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Baptist Health System-AL
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U Arkansas-Little Rock
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Rush University Med Ctr-IL
Vijaya Reddy 1147300C0 4 3 1
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Berkshire Med Ctr-MA
Rebecca Johnson 1281300C0* 1 0 1
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Henry Ford HSC-MI
Richard Zarbo 1300300C0 2 1 1
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Barnes-Jewish Hosp-MO
John Pfeifer 1353300C0* 1 0 1

St Louis Univ SOM-MO
Carole Vogler 1365300C0* 4 0 4
P: 314-577-8694
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Univ of MO-KC Programs
William De Pond 1343300C0 2 0 2

University Hosps-Columbia-MO
Alan Luger 1994300C0* 3 2 1
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Creighton Univ Affil-NE
William Hunter 1372300C0 2 1 1
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U Nebraska Affil Hosp
Leslie Bruch 1376300C0* 2 0 2
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U New Mexico SOM
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Albany Med Ctr Hosp-NY
Ann Boguniewicz 1414300C0 2 0 2
P: 518-262-5436
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SUNY Upstate Medical University
Gustavo de la Roza 1516300C0* 3 0 3
F: 315-464-4675
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U Rochester/Strong Mem-NY
Scott Kirkley 1511300C0* 7 5 2
P: 585-273-4580
F: 585-273-1027

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Pitt County Mem Hosp/Brody SOM-NC
Yvonne Posey 3057300C0* 2 0 2
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Case Western/Univ Hosps Cleveland-OH
Robert Hoffman 1552300C0* 5 4 1

West Res Care/NEOUCOM-OH
Geoffrey Mendelsohn 1585300C0* 2 0 2
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Temple Univ Hosp-PA
Henry Simpkins 1646300C0 4 2 2
P: 215-707-8995
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UPMC Medical Education Prog-PA
Gregory Naus 1652300C0 6 5 1
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Univ of Puerto Rico
Roman Velez 1116300C0 2 0 2
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East Tennessee St Univ
John Schweitzer 2066300C0 3 1 2
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Vanderbilt Univ Med-TN
Mary Zutter 1702300C0* 6 5 1
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Texas Tech U Affil-Lubbock
Dale Dunn 2973300C0* 2 1 1
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U Utah Affil Hospitals
Christopher Lehman 1732300C1* 1 0 1
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U Wisconsin Hosp/Clinics
Roby Rogers 1779300C0* 4 2 2
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The only cool place to go out of those would be University of Puerto Rico! Imagine the booty!
 

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joedogma said:
Thanks for the post. :thumbup: I am 99.9% sure I know where I am going now....
Yikes! Me too -- I ranked NM #1. I'm still trying to comprehend how they could have 3 unfilled slots.... :eek:
 

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Good one banana. :thumbup:

I'm surprised about UNM. It's such a great program, wonder what happened?
 

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Heh. Too few interviews?
EXACTLY!

I applied/interviewed exclusively in the West, and heard good things about UNM... but I never got an interview. I also never got so much as a returned phone call or email from their coordinator in response to a couple of inquiries early on.

I apparently matched so there's no sour grapes or anything (although I'd be pretty p!ssed about it if I hadn't), but it sounds like they may want to rethink how they're doing things. :rolleyes:
 

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drdvs said:
I applied/interviewed exclusively in the West, and heard good things about UNM... but I never got an interview. I also never got so much as a returned phone call or email from their coordinator in response to a couple of inquiries early on.
Hmm... I wonder if that's because the residency program coordinator is new (this is her first interview season). If it turns out I did match there, I will mention to the program director that some applicants were frustrated by how their inquiries/requests were handled.
 

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took at quite glance at the unfilled PATH program listings...
and noticed that St. Louis University really got screwed in the match and has all four of their ap/cp slots unfilled.

for those that (also) interviewed there, any reason why you ranked it so low/not high? just curious, that's all. :D
 

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Wow - UCSF filled all 13 spots. Not surprised, but that's impressive.
 

