University of Incarnate Word

[lnguyen1412]

this new osteopathic school will be available on AACOMAS on June 1st. What are your thoughts about this school?

So far I know it is private school, I'm not sure if it are eligible for financial aid? Any information on this? And the school are located in texas, so I think texans will be favorable?

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[Cardboard101]

Incarnate Word*

 

[lnguyen1412]

Oops.... Well don't mind that typo haha,

 

[Alienman52]

Im interested to know if Texans will have a better shot at the school as well.....How do you know its available on june 1st OP?

 

[lnguyen1412]

Im interested to know if Texans will have a better shot at the school as well.....How do you know its available on june 1st OP?

Their website said so I believe

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

I think it's July 1st. Maybe June though, I haven't looked at the website recently. Because it is private there won't be the same preference for Texans as the other Texas schools. The tuition will be about that of other DO schools

 

[Dreamislandcaptive]

website says June first

 

[lnguyen1412]

Anyone has info about what kind of stats they are looking for? They said they serious consider "primary care"

 

[Cardboard101]

Probably normal DO stats for a new school. 3.3/28 ish. Can't do grade replacement for Texas though.
I wonder what this part of their core curriculum entails.

The six threads weaving throughout the curriculum are as follows:

• Mental Health and Wellness
• Spirituality
• Social Accountability, Service and Scholarship
• Student Success, Mentoring and Advising
• Board Preparation
• Evidence-based Medicine

 

[lnguyen1412]

Probably normal DO stats for a new school. 3.3/28 ish. Can't do grade replacement for Texas though.
I wonder what this part of their core curriculum entails.

The six threads weaving throughout the curriculum are as follows:

• Mental Health and Wellness
• Spirituality
• Social Accountability, Service and Scholarship
• Student Success, Mentoring and Advising
• Board Preparation
• Evidence-based Medicine

What kind of spirituality they are looking for? Christian, catholic, or 7day???

They are private school so they are not participate in TMDSAS though. So i think grade replacement still possible through AACOMAS.

 

[Henry101]

The location of this school is amazing. The School also promised to open 200+ new residency positions in 3 years which is a crazy ambitious goal. We will see if it materializes into anything.
I'm actually a little jealous of the great location. They will be building the new building on Kennedy Circle which is the last place John F. Kennedy gave a speech before his assassination. It's like an hour away from their main campus in North San Antonio though. I also don't know where they are planning on sending their students for rotations because UT SA dominates most of the hospitals in the city. Baptist Health has a few hospitals but I don't think they have any trauma centers. Interesting to see where they build their GME programs. I'd do anything to get back to Texas. I really hope these GME programs materialize before I graduate from my school haha

 

[FCMike11]

Wow! Didn't know about this. As a Texan (and nontrad with meh stats), who has a lot of family close to San Antonio, so stoked.

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[GypsyHummus]

For spirituality, would the religion "Jedi" count?

 

[MADD!!!]

For spirituality, would the religion "Jedi" count?

As long as you view the Jedi "holistically", taking into account the spiritual, mental, and physical well-being of the Jedi persona.

 

[lnguyen1412]

make sure to take into account the power of the "force" as well

 

[healingwave]

I am really hoping to get into this school. I have a 3.5 cGPA, 3.3 sGPA, and a 500 MCAT. Planning on retaking mcat on August 4th. I took an animal humanities course that taught me how to meditate and feel empathy for animals, maybe that can tie into the spirituality portion?

 

[lnguyen1412]

I am really hoping to get into this school. I have a 3.5 cGPA, 3.3 sGPA, and a 500 MCAT. Planning on retaking mcat on August 4th. I took an animal humanities course that taught me how to meditate and feel empathy for animals, maybe that can tie into the spirituality portion?

I believe the spirituality portion is part of the curriculum. I don't see anywhere in the admission requirement that indicate you must be spirituality prepared to be admitted. Just my 2 cents.

I have similar GPA like you haha. 3.54 cGPA, 3.36 sGPA with 502 MCAT (128/123/128/123).

 

[healingwave]

I believe the spirituality portion is part of the curriculum. I don't see anywhere in the admission requirement that indicate you must be spirituality prepared to be admitted. Just my 2 cents.

