UMDNJ Discussion Thread 2009-2010
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Hey guys, just wanted to wish you all good luck in getting in. I was at UMDNJ on Friday and they had the president of the Student Government (or something like that..) talk to us and she said she had been accepted off the waitlist in the summer. My point is just don't give up!! ^_^
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I was told the same thing.
I was told the class was full all the way back in mid-February.
It seems that historically, the waitlist at this school moves quite a bit.
well just because the class is now "full" doesn't necessarily mean that everyone will attend right? People still have the opportunity to drop if they choose to go elsewhere....I feel like especially at UMDNJ where the deposit isn't as significant as other schools, most people would hold their spot because it isn't as much of a financial "hit"
I believe that when a school says that a class is 'full', it means that they've given out all of the initial accepted slots they're willing to chance on. For example - I know that a few years ago, UMichigan Medical School would offer 3 acceptances for every open seat in the class. They knew from history that they would be pretty safe (i.e. they won't overadmit) doing so.
So, yeah. There's a good chance that they will take people from the waitlist after interviews are over in mid-April. Of course, weird things do happen. I think Western had only taken 2 people off of the waitlist by June last year, and I read something ambiguous on SDN that possibly indicated less than 10 people getting off of the UMDNJ waitlist in 2004.
Then again, somebody else here has said that they were only in the "top 50%" of the waitlist at UMDNJ and made it in around June, I think. My point is that it changes from year to year.
When I interviewed with Dr. Krueger, he told me that UMDNJ-SOM does not accept more people than there are open seats. So for each person that declines acceptance one person gets pulled off the wait list. By all accounts the wait list at SOM moves a lot. The woman I spoke to on the phone at admissions said that based on my position on the list she was confident I would be offered a spot, she just couldn't be sure when. Hopefully all of us wait-ers will get good news soon.
Do you know what percent you were in?
I called today and although they met today she said they will not be making phone calls until next week. I have no clue why that is!
I was also told by the receptionist that on average about 25% of the waitlist gets accepted.
Does anyone know what those nice looking condos by UMDNJ are called? (the ones where construction is being done to add new buildings)
I was upset when I learned that you need to have Windows for certain programs that are being used by UMDNJ (I have a Mac). I have a copy of XP that someone gave me, but I'd rather try to do this legally (so much has changed over the years 🙂). Does anyone know where I can get a heavy duty student discount? I don't want to drop $200 for Windows 7 Home Premium.
My tuition is still listed as $35K. Hmmm...?
Mine still says 35k also, which I assume is the In State amount even though I am an Out Of State student. (I highly doubt OOS tuition dropped) I'm having difficulty knowing how much aid I'll need without knowing the actual OOS tuition increase amounts... frustrating.
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Err.. I'm not sure if it's fair to count the 31 million$ into that.. seems like it was a one-shot deal anyway.
So you've decided on SOM?
congrats Cheshyre! did you happen to know where you were on the waitlist? I'm just trying to figure out how much of the waitlist has moved so far. i'm waitlisted too and really anxious about the whole thing.
I was "in the top ten." I didn't bother asking whether it was top ten by position or top ten by percentage.
It seems that historically the waitlist moves quite a bit. The waitlist would've just started moving since interviews only ended a little while ago.
There are many different safety nets available. The school does it hardest to ensure that you complete the program.
1) Small Class size. Because of this, the professors know who you are and they are available to help you. You can meet them after class or set up an appointment to meet with you. They will not let you leave the meeting until you feel that you understand the material.
2) No GPA. Because of this, there is no class rank. As a result, there is a cooperation among your fellow students where if you ask for help, they are more the happy to do so. Usually the upper classmen can help you out. There is no competition among students because there is no curve in the exams either.
3) The Center for Teaching and Learning. This is a department whose only goal is to help the students succeed. Ranging from advice on study habits to test taking skills, to hiring upper classmen as student tutors at no cost to you. Sometimes the upper classmen will run a review session for example: The Pathology Club reviewed Histology Slides, SOSA did an Anatomy Review. Student TA for microbiology would do a review before each exam. UAAO doing a review before the OMM exams.
The administration that admitted you believes that you can do the work and they invested a lot in you. As a result, the school will do all it can short of taking the exams for you to ensure that you will succeed.
I hope that this answered your questions. If you have any others, let me know.
First, congratulations!
