tossing acceptances and re-applying

[whatshouldido]

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Is it possible to re-apply even if you have acceptances? I received an interview invitation from every top school that I applied to, but my interview skills were horrible. As a result, I've been left with a ton of waitlists (including one at Penn this morning) and only two acceptances, both of which are from schools that I really would not want to attend. I'm really depressed; I really thought that I could have done better. Any thoughts?

 

[Handy388]

NO.

or reapply and hear the sound of your dream falls apart.

 

[aznb0y129]

Is it possible to re-apply even if you have acceptances? I received an interview invitation from every top school that I applied to, but my interview skills were horrible. As a result, I've been left with a ton of waitlists (including one at Penn this morning) and only two acceptances, both of which are from schools that I really would not want to attend. I'm really depressed; I really thought that I could have done better. Any thoughts?

Suck it up and go to one of your acceptances.

There's no guarantee you'll do better next cycle anyway, so don't be stupid and waste an opportunity that you currently have in your hands.

 

[drizzt3117]

Why did you apply to schools you don't want to go to?

 

[PremedIowa]

You should set your priorities. Is your goal to be a physician? If so, you should go to one of the schools that accepted you.

Reapplicants that reapply because they didn't like the schools that accepted them are seen as risky and you might not have any more success next year. Do the smart thing: go to a med school, do well in your classes and get AOA, then get the prestigious residency you seem interested in.

 

[doctor712]

A few schools will allow you to transfer in after 2 years, or 1 year, that's an option. This becomes a MUCH more remote chance if your current school is outside US.

Good luck

D712

 

[PremedIowa]

A few schools will allow you to transfer in after 2 years, or 1 year, that's an option. This becomes a MUCH more remote chance if your current school is outside US.

Good luck

D712

It is almost certain that none of the schools that the OP is interested will allow transfers. It is a relatively rare event in the first place that usually takes place when students transfer between similarly-ranked schools to be closer to family.

OP, be smart. Go to Mayo's, JH's, or Harvard's website and see how many of their faculty came from "no-name" schools. So long as you do well at a US medical school, you will do fine.

 

[PremedIowa]

For example, look at Mayo's Rad Onc (generally regarded as a very prestigious residency) department: http://www.mayoclinic.org/radiation-oncology-rst/doctors.html

Or their #1 gastroenterology program: http://www.mayoclinic.org/gi-rst/doctors.html

 

[RedState]

This is the same thing I'm trying to figure out now. The schools I applied to were ones that I had heard good things about, but I am starting to have doubts because I don't see graduates from a couple of these places anywhere but the boonies or in sketchy places with DOs & IMGs (no offense but it speaks to quality). I am a former medic in the military, EMT and have quite a bit of clinical exp. 39 MCAT sci 3.92 cum 3.9. and only have been accepted to a couple low tier state schools. My discharge date delayed my application, so I think I might be able to pull of some better acceptances if I reapply?

 

[Dr Simplicity]

This is the same thing I'm trying to figure out now. The schools I applied to were ones that I had heard good things about, but I am starting to have doubts because I don't see graduates from a couple of these places anywhere but the boonies or in sketchy places with DOs & IMGs (no offense but it speaks to quality). I am a former medic in the military, EMT and have quite a bit of clinical exp. 39 MCAT sci 3.92 cum 3.9. and only have been accepted to a couple low tier state schools. My discharge date delayed my application, so I think I might be able to pull of some better acceptances if I reapply?

Wow. I think the Cleveland Clinic is now considered low grade to you because they have DOs and IMGs. Good Luck finding a place with no DOs or IMGs!

 

[deleted212936]

Would you be a STRONGER candidate next year? If you're 100% positive, then wait. Otherwise,

Acceptance to ANY U.S. med school is an achievement.
Don't waste your chance.

 

[kingofthehill]

Is it possible to re-apply even if you have acceptances? I received an interview invitation from every top school that I applied to, but my interview skills were horrible. As a result, I've been left with a ton of waitlists (including one at Penn this morning) and only two acceptances, both of which are from schools that I really would not want to attend. I'm really depressed; I really thought that I could have done better. Any thoughts?

