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anyone have thoughts on this program?
 
was this the one that took my $35 and didnt give me an interview? =)
 
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3 Residents per year.
Huge surgical numbers, especially cataracts.
Busy VA
Great facility at Shiley Eye.
Some absolutely great faculty with few quirky faculty, but all mostly all well respected.
Growing research with high research area's being Retina and Glaucoma.
Fellows in every subspecialty.
 
Best of luck to everyone this season.

I was wondering if anyone who is from the area would be able to comment on the cost of living. For example, do you think that people can live there on a resident's salary, without additional income. Like getting a two bedroom apartment/condo/house, on a two person (2 married residents) salary, is this at all affordable? Just wondering if anyone who lives in the area or is from the area may have some input on this. I had looked online, but wondered if there were some first hand experiences.

Thanks!
 
3 Residents per year.
Huge surgical numbers, especially cataracts.
Busy VA
Great facility at Shiley Eye.
Some absolutely great faculty with few quirky faculty, but all mostly all well respected.
Growing research with high research area's being Retina and Glaucoma.
Fellows in every subspecialty.

I agree completely. I think that they have the #2 surgical #'s in the country. Apparently the PD is excellent, and it's one of the most beautiful places to live, with great weather. They are also adding more facilities. I felt that one of the downsides was that with 3 residents, you must be on call something like Q3, but then, that probably means calls are quieter than at busier programs.
 
I just matched at UC-San Diego/Shiley for July 2010 and couldn't be more thrilled! I wanted to post a few of my thoughts of the program for the future ophtho applicants out there.

I know that when I was applying and considering where to rank programs, I had a hard time finding anyone who knew much about UCSD, so I wanted to let other ppl know the inside scoop.

UCSD's program has 3 residents/yr, and although that may be on the "smaller" scale in terms of number of residents, the program is actually larger than it may seem. They keep the resident class to 3 per year so (IMO) they can maintain strong surgical numbers and have close faculty-resident mentorship.

Clinical/Surgical experience: Stellar. They average over 200 cataracts (I think average was 210-220), 98th percentile for plastics procedures (~100), and have a solid array of glaucoma (trabs, filters), retina lasers, strabismus, and cornea surgeries. They are in the 97th percentile for overall surgery. As far as PPV/scleral buckles, all the residents said they really didn't get to do any, as most will have to do a Vitreoretinal fellowship to get adequate experience. Again though, the senior residents who I spoke to said that if you want to do more of one specialty's surgeries, you can get the numbers. For instance, one resident said she was interested in glaucoma and was able to do over 30 trabs and filters in her pgy4 year so far. Residents rotate at Shiley, UCSD medical center (Hillcrest), and at the VA. It is the only program in San Diego proper. Call is ~ q4 first year with one weekend/month, which is pretty busy and rough according to the first-years. It gets better in yr 2 and 3.

Teaching/Curriculum: Average. It seems like UC-San Diego is a more self-driven, go-getter type of place. If you want someone to hold your hands, this isn't the place for you from what I gather. You will get out of it what you put in. Didactics are scheduled weekly and are pretty good from what the residents said. Wet lab was not there when I interviewed but is apparently being built now (all equipment is already there).

Faculty: strong. They have an awesome Glaucoma dept with the top glaucoma guy in the country, who (although some say difficult to work with) could get you into virtually any fellowship of your choice. Plastics is the same way-- they have an ASOPRS fellowship there with great faculty. Cornea is awesome as well with an ex-chairman who now runs refractive/cornea and is a very nice person to work with. Neuro-ophthalmology is strong with a big guy recently hired from Wills. Program director is in neuro-op as well. Retina is strong, and I think they are going to ramp up. They just hired a big research guy from Utah. The others in retina are well respected. Peds is strong with a well-known guy who apparently gets all the press in the San Diego area for his work. There was talk of the "malignant feeling" at UCSD, and I think that stems from two or three faculty who may be difficult to work with. This seems to be the case at a lot of other top programs as well though.

Research: there if you need it. I think Shiley was ranked in the top 10 for NIH funding in ophthalmology over the last several years. They have a research building just for glaucoma and retina, and they have a dedicated eye center for peds.

