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i was looking at some applicants applying to some top 10-15 schools from uc irvine. even though its not the greatest of schools, it does have some strengths and some of the alumni have gone to great med schools.

if anybody who applied and got accepted to some top schools, can i pm you about certain criteria that will help me get on that path too? looks like applicant #01938 and such got it made 😉.

thanks for the help guys!
 
anybody else? any current uci students apply last year or any uci alumni who got into great schools got any thoughts for a pre-med track student?
 
Don't take humanities core. Take writing 39 series and a humanities of your choice. I'm a current pre-med at the University of Civics and Integras (really, UCI isn't that bad of a school. You could have ended up at a CSU...) and I got so sick of the people in my dorm last year whining about studying for that class.

My other piece of advice (I'm going to start it next quarter) is to start physics at the end of your second year or the summer between second and third year so that you get optics before the MCAT.
 
well, i'm a 2nd year at uci, and i had the dilemma to take physics in the summer... but i hear students from other private schools, i.e. stanford, come over for the summer and mess up the curve. possibly is true.... but yes, should i take physics 3 or 7? i really don't want to overload myself, and i was wondering if optics is that important on the mcats.
 
bbaek said:
well, i'm a 2nd year at uci, and i had the dilemma to take physics in the summer... but i hear students from other private schools, i.e. stanford, come over for the summer and mess up the curve. possibly is true.... but yes, should i take physics 3 or 7? i really don't want to overload myself, and i was wondering if optics is that important on the mcats.

I'm a fourth year biology major at UCI so I'll try to offer any some advice. The schools solid when compared to other public schools. The main thing I don't like about it is the extremely large classes which you know can easily be over 300 people in a single lecture.

If you're numbers are solid enough you can apply to a lot of top schools from UCI. I know of two brothers, one of which was accepted to the UCI medical school and his younger brother got into UCLA's medical school and both were from UCI.

I'm currently applying this year and managed to get an acceptance at SLU. It probably isn't the greatest school to many people but I'm happy just to get my foot in the door and know that I have a future. Going through the application process, I have come to realize how difficult and grueling it can be, espcially if your stats are more on the "normal" side. I have managed interviewed at some bigger named schools (University of Iowa, and the Ohio State Univ) but I'll find out about those later on.

First off, if you're thinking about medical school, don't take the physics 7 series. It's meant for engineers and it will be a waste of time taking more advanced classes then necessary, especially when you will be balancing other difficult biology classes. The 3 series is fine. I probably would recommend taking 3A/3B in between your second and third years. I took it the traditional way, during my third year, and it was sort of a pain in the ass learning the new physics stuff on my own. But it is not impossible. So if you want to save your summer for doing extracurriculars and such, don't be afraid to just take physics with everyone else.

About students coming down from Stanford and other schools for summer school. During my summer between my third and fourth year I took Physics 3LB and my class had a bunch of people from UCSD and UCLA but the class was pretty straighforward and I got an A without having to put in too muich effort even though the class is curved.

Probably what I would suggest, is save physics labs for later on and take the classes. Labs as you probably already know are a waste of time and physics is no different.

But if you want to get into the "big" name schools you need high GPA, high MCAT, and good extra curriculars. Sorry that it's so generic but that's just how it is.
 
well, i am aiming for a minimum 3.8 science gpa and a 40+ MCAT score by the time of application (end of 3rd year) in order to get to ucla. would you think that this would be a good enough? currently, i am not as hot and i need straight A's in all classes to reach the 3.8.
 
For O-chem, I have 2 words for you. TAKE KING. Dr King is really nice (trust me, go to office hours), has wonderfull notes (you buy her notes from Engineering Copy center and it is the same thing she uses for her overheads, so you just fill it in and your ready to go), and anyone can get an A in her class (160+ on final out of ~200-220=automatic A in class, but final is tough).
 
well, i'm taking woerpel because the time's didn't work out. but any other suggestions from uci students will be most hopeful 🙂!
 
bbaek said:
well, i am aiming for a minimum 3.8 science gpa and a 40+ MCAT score by the time of application (end of 3rd year) in order to get to ucla. would you think that this would be a good enough? currently, i am not as hot and i need straight A's in all classes to reach the 3.8.

No offense, but most people don't "aim" for a 40+ MCAT. Lol. :laugh: 😉
 
yeah, I think a 38 might be good enough...
 
UCLAstudent said:
No offense, but most people don't "aim" for a 40+ MCAT. Lol. :laugh: 😉

hehe, well i have high expectations. and hopefully my expectations will be right up there with my motivation and study habits. :laugh:
 
bbaek said:
well, i am aiming for a minimum 3.8 science gpa and a 40+ MCAT score by the time of application (end of 3rd year) in order to get to ucla. would you think that this would be a good enough? currently, i am not as hot and i need straight A's in all classes to reach the 3.8.


i dont mean to discourage you but it is still early in the game. realistically, a 35 in your MCAT is more than enough for a school like UCLA. U will know when you start studying for it. and when you start to volunteer and start doing research it slightly changes your high expectations. One day you are going to realize that big name college is not equal to great med school. Just do well in your classes and try to gain more interest in the field not in the reputation.
Physics 3 series during the summer is no big deal Stanford, UCLA, SD kids are not all that trust me.
 
aceking said:
Physics 3 series during the summer is no big deal Stanford, UCLA, SD kids are not all that trust me.

