Typical application outcomes

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This is my second time applying. I applied to ~25 schools but so far only have 4 waitlists and 1 rejection. Are these typical outcomes?

My LizzyM is ~77 and I have great extracurriculars and research experiences. I know my interview skills aren't too great but I've worked on them as well. Any comments would be appreciated.
 
I wouldn't be suprised if you get into one of those 4 waitlisted schools. I think my Lizzy M is lower and I was accepted at one school and am on hold at another (applied to 16 total). So I think there's a lot of people like yourself that are good candidates and unfortunately won't hear acceptance until the spring. Most people only get into one school.
 
Thanks for the feedback.
Sorry I meant only one post interview rejection. around 10 of them have rejected me already. I'm fine with the pre interview results, just skeptical about the post interview results. I'm astounded that I have such a bad rate post interview.
 
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VIZ1 said:
Thanks for the feedback.
Sorry I meant only one post interview rejection. around 10 of them have rejected me already. I'm fine with the pre interview results, just skeptical about the post interview results. I'm astounded that I have such a bad rate post interview.
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Did you have a mix of schools, or was it mostly/all top-tier? That might be a part of it. I have around the same LizzyM and only applied to a couple of top-tiers.
 
GotIronKnee said:
Did you have a mix of schools, or was it mostly/all top-tier? That might be a part of it. I have around the same LizzyM and only applied to a couple of top-tiers.
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I applied to a mix of schools but mostly top tiers are interviewing me for some reason. Still a couple of the schools that interviewed me were mid-tier though.
 
VIZ1 said:
I applied to a mix of schools but mostly top tiers are interviewing me for some reason. Still a couple of the schools that interviewed me were mid-tier though.
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Yeah that makes sense. I got a half mid-tier half top-tier interview ratio. It might just be that the top-tiers are incredibly competitive, but don't lose hope! You're on some waitlists, so that means you didn't do horribly. You're an incredibly applicant for even getting on waitlists of all those amazing schools! I'm still waiting on two top tiers to get back to me post II (I only attended 3 interviews due to monetary issues though), so I feel the dread of the wait. Best of luck to us both!
 
Well, it depends. If your application was competitive for the top tiers, then I don't believe it's completely typical. But my answer also depends on how many interviews you got because that's more indicative. If you applied to 25 schools and got 5 IIs resulting in what you listed, then that probably speaks more about your interview skills. If they interview you, presumably you're competitive for the school - or at least within competitive range, typically.
 
The majority of people who apply to med school do not get accepted.

Of those that do, the majority of them have only a single acceptance.

On the surface, I suspect that your interview skills are the predominant reason for your poor luck.




VIZ1 said:
This is my second time applying. I applied to ~25 schools but so far only have 4 waitlists and 1 rejection. Are these typical outcomes?

My LizzyM is ~77 and I have great extracurriculars and research experiences. I know my interview skills aren't too great but I've worked on them as well. Any comments would be appreciated.
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efle said:
Isn't it more like 25-75% get rejected post interview?? What schools accept 95% of interviewed students
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I think he's talking about outright rejections. Plenty of schools waitlist a majority of interviewees, but only a fraction are accepted/rejected at the initial decision post-II (from what I've seen and heard).
 
I'd add how many interviews you had with those numbers OP. Remember - if a school invites you to an interview, then you are qualified to be accepted on paper.

What is it about your interview skills that you think is lacking? Are you able to reflect on your skills? What feedback have you received during mock interviews? Did you call back the schools you interviewed and were rejected at to see why they rejected you?

I'm giving you a lot to think about. Any thoughts?
 
Koprulu said:
Some schools, e.g. Case Western, seem to reject pretty liberally
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I'll be able to give a better accounting of this in a few weeks when the rest of the decisions come out, but at the moment I have two acceptances from highly ranked schools and one rejection from a highly ranked school. I didn't feel like anything in particular went wrong in the case of the rejection, and the acceptances suggest I'm not completely out of my mind.
 
I am discussing being rejected by the Adcom within a 1-3 week time frame, post-interview.

Every time my Adcom meets, we review ~40-75 people. From this group, maybe one will be rejected.


gonnif said:
just clarify, being immediately rejected post interviewed, the equivalent of being blackballed, is uncommon. However being evaluated, then reviewed by adcom is the much more common modality
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how many interviews do those who get interviews typically get? In the past, I've heard most people only get 1 interview, is that still true?
 
Here is the distribution for accepted applicants (a.k.a matriculants)

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^Note bins change on the bottom chart
 
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Why is there a bar for accepted students with 0 interview invitations? Is that through a guaranteed-admit program or something?
 
Stats noise, maybe that's the percent of people that flew through the survey clicking random stuff? Alternatively I think there is at least one school out there that does a phone interview?
 
efle said:
Stats noise, maybe that's the percent of people that flew through the survey clicking random stuff? Alternatively I think there is at least one school out there that does a phone interview?
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Not to mention I wonder if combined programs are included in this.
 
efle said:
I think most BS/MD programs still have you do interview day right? Maybe some don't though that would make sense !
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As far as I know, Penn State's (through the honors college) doesn't have an interview. I have a few friends who are in that and they never mentioned the interview to me.
 
We get:

5000 apps
Interview 500
Accept 250
Seat ~100

Of those 250 who aren't accepted outright, 97-99% be wait listed.


gonnif said:
are these full acceptance and WL? So I guess we are looking at these from two different vantage points. First from my rough summary starting from 100% of all applicants. Yours from 100% of all interviewees.

what is your ratio/percent of II to applicants?
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According to the bar >3% of applicants got more than 1 interview but attended only 1. #confidence
 
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Keep hope alive. You have 4 waitlists and it is still relatively early in the cycle for offers. Those top tier schools may be waiting for the LizzyM 80+ applicants to make their decisions regarding matriculation before going to the waitlist. Give it two more weeks then start worrying and thinking about whether to reapply in the next cycle with a serious effort to improve your interview skills in the interim.
 
LizzyM said:
Keep hope alive. You have 4 waitlists and it is still relatively early in the cycle for offers. Those top tier schools may be waiting for the LizzyM 80+ applicants to make their decisions regarding matriculation before going to the waitlist. Give it two more weeks then start worrying and thinking about whether to reapply in the next cycle with a serious effort to improve your interview skills in the interim.
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Thanks
I've just been on so many waitlists in two previous cycles that I've lose faith in waitlists at all. I feel like most schools just waitlist most people they interview

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gonnif said:
Nearly half of all matriculating medical students gain a single acceptance to medical school
A little over half had three interview offers or less
Nearly 60% attended three interviews or less
And 22% attended a single interview

https://www.aamc.org/download/450608/data/msq2015report.pdf (p26)
2015 Matriculating Student Questionnaire (MSQ)
(https://www.aamc.org/data/msq/)


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Thanks
Stats can be quite reassuring

I wonder if there are stats showing when people usually get their first acceptance

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gonnif said:
Stats for that would be mostly meaningless as only some important high level way points are standardized via AMCAS while schools run their individual schedule between those points.
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Oh yeah
You're right about that. I forgot to consider that some schools don't offer acceptances until later in the cycle too.

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gonnif said:
Nearly half of all matriculating medical students gain a single acceptance to medical school
A little over half had three interview offers or less
Nearly 60% attended three interviews or less
And 22% attended a single interview

https://www.aamc.org/download/450608/data/msq2015report.pdf (p26)
2015 Matriculating Student Questionnaire (MSQ)
(https://www.aamc.org/data/msq/)


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Are these stats only in regards to allopathic schools?


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