished reading all 45 pages and I am sad that I got to the end.
I am sorry that there are people who feel the need to come on here and judge you. I agree that this should be your place to vent and let loose and if people don't understand they should just SOB (scroll on by)
I don't see why people feel it is necessary to come on here and "hold the mirror"
You put up with so much and deserve respect. I just wanted to thank you for all you have done for all of your patients, my self and my family included.
Some of us patients actually do appreciate a doctor with a sense of humor.

Thanks again!

 

[SoCuteMD]

Ah, an emotion other than contempt for your pts also known as people.
change the label and you can anything to a "thing"
You are "smart people,you had good genes,family,grades,money you have the best of educations,your good health is insured.You will make great money
be respected,a pillar of the community.
And yet you can be so unprofessional,so jaded,laughing at people who have none of the above.Sadly their are very nasty people out there,more sadly some of them wear white coats........and your but students!
After reading this site, I now know what doctors think of people
Chart,Chunk,Check and if your lucky, a Chuckle.
crispy critters,toasted tikes= a child, in agony,disfigured for life.
I work in comedy,and be damned if I can find the HaHA...................
As for your coping, I too have been exposed to violent death, many times,and have watched others go to theirs,I don't remember finding it
cathartic to laugh at the "dumb bastard" who has just been eaten by a jet engine,and turned to a fine red mist.
My first requirement for a med student would be, that they have a soul.
I am curious,and know that I shall recieve both barrels, but did you have one going in? Do you feel that is being robbed of you? What will you do when it is gone?
I'm not here to dog you, but to hold the mirror
What do you see?

Dude
HUMOR=DEFENSE MECHANISM

And according to Freud, a healthy well-adjusted coping mechanism at that.

 

[DropkickMurphy]

According to the troll:

You are "smart people,you had good genes,family,grades,money you have the best of educations,your good health is insured.You will make great money
be respected,a pillar of the community.

Let's compare that to me in real life:
-smart: Yes
-you had good genes: depends on how you look at it
-good family: Not even close
-good grades: They are average
-money: Nope, my family is dirt poor.
-you have the best of educations Not really
-your good health is insured.- Insured but not ASSURED
-You will make great money- Decent money
-be respected- I'd rather be feared
-a pillar of the community.- Maybe....EM docs aren't exactly "pillars" normally because most people simply don't pay attention to them until they need them

 

[DropkickMurphy]

crispy critters,toasted tikes= a child, in agony,disfigured for life.

Actually, a crispy critter is normally dead by definition.....so no agony anymore.

 

[Taaki]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but judging people strictly on a blog is rather short sighted. It takes courage, character and compassion to do what we do. I have picked up the pieces of children with a stoic face, only to go home sobbing. I live in fear every day for what "might" happen to my family and loved ones because I see how easily accidents become tragedies. I take care of the forgotten people who walk in off the street complaining of chest pain just so they have a warm place to sleep and a meal. I take the hand of my patient, look them in the eye and share their fear. I let them cry, yell, scream, all while I hold them and offer whatever support I can, even though I too am screaming inside wondering why such horrible things happen. Until you, blake2go, have walked a mile in our shoes, please respect that you may not understand everything that we do, or how hard we had to work to get here.

 

[Anuwolf]

Blake2go,
I’m not a medical student or a doctor and I find some of theses stories laughable. You see people do stupid things and then cry out to the doctor to stop the pain and etc. Theses kind of people deserved to be laughed at. I as a pt had done some stupid things in the past, like doing a jackass stunt on my bed and ended up twisting my foot. I had to call up my friend to drive to my house to pick me up (My neighbors are busybodies) and to drive to the hospital (My house is walk able distance) because I heard a crack when I landed on the floor swearing from the pain (from the pain meter 1 – 10 and 10 being the worse pain ever, I must say that I was at a 6!). To this day I find it funny… I hope that the doctors and nurses who worked on me could laugh at the story that I gave them, because it was funny 😉

Have some fricken sense of humor!! I expect you being in the comedy business to have one… so far you have ZIPPO sense of humor.

And for god sakes show some fricken respect towards the ED… One day you will be asking them to work on your medical condition!
R.E.S.P.E.C.T my dear R.E.S.P.E.C.T!