Besides, the kids from Stanford who take it over the summer elsewhere often do so because they're afraid they can't make A's during the regular school year...
 
I'm a stanford student who took physics at UCI over the summer. The lecture classes were so big that the ~10 of us didn't affect the curve. The lab classes, however, only gave As to the top 4 students, so maybe some students got screwed.

I felt like we were unwelcomed by people scoring below a C in the class because we show a more gunner student culture.... but we were mostly harmless to fellow pre-meds who were as motivated as us
 
meany8888 said:
I'm a stanford student who took physics at UCI over the summer. The lecture classes were so big that the ~10 of us didn't affect the curve. The lab classes, however, only gave As to the top 4 students, so maybe some students got screwed.

I felt like we were unwelcomed by people scoring below a C in the class because we show a more gunner student culture.... but we were mostly harmless to fellow pre-meds who were as motivated as us

i agree
 
aceking said:
i dont mean to discourage you but it is still early in the game. realistically, a 35 in your MCAT is more than enough for a school like UCLA. U will know when you start studying for it. and when you start to volunteer and start doing research it slightly changes your high expectations. One day you are going to realize that big name college is not equal to great med school. Just do well in your classes and try to gain more interest in the field not in the reputation.
Physics 3 series during the summer is no big deal Stanford, UCLA, SD kids are not all that trust me.

well, i'm currently doing research this quarter in longhurst's lab, which i might say is pretty demanding, and going to also start volunteering at hoag this quarter as well. i think i will have a pretty good idea of my schedule by this quarter in order to know what will start coming up for my third year.

and sure, the reputation of a school may not correlate with its greatness in education, but i love LA and UCLA provides a plethora of opportunities that most schools can't boast about.
 
bbaek said:
well, i'm currently doing research this quarter in longhurst's lab, which i might say is pretty demanding, and going to also start volunteering at hoag this quarter as well. i think i will have a pretty good idea of my schedule by this quarter in order to know what will start coming up for my third year.

and sure, the reputation of a school may not correlate with its greatness in education, but i love LA and UCLA provides a plethora of opportunities that most schools can't boast about.

Hey! Longhurst was one of my lecturers this quarter in physio and I volunteered at Hoag. GREAT GREAT GREAT program. The experiences I had their were invaluable! pm me if you want to chat!
 
I agree with hoag, I love it. The problem that some people have is that its value highly correlates with your effort in the program. I'm so happy that I'm going back to the ECU this upcoming rotation.
 
well, i'm glad some students from uci went to hoag. can you tell me anything about being a coordinator? is that a promotion of some sort or an application process?

also, i actually saw longhurst in a research group meeting today. he wasn't as intimidating as i thought he was. pretty nice looking guy that pretty much explained stuff as we went over the data.
 
im a 4th year at uci and i have taken many ud bio courses.

anyways, here are the "easiest" ones:
bio 109 - physiology (with hicks)
bio 121 - microbiology (woolfolk)
bio 163 - endocrinology (yahr)
bio 136a - human anatomy (doesnt matter, its just pure memorization)

if anyone has any questions about classes at uci, pm me.
 
jtank said:
im a 4th year at uci and i have taken many ud bio courses.

anyways, here are the "easiest" ones:
bio 109 - physiology (with hicks)
bio 121 - microbiology (woolfolk)
bio 163 - endocrinology (yahr)
bio 136a - human anatomy (doesnt matter, its just pure memorization)

if anyone has any questions about classes at uci, pm me.

will endocrinology be very helpful or just helpful for the MCAT? and should it be taken in my third year going up to the MCAT?
 
bbaek said:
well, i'm glad some students from uci went to hoag. can you tell me anything about being a coordinator? is that a promotion of some sort or an application process?

also, i actually saw longhurst in a research group meeting today. he wasn't as intimidating as i thought he was. pretty nice looking guy that pretty much explained stuff as we went over the data.

I was a coordinator at Hoag. I coordinated the Oncology floor and the Gyn/Uro floor. You do have to apply, I believe, and there is an interview process. It's a great way to get a letter of rec that is more personal than the ones the director probably gives to all of the other volunteers
.
 
Spitting Camel said:
I was a coordinator at Hoag. I coordinated the Oncology floor and the Gyn/Uro floor. You do have to apply, I believe, and there is an interview process. It's a great way to get a letter of rec that is more personal than the ones the director probably gives to all of the other volunteers
.

so the more years/time you work there, the better the odds of being a coordinator?
 
