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i bet you're the same kid who said "who the hell needs algebra!?" back in middle school.
polarnut said:i bet you're the same kid who said "who the hell needs algebra!?" back in middle school.
Didn't we all 😀polarnut said:i bet you're the same kid who said "who the hell needs algebra!?" back in middle school.
If the admissions committee has any common sense, they wont look heavily at your 1991 grades.....I'm sure you weren't planning on becoming a dentist then.sumozmom said:I really have nothing to show - i've said it all in my past posts....I have a 2.5 in my BS Accounting Grad in 1991.( Sci GPS (3.0)
I just started my per-rec in Jan.06...w/ chem and Calc so far Some b's some a's....I will take my DAT April of 2007. I talked to Admissnions and they said I really need A's even to be considered and 20's on DAT.
SO....I'm Freeeeekin b/c I'm busting my butt and all i'm getting is hi B's. I won't even take o-chem till Fall 06, So I have a while to go. I'm panicing b/c this is what I really want to do and balancing twins / and working 45 hrs a week is tough on top of school.
So I was wondering what others got into school with...Inspirational Success stories.
At the end of my pre-rec journey ...I will come back to this post and put mine in...🙂
colt said:If the admissions committee has any common sense, they wont look heavily at your 1991 grades.....I'm sure you weren't planning on becoming a dentist then.
I agree......it was so easy for me that I made a D in it the first time so that when adcoms read my app they wouldn't know how easy it was. Pretty slick huh?NA4242 said:Organic chemistry was my easiest class. I got an A+ in that class 🙂
A C in organic probably wouldn't be a big deal, overall. I'm saying that if someone in her position could get a 3.0+ on the sci. prereqs and tie in the full time job+kids into the personal statement/interveiw, they may have a good shot at DS. If you really love the dental field, it's worth the uncertain outcome. You miss all the shots you don't take...and various other sayings 😀Dental Jedi said:If you are struggling with not gettin A's wait till you take organic chemistry. You will get a low grade for sure. Shoot for a C.
If they said you HAVE TO GET ALL A's then your wasting money and time.
Sorry!
colt said:A C in organic probably wouldn't be a big deal, overall. I'm saying that if someone in her position could get a 3.0+ on the sci. prereqs and tie in the full time job+kids into the personal statement/interveiw, they may have a good shot at DS. If you really love the dental field, it's worth the uncertain outcome. You miss all the shots you don't take...and various other sayings 😀
Dr2BSoon said:If you are a minority, that probably helps a lot too. Minorities don't have the achieve the same high numbers that white students have to.
samwY said:are Asians considered minorities? i ask this considering the fact that I heard dental schools in cali 50%+ Asian...
astrife said:How can you take pride in something like this? A sub 3.0 in college to me says you guys basically slacked your entire 4 years yet you get to enjoy the benefits of a "profession". It kind of just pisses me off to be honest. They should make dentistry appart of medical school and then this kind of stuff wouldn't happen.
astrife said:How can you take pride in something like this? A sub 3.0 in college to me says you guys basically slacked your entire 4 years yet you get to enjoy the benefits of a "profession". It kind of just pisses me off to be honest. They should make dentistry appart of medical school and then this kind of stuff wouldn't happen.
Yes, I also would like to hear some more success stories........not opinions that have nothing to do with the topic of this thread.sumozmom said:SO .....anymore success stories>?😉
packbacker said:This has to be one of the more ignorant statements I've read in a long time. You have no idea how someone arrived at a sub 3.0 undergrad GPA nor the circumstances surrounding it. Take your foot out of your mouth and head out of your rear end...it'll make your argument a lot clearer.
thankyou - good post!Chemiguy said:I can't agree more. I come from a music conservatory and for a reason I deicided to throw myself into the whole science intensive post-bac pre-req courses and it's been about 3 semesters and I am actually orgo chem II and physics II away from completing the pre-req.
I come to this forum to gain hope and sometimes feel somewhat better by reading about people in my shoe who get into d-schools.
For a person who did not have any science courses in their bac or who picked it up after awhile since graduation is, in my opinion a lot more difficult for various reasons.
For a college students who decided early on to become a dentist, well congrats. But life is one tricky bastard who throws you curve balls more often than others. It certainly has its way of catching up to you.
what I am trying to say is that if you have a valuble info and/or opinion to share with others, then feel free to do so. IF you don't then just read on and then leave. Besides whether she spendsmore time browing web than studying is NONE of your business.
Good luck everyone who's in my shoe and hope to hear more success stories in the future.
the topic is about success stories ....i'm sure there are other topics out there about beating each other up....astrife said:Let me emphasize that this is an anonymous forum, and to put it plainly my opinion has just as much right to be here as yours. Whether you like the fact that I pointed out that someone with a sub 3.0 gpa is completely unqualified for graduate or professional school is none of my concern.