Ah, an emotion other than contempt for your pts also known as people.
change the label and you can anything to a "thing"
You are "smart people,you had good genes,family,grades,money you have the best of educations,your good health is insured.You will make great money
be respected,a pillar of the community.
And yet you can be so unprofessional,so jaded,laughing at people who have none of the above.Sadly their are very nasty people out there,more sadly some of them wear white coats........and your but students!
After reading this site, I now know what doctors think of people
Chart,Chunk,Check and if your lucky, a Chuckle.
crispy critters,toasted tikes= a child, in agony,disfigured for life.
I work in comedy,and be damned if I can find the HaHA...................
As for your coping, I too have been exposed to violent death, many times,and have watched others go to theirs,I don't remember finding it
cathartic to laugh at the "dumb bastard" who has just been eaten by a jet engine,and turned to a fine red mist.
My first requirement for a med student would be, that they have a soul.
I am curious,and know that I shall recieve both barrels, but did you have one going in? Do you feel that is being robbed of you? What will you do when it is gone?
I'm not here to dog you, but to hold the mirror
What do you see?

 

[MatNeo]

I am not in the medical field, but I'll say this to those working in EM (esp those on this forum):

If I hurt myself and need to come into your aid, I hope for the best help possible. Once that has been given to me, feel free to enjoy yourselves with stories of how stupid I must have been to hurt myself...or whatever may apply. If I somehow nail myself to a wall, or impale myself with a spoon, I hope that the EM staff will help me to the best of their ability...but afterward, they are welcome to laugh about the situation I was in...if I survive, I certainly will be laughing about it.

As a young boy, a friend of mine fell off a roof trying to catch a monkey...while he was lying on the cement, it wasn't too funny, but he came out fine, and laughs about it. At the end of the day, all that matters is that a person is given the medical help they needed, and if they got that...what else matters? If EM staff took everything they saw to heart...they probably wouldn't be able to work in EM for any length of time.

Nowhere in this thread is evidence of poor care from the EM staff...so its all good.

 

[VA Hopeful Dr]

As a young boy, a friend of mine fell off a roof trying to catch a monkey

Everything is funny if it involves a monkey

 

[Chronic Student]

Why do the most sensitive people have less than 10 posts? 🙄

You be the judge.

-Mike

 

[docB]

If you're a homeless drunk who's going to try to secure 3 hots and a cot with the complaint of "I'm blind in one eye!" you really need to remember which eye it is to be at all convincing.

 

[EM2BE]

a friend of mine fell off a roof trying to catch a monkey...

How is the monkey?

 

[SoCuteMD]

"The drugs are cheaper in the middle of the block than they are on the corner."

No, really, they are.

 

[Anuwolf]

When are you guys going to create a Comedy Emergency Room Medical show? All of you guys who works in the ED need to join up and perhaps discuss to each other about the possibility development of a new show on comedy central.

PS, Make sure that you are in your scrubs! It makes the show more interesting to watch 😛

 

[blake2go]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but judging people strictly on a blog is rather short sighted. It takes courage, character and compassion to do what we do. I have picked up the pieces of children with a stoic face, only to go home sobbing. I live in fear every day for what "might" happen to my family and loved ones because I see how easily accidents become tragedies. I take care of the forgotten people who walk in off the street complaining of chest pain just so they have a warm place to sleep and a meal. I take the hand of my patient, look them in the eye and share their fear. I let them cry, yell, scream, all while I hold them and offer whatever support I can, even though I too am screaming inside wondering why such horrible things happen. Until you, blake2go, have walked a mile in our shoes, please respect that you may not understand everything that we do, or how hard we had to work to get here.