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Albuquerque/UNM is buried in a snow storm (in march)..yes, already 8 inches or so.... :eek:

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I heard about the possible unfilled programs this morning when talking to the attending here - we were both surprised that Utah of all places had a free spot - when I interviewed there it seemed very competitive because there aren't many programs in the area. But perhaps there is a story behind that...
 

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ALMD2B said:
Albuquerque/UNM is buried in a snow storm (in march)..yes, already 8 inches or so.... :eek:

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Blah! Sniff! I'm trying to ESCAPE the snow!

(Yes, I know this snowstorm is a fluke, but still.)
 

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joedogma said:
Thanks for the post. :thumbup: I am 99.9% sure I know where I am going now....
I was planning to PM you to tell you when I found out about it earlier today. I too know that I ended up either there or at the program right above it on my list. :)
 

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I agree about UNM, and Utah too . . . it does not make me feel very good to see that programs that never bothered to interview me went unfilled.
 

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Yikes! Me too -- I ranked NM #1. I'm still trying to comprehend how they could have 3 unfilled slots.... :eek:
Oh, I know exactly how they got 3 unfilled slots.

Try taking an awesome program and then totally buggering the interview day, almost beyond recognition. Before I went in i wanted to meet the PD, the chair, and Kathy Foucar. Met the PD, no prob, but then everything went to hell. Sat in the chair's office for over 40 minutes with no show. Never even made it to TriCore to meet Foucar. I walked away thinking "That could have been so great. Oh well..."

New Mexico, if you're out there, just fix up a couple of things and you'll have your pick.
 

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I was planning to PM you to tell you when I found out about it earlier today. I too know that I ended up either there or at the program right above it on my list. :)
Addendum: Assuming they ranked me, of course!
 

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I actually called to check on my status at UNM in December and was told that 'we would have loved to interview you but our budget for interviewees has already been allocated but with your letters and scores we would have been interested in you if your application had been reviewed earlier'

Through no fault of my own, our admin office screwed up and never posted my transcript and then kept saying it was posted. So there was a 2-3 week delay before my app was complete.

Congrats to those who were able to sherlock holmes their way into figuring out where they are going. ALL 5 of the places I ranked filled, so I'm still completely in the dark :mad:
 

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I put UNM #4. I had a great interview. Everyone was nice. The facilities were excellent; (Tricore labs was great). My wife did not want to get her PhD in Albuquerque.

UNM is still high on my list for Heme Path.

I think the Utah 1 0 1 and the Wash U 1 0 1 were CP only spots. They were probably looking for someone specific.
 
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I think its funny how some of these places have to scramble when a couple of them rejected me too.

I also think its BS that we can't find out where we matched and at least have a chance to scramble into a place where we would rather be but for some reason were not offered an interview.

Also some of my friends didn't match and I think its BS that foreigners get spots over them. Most of it is because their nationals have penetrated academics.

Highly qualifed US applicants are getting shafted and US taxpayer dollars are funding education of foreign doctors instead of them.

Complete BS
 

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I would probably be a little more tactful, Thrombus ;) , but I was thinking something similar.
 
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well i am tired of being a peon

i got buddies who sweated for 4 years only to take it up the you-know-what and have their dreams setback after putting up successful numbers

we have a doctor shortage in this country and we are educating foreigners paying over these fine young soon to be physicians and its complete BS

I am personally tired of all this garbage and plan on doing whatever i can throughout my career to end this nonsense
 

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Thrombus said:
I think its funny how some of these places have to scramble when a couple of them rejected me too.

I also think its BS that we can't find out where we matched and at least have a chance to scramble into a place where we would rather be but for some reason were not offered an interview.
Yeah, it's quite ironic, isn't it?
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Also some of my friends didn't match and I think its BS that foreigners get spots over them. Most of it is because their nationals have penetrated academics.

Highly qualifed US applicants are getting shafted and US taxpayer dollars are funding education of foreign doctors instead of them.

