Tucson Sound 'Clinician' layoffs

[NICMAN]

It sounds like Sound Physicians group is laying off over 90 employees in Tucson, AZ. Anybody have any knowledge of this and if it impacts Anesthesiologist or anesthesia services?

Physician group lays off 98 in Arizona

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[UscGhost]

Sounds bad ..

 

[deleted1183938]

I love to see all these damn AMCs imploding!!!
Any chance we are gonna have $$$ for locums? Although I hear that AZ is the Wild Wild West and Surgeons have to fight to get a physician to do their cases.
No joke. A neurosurgeon has to beg administration for a physician at one hospital in Phoenix?? Tucson??? A 400 bed Trauma 1 where they don’t have Physicians readily available for anesthesia. What a shame.

@Ashers

 

[amyl]

Are these definitely clinicians…. Or office staff? Or both?

 

[CubsDynasty]

Probably just office staff. They only have 2 anesthesia sites in the state and they don’t even have that many people there. Unless it’s hospitalist or ER related.

 

[cchoukal]

Sound's bad ..

There, I fixed it for you.

 

[aneftp]

Sadly. Most hospital management senior leaders have no clue how to operate anesthesia or even ER or radiology departments.

The AMC do understand the practice of anesthesiology better and how it staff and bill.

It’s just the ineptitude of why some senior level executives salaries are not justified. Considering surgery is the main money maker for most non indigent hospitals.

Staffing lucrative surgery dept really falls on the COO along with the CMO and CNO and medical directors.

There are some medical directors I know who get 200k on to of their base 525k salary to manage the OR. Yet they get get staffing levels up.

You are payoff someone close to 3/4 of a million dollars to do very little clinical work. It’s insane

The ceo is at around 850k. The cno is 300k. Coo is 700k.

All not contributing jack to revenues for the hospital.

 

[amyl]

Ridiculous that they’re paid that in their ineptitude. Especially considering my b school friends say hospital admin is what the lowest half the class goes into….

 

[Xman5678]

Ridiculous that they’re paid that in their ineptitude. Especially considering my b school friends say hospital admin is what the lowest half the class goes into….

“The 'C' students run the world.”​

― Harry S. Truman

 

[NightyNight]

Sadly. Most hospital management senior leaders have no clue how to operate anesthesia or even ER or radiology departments.

The AMC do understand the practice of anesthesiology better and how it staff and bill.

It’s just the ineptitude of why some senior level executives salaries are not justified. Considering surgery is the main money maker for most non indigent hospitals.

Staffing lucrative surgery dept really falls on the COO along with the CMO and CNO and medical directors.

There are some medical directors I know who get 200k on to of their base 525k salary to manage the OR. Yet they get get staffing levels up.

You are payoff someone close to 3/4 of a million dollars to do very little clinical work. It’s insane

The ceo is at around 850k. The cno is 300k. Coo is 700k.

All not contributing jack to revenues for the hospital.

I found out from a friend who looked up the salaries online at a place I previously worked at. CEO near 3M. COO over 1M. That’s just crazy when it’s mostly meetings and getting to work remote.

 

[Coffee PRN]

“The 'C' students run the world.”​

― Harry S. Truman

Zuckerberg, musk, jensen huang?

 

[jwk]

Sadly. Most hospital management senior leaders have no clue how to operate anesthesia or even ER or radiology departments.

The AMC do understand the practice of anesthesiology better and how it staff and bill.

It’s just the ineptitude of why some senior level executives salaries are not justified. Considering surgery is the main money maker for most non indigent hospitals.

Staffing lucrative surgery dept really falls on the COO along with the CMO and CNO and medical directors.

There are some medical directors I know who get 200k on to of their base 525k salary to manage the OR. Yet they get get staffing levels up.

You are payoff someone close to 3/4 of a million dollars to do very little clinical work. It’s insane

The ceo is at around 850k. The cno is 300k. Coo is 700k.

All not contributing jack to revenues for the hospital.

Anesthesia department should never ever be under CNO.

 

[aneftp]

I found out from a friend who looked up the salaries online at a place I previously worked at. CEO near 3M. COO over 1M. That’s just crazy when it’s mostly meetings and getting to work remote.

I’m fine with them making 3 million as long as they are doing their job. Many aren’t. They are like bad nba coaches. They keep getting recycled and keep making money to lead other hospitals.

Anesthesia department should never ever be under CNO.

No. I mean the CNO needs to coordinate nursing staff but “delegates” a lot of the time

 

[ambiturner]

I’m fine with them making 3 million as long as they are doing their job. Many aren’t. They are like bad nba coaches. They keep getting recycled and keep making money to lead other hospitals.