I'm wondering why you applied to them in the first place if you knew you wouldn't be willing to attend😕 Look we all thought we could have done better, we all leave interviews thinking oh I should have said this or that, blah blah blah...point is if you aren't happy about going to any medical school then it seems you aren't willing to become a doctor no matter what it takes, even if it means something as trivial as not going to your top choice school. I'm almost positive reapplying with a withdrawn acceptance will be unsuccessful; how would you respond to the question "why didn't you go to X...it wasn't good enough for you?" That'd definitely be a tough question to answer.

 

[TerdFerguson]

I have been down this path and was lucky enough to gain an acceptance in the city of my choosing. That being said, it was a horrible year for me where I couldn't stop wondering if I shot myself in the foot. I certainly wouldn't recommend this move and only did it because I fully understood the consequences. 100% anecdotal evidence here. Good luck with ur decision.

 

[RedState]

Wow. I think the Cleveland Clinic is now considered low grade to you because they have DOs and IMGs. Good Luck finding a place with no DOs or IMGs!

There is nothing wrong with DOs -I've seen plenty in the military. But as far as residency goes, I think it says something about an ACGME program that predominantly has DOs, IMGs or folks from lower end schools. Either it's a new program, a malignant program, a last chance program, not in a good area, headed by a DO or linked to a 3rd world school by contract. Lots of scenarios, none favorable.

 

[GoSpursGo]

Is it possible to re-apply even if you have acceptances? I received an interview invitation from every top school that I applied to, but my interview skills were horrible. As a result, I've been left with a ton of waitlists (including one at Penn this morning) and only two acceptances, both of which are from schools that I really would not want to attend. I'm really depressed; I really thought that I could have done better. Any thoughts?

This is the same thing I'm trying to figure out now. The schools I applied to were ones that I had heard good things about, but I am starting to have doubts because I don't see graduates from a couple of these places anywhere but the boonies or in sketchy places with DOs & IMGs (no offense but it speaks to quality). I am a former medic in the military, EMT and have quite a bit of clinical exp. 39 MCAT sci 3.92 cum 3.9. and only have been accepted to a couple low tier state schools. My discharge date delayed my application, so I think I might be able to pull of some better acceptances if I reapply?

Here's the problem- you have to disclose whether or not you've ever been accepted to med school on the AMCAS. One thing that med schools really don't want to see is that you're in it for the prestige- and what other conclusion can they draw if you were given the chance to go to med school and turned it down because that school "wasn't good enough for you?"

In my opinion, re-applying after you had an acceptance in hand would be foolish. You waste a year of your life, and quite possibly only lower your chances of acceptance not only at the top schools that will think you're in it for prestige, but also at the low-tier schools which will see you really don't want to go there anyways.

 

[wurm]

Why the hell would you possibly want to put yourself through this nightmarish application cycle again?

 

[futIDdoc]

to the people that are going to reapply, it sounds more like you are interested in attending medical school than becoming a physician. When you are out practicing on your own in 5-10 yrs, you know how many patients and colleagues are gonna care where you went to school? Zero. Get over this crap that you are soooooo special and can only go the JHU or Harvard b/c you deserve it. Newsflash, you aren't special and that 'lower' tier school is gonna be filled with people smarter than you. And redstate, I hope I am present the day you get smacked down by a DO resident or attending during your third year clinicals to laugh at your *****.

 

[flip26]

Here's the problem- you have to disclose whether or not you've ever been accepted to med school on the AMCAS.

Although I have not applied, this isn't correct from what I understand.

You are required to reveal if you have ever matriculated at a med school.

A few med schools reportedly ask in secondaries about acceptances in prior cycles.

 

[GoSpursGo]

Although I have not applied, this isn't correct from what I understand.

You are required to reveal if you have ever matriculated at a med school.

A few med schools reportedly ask in secondaries about acceptances in prior cycles.