I have similar GPA like you haha. 3.54 cGPA, 3.36 sGPA with 502 MCAT.

Hoping that will give me some sort of advantage because they emphasize on patient care, etc. And are you going to retake your mcat?

 

[lnguyen1412]

Hoping that will give me some sort of advantage because they emphasize on patient care, etc. And are you going to retake your mcat?

Probably not. I contact some of the school admission counselor and they said that my MCAT is kinda strong for their school. I'm not applying MD schools, so I don't want to retake this MCAT with a possibility that it might decrease (due to hassle of application process), so I'm just gonna throw myself out there this cycle and see what happen. After all, 502 is only 1 percentile away from the old 27. Hopefully, I got in somewhere 😀

Good luck to you too

 

[crazyboi1993]

I wish this school opened up last year, I love Texas and would've went to this school just for the location. San Antonio is an amazing city, and its so close to Austin, which is yet another amazing city !

 

[MADD!!!]

Loll I think you guys are taking the whole spirituality thing a bit far, no? It's just meant to be one of many aspects in looking at a patient holistically. You guys make it sound like you're trying to be psychics

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

psychics

Yeah man it's just simple physisics 101.


If anyone can tell me that reference I will be very impressed!

 

[pizza1994]

does anyone know if this school accepts Canadians?

 

[OrdinaryDO]

Probably normal DO stats for a new school. 3.3/28 ish. Can't do grade replacement for Texas though.
I wonder what this part of their core curriculum entails.

The six threads weaving throughout the curriculum are as follows:

• Mental Health and Wellness
• Spirituality
• Social Accountability, Service and Scholarship
• Student Success, Mentoring and Advising
• Board Preparation
• Evidence-based Medicine

The grade replacement is through AACOMAS which is present for all 50 states, D.O. schools don't use the TMDSAS. There are quite a few schools that look for spirituality, it is part of the osteopathic approach "Mind, body, and spirit," so this kind of makes sense. Also, new private schools are never going to be eligible for financial aide unless they are a direct extension from an already federally recognized university.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

The grade replacement is through AACOMAS which is present for all 50 states, D.O. schools don't use the TMDSAS. There are quite a few schools that look for spirituality, it is part of the osteopathic approach "Mind, body, and spirit," so this kind of makes sense. Also, new private schools are never going to be eligible for financial aide unless they are a direct extension from an already federally recognized university.

TCOM uses TMDSAS. This will be the first school from Texas that will use AACOMAS. TCOM also does not do grade replacement for that fact.

I actually think they will have federal loans because UIW is already a federally recognized university

 

[Neurodoct]

How receptive to do you think they are to OOS students?

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Because they are private I think they won't have any true in state bias. I think I read that on their website actually.

 

[AsianPersuasion]

Hmmm that catholic spirituality statement scares me a bit in terms of how they'll view my app. I have LGBTQ written all over my app and I'm starting to think I might not get any love for that. San Antonio sounds awesome though!

 

[lnguyen1412]

Hmmm that catholic spirituality statement scares me a bit in terms of how they'll view my app. I have LGBTQ written all over my app and I'm starting to think I might not get any love for that. San Antonio sounds awesome though!

I believe the spirituality part is integrated into the curriculum. I don't see them list it as a selection factor in the college information book from AACOMAS

 

[Dochopeful13]

Because they are private I think they won't have any true in state bias. I think I read that on their website actually.

Does anyone know if all pre reqs need to be completed before applying to this school? The website makes it seem like that's the case.

 

[Ioannes Paulus]

Actually, Baylor also doesn't use TMDAS

 

[DO2015CA]

Probably normal DO stats for a new school. 3.3/28 ish. Can't do grade replacement for Texas though.
I wonder what this part of their core curriculum entails.

The six threads weaving throughout the curriculum are as follows:

• Mental Health and Wellness
• Spirituality
• Social Accountability, Service and Scholarship
• Student Success, Mentoring and Advising
• Board Preparation
• Evidence-based Medicine

Lol at saying a brand new school is a 3.3/28. That's established DO school.

Should be competitive with 3.3/502, but I see plenty of people getting in with a 500.

 

[Ioannes Paulus]

Lol at saying a brand new school is a 3.3/28. That's established DO school.