If it is any kindness,I'd want you on my side should I roll in bloody side up. You have heart! Well, I kicked the bee hive. So you have heart. people who are insensetive have 50+ posts. and one fellow who enjoys be mocked.
When and or what situations would you find it acceptable to be mocked
Go to dinner find the waiter pointing and sniggering. hey have a sense of humor.
As to the "drunk" I think that the AMA and BMA have classified that as a treatable Medical condition.
It would be nice to stop the sparing, I want to believe you are the Doctors
that we all wish for. But I want that from my auto mechanic.
But what I see now is my mechanic will spend 20 mins disscussing my bucket
of bolts,educate me,and help with repair.
A medical doctor 5 minutes. Had one point to his watch, mid question,"your time is up" a GP
I fear your becoming organic mechanics,who don't even show you the couresty
of your local grease monkey
Body vital, car expendable
You all have been tried by fire,you've been burnt,but the secret is not to harden. I'll guess your all in your late 20's,thats to young to be this hard.
I truly worry for you.

Two fish, in a tank,when one fish says to the other "So do you know how to drive this thing"?

"LIFE, don't talk to me about life"

 

[Anuwolf]

Blake,
Would you please stop whining and complaining. Do you even work in the medical field, especially in the emergency department? Do you know what theses people go thru each day? They see death every day. Some are from a suicide attempt, car/etc accidents, murder, etc… Can’t imagine what goes thru the minds of doctors that was trying to save a life of a child but was not successful and have the awful moment of telling the parents of that their child that they were caring is no longer on earth and having the parents (every parent acts different and some may regret saying stuffs that they would say) calling you a murderer, etc.

If every ED resident took everything so personal… they would be fallowed by therapists and psychiatrists each way. They’re would be shorten of staffs because of early retirement because of emotional distressed from the job.

I guess we are pretty insensitive because we choose to laugh at people who do stupid things like ole Johnny Knoxville and his jackass clan.

Not trying to make fun of the suicidal people (I was one of them once as I tried attempting suicide a couple of time, I had thoughts too) but you cannot change them (Some actually change like myself and actually appeceriate life) and the way they feel. They will attempt suicide until they are successful at it. You can send them to hospitals to hospitals but it would not change their feelings and emotions. I could understand why it angers some physicians to keep seeing the same patient over and over again for attempted suicide. They clog up the ED and they are a waste of time because once they heal, they will most likely to do it again, this cost the system more money and the taxes goes up.

 

[Gimlet]

If it is any kindness,I'd want you on my side should I roll in bloody side up. You have heart! Well, I kicked the bee hive. So you have heart. people who are insensetive have 50+ posts. and one fellow who enjoys be mocked.
When and or what situations would you find it acceptable to be mocked
Go to dinner find the waiter pointing and sniggering. hey have a sense of humor.
As to the "drunk" I think that the AMA and BMA have classified that as a treatable Medical condition.
It would be nice to stop the sparing, I want to believe you are the Doctors
that we all wish for. But I want that from my auto mechanic.
But what I see now is my mechanic will spend 20 mins disscussing my bucket
of bolts,educate me,and help with repair.
A medical doctor 5 minutes. Had one point to his watch, mid question,"your time is up" a GP
I fear your becoming organic mechanics,who don't even show you the couresty
of your local grease monkey
Body vital, car expendable
You all have been tried by fire,you've been burnt,but the secret is not to harden. I'll guess your all in your late 20's,thats to young to be this hard.
I truly worry for you.

Two fish, in a tank,when one fish says to the other "So do you know how to drive this thing"?

"LIFE, don't talk to me about life"

Are you writing in iambic pentameter or something?

 

[skoriaan]

Are you writing in iambic pentameter or something?

You know, I noticed an odd ryhtm and breakup to his writing. It's almost poetic. But, All forums have their Trolls. Being in the military, any semi-public forums I join get random troll posts. In fact, although this is off topic, I thought I'd share the poem that was shared with us today. It show...the profound nature of Trolling.

"Guys, here's a poem I wrote just this morning. I call it "U.S. soldiers are dumb, stupid trash."

You grew up in a trailor park
for school you had no cash
so you joined the army
like all the other trash

You smoke cigarettes
and you can barely read
please die in a roadside bombing
so that you don't breed"

As expected, few of us military reacted to it.


Back to the topic at hand:

Last time I went to the hospital...in fact, every time, I've been able to ask not only what was going on with me, but how they were going to fix/treat it. Also, what the methods were, and why. I'm like a 5 year old: "Whats that machine do?" "Why/how?" "Whats that tube lead to?" "Whats in that bag?" "Whats (tries to pronounce difficult medical word, which is either a drug, or a medical condition)?"

