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I'm a foreign trained dentist trying to get in an endodontics residency.
I graduate in 2010 with a not so great GPA, got a 90 and an 80 in NBDE I and II respectively, did AEGD in the US, got a 90 in ADAT, practicing in Florida and has been applying for endo for 3 years. I never even got an interview. What is going wrong here? What can I do to better my chances for next year?
 

geewizz23

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Research and good letters of rec can play a big role too in my opinion. Your ADAT score seems really good and maybe it will play a bigger role as more schools start requiring it


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Research and good letters of rec can play a big role too in my opinion. Your ADAT score seems really good and maybe it will play a bigger role as more schools start requiring it


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Thanks! I also got recommendation letters from the dean who is a big shot in ADEA, a department chair, and the AEGD program director.
It's just weird that I applied to all schools that accept foreign grads (23 in total) for 3 years and never got an interview!

As for the research, as a practicing dentist, how can I do research?
 
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Could there be possibly something negative in one of your LORs? Hopefully not. everything other than gpa seems good. Was it 23 applications total or 23 per year? Might be worthwhile to call or email some of your top choices and ask the program directors if they have any recommendations on how to improve your app.


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You really want to get into ENDO? You'll likely have to do an advance standing DDS/DMD 2 year program or an MS in oral biology.


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Could there be possibly something negative in one of your LORs? Hopefully not. everything other than gpa seems good. Was it 23 applications total or 23 per year? Might be worthwhile to call or email some of your top choices and ask the program directors if they have any recommendations on how to improve your app.


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It's 23 this year. Less than that the past 2 years.
I will be contacting the programs once everything settles down.
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Ok, so I've been waiting and no one has said it. You really want to get into ENDO? You'll likely have to do an advance standing DDS/DMD 2 year program or an MS in oral biology. It will be very difficult for you to "back door" your way into ENDO, hence your results from the past 3 cycles


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How is this "back dooring"? Doing an advanced standing program is impossible for me right now, but I've been thinking about MS programs.
 

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Ok, so I've been waiting and no one has said it. You really want to get into ENDO? You'll likely have to do an advance standing DDS/DMD 2 year program or an MS in oral biology. It will be very difficult for you to "back door" your way into ENDO, hence your results from the past 3 cycles


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There are internationals that have gotten in with less stats than him and have not done an advanced standing program. At the end of the day, it's all about how you build your connections in my opinion.
 
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Maybe there is already a thread for this, but I couldn't find one that answered my question directly. I have been gathering information from the AAE's website in regards to Endodontic Residency programs for 2019 (I will be applying this summer). After months of emailing schools and searching the AAE's website for information, I found that there were large discrepancies between the school and the AAE's website. I am wondering if anyone has an updated comprehensive list of schools that: 1. Require a year of experience/a GPR? and 2. Require a form of secondary examination outside of the boards exam? Thank you for your help!
 

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I know of one foreign trained dentist who got into an endo residency in the US in one shot and didn't even do an advanced standing, but maybe it's because the person had a phd...
 
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How much do NBDE scores matter for ENDO residencies? The exam is pass/fail and I am not sure if when I take it next year if I should try to achieve a very high score or aim to pass and focus on my coursework and extracurriculars. Thank you to all.
 

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How much do NBDE scores matter for ENDO residencies? The exam is pass/fail and I am not sure if when I take it next year if I should try to achieve a very high score or aim to pass and focus on my coursework and extracurriculars. Thank you to all.
ADAT is the new exam to differentiate applicants. You will find out on Pass website whether or not programs require you to take ADAT. Application cycle usually opens on May of each year.
 
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My only advice to you is to ask for site visits/externships at the endo programs you are interested in. Exam scores/numbers are only one part of the app and not always as important as people think. Face time with a director can go a long way in my opinion. Other than that make sure your personality fits the programs you are applying to, this is a big reason standardized test scores fall shot, it doesn't tell you how a person will be as a resident/co-resident.
 
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