NA4242 said:Organic chemistry was my easiest class. I got an A+ in that class 🙂
astrife said:How can you take pride in something like this? A sub 3.0 in college to me says you guys basically slacked your entire 4 years yet you get to enjoy the benefits of a "profession". It kind of just pisses me off to be honest. They should make dentistry appart of medical school and then this kind of stuff wouldn't happen.
AADSAS counted my A+ credits as 4.3 even though my undergrad only counted them as 4.0dentropy said:Too bad AADSAS only counts that as an A in your GPA calculations
astrife said:Let me emphasize that this is an anonymous forum, and to put it plainly my opinion has just as much right to be here as yours. Whether you like the fact that I pointed out that someone with a sub 3.0 gpa is completely unqualified for graduate or professional school is none of my concern.
astrife said:Let me emphasize that this is an anonymous forum, and to put it plainly my opinion has just as much right to be here as yours. Whether you like the fact that I pointed out that someone with a sub 3.0 gpa is completely unqualified for graduate or professional school is none of my concern.
astrife said:Let me emphasize that this is an anonymous forum, and to put it plainly my opinion has just as much right to be here as yours. Whether you like the fact that I pointed out that someone with a sub 3.0 gpa is completely unqualified for graduate or professional school is none of my concern.
astrife said:Let me emphasize that this is an anonymous forum, and to put it plainly my opinion has just as much right to be here as yours. Whether you like the fact that I pointed out that someone with a sub 3.0 gpa is completely unqualified for graduate or professional school is none of my concern.
mochafreak said:Your opinion does have a right to be here, I was merely pointing out why your opinion was so narrow-minded. I'll give you another example of how you can get into (and deserve to get into) a professional school with a sub-3.0.
<imagine Dr. Evil describing his childhood and you won't go into a coma...maybe>
When I was 15, I was a junior in high school with straight A's. I wanted to be a fighter pilot/navigator, so I was a major overachiever. I applied to a competitive early-admit program at a very respected engineering-oriented university. The program picks students from across the country and also internationally. I was accepted and when I was 16 I went to my freshman year of college. I lived in a junior dorm and took calc-based engineering physics, calc, chemistry for engineers, FORTRAN programming for engineers, and english. Unfortunately, my high school didn't have honors or AP classes so I never had pre-calc. In fact, I never took high school physics (that would've been senior year). I also had friends for the first time, was away from a VERY overprotective mother, and finally realized that as a girl I was not going to be allowed in a fighter jet. I lost all my focus and not surprisingly my freshman year gpa sucked. I then put myself into a very challenging chemical engineering program for very bad reasons.
After being a miserable engineer for a few years, I decided I wanted to do something positive that directly affected my community. I resigned from my job and became a caretaker at an assisted-living house. At night, I took an EMT-B course. I became a certified EMT and was a volunteer EMT/firefighter, and a professional EMT. I soon realized that I wanted a professional health care career. So, with a 2.73 overall and 2.3 sci gpa I went back to school and started a post-bacc. The first year I took a few courses and worked graveyard shift at the local ER. The second year I took 18 credits of science in one semester and took 19 overall (13 sci) the next semester. I got straight A's (amazing what a little focus can do). I nailed the DAT.
Even though my gpa is a 3.04 and my sci gpa is a 2.97, apparently some adcoms thought my post-bacc 4.0, DAT scores, volunteer and life experience make me qualified to enter a professional program. I'll be (deservedly) going to dental school this fall.
Hopefully some of these stories and a little more life experience will increase your maturity before you become a doctor who unjustly judges his patients.
Toothinator said:ElCubanito...are you Cuban? Just curious.
sumozmom said:great job----this is what i was lookin 4. How did u succed geting a 4.0?
Dr2BSoon said:If you are a minority, that probably helps a lot too. Minorities don't have the achieve the same high numbers that white students have to.
good luck - NYC is my home town 🙂Hybridgen3 said:partied wayyyyy too much fresh and soph years...got my act together junior n senior year...busted my a$$ off for the DATs...n got lucky i guess because i only got one interview...really grateful even though a lot of you guys look down on NYU but sall good...really want to hear back from USC or any west coast schools since im from la but it looks pretty bleak right now as time keeps on ticking away...but see u guys at NYU!!...pretty excited to live in NYC not to mention getting the chance to attend a great dental school...
sci gpa: 2.79
cum gpa: 2.84
AA/TS/PA: 23/24/19
applied: 14 in total...
interview: Temple (Nov)
accepted: NYU (w/o interview)
wow interesting! I didnot think they did that!syn_apse said:AADSAS counted my A+ credits as 4.3 even though my undergrad only counted them as 4.0
sumozmom said:Hello All...
would ya'll identify yourself:
WHAT SCHOOL:
WHAT STATS:
WHAT AGE:
thnx!