No. I mean the CNO needs to coordinate nursing staff but “delegates” a lot of the time

Totally agree - if hospitals are going to act like businesses then the executives should have more variable compensation. They absolutely should be taking big hits if they’re laying off clinicians or decreasing their pay (a la Covid)

 

[narcotics999]

Zuckerberg, musk, jensen huang?

They don’t run the world. Bush, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Trump do/did.

 

[nimbus]

Zuckerberg, musk, jensen huang?

They don’t run the world. Bush, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Trump do/did.

AI is pretty cool.

 

[Ashers]

I love to see all these damn AMCs imploding!!!
Any chance we are gonna have $$$ for locums? Although I hear that AZ is the Wild Wild West and Surgeons have to fight to get a physician to do their cases.
No joke. A neurosurgeon has to beg administration for a physician at one hospital in Phoenix?? Tucson??? A 400 bed Trauma 1 where they don’t have Physicians readily available for anesthesia. What a shame.

@Ashers

I started getting cold calls for a permanent job in Tucson, but I didn't have time to listen (a company I had never heard of before). I just bought a house in the Milwaukee area because I really dislike working in AZ (and I've been living with my parents since leaving NM in 2020 -- it was time). Tucson had a few bright spots several years ago, but one brought in CRNAs and Old Pueblo Anesthesia, something happened to them, and I never figured out what, but i was interested in a job there with OPA. It's sad because I do love Tucson, the city, more than Phoenix. (I'm still doing 1099/locums stuff though despite eventually moving my base to MKE.)

Edited. i just looked up sound in Tucson. Sound is where Old Pueblo was -- Tucson medical Center. I volunteered there in college, it was a nice hospital. I was contacted a few times by recruiters for them after the takeover, and I literally laughed at them on the phone. Sometimes I answer my phone just to tell them never to call me again.

 

[CubsDynasty]

I started getting cold calls for a permanent job in Tucson, but I didn't have time to listen (a company I had never heard of before). I just bought a house in the Milwaukee area because I really dislike working in AZ (and I've been living with my parents since leaving NM in 2020 -- it was time). Tucson had a few bright spots several years ago, but one brought in CRNAs and Old Pueblo Anesthesia, something happened to them, and I never figured out what, but i was interested in a job there with OPA. It's sad because I do love Tucson, the city, more than Phoenix. (I'm still doing 1099/locums stuff though despite eventually moving my base to MKE.)

Edited. i just looked up sound in Tucson. Sound is where Old Pueblo was -- Tucson medical Center. I volunteered there in college, it was a nice hospital. I was contacted a few times by recruiters for them after the takeover, and I literally laughed at them on the phone. Sometimes I answer my phone just to tell them never to call me again.

Actually Sound works at TMC-Rincon, not TMC. It’s a brand new hospital with only a few ORs that opened this year and it’s staffing model is physician only. IES is the group that took over for OPA at TMC last year. I think some other group is taking over at Houghton for Envision this year. If you want to work in Tucson now is absolutely the time with all the turmoil. Heard even Banner University is paying locums well.

 

[Ashers]

Actually Sound works at TMC-Rincon, not TMC. It’s a brand new hospital with only a few ORs that opened this year and it’s staffing model is physician only. IES is the group that took over for OPA at TMC last year. I think some other group is taking over at Houghton for Envision this year. If you want to work in Tucson now is absolutely the time with all the turmoil. Heard even Banner University is paying locums well.

Good to know. I found something when i googled that just said TMC.

 

[CCM-MD]

They lost their contract with the Tenet owned hospitals in Tucson (St. Joseph's, St. Mary's etc.). They staff the ER, hospitalist, ICU, not sure about anesthesia. From what I hear, it sounds like Tenet is planning to employ the docs directly instead.

 

[ItBurnsInMyHand]

Actually Sound works at TMC-Rincon, not TMC. It’s a brand new hospital with only a few ORs that opened this year and it’s staffing model is physician only. IES is the group that took over for OPA at TMC last year. I think some other group is taking over at Houghton for Envision this year. If you want to work in Tucson now is absolutely the time with all the turmoil. Heard even Banner University is paying locums well.

Wouldn’t mind relocating there but would have to get my ducks in a row and would be looking at summer 2026. Is locums still a feasible market out there, do we expect it to continue? And what, if any, agency is staffing?

 

[CubsDynasty]

Wouldn’t mind relocating there but would have to get my ducks in a row and would be looking at summer 2026. Is locums still a feasible market out there, do we expect it to continue? And what, if any, agency is staffing?

Ask again in summer 2026, no clue what will happen in the next year.