The Oral Surgeons who worked on my wisdom teeth even let me keep the leftover parts of my teeth, that I apparently asked for despratly, upon waking from the sleep. I don't know where that little bag went. I apparently, also asked if I could eat. Right then and there. Their answer was no. 🙁

Before going in, they explained the numour ways they would possibly go about removing my teeth--because I asked, of course.

I like to know whats going on. Most doctors, nurses, and Aides seem to share what information they have with me.

Not that I nessasarly understand all the answers....

M.

 

[Taaki]

When arriving in the ED for surgical removal of a FB from your rectum, please don't bring your horse saddle with you.

 

[Dunce]

Are you writing in iambic pentameter or something?

I thought I was losing my mind trying to read/decipher that guy's post.

 

[Anuwolf]

When arriving in the ED for surgical removal of a FB from your rectum, please don't bring your horse saddle with you.

What does FB means? 😳

 

[Taaki]

What does FB means? 😳

Foreign Body (whether it be a rodent or xrated toy I'll leave to your imagination) 😀

 

[docB]

I was going to avoid commenting on this latest round of controversy. I have stated the purpose, validity and appropriateness of this kind of thread several times. Perhaps we need a separate thread just for the accusations, opinions and comments that this thread periodically evokes.

For people who surf in and are offended I suggest that you keep in mind that the majority of us posting here are in healthcare and that we go to work every day and take care of patients with the utmost compassion and sensitivity. We get tired, frustrated, depressed and exasperated just like other people. There are good things about what we do: good pay, Mommy is proud, etc. etc. There are bad things too: abuse, assaults, threats, smells, stress, long hours. Some of us grew up with privilege but by no mean was that all of us. This thread is a place to vent, exchange stories and comment on the frequently surreal nature of the ED. We find camaraderie in this and it helps us to go back into the pit and do it again tomorrow.

You need to understand that you surfed to a site for docs, nurses, students and EMS. This is not a site for patients. If you look around you will find places where teachers laugh about the student who said something ridiculous, mechanics who laugh about the driver who wrecked a car in an amusing way, bank tellers who vent about obnoxious customers and so on. If you are offended please don’t take anything personally and go on your way. Be safe and have a great life. We’ll be there if you need us.

 

[blake2go]

Well, I will not post further. I did notice not one of the subjects I raised was adressed.Troll that I am,I also noticed how many responded,why?
I feel for you. DocB you sound like a good fellow.When you degrade a person
to make yourself feel better,you know that is not right.While all this may be
venting,it is the thinking behind it that concerns me.
As to this not being a site for patients,WE are all patients.
And I and others who fall in will know your true? natures.
You protect yourselves behind screen names,but to those, your name is
Doctor,Nurse,Ems
as they say" Bad Form"

I was going to avoid commenting on this latest round of controversy. I have stated the purpose, validity and appropriateness of this kind of thread several times. Perhaps we need a separate thread just for the accusations, opinions and comments that this thread periodically evokes.

For people who surf in and are offended I suggest that you keep in mind that the majority of us posting here are in healthcare and that we go to work every day and take care of patients with the utmost compassion and sensitivity. We get tired, frustrated, depressed and exasperated just like other people. There are good things about what we do: good pay, Mommy is proud, etc. etc. There are bad things too: abuse, assaults, threats, smells, stress, long hours. Some of us grew up with privilege but by no mean was that all of us. This thread is a place to vent, exchange stories and comment on the frequently surreal nature of the ED. We find camaraderie in this and it helps us to go back into the pit and do it again tomorrow.

You need to understand that you surfed to a site for docs, nurses, students and EMS. This is not a site for patients. If you look around you will find places where teachers laugh about the student who said something ridiculous, mechanics who laugh about the driver who wrecked a car in an amusing way, bank tellers who vent about obnoxious customers and so on. If you are offended please don’t take anything personally and go on your way. Be safe and have a great life. We’ll be there if you need us.

