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Sounds like they were waiting for him... Wonder if it was a pissed off patient/family member after a denial.
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Just saw the story, and that's immediately what my mind went to as well
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CNBC is reporting that the attacker used a suppressor on the gun and shot him in the chest. Definitely planned/targeted.
"Sic semper tyrranis."
I think pretty much all physicians thought this immediately. I'll be surprised if this isn't someone who had a denial regarding their wife/child. Frankly surprised something like this hasn't happened already as angry as insurance companies make my patients.
I’m guessing this guy had way more enemies than he could imagine.
At least the NYT kind of alludes to this: UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson Is Fatally Shot in Midtown Manhattan: Live Updates
"He had been chief executive since 2021, during a time in which the parent company and his division were rattled by federal investigations even as it enjoyed profitable growth. The division has been criticized by congressional lawmakers and federal regulators who accused it of systematically denying authorization for health care procedures and treatments."
"After Mr. Thompson joined UnitedHealth Group in 2004, he rose steadily, running such key businesses as the company’s government plans, which include its profitable Medicare Advantage operations, which are private plans. UnitedHealthcare’s management of those plans has also been scrutinized by the federal government."
Yeah I'm sure he was a real angel, would probably shed more of a tear if I wasn't almost 100% sure that the company he ran has actively killed patients with care denials. For all the officials crying about him, guess it's less "horrifying" when someone dies alone in the hospital or in their house than being shot in the street.
"He had been chief executive since 2021, during a time in which the parent company and his division were rattled by federal investigations even as it enjoyed profitable growth. The division has been criticized by congressional lawmakers and federal regulators who accused it of systematically denying authorization for health care procedures and treatments."
"After Mr. Thompson joined UnitedHealth Group in 2004, he rose steadily, running such key businesses as the company’s government plans, which include its profitable Medicare Advantage operations, which are private plans. UnitedHealthcare’s management of those plans has also been scrutinized by the federal government."
Yeah I'm sure he was a real angel, would probably shed more of a tear if I wasn't almost 100% sure that the company he ran has actively killed patients with care denials. For all the officials crying about him, guess it's less "horrifying" when someone dies alone in the hospital or in their house than being shot in the street.
The thread is classic
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Spot on graphic... and the reply about Mt Sinai almost being out of network over a contract dispute.
Looking at that, I have 2 thoughts.
1. Since Kaiser is a completely integrated network, how do they have a 7 percent denial rate? Seems high.
2. If an insurance company is denying almost 1/3 of their claims, how is it not fraud? He was selling a product with the intent to not deliver. He shouldn't be dead... he should be in prison.
Heh it is fraud but UnitedHealthcare currently donates millions a year to elected officials for a share of the company profits.
They deleted it. wonder why?
There are all those comments. Maybe the murderer has a huge bill from UNH.
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It's time to turn health care insurance companies into something akin to regulated utilities. And that comment has nothing to do with this guy getting shot. The amt of money sloshing around our health care system which isn't being used for anything but admin is astonshing. AND...it's never going to get better without legistation or politics. The private sector will never fix this EVER. It's sick. I don't want socialized medicine but we are going to get if health care costs rise 10%/year as it has done for the past few decades.
You want a society where people get SHOT because of this? Your f'ing nutz.
I hear, It was “out of network” shooting.
Reports coming out the DoJ was investigating him for insider trading. Definitely appears to be a targeted planned hit.
I went round and round in my head today because of this cognitive dissonance.
A friend who probably knows me better than me said this to me over a burger:
"Rusty; you believe that a ruling class is an unpleasant necessity in society - because society has demonstrated to you time and time again that they are incapable of self-governance, often to the most minimal extent. You're not wrong. So, it's not a long shot to also say that since you believe that a ruling class is an unpleasant necessity; that they had ALSO better be benevolent and incorrupt. What happens to a corrupt king, my friend? Nobody cries any tears for the beheaded tyrant."
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In similar fashion, I saw the joke that if it were corporate-related (say, he slept with some dude's wife or something), that it was an "in-network shooting".
Reddit is a "safe space" for those who need the hive mind to think for them.
United Health stock ended up today. For those more stock savvy, isn't that odd after the CEO was just assassinated? Perhaps it was already baked into the price...
It reminds me of an observation: you are free to do whatever you want in your life, you just have to live with the consequences.
Sure, murder is wrong and bad, but I would find it implausible that there weren't many, many people who wished this guy dead. It's probably good to seek a life path where fewer people feel that way about you.
Sure, murder is wrong and bad, but I would find it implausible that there weren't many, many people who wished this guy dead. It's probably good to seek a life path where fewer people feel that way about you.
Somebody actually said this to you in real life?
It helps to know that this man has spent entire golf and MTB trips discussing political ideology and does public speaking engagements weekly.
At more than one point when we last played golf, I said to him: "STFU and hit the ball, commissioner."
There's another medicine Facebook group (possibly the same one) where an insurance shill physician was trying to justify her job/defend the dead guy. It basically became a "share the stupidest denial you've had" string.
Look... murder is wrong.
...however if some family member of someone who died because an insurance company denied care while packing away huge profit decided... to take manners into their own hands...
...well... I can't condone it, but I understand.
I thought the insurance industry is the cartel.
Isn't denying life-saving care a form of murder?
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UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s assassin may have left message on bullets used in murder: sources
Sources said several of the pieces of evidence each contained one word, indicating the shooter may have been trying to leave a message.
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Should be easy to identify the shooter. Just go through all the patients who were denied claims.