Hmmm... that wasn't my understanding, but I reserve the right to be wrong *shrug*

 

[futIDdoc]

you are correct that you only disclose if you matriculated. HOWEVER, amcas does keep track of acceptances granted to each candidate. For example, schools use this AMCAS database to determine if a candidate is in violation of holding multiple acceptances on May 15. I do not know whether or not this info is carried into the next cycle and that is the risk you run.

 

[dw2158]

Would you be a STRONGER candidate next year? If you're 100% positive, then wait.

no, no, no, no, no. even if you're stronger, no med school will want you if you were offered an opportunity to become a physician and turned it down.

Suck it up and go to one of your acceptances.

There's no guarantee you'll do better next cycle anyway, so don't be stupid and waste an opportunity that you currently have in your hands.

right. in fact, i'm pretty sure there's a guarantee you'll do worse.

Here's the problem- you have to disclose whether or not you've ever been accepted to med school on the AMCAS. One thing that med schools really don't want to see is that you're in it for the prestige- and what other conclusion can they draw if you were given the chance to go to med school and turned it down because that school "wasn't good enough for you?"

In my opinion, re-applying after you had an acceptance in hand would be foolish. You waste a year of your life, and quite possibly only lower your chances of acceptance not only at the top schools that will think you're in it for prestige, but also at the low-tier schools which will see you really don't want to go there anyways.

QFT.

 

[RedState]

to the people that are going to reapply, it sounds more like you are interested in attending medical school than becoming a physician. When you are out practicing on your own in 5-10 yrs, you know how many patients and colleagues are gonna care where you went to school? Zero. Get over this crap that you are soooooo special and can only go the JHU or Harvard b/c you deserve it. Newsflash, you aren't special and that 'lower' tier school is gonna be filled with people smarter than you. And redstate, I hope I am present the day you get smacked down by a DO resident or attending during your third year clinicals to laugh at your *****.

Like I said, there is nothing wrong with DOs -some DO schools have grads in great places. But DO+IMG+Low tier student is suspicious. I admit to not being politically correct. I may raise a question that others are thinking but are too afraid to ask. So be it, attack me. I have a right to generate discussion in order to tease out the info that I am looking for. You shouldn't take it personally, this isn't real life, it's SDN.

 

[chiz2kul]

no, no, no, no, no. even if you're stronger, no med school will want you if you were offered an opportunity to become a physician and turned it down.



right. in fact, i'm pretty sure there's a guarantee you'll do worse.



QFT.

Sources pls.

 

[megamega]

Although I have not applied, this isn't correct from what I understand.

You are required to reveal if you have ever matriculated at a med school.

A few med schools reportedly ask in secondaries about acceptances in prior cycles.

I think most medical schools ask this in the secondary application. At least it seemed like it to me.

 

[GoSpursGo]

Like I said, there is nothing wrong with DOs -some DO schools have grads in great places. But DO+IMG+Low tier student is suspicious. I admit to not being politically correct. I may raise a question that others are thinking but are too afraid to ask. So be it, attack me. I have a right to generate discussion in order to tease out the info that I am looking for. You shouldn't take it personally, this isn't real life, it's SDN.

You also have a right to use the search function. The merits of going DO have been discussed many times, at length, and we will not be doing so again here, because the threads always get way too heated, way too fast.

 

[flip26]

I think most medical schools ask this in the secondary application. At least it seemed like it to me.

I have heard that AECOM asks, but I haven't heard of any others. Realistically, there can't be that many people who do this sort of thing.

I don't endorse anybody dropping acceptances and applying the next cycle, but I think most of the stuff about blacklists and the like are hysterical premed urban myths...

 

[MilkmanAl]

Don't be ridiculous. Go to one of the schools that accepted you, and make the most of it. Chances are you're like many pre-meds and don't really know anything about the schools you applied to besides where they are, how much they cost, and a general outline of their curricula. That is, you have no idea why you would or wouldn't want to matriculate to many of these schools. Maybe I'm wrong and you have close, honest friends who are M4's at every school you applied to. I doubt it, though. Go to med school.

 

[megamega]

I have heard that AECOM asks, but I haven't heard of any others. Realistically, there can't be that many people who do this sort of thing.

