Dismiss Notice
Last chance to give your feedback! Fill out the 2019 SDN Member Survey to let us know what's important to you (and win prizes!)

unfilled IM spots

Discussion in 'Internal Medicine and IM Subspecialties' started by ej6527, Mar 12, 2007.

  1. ej6527

    ej6527 New Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2006
    Messages:
    20
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hello
    I did not match into an IM program unfortunatly. According to the specialty match statistics released by NRMP, there were 78 slots out of 4700 that were unfilled. Is this usually how few slots are left over? I thought IM was one of the easier residencies to get, according to that it filled %98 this year! Please comment anyone
     
  2. Blue Dog

    Blue Dog Fides et ratio.
    Physician Gold Donor Verified Expert Verified Account 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2006
    Messages:
    11,990
    Likes Received:
    4,638
    Status:
    Attending Physician
    Well, it was 97.9% in 2006: http://www.nrmp.org/res_match/tables/table6_06.pdf, although I'm not sure if that's pre- or post-scramble.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  3. sluggo

    2+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2006
    Messages:
    77
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Resident [Any Field]
    This sounds like a lower total than in past years. I think that some PDs are as averse to scrambling as some applicants. If you want to open doors during scrambel look to FP as an alternative, or maybe peds...
    Good lUck!
     
  4. lhurlb

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2007
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Resident [Any Field]

    Yes, I agree. That is unusual. A lot of the FMGs most likely took a large percentage of those spots. I am sorry to hear about your misfortune. You will be okay. You will be a doctor. Either fight or search inside yourself for something that will make you happy. To be honest, I hate internal medicine. Perhaps you will be happier in the long run. Remember you made it this far, you are smart and don't let the match tell you otherwise!
     
  5. student.ie

    student.ie Senior Member
    15+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2003
    Messages:
    336
    Likes Received:
    1
    Status:
    Attending Physician
    Is that the number of categorical spots open or categorical plus prelim? I know a couple of people hoping to scramble into IM, but that sounds tough. Hopefully there are 78 categorical and way more prelim so people can find a job for a year at least and go from there.
     
  6. Shah_Patel_PT

    Physician 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2005
    Messages:
    761
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Attending Physician

    Not only were there the lowest number of unfilled spots in 7 years....but also the number of IM positions in the match were the most within the last 7 years....so yes....this year IM was much more competetive than in previous years....
     
  7. labrynth79

    labrynth79 Senior Member
    7+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2001
    Messages:
    136
    Likes Received:
    0
    I am really sorry to hear about your not matching into IM. :( That is such an unfortunate event.

    For your knowledge, attached are the listings of unfilled programs in the past (2006, 2005, 2003). I hope that they shed some light on the type of programs to expect tomorrow.

    1. If the same program shows up consecutively from year to year, it is likely that the program will have unfilled spots this year as well.
    2. If a program is present in 2006 but not in 2005, it is less likely that they will go unmatched in 2007. Many programs try to lengthen their rank lists to prevent an unmatched status.

    good luck to you!
     

    Attached Files:

  8. Adcadet

    Adcadet Long way from Gate 27
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2002
    Messages:
    2,155
    Likes Received:
    11
    Status:
    Resident [Any Field]
    Categorical. There are 136 open IM transitional slots.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  9. Shah_Patel_PT

    Physician 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2005
    Messages:
    761
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Attending Physician
    thanks for posting that info.
     
  10. idiotpathic

    idiotpathic New Member
    2+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2006
    Messages:
    60
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Resident [Any Field]
    the above act of posting the unfilled lists - a very noble gesture - is illegal. be careful good samaritan. i wish u the best..
     
  11. Adcadet

    Adcadet Long way from Gate 27
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2002
    Messages:
    2,155
    Likes Received:
    11
    Status:
    Resident [Any Field]
    Really? Is there a local ordinance prohibiting this? State law? Federal law? Don't we have some MD/JD folks around? Maybe they can clarify the difference between a contract violation, which I suspect you mean, and an illegal activity. Should we be taking advice from those who don't even bother capitalizing words and using "u" for "you"?
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  12. justasking

    justasking New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2006
    Messages:
    2
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Medical Student
    If it makes you feel any better, I had to scramble today it was miserable. Although I did get a IM spot, it was NOT nearly as easy as people told me. If I had known, I would have definitely applied more broadly and ranked more than 3 programs. :eek: I was also informed that this year was unusually competitive and that many medical schools had a larger than normal group of students scrambling. At my school, there were 16 of us and I guess we're considered a top 10 program...so go figure!! Good Luck and remember that there is always tomorrow and that EVERYTHING happens for a reason. :luck: :luck:
     