The problem is this dead guy is not a tyrant, a murderer, nor a cartel leader. There are 100,000s of people in large companies who do his behavior. Some make more, some make less. The low-level woman employee who makes 75K in Des Moines IA who denies claims every single day can be considered just as evil, if not more. She is stroking the pen. Is it ok to kill her too?
We can't just go around killing people. Just imagine the kind of society we would have if you don't like someone, you just KILL THEM.
Us ER docs are eligible to get shot in the back. We don't give a patient norco for their chronic shoulder pain, WE are evil, we are tyrants, we are what's wrong in society. As we walk to our car after our shift, BOOM we are shot in the back.
Next I'm resucitating a dying fox in my ER bay.
Wealth disparity was a motivator here, I can almost guarantee it. It wasn’t just that he denied people coverage. It was that he got filthy rich doing so.
Wouldn't the bullet just ricochet off his lats or something?
Yeah I don't know man, when the reaction to a person's death is largely positive or indifferent because of that person being at the helm of a company for the past 3-4 years during which there has been unparalleled growth largely based off of widespread denials for lifesaving care? That lady in Des Moines has a boss, who has a boss whose boss is eventually this CEO. He's at the helm, you think he's not party to these conversations, to the way his company makes decisions? Top-down leadership, the kind he was paid tens of millions for yearly, for improving the bottom line including via denials. That lady in Des Moines ain't the problem. Government clearly doesn't give a ^*#@ and if anything get ready for removing of MORE societal guardrails. We're all upper middle class or better earning mid six figures yearly so we can afford better insurance or a bigger out of pocket hit, but with wealth inequality at basically all time highs, it was only a matter of time until something like this happened. I don't think anyone can truly condone this activity, but I 100% can understand it.
There's a big difference between us and him. If I deny a patient pain meds, sure they might lash out, can't stop it and of course try and prevent it, but I'm not profiting off of declining to give them pain meds. False equivalence IMO.
I don't think it's ok to kill these people but comparing him to other company CEOs isn't exactly apples to apples. Health insurance companies have direct ties to the health of the consumer and it becomes much more personal. The same isn't as much so for companies like Ford, Exxon Mobil, etc. I'd have different feelings if my daughter were denied a potential life-saving treatment vs. Ford not honoring a warranty on a transmission.
I never have a problem getting an extended warranty for my car.
This is sort of murder is simply emblematic of decay of aspects of our social fabric. We saw this back in the 1960s and 70s, when some powerless resorted to violence – kidnapping and ransoming of members of wealthy families, other forms of criminal activity against those in power. When legitimate avenues for effecting change seemingly disappear, the aggrieved will become desperate in proportion to the harms being played out upon them.
It is obviously an impossible challenge to obtain fair and complete coverage for appropriate medical expenses in modern society – it is, more or less, collusion between insurers in a race to the bottom to return value to shareholders. It's like air travel, except instead of change fees, excess baggage allowances, fees for seat selection, etc. – it's real human suffering.
It is obviously an impossible challenge to obtain fair and complete coverage for appropriate medical expenses in modern society – it is, more or less, collusion between insurers in a race to the bottom to return value to shareholders. It's like air travel, except instead of change fees, excess baggage allowances, fees for seat selection, etc. – it's real human suffering.
Ah, America. Using guns to avenge greedy private medical insurance practices.
Thanks for the reminder. Back day is day after tomorrow. My posterior shoulders are my worst group.
Yes. Hey Elon; are you listening? DOGE healthcare next, please.
I'm uncomfortably comfortable with condoning this act. Something's gotta give.
Yep. The false equivalence (or at least misrepresentation of the true concept of the matter) is what bothers me most when I read some of these posts here.
Extended warranties and health insurance are both products. The only difference is the denial for a claim may have a much larger effect with health insurance.
The video is out.. sad.. i dont condone violence. I dont know if he was a good guy or not. The actions of the company he led were very evil. That being said they were playing the game dictated to them by our system. I dont like how they play it, I find it absurd but jail is right.. murder is evil.
If/when this dude is caught the jury selection process would be super interesting.
How the hell do you find an impartial jury when the “victim” is a UHC CEO
Did someone say “jury nullification”?
When it happened, I told my wife it was prob a pissed policy holder family member which is a terrible precedence. You can't just kill CEOS for what a company does.
But denials keeps getting worse. I have a good friend who came to my Er with 1st episode abd pain and diagnosed with gallstones. We had everything set up for surgery and they denied it saying it was a pre-existing condition. So now she is stuck to prove she never knew she had gallstones before they approve. How is she supposed to prove a negative?
But denials keeps getting worse. I have a good friend who came to my Er with 1st episode abd pain and diagnosed with gallstones. We had everything set up for surgery and they denied it saying it was a pre-existing condition. So now she is stuck to prove she never knew she had gallstones before they approve. How is she supposed to prove a negative?
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All this yah-yah.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
You eff around with peoples lives, don't be surprised when they take yours.
This man killed people.
Someone killed him.
Simple as.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
You eff around with peoples lives, don't be surprised when they take yours.
This man killed people.
Someone killed him.
Simple as.
What wake up call would you expect?
You think last week these guys thought they were popular?
The only wake up call they will get is "man we should beef up security"
I genuinely feel like they thought they were unpopular, but it wasn't a problem because they could keep on going killing people and collecting money. Now they've been put on notice.
What if they didn't need to?
How would that be accomplished?
HmMmMmMm.....
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When the social contract breaks down we all return to the state of nature… and when there’s no power to appeal to, that means war.
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