Should be competitive with 3.3/502, but I see plenty of people getting in with a 500.

Depends on location. UIW and RVU-SU will probably be mildly competitive in the first few cycle despite being new schools only because of their desirable location.

 

[DO2015CA]

Depends on location. UIW and RVU-SU will probably be mildly competitive in the first few cycle despite being new schools only because of their desirable location.

The only state that would happen would be California.

 

[edgerock24]

Probably normal DO stats for a new school. 3.3/28 ish. Can't do grade replacement for Texas though.
I wonder what this part of their core curriculum entails.

The six threads weaving throughout the curriculum are as follows:

• Mental Health and Wellness
• Spirituality
• Social Accountability, Service and Scholarship
• Student Success, Mentoring and Advising
• Board Preparation
• Evidence-based Medicine

Those stats are not normal for a new school. "Normal" would be 3.4 - 3.5 / ~26 (500-501) MCAT.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Depends on location. UIW and RVU-SU will probably be mildly competitive in the first few cycle despite being new schools only because of their desirable location.

RVU-UT will only be competative because they will most likely get a freak ton of UU rejects that still want to stay in the state. San Antonio is great but I don't think that it is what one would consider a "desirable location". At least not enough to make it more competative than a normal new DO school IMO.

 

[ritts]

Just added UIW to the list

 

[CookiesNMilk]

Hmmm that catholic spirituality statement scares me a bit in terms of how they'll view my app. I have LGBTQ written all over my app and I'm starting to think I might not get any love for that. San Antonio sounds awesome though!

I understand your concern and hesitance for applying, but you should apply anyway. There are many LGBTQ within the Catholic community that are accepted and loved. Despite what media might portray, Catholics are generally more accepting when it comes to LGBTQ persons and issues. Afterall, Catholicism does mean "universal."

 

[Plastic156600sub3]

Anybody get anywhere with this school, yet? I'm anxious to see if I get a response soon.

My schools drug their feet when it came to submitting transcripts, so I get to wait a little. 🙂

 

[OrdinaryDO]

I think it's July 1st. Maybe June though, I haven't looked at the website recently. Because it is private there won't be the same preference for Texans as the other Texas schools. The tuition will be about that of other DO schools

I'm not writing this just to simply disagree with what you have written, but keep in mind just because a school is private doesn't mean their bias is nom-existent. For example, BCOM has publicly stated that their goal is to eventually be accepting 98% or their students from the state of New Mexico. That is just one example.

Probably normal DO stats for a new school. 3.3/28 ish. Can't do grade replacement for Texas though.

The realistic average for a brand new DO school might look more like a 3.3/24 or 3.3/498. I can only think of 1 or 2 DO schools who are averaging above a 28 MCAT score today.

The location of this school is amazing. The School also promised to open 200+ new residency positions in 3 years which is a crazy ambitious goal. We will see if it materializes into anything.
I'm actually a little jealous of the great location. They will be building the new building on Kennedy Circle which is the last place John F. Kennedy gave a speech before his assassination. It's like an hour away from their main campus in North San Antonio though. I also don't know where they are planning on sending their students for rotations because UT SA dominates most of the hospitals in the city. Baptist Health has a few hospitals but I don't think they have any trauma centers. Interesting to see where they build their GME programs. I'd do anything to get back to Texas. I really hope these GME programs materialize before I graduate from my school haha

Don't forget that by 2020 at the latest, every single residency spot will be ACGME accredited, therefore you should be excited about that. Lol. Be careful about the "200 residency spots." In general, this number represents the number of residency spots at a single time. So you can have students from the class of 2020 rotating in those spots while the class of 2023 is rotating as well through those same 200..

Hmmm that catholic spirituality statement scares me a bit in terms of how they'll view my app. I have LGBTQ written all over my app and I'm starting to think I might not get any love for that. San Antonio sounds awesome though!

Don't take this as offensive, but generally medical schools lean more on the conservative side, so if I were you I would keep any sexuality or religious beliefs out of your general application unless asked specifically about it through another form of question and answer style format. Just my .02, but you can do what you please in the end.

Best of luck to everyone here. I've heard good rumors about this school!