 

[8744]

Well, I will not post further. I did notice not one of the subjects I raised was adressed.Troll that I am,I also noticed how many responded,why?
I feel for you. DocB you sound like a good fellow.When you degrade a person
to make yourself feel better,you know that is not right.While all this may be
venting,it is the thinking behind it that concerns me.
As to this not being a site for patients,WE are all patients.
And I and others who fall in will know your true? natures.
You protect yourselves behind screen names,but to those, your name is
Doctor,Nurse,Ems
as they say" Bad Form"

Dude. I personally don't give a rat's ass what you think about any topic. But that's just me.

Oh, and you're an idiot.

Glad I could clear this up.

 

[8744]

Folks, you don't have to justify laughing at anything. I laugh at things that are funny. It is not a defense mechanism or a means to relieve stress. A guy with a lightbulb up his ass is just funny.

It's a sad day when when we get so politically correct that even our humor has to have an alibi.

 

[skoriaan]

A guy with a lightbulb up his ass is just funny.

How....do you get that up there without breaking it? Unless lightbulbs are stronger than I think.

M.

 

[Big Z]

Well, I will not post further. I did notice not one of the subjects I raised was adressed.Troll that I am,I also noticed how many responded,why?
I feel for you. DocB you sound like a good fellow.When you degrade a person
to make yourself feel better,you know that is not right.While all this may be
venting,it is the thinking behind it that concerns me.
As to this not being a site for patients,WE are all patients.
And I and others who fall in will know your true? natures.
You protect yourselves behind screen names,but to those, your name is
Doctor,Nurse,Ems
as they say" Bad Form"

he obviously doesn't get it.. will NEVER get it.. so just ignore him and he'll go away. Don't feed the bears.

 

[skoriaan]

You need to understand that you surfed to a site for docs, nurses, students and EMS. This is not a site for patients.

So, given that, is it a problem if patients like me sit here, and occasionally comment, in a non-negitive fasion, or should I just keep samesaid comments to myself? 😕

Just curious,

M.

 

[Taaki]

So, given that, is it a problem if patients like me sit here, and occasionally comment, in a non-negitive fasion, or should I just keep samesaid comments to myself? 😕

Just curious,

M.

As far as I am concerned, you are more than welcome to comment. However, DocB did start this thread. DocB? Do they have the invite? 🙂

 

[docB]

So, given that, is it a problem if patients like me sit here, and occasionally comment, in a non-negitive fasion, or should I just keep samesaid comments to myself? 😕

Just curious,

M.

No, of course not. Lots of non medical people have contributed some terrific things. I was specifically speaking to the people who surf through and feel the need to drop a few "You should be ashamed of yourselves" posts.

I think that most people can appreciate the need to decompress and sympathize with each other about the absurdity we face. This thread is like the break room in the ER, the ambulance after the call and the kitchen back at the fire house. These are the same conversations that take place there daily. Most of us get no stress debriefing at all. After something particularly gruesome we get two or three minutes and then it's on to the next pateint. The anonymity of the forums lets this debriefing happen with a wider support group. There are frequently threads about the horror as well.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=154841
Maybe the very sensitive folks should limit themselves to those.

 

[mysophobe]

How....do you get that up there without breaking it? Unless lightbulbs are stronger than I think.

M.

Ouch. Could you imagine? Hate to be the surgeon that has to clean that up.

 

[Taaki]

Ouch. Could you imagine? Hate to be the surgeon that has to clean that up.

He just used the potato trick.

 

[Chronic Student]

How....do you get that up there without breaking it? Unless lightbulbs are stronger than I think.

M.

Or their sphincter is really loose, think about it 😱

Oh and lots of KY!

-Mike

 

[dopaminophile]

No, of course not. Lots of non medical people have contributed some terrific things. I was specifically speaking to the people who surf through and feel the need to drop a few "You should be ashamed of yourselves" posts.

I think that most people can appreciate the need to decompress and sympathize with each other about the absurdity we face. This thread is like the break room in the ER, the ambulance after the call and the kitchen back at the fire house. These are the same conversations that take place there daily. Most of us get no stress debriefing at all. After something particularly gruesome we get two or three minutes and then it's on to the next pateint. The anonymity of the forums lets this debriefing happen with a wider support group. There are frequently threads about the horror as well.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=154841
Maybe the very sensitive folks should limit themselves to those.