I don't endorse anybody dropping acceptances and applying the next cycle, but I think most of the stuff about blacklists and the like are hysterical premed urban myths...

I'm not about to rummage through all my secondaries again, but I know that more than half of the schools I applied to asked whether I was accepted before. You are more than welcome to check all your secondaries when you get them though, just to be sure.😉

 

[Kaustikos]

Like I said, there is nothing wrong with DOs -some DO schools have grads in great places. But DO+IMG+Low tier student is suspicious. I admit to not being politically correct. I may raise a question that others are thinking but are too afraid to ask. So be it, attack me. I have a right to generate discussion in order to tease out the info that I am looking for. You shouldn't take it personally, this isn't real life, it's SDN.

Then don't become a physician. If you're ongoing skepticism doesn't stop now, you're going to be in a world of hurt when you have to, dear god, deal with DO's and IMG's and PAs and NPs at the hospital you work at. I would think someone with a 3.9 and 39 whatever MCAT would have the brains to understand that being accepted to any US Medical School is a great thing and will be trained the same in practicing Medicine. DOs are only marginally different (so far) in "stats" and still produce excellent physicians as well.

Don't be ridiculous. Go to one of the schools that accepted you, and make the most of it. Chances are you're like many pre-meds and don't really know anything about the schools you applied to besides where they are, how much they cost, and a general outline of their curricula. That is, you have no idea why you would or wouldn't want to matriculate to many of these schools. Maybe I'm wrong and you have close, honest friends who are M4's at every school you applied to. I doubt it, though. Go to med school.

I agree

 

[redlight]

unless you feel you are a very poor fit for the schools you got into, or the schools' finaid is abominable, MATRICULATE. you are going to have to suck it up. you are not guaranteed an acceptance next year, and if schools do indeed ask if you were accepted last year, and you do not have a legitimate reason for applying this cycle (higher prestige is a horrible excuse), i think you are screwed to the max. i wonder what adcom like LizzyM feel about this? 🙂

also what are your backup plans for the year while you apply and further years if you don't get in next cycle?

 

[futIDdoc]

Then don't become a physician. If you're ongoing skepticism doesn't stop now, you're going to be in a world of hurt when you have to, dear god, deal with DO's and IMG's and PAs and NPs at the hospital you work at. I would think someone with a 3.9 and 39 whatever MCAT would have the brains to understand that being accepted to any US Medical School is a great thing and will be trained the same in practicing Medicine. DOs are only marginally different (so far) in "stats" and still produce excellent physicians as well.

I agree

but then RedState won't have that huge diploma on his office wall that says Harvard or Hopkins. And after all, isn't that what this is all about?

 

[fizzle]

Here's the problem- you have to disclose whether or not you've ever been accepted to med school on the AMCAS. One thing that med schools really don't want to see is that you're in it for the prestige- and what other conclusion can they draw if you were given the chance to go to med school and turned it down because that school "wasn't good enough for you?"

In my opinion, re-applying after you had an acceptance in hand would be foolish. You waste a year of your life, and quite possibly only lower your chances of acceptance not only at the top schools that will think you're in it for prestige, but also at the low-tier schools which will see you really don't want to go there anyways.

The AMCAS only asks if you've matriculated before, not "have been accepted." The OP and others in his/her circumstance would still be able to answer "no" honestly.

And frankly, you never know if you don't like a school until you've visited it for an interview. Almost no one is going to apply to schools knowing how much they like every school they apply to.

 

[amph119]

The AMCAS only asks if you've matriculated before, not "have been accepted." The OP and others in his/her circumstance would still be able to answer "no" honestly.

And frankly, you never know if you don't like a school until you've visited it for an interview. Almost no one is going to apply to schools knowing how much they like every school they apply to.

No, you are wrong. And clearly the OP is going to make a bad doctor. Other personal insults.

 

[aznb0y129]

No, you are wrong. And clearly the OP is going to make a bad doctor. Other personal insults.

Also, the OP hasn't been back since the first post. Suspicious...