Complete BS
I understand your concern and this issue has been beaten to death in the General Residency forum. There will never be a perfect solution to this and I've seen how anger and tension mounts when this very issue is discussed. Now, over the last few years, I would stipulate that the FMGs have been getting shafted with the increasing numbers of AMG applicants. This is evident in the concept of "FMG buffer" that I have heard during discussions. Not too long ago, FMGs usually filled 1/3 of the spots in pathology because there weren't enough AMGs to fill the spots. In the recent years AMG application #'s have clearly increased. But despite this rise, people I've talked to say that this has minimal effects on actual competitiveness of pathology because of the "FMG buffer". The belief was that pathology can accomodate the increase in AMG applicants; simply, the excess AMG applicants would be OK because they would just take the spots automatically from the FMGs. I think this is correct to a big extent as FMGs with strong qualifications are having quite more difficulty getting interviews and getting some love from programs during the recent application cycles.

Nonetheless, how the FMGs have fared this year and last year I can't really make any firm statements. I don't have any conclusive evidence or numbers. Is there somewhere that we will be able to find information about the % of pathology spots offered to FMGs and AMGs during this and last year's application cycle? Then one could make firm conclusions regarding who exactly is getting shafted.
 

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Thrombus said:
I think its funny how some of these places have to scramble when a couple of them rejected me too.

I also think its BS that we can't find out where we matched and at least have a chance to scramble into a place where we would rather be but for some reason were not offered an interview.

Also some of my friends didn't match and I think its BS that foreigners get spots over them. Most of it is because their nationals have penetrated academics.

Highly qualifed US applicants are getting shafted and US taxpayer dollars are funding education of foreign doctors instead of them.

Complete BS
Well, the goal should be to train the best people possible. We are, after all, a nation of immigrants, and one that welcomes immigrants, most of whom wish to stay here and have a life here. I do see your point though that going to school in the US and being a US citizen should count for something. But it does, frankly. It's an uphill climb for most IMGs already. I wouldn't worry about "foreigners" stealing your spot, because IMGs who match into pathology are generally going to be qualified for the spot, if not more so.
 
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how have the FMG's been getting shafted????

US TAXPAYER $$$ is paying them!!!!

They should be grateful that they even have a chance to come over here and work.

Why they should get ANY spot over a US citizen when we have a SHORTAGE is beyond me
 

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I wish the U.S. would look to its northern neighbor as a role model for the match process. Up there they have different match cycles depending upon your country of original (Canadian vs FMG, with U.S. applicants given an advantage). But I am too pooped from a long day to get into a lengthy discussion! Plus I don't want to anger any FMGs we may have on this board.
 
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no one is stealing my spot, but i have friends in other fields, namely C General Surgery who got shafted

Will be interesting to see the numbers.

This has absolutely NOTHING to do wtih immigration either.

It has to do with providing our citizenry health care.

Educating foreign nationals has 3 basic problems.

1. Communication -- especially with some of the lower income folks. They can't understand a word some of these foreigners say. Since education is critical in health maintenance, this is a recipe for disaster.

2. National shortage -- We need more doc's period. Lines are long and getting longer for many procedures/specialists. American born and trained doc's have better retention #'s.

3. $$$ A family who has been paying taxes and has generations who fought/died for this country seems like they should be entitled to have clear cut advantage over foreigners. I hate to say that we are "entitled" for anything, because I am a believer in free markets and competition, but in this case where competition and competitive salaries are not really in play because of this blasted monopoly that hospitals have over residents, entitlements to positions should be ours.
 

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Thrombus said:
how have the FMG's been getting shafted????

US TAXPAYER $$$ is paying them!!!!

They should be grateful that they even have a chance to come over here and work.

Why they should get ANY spot over a US citizen when we have a SHORTAGE is beyond me
Um dude, I'm not gonna get into an argument with you here and personally I don't care to. When I say people are getting shafted, I'm talking about PEOPLE. I really can care less whether they trained in a foreign country or not. It is not my place to judge who is worthy and who is entitled.

Look, I'm just offering my perspective and what I've heard on the matter. And consistent with yaah's comment, the US population who all pay taxes from their hard earned money aren't just Americans. Non-American citizens pay taxes too. So, the whole taxpayer argument isn't a really clear cut one.
 

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Thrombus said:
how have the FMG's been getting shafted????

US TAXPAYER $$$ is paying them!!!!