Overall: awesome place that is underrated. Atmosphere seems really chill, but solid if you want to really push the envelope for clinical/research opportunities. I interviewed at a lot of the top research programs, and I picked UCSD over places like WashU, Penn, and Hopkins because I felt like clinical training supersedes research, at least for residency. Fellowship matches are strong too; recent grads went to UCLA/Jules Stein for glaucoma, UCSD for retina/plastics (they like to take their own), and Baylor for Cornea. About 1/2 of grads go on to do comprehensive. I think Shiley is probably in the top 15 of all ophthalmology programs out there if you are a rank *****, and I would seriously consider interviewing there if you are interested in settling out on the west coast or being out there for some period of time. The reason I think they don't get as much recognition as the other big name programs on the west coast like JSEI, Doheny, or UCSF is because of the weak PR.. they need to get their name out more. San Diego, by the way, is a HUGE perk of being at UCSD. Can't beat the weather, climate, and things to do.

Please feel free to PM me if you have any further questions. I would be happy to answer questions from applicants or others interested in the program.
 
Best of luck to everyone this season.

I was wondering if anyone who is from the area would be able to comment on the cost of living. For example, do you think that people can live there on a resident's salary, without additional income. Like getting a two bedroom apartment/condo/house, on a two person (2 married residents) salary, is this at all affordable? Just wondering if anyone who lives in the area or is from the area may have some input on this. I had looked online, but wondered if there were some first hand experiences.

Thanks!
I'm sorry I can't comment on living on a resident's salary (as I don't know what it is), but I'm a medical student living in the area. With a 2-bedroom apartment, you can expect to pay around $650-800 each (more or less if you tried really hard). This only applies to the area closest to the campus; other popular options include the Pacific Beach area and Hillcrest.
 
I'm sorry I can't comment on living on a resident's salary (as I don't know what it is), but I'm a medical student living in the area. With a 2-bedroom apartment, you can expect to pay around $650-800 each (more or less if you tried really hard). This only applies to the area closest to the campus; other popular options include the Pacific Beach area and Hillcrest.

His/her post was from over a year ago. Just sayin' 😛
 
I rent a 2 bed/bath condo for $1650 per month in one of the nicer condo communities in University Town Center (UTC). You can always look a little further for cheaper, but SD should be affordable for a 2 person resident salary depending on what kind of loans you have to pay and if you have any kids to support. Of course if you're coming from the mid-west (or other similar area) get ready for a little sticker shock, but SD isn't nearly as bad as LA or SF.
 
Just wanted to share some updated info on the UC San Diego/Shiley program. I am a current resident here, and plans are underway to expand to 4 residents per year starting in 2012. They are currently working on ACGME approval for this.

Also, we have a new chairman (glaucoma bigwig) who started in July 2011 who is doing some great things to the program and taking it to a new level. Look forward to meeting the applicants this coming December!
 
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this place is SOLID folks..incredible faculty..
 
I was sorry to see Stuart Brown MD leave Pittsburgh as Chairman of the Ophthalmology Dept 2/3 of the way through my residency in 1983. I liked him alot.
 
I was sorry to see Stuart Brown MD leave Pittsburgh as Chairman of the Ophthalmology Dept 2/3 of the way through my residency in 1983. I liked him alot.
Stuart Brown has done so much for Shiley in the decades he's been chairman. But we desperately needed new leadership and a chairman with long-term vision and foresight for positive change. Dr. Weinreb is certainly filling those shoes, and I think he is very motivated to build an even more stellar residency program here as well.
 
Dr. Brown is probably in his late 70s i would guess..I agree,.time for new blood. Dr. Weinreb is an impressive guy and will take your program to new heights,for sure..
 
Any thoughts on how this program compares to UCLA, USC, and UCSF?
 
I recently interviewed at Shiley and was more impressed than I expected. This is a great program, no doubt. I'm hoping someone can speak to why I continue to hear about a 'malignant' atmosphere at Shiley Eye. I tried hard to ask residents on interview day how attendings were and if interactions were positive. Everyone kept saying they are great and there aren't any problems, yet I continue to read or hear that there are some attendings here that are really hard to work with and put a damper on the program, etc. Can anyone that has rotated or trained here address this? Is this a thing of the past? The location is incredible no doubt and the surgical experience top notch, just curious about the faculty. Thanks in advance.
 
Apologies for bumping this so soon but rank list submission is coming fast and I'm still real curious about UCSD. Anyone out there able to speak to above post?
 
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