Spitting Camel said:
I was a coordinator at Hoag. I coordinated the Oncology floor and the Gyn/Uro floor. You do have to apply, I believe, and there is an interview process. It's a great way to get a letter of rec that is more personal than the ones the director probably gives to all of the other volunteers
.

Then there is the other LOR option: get a charge nurse to write it.
 
Siggy said:
Then there is the other LOR option: get a charge nurse to write it.

I can only imagine what a charge nurse would write about me, if they even paid attention to me at all. I came 15 minutes late to every shift, I took lunch/dinner breaks, and I left 15 minutes early. For the time that I was actually there, I spent most of my time reading the magazine that I brought with me. During some of my shifts, I met some people who were worse than me. This one guy came 1 hr late and left 45 minutes early. Then there are people on the other end of the spectrum, they just love volunteering at Hoag.

I'm a 4th year at UCI right now. Applying this cycle. I'm not sure what advice I can give you besides get good stats and good ECs. I've gotten a lot of interviews at some good schools. I have good stats, but my ECs aren't stellar, which is what is probably what is keeping me from being a great applicant.
 
Yea, I'm on the other end then you are....
 
bbaek said:
so the more years/time you work there, the better the odds of being a coordinator?


It's not about how long you work there, it's about how much heart you put into your work. Believe it or not, nurses report back to the coordinators and we find out who does a good job and who doesn't. This is reflected in letters of rec where some people get screwed with the "he worked here for so and so long and did so and so" letters. Believe me, I've read one. It was sad.

I think I was there for 6 months, maybe less, before I became a coordinator. It's a time commitment, that's for sure. I put over 500 hours into that program, 300+ floor hours and the rest coordinator hours. I wouldn't change a thing. I loved it.
 
Spitting Camel said:
It's not about how long you work there, it's about how much heart you put into your work. Believe it or not, nurses report back to the coordinators and we find out who does a good job and who doesn't. This is reflected in letters of rec where some people get screwed with the "he worked here for so and so long and did so and so" letters. Believe me, I've read one. It was sad.

I think I was there for 6 months, maybe less, before I became a coordinator. It's a time commitment, that's for sure. I put over 500 hours into that program, 300+ floor hours and the rest coordinator hours. I wouldn't change a thing. I loved it.

wow. so over 800+ hours?
 
bbaek said:
will endocrinology be very helpful or just helpful for the MCAT? and should it be taken in my third year going up to the MCAT?

well, im assuming u want to take ud bio classes that are both easy and helpful for the mcat, this is one of them, so obviously u want to take it before u take the mcat. u will not miss any hormone-related question on the mcat, thats for sure.
 
bbaek said:
wow. so over 800+ hours?

Oh, no... I meant 500+ hours total. Over 300 were on the floor actually volunteering. I was there for a year an a half before I stopped.

Are you persian and is your name boback? or baback?
 
Spitting Camel said:
Oh, no... I meant 500+ hours total. Over 300 were on the floor actually volunteering. I was there for a year an a half before I stopped.

Are you persian and is your name boback? or baback?

i'm actually korean. my last name is baek, first name brian. and i do want to become a coordinator :laugh:

oh btw, what do you exactly do as a coordinator?
 
bbaek said:
i'm actually korean. my last name is baek, first name brian. and i do want to become a coordinator :laugh:

oh btw, what do you exactly do as a coordinator?

:laugh: I was WAY off...

Well, you are in charge of schedules - making sure they are updated and that your CCEs are signing up for shifts. You answer concerns of the CCEs and nurses, you attend leadership meetings once a month, or once every two weeks, I forget. It's really a great way to get to know the program directors and to develop leadership skills. Oh, and you are in charge of reprimanding bad CCEs (I hated that part). I used to go in at random times to make sure the CCes were there :meanie:
 
My 1 major problem that I see is that the training for the ECU is not enough. I feel bad for the techs and nurses becasue just when they get us nice and trained, we leave to go to another floor, so they're stuck with training us to do the basics again.

What I do find interesting that it seems that as long as the nurses/techs are comfortable with us doing it, then we can do it (except for some random stupid things like not being able to transfer blood samples to the lab. its 20 feet down the hall. PM me spitting if you know why), but give us this stupid "If you need a license to do it, don't do it" crap. Does that mean that when I put the patient on O2 (i.e. nurse askes me to hook pt up to monitor, I do, spO2 is below 92, walk back, nurse agrees that pt needs O2, I confirm route and liter flow, and then start O2) that I'm breaking the rules because I'm starting a pt on a drug because I read the monitor and am using the training I got during EMT class (last class is on saturday, NREMT-B test here I come) that I am breaking the rules? Probably I am, but no one really cares.
 
anymore uc irvine ppl out there that can help out a pre-med/doctor-in-mind driven student with inspiring or helpful words? 😉
 
airadface said:
do they ask/talk about your gpa for the coordinator's position? 😳

not sure. went to the training days on sat and sun. another one this sunday. probably have to put gpa in somewhere. they always do 😀
 
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