Second, only 4%? That is fantastic. I was expecting a much higher increase.
Yes it is for MD schools but some of the accepted students may have applied to MD schools and been accepted and deposited at both SOM and RWJ or NJMS. A lot of people may apply to all 3 NJ schools due to the in-state tuition. So some of those people may decide to go to NJMS or RWJ and withdraw from SOM.
They may not need to but I know if you matriculate (not sure if that means you start classes or just make the deposit) at one NJ school you automatically get withdrawn from the others. And even if that's not the case, if you plan to go to another, its not to your advantage to keep the other acceptance as you'll start getting forms to fill out, more bills, etc. So hopefully if someone intends to go elsewhere, they will withdraw even if they don't have to.
Beth
Beth
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..but the whole point of holding on to multiple deposits is because you haven't figured out where to withdraw from yet. You're paying the extra money to buy yourself more decision-making time.
I received this email a few moments ago:
"May 12, 2010
Dear Accepted Student,
We have just been advised that MacBooks are compatible with the programs that you will need to access while at UMDNJ-SOM. So if you own a MAC computer, you can use it!
We will forward additional information as soon as it becomes available. If you have any questions, please contact our Admissions Office at (856) 566-7050.
Sincerely,
Paula Watkins
Director of Enrollment Services"
I don't need to spend $200 for a copy of Windows 7!
"May 12, 2010
Dear Accepted Student,
We have just been advised that MacBooks are compatible with the programs that you will need to access while at UMDNJ-SOM. So if you own a MAC computer, you can use it!
We will forward additional information as soon as it becomes available. If you have any questions, please contact our Admissions Office at (856) 566-7050.
Sincerely,
Paula Watkins
Director of Enrollment Services"
I don't need to spend $200 for a copy of Windows 7!
Go for it! I just got one and I like the Mac OS better. It takes some getting used to the Mac way of doing things, but you'll get the hang of it.
anyone know how the waitlist is working... besides that it's ranked? i wonder how much has moved...
Thanks! This is my first acceptance so I'm actually really excited...
I didn't know that we could find out where we are on the waitlist, so I never thought to ask! Sorry - if I find out in the next couple of days, I'll be sure to post.
Good luck to those still waiting.
anyone else off the waitlist?
Waitlisted (OOS) on the lower 1/4. Anybody from the 1/2 get in off the waitlist. Does anybody know how many people have locked up the spots.
That's what I was told repeatedly by the admissions office. However, I've since withdrawn (for other reasons than tuition.. I actually chose a way more expensive school).
just to give you guys a heads up, UMDNJ-SOM does fin aid BEFORE they have the budget. what happens is the frequently give you less than you need for cost of attendance. You end up having to get emergency loan dispersments.
just an FYI. if the budget comes in at 4-8% higher increase in tuition, you will be scrambling for money.
just an FYI. if the budget comes in at 4-8% higher increase in tuition, you will be scrambling for money.
kennedy actually wants UMDNJ out of the hospital. there are talks of rotations going to Vineland, NJ.
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not a good one. avoid the 2 gyms in lindenwold at all costs though on whitehorse pike. people have had issues with them and billing.
I think this is what Pharma is referring to. However, it seems like more of an expansion rather than a relocation.
http://www.nj.com/cumberland/index.ssf/2010/05/umdnj_officials_eplore_their_o.html
I would like to know where you are getting your information. I have not heard much on this end. If you think about it UMDNJ provides almost free workforce to kennedy in the form of students and residents. Unless kennedy would like to start their own residency program or drop having any residents at all, I do not foresee this as happening.
Regarding the Vineland information. We are expanding the class size and putting almost 300 students in Kennedy per year (150 3rd and 150 4th years) is not very fair to the students nor to kennedy. Therefor the school is looking to expand the hospitals that will allow our students to rotate through. So rather than having you find your own rotation sites in 3rd year, you will have a choice of Kennedy, Vineland, Jersey Shore, St. Christophers, St. Josephs.
All of this that you are reading is very, very, very preliminary. All talk right now. But I do not foresee that Kennedy will sever its relationship with UMDNJ. Unless you know something that I do not.
I am very concerned that this provison will change. With the way the N ew Jersey finances are, I dont think this wonderful / Unique benefit will be continued, I understand UMDNJ is reviewing this provison seriously and may withdraw this anytime without notice, making us scramble for funding.
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