 

[cpants]

Sounds like you are on the verge of a huge mistake. Analysis of what medical schools your acceptance schools' residents attended is the dumbest reason I've heard for turning down an acceptance. Is that really the only reason you don't like these schools? What are the schools in question?

Your stats are impressive, but don't kid yourself. Applicants with your statistics are a dime a dozen at the top medical schools in the country. They obviously found reason not to accept you this year. What reason do you have to think they will change their minds next year? You may have had some rough interviews, but you don't know if that was what kept you from being admitted or that you will perform better next year. Remember, a bird in hand is worth two in the bush.

 

[GoSpursGo]

No, you are wrong. And clearly the OP is going to make a bad doctor. Other personal insults.

Medical advice, legal advice, and advertising. Porn.

 

[amph119]

Medical advice, legal advice, and advertising. Porn.

MD vs DO, URM status, affirmative action, C+ in Physics, and J on the writing section.

 

[futIDdoc]

Medical advice, legal advice, and advertising. Porn.

are the four main food groups?

 

[aznb0y129]

MD vs DO, URM status, affirmative action, C+ in Physics, and J on the writing section.

 

[MilkmanAl]

Medical advice, legal advice, and advertising. Porn.

👍

 

[GoSpursGo]

👍

 

[amph119]

Medical advice, legal advice, and advertising. Porn.

Whichever one of you can take credit for that post originally (I think it was Milkman), props. I don't think I've ever laughed harder or enjoyed a post as much as that one.

 

[GoSpursGo]

Whichever one of you can take credit for that post originally (I think it was Milkman), props. I don't think I've ever laughed harder or enjoyed a post as much as that one.

Yep, Milkman can take a bow for that one 😀 Twas sig-worthy!

 

[drmonti]

to the people that are going to reapply, it sounds more like you are interested in attending medical school than becoming a physician. When you are out practicing on your own in 5-10 yrs, you know how many patients and colleagues are gonna care where you went to school? Zero. Get over this crap that you are soooooo special and can only go the JHU or Harvard b/c you deserve it. Newsflash, you aren't special and that 'lower' tier school is gonna be filled with people smarter than you. And redstate, I hope I am present the day you get smacked down by a DO resident or attending during your third year clinicals to laugh at your *****.

HAHA! well said futIDdoc!!! couldn't have said it better myself 🙂

 

[amph119]

Though I would never throw mine out because I am exceedingly happy with the school that I will, as of now, be attending, don't for one second tell me that most, if not all, of you with acceptances didn't at least once think about what the OP has considered. Maybe not seriously, but you thought it. Only difference here is the OP actually asked it.

 

[ChubbyChaser]

though i would never throw mine out because i am exceedingly happy with the school that i will, as of now, be attending, don't for one second tell me that most, if not all, of you with acceptances didn't at least once think about what the op has considered. Maybe not seriously, but you thought it. Only difference here is the op actually asked it.

never

 

[amph119]

never

Haha shut up you 🙂

 

[GoSpursGo]

Though I would never throw mine out because I am exceedingly happy with the school that I will, as of now, be attending, don't for one second tell me that most, if not all, of you with acceptances didn't at least once think about what the OP has considered. Maybe not seriously, but you thought it. Only difference here is the OP actually asked it.

Sure. In fact, my first two acceptances that I got before Baylor were met less with the thrill of, "OMG, I got in," but more with, "Man, I really hope I don't wind up there..."

Still, you don't throw away what you have in hand for a chance to play the lottery again. So I understand what the OP and are asking... but still, it would be foolish to actually follow through with trying to re-apply.

 

[amph119]

Sure. In fact, my first two acceptances that I got before Baylor were met less with the thrill of, "OMG, I got in," but more with, "Man, I really hope I don't wind up there..."

Still, you don't throw away what you have in hand for a chance to play the lottery again. So I understand what the OP and are asking... but still, it would be foolish to actually follow through with trying to re-apply.

I agree it'd be foolish, but the reaction in this thread is unprompted.

 

[ChubbyChaser]

Haha shut up you 🙂

I like your giant spoon.