Perhaps the solution to this is some restricted viewing access. I emphatically agree that these sorts of pages are a healthy and important means of laughing and dealing with some of the things we see in the ED... but it may be a little more public than is appropriate. As it stands, the page is clearly quite disconcerting to a handful of laypeople and I worry that it might hurt their relationships with their physicians. It would be an easy switch to restrict viewing access for some of these forums to members only. Such a switch wouldn't hurt any of the regulars to the forums and might prevent any bad blood between those who wander in and their physicians.

Anyhow... just a thought...

On that note, here's my contribution to medical education... if you're running from police after having molested three women at gunpoint, shooting at them is a bad idea. A worse idea would be to shoot behind yourself over your shoulder as you run down the street. The worst idea would be to pull the trigger when the gun's pointed more at your own head and less at the police. This didn't appear to be a suicide... it looks like he just couldn't coordinate running and shooting at the same time. yeesh.

 

[PendulousRichar]

Oh I hope you don't restrict viewing. I am not in the medical field (and neither is Blake2go I would bet) but I find this forum hysterical and the stories mind-blowing. In my field (computers) we run into the exact same level of stupidity and the number of times I have to "re-set the DFU" (short for Dumb User) allows me to understand your frustration.

Frankly, I am amazed at how anyone managed to do your job and not go up on a water tower with a sniper rifle, but somehow you do. Should I ever fall on something that lodges in my rectum, get beat up by the evil "Some Guy" or get injured SOCMOB, I would be thrilled to have any of you treat me (and then post about it here).

As to dealing with the trolls, my advice would be just immediately deleting their posts. Don't give them the dignity of a response as they don't care and will just repeat themselves whether you refute their argument or not.

"How can they call this World Cup stuff football, these guys wouldn't last 5 minutes in the NFL". - me

 

[lilmissangel]

"How can they call this World Cup stuff football, these guys wouldn't last 5 minutes in the NFL". - me

Because they kick the BALL with their FEET....hence football.
Thats some exciting stuff!!! That holland portugal game yesterday....pure entertainment.

 

[flighterdoc]

Because they kick the BALL with their FEET....hence football.
Thats some exciting stuff!!! That holland portugal game yesterday....pure entertainment.

Socialist football....consider:

• No one understands the rules.
• Workers are prohibited from using the tools that would let them be more productive (hands).
• From time to time petty bureaucrats (officials) interfere with play in such a way as to limit production.
• Players, coaches, officials and fans are all fully involved (employed) and yet output is miniscule.
• Any production is met by celebration all out of proportion to its objective value.
• The referees wear red
• Followers are slavishly (religiously?) devoted to the system and their own brand of it and resort to violence at any criticism of either.

 

[lilmissangel]

Socialist football....consider:

nothing wrong with a little socialism injected into our societies now and then...

 

[on the fringe]

I have always held great respect for the people that have to make life and death decisions for people that they do not even know and for people who fight them every step of the way. Keeping your sanity under those conditions day after day has to be brutal.

I worked as a Scrub Tech for 6 years then moved onto working with healthcare databases as an end user, then Technical Support for medical software. I hope that this forum remains open because it allows me to stay on the fringes of the medical world that I have always enjoyed so much.

Stay strong and persevere!

Oh I hope you don't restrict viewing. I am not in the medical field (and neither is Blake2go I would bet) but I find this forum hysterical and the stories mind-blowing. In my field (computers) we run into the exact same level of stupidity and the number of times I have to "re-set the DFU" (short for Dumb User) allows me to understand your frustration.

Frankly, I am amazed at how anyone managed to do your job and not go up on a water tower with a sniper rifle, but somehow you do. Should I ever fall on something that lodges in my rectum, get beat up by the evil "Some Guy" or get injured SOCMOB, I would be thrilled to have any of you treat me (and then post about it here).

As to dealing with the trolls, my advice would be just immediately deleting their posts. Don't give them the dignity of a response as they don't care and will just repeat themselves whether you refute their argument or not.

"How can they call this World Cup stuff football, these guys wouldn't last 5 minutes in the NFL". - me