They should be grateful that they even have a chance to come over here and work.

Why they should get ANY spot over a US citizen when we have a SHORTAGE is beyond me
My wife is an immigrant, and let me tell you - the idea of immigrants coming here and taking jobs is silly. They work their as*es off. This nation is successful because of people striving for excellence. No one is entitled to anything by virtue of birth or taxes. God bless Vespucciland!
 
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And also to say that this is clear cut "competition" as to who gets these spots is ludicris.

Connections bypass competition and with so many foreign nationals in academia -- a disproportionate amount -- and these folks are the ones deciding people's fates -- it can easily be seen as to how bias can hurt our own fellow classmates.
 

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Thrombus said:
And also to say that this is clear cut "competition" as to who gets these spots is ludicris.

Connections bypass competition and with so many foreign nationals in academia -- a disproportionate amount -- and these folks are the ones deciding people's fates -- it can easily be seen as to how bias can hurt our own fellow classmates.
Actually, I believe I was helped dramatically by a foreigner, who is a great pathologist. He must have missed the meeting or something. I don't want to belabor the point or continue this ad nauseum, but any process will be inherently unfair to some individuals - that's life. The only way to address your concern would be eitehr to clear foreigners from academia or to have a two-tiered match, with AMG matching first, followed by IMGs. This, of course, is patently unfair and puts merit as a secondary trait to birthplace. Overall, the current process is very fair to American grads, but you still have to be good.
 
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So you made my point for me.

First you claim that "striving for excellence" is the name of the game, then admit that a connection also helped

Personally, for me, a connection will put me in one of my top choices

For those that have no such connection, as some of my friends with excellent numbers -- far better than mine -- yet did not match, it was inherently UNFAIR.
 

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The lack of retention is due in large part to strict US immigration policies. People can get a visa to work here then they end up getting the boot after residency. I personally think that is ******ed. And, it's by no means their fault.

I would hope that you are really not sincere about your disrespect for IMGs. Those who have matched, IMGs or AMGs are your peers. Repect each other. Learn from each other. Make the best of what you are given. If you do any less, it's your loss, and your own fault.
 

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Thrombus said:
So you made my point for me.

First you claim that "striving for excellence" is the name of the game, then admit that a connection also helped

Personally, for me, a connection will put me in one of my top choices

For those that have no such connection, as some of my friends with excellent numbers -- far better than mine -- yet did not match, it was inherently UNFAIR.
I agree with the whole connection thing too. Yes, it sucks for those who do NOT have connections. But it happens. Life isn't fair. We have to deal with it.

But what if you have been excellent AND you have connections. And you're competing against a bunch of other excellent folks. The connections will help you get a position. And I think that's fine.
 

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Thrombus said:
So you made my point for me.

First you claim that "striving for excellence" is the name of the game, then admit that a connection also helped
He gave me very valuable advice about programs, was my first real role model for the kind of physician I want to be, and wrote me a letter of recommendation. I won't even know if it helped until Thursday, of course. But I am grateful, nonetheless. At any rate, I still strive to be the best I can be. That is what will determine my future more than anything else.

I think there is a big difference between influence and corruption. Using influence to help a qualified person is acceptable and, in fact, normative. Using influence to help someone unqualified is not acceptable - this is corrupt and unfair. I have no evidence that IMGs in academia use their influence to allow less qualified people into residency spots than do AMGs in academia, and I would not suppose this to be the case a priori.

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But what if you have been excellent AND you have connections. And you're competing against a bunch of other excellent folks. The connections will help you get a position. And I think that's fine.
Exactly.
 

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I think there is a big difference between influence and corruption. Using influence to help a qualified person is acceptable and, in fact, normative. Using influence to help someone unqualified is not acceptable - this is corrupt and unfair. I have no evidence that IMGs in academia use their influence to allow less qualified people into residency spots than do AMGs in academia, and I would not suppose this to be the case a priori.
Amen geddy! Can't wait 'til Thursday.
 
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agreed and my argument is that the "connections" thing be extended to the American students with solid applications
 
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apparantly those letters didnt work for some folks
 

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