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packbacker said:Graduate school was much more focused. For some reason, I had a difficult time taking the HUGE variety of courses offered in undergrad. Focusing down to several related topics in grad school worked wonders for my GPA. 🙂
Joeybag said:I dont question that people w/ sub 3.0s can make great dentists, it just hurts the more qualified applicant whose spot is being taken. I myself am upset by some people getting in w/ sub 3.0's. I for one made a 3.6 overall/3.4-3.5 sci from UNC and 23/21/18 on my DAT's. I however did not get into my state school of UNC. I understand interviews come into play, though I dont feel one day where most people are likely nervous should outweigh 4 yrs of hardwork, extracurriculars, and great test scores. When I read about people w/ sub 3.0s and lower dat's getting in it does upset me. It makes me question effort put forth in undergrad, (studying for my test rather than celebrating a UNC win over Duke etc.) while people who likely slacked off the entire time are getting admitted. And yes the dat is a bit of an equalizer, but anyone who is slightly motivated (and you should if you have sub 3.0) can easily make 20s. I know there is a bigger picture and your application is not just stats but there are plenty of people, who have great grades, DAT's and good volunteering/research/dentistry experiences who arent getting into their number one.
WOWOWOWOWOWOWO- congrats-what was ur secret....ur grades are similas to mine-can i ask what other schools u applied to and whatthe status is....great encouragement thnx-DMD2005 said:Hi - I saw your Rottie picture and I had to answer!
School: Boston University 2001-graduated 2005
Stats: 18 on DAT, 2.3 Science, 2.89 Overall
Age: 28 years old
Do NOT give up - the interviewer might just like you - I was accepted during the BU interview on a Friday! I glowed with excitement all weekend long and then was super-confident on Monday morning at my NYU interview and was accepted there as well...I swear if I hadn't been told in my BU interview that I was accepted, I would've been more nervous at NYU.
sumozmom said:WOWOWOWOWOWOWO- congrats-what was ur secret....ur grades are similas to mine-can i ask what other schools u applied to and whatthe status is....great encouragement thnx-
my rotti is 12 now and has been my best friend 🙂
thnx!wimmcs said:Hi - I wish you luck applying for d-school. I know it's tough w/kids, but it's definitely doable. Be confident, that will help you tremendously, obviously not cocky, but confident, this shows through. Just like the last post, I had been accepted to 3 other schools when I interviewed at AZ and I really wanted to stay here. Quite honestly I wasn't very nervous and I felt super confident. After I told them I got into UW and Iowa, they were like "wow!" so I really think that the fact that I had been accepted to other schools and also that I felt comfortable and myself during the whole interview, helped me to get accepted here. Continue working hard and you'll see the benefits at the end. Good luck!!
don't fprget to post ur stats on www.predents.comDMD2005 said:Hi - I saw your Rottie picture and I had to answer!
School: Boston University 2001-graduated 2005
Stats: 18 on DAT, 2.3 Science, 2.89 Overall
Age: 28 years old
Do NOT give up - the interviewer might just like you - I was accepted during the BU interview on a Friday! I glowed with excitement all weekend long and then was super-confident on Monday morning at my NYU interview and was accepted there as well...I swear if I hadn't been told in my BU interview that I was accepted, I would've been more nervous at NYU.
Sorry to hear you didn't get in to UNC. 50% of me agrees about the stats and people with lesser accomplishment over 4 yrs getting in(not fair). On the other hand, I'm sure many people with great stats got in over people that would've made better doctors(also not fair).Joeybag said:I dont question that people w/ sub 3.0s can make great dentists, it just hurts the more qualified applicant whose spot is being taken. I myself am upset by some people getting in w/ sub 3.0's. I for one made a 3.6 overall/3.4-3.5 sci from UNC and 23/21/18 on my DAT's. I however did not get into my state school of UNC. I understand interviews come into play, though I dont feel one day where most people are likely nervous should outweigh 4 yrs of hardwork, extracurriculars, and great test scores. When I read about people w/ sub 3.0s and lower dat's getting in it does upset me. It makes me question effort put forth in undergrad, (studying for my test rather than celebrating a UNC win over Duke etc.) while people who likely slacked off the entire time are getting admitted. And yes the dat is a bit of an equalizer, but anyone who is slightly motivated (and you should if you have sub 3.0) can easily make 20s. I know there is a bigger picture and your application is not just stats but there are plenty of people, who have great grades, DAT's and good volunteering/research/dentistry experiences who arent getting into their number one.
sumozmom said:WOWOWOWOWOWOWO- congrats-what was ur secret....ur grades are similas to mine-can i ask what other schools u applied to and whatthe status is....great encouragement thnx-
my rotti is 12 now and has been my best friend 🙂