  13. Adcadet

    Adcadet Long way from Gate 27
    10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2002
    Messages:
    2,155
    Likes Received:
    11
    Status:
    Resident [Any Field]
    Justasking - thanks for posting. Did you ever hear about how many US students were applying to IM this year? Based on the fill rate I would guess it's up, but it's hard to tell with variable ROL lengths.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  14. cd95

    cd95 Junior Member

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2005
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Medical Student
    Since he only posted unfilled positions from *previous years*, information that is accessible to everybody, doesn't count as a violation.
     
  15. idiotpathic

    idiotpathic New Member
    2+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2006
    Messages:
    60
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Resident [Any Field]
    thank u for contributing positively on the topic and my english - i appreciate ur sincere input.

    until last yr scutwork.com used to post these old lists - they were removed from the site on threat of nrmp action. and forums such as usmle.net were closed down during the scramble to explicitly prevent the distribution of lists last yr.

    i never knew there were "legal" contract violations.. but im sure u will enlighten me.

    my post was for the probably uninformed person who attached the lists. as per how lightly or seriously he regards my lines is upto him..

    i personally think the whole rule is 100% bull.. but i didnt make it.. and the risk of having some leagl garbage thrown on u - however miniscule - is real.

    no good deed goes unpunished..

    gl..
     
  16. luckyDO

    luckyDO Junior Member
    5+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2005
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    0
    Thanks for posting! What happened to all the good IM spots?! I still can't find one at University setting or elsewhere. Will I be screwed if I don't find a spot now?
     
  17. ovbiekpo

    2+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Medical Student
    Hello,
    Thank you all for the posts. I am a 4th year med student at a US allopathic school. Unfortunately, I couldn't get a spot in the scramble for IM, just because my cs score has not been released (scheduled to be released next week). Does anyone have experience with the findAResident website? I am trying to utilize their service, but I can hardly find any PGY1 openings. Advice/suggestions will be appreciated.
     
  18. jdh71

    jdh71 epiphany at nine thousand six hundred feet
    Physician 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2006
    Messages:
    67,251
    Likes Received:
    44,645
    Status:
    Attending Physician
    Something that worked for me (my story's not quite the same as yours, but I graduarted last year and found myself without a PGY1 spot and the daunting task of trying to find one) . . . start looking around for a research lab at your institution interested in someone who would like to work. This way you have something to show for your year, maybe even a publication and a letter. I can almost gaurantee that the quality of programs (within reason obvioulsy) wanting to interview you after this experience will be improved from this year.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  19. ovbiekpo

    2+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Medical Student
    Thanks a lot for your response. Actually I had my lab during medical school with an NIH- funded research project. I hav be doing this work in addition to my medical school's full course load for the past 4 years. I also published peer reviewed articles/abstract and and attended national scientific meetings during this period. These all contributed to my not doing well in my CS at first attempt. I still have about 1.5 years left in the grant, salary and supplies etc, fully paid for. I read a tread today indicating that FP or transitional year will be better than doing a year of research, hence my attempt to find an IM spot via any of these services after the release of my cs scores. Any thought?
    Thanks!
     
  20. jdh71

    jdh71 epiphany at nine thousand six hundred feet
    Physician 10+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Dec 14, 2006
    Messages:
    67,251
    Likes Received:
    44,645
    Status:
    Attending Physician
    Considering your situation, I can't argue with the logic of trying to find a PGY1 position outside the match, although, this is harder than you might think this time of year. Personally, I think you have more options with a research year, especially since you'll be able to go to any interview you want. Working as an intern will limit the time you have available to interview. Good luck!

    EDIT: Number of ranked programs (ie interviews) equal match success, according to the research, especially for the "other" category, which is what you will be in next year's match.
     
    Stop hovering to collapse... Click to collapse... Hover to expand... Click to expand...
  21. ovbiekpo

    2+ Year Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2007
    Messages:
    18
    Likes Received:
    0
    Status:
    Medical Student
    Thanks a lot for the info.
     

Share This Page