 

[AsianPersuasion]

I'm not writing this just to simply disagree with what you have written, but keep in mind just because a school is private doesn't mean their bias is nom-existent. For example, BCOM has publicly stated that their goal is to eventually be accepting 98% or their students from the state of New Mexico. That is just one example.

The realistic average for a brand new DO school might look more like a 3.3/24 or 3.3/498. I can only think of 1 or 2 DO schools who are averaging above a 28 MCAT score today.


Don't forget that by 2020 at the latest, every single residency spot will be ACGME accredited, therefore you should be excited about that. Lol. Be careful about the "200 residency spots." In general, this number represents the number of residency spots at a single time. So you can have students from the class of 2020 rotating in those spots while the class of 2023 is rotating as well through those same 200..


Don't take this as offensive, but generally medical schools lean more on the conservative side, so if I were you I would keep any sexuality or religious beliefs out of your general application unless asked specifically about it through another form of question and answer style format. Just my .02, but you can do what you please in the end.

Best of luck to everyone here. I've heard good rumors about this school!

I honestly completely agree you. But also at the same time, I don't love medicine enough to change who I am or hide to be a doctor. I'm sure there are schools out there who are willing to welcome me with open arms and open heart. And if I can't find it through this process, I believe that maybe it's just isn't meant to be. I have significant experience both medically and community wise in LGBTQ and research involving it. It would leave me with nothing to show if I take them out. I love medicine and would be honored to practice it but I'm a packaged deal

 

[OrdinaryDO]

I honestly completely agree you. But also at the same time, I don't love medicine enough to change who I am or hide to be a doctor. I'm sure there are schools out there who are willing to welcome me with open arms and open heart. And if I can't find it through this process, I believe that maybe it's just isn't meant to be. I have significant experience both medically and community wise in LGBTQ and research involving it. It would leave me with nothing to show if I take them out. I love medicine and would be honored to practice it but I'm a packaged deal

Well, what I meant was to not be so expressive during applying. Heck, schools may embrace the idea due to diversification and school clubs being formed, but I'm always the "better safe than sorry" type of person.

 

[Plastic156600sub3]

Well, what I meant was to not be so expressive during applying. Heck, schools may embrace the idea due to diversification and school clubs being formed, but I'm always the "better safe than sorry" type of person.

I'd honestly hesitate to even talk about being catholic during the application process, even though I am catholic. Just because it's a catholic affiliated school, doesn't mean the person looking at your application is necessarily catholic. The person him/herself could be anyone.

 

[Alienman52]

I'd honestly hesitate to even talk about being catholic during the application process, even though I am catholic. Just because it's a catholic affiliated school, doesn't mean the person looking at your application is necessarily catholic. The person him/herself could be anyone.

Lol right but the person assessing your app's job is to align applicants with the school's mission, not their own agenda.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

Lol right but the person assessing your app's job is to align applicants with the school's mission, not their own agenda.

It doesn't matter, though, humans form opinions even if it is of the slightest amount. When it comes to choosing applicants, the feel a person gets from your application can make or break your chances of being offered an interview or a spot on their roster. Now, this is getting a little far past what I was initially talking about, but it is still true.

 

[Alienman52]

It doesn't matter, though, humans form opinions even if it is of the slightest amount. When it comes to choosing applicants, the feel a person gets from your application can make or break your chances of being offered an interview or a spot on their roster. Now, this is getting a little far past what I was initially talking about, but it is still true.

I agree with you that humans will form opinions no matter what the situation, but the schools mission is Catholic based, and to say,if one is Catholic, to not mention any trace of Catholicism, is absolutely ridiculous.
Yes people will form opinions, but:
1) like I mentioned before, their job is to align applicants with the schools mission, not their own.
2) the school will likely employ those who they believe agree with, and will advance the schools mission. There is a very low likelihood that someone who is against Catholicism whole heartedly will be on an admissions committee at a catholic school
3) potential members of adcoms who believe in the schools mission are more likely to apply to get a job here

To say that one will ignore the fact that one is Catholic, when the schools mission that is faith (Catholic) based, is just downright silly. It's like saying this:

School A's mission is to serve community X.
There are members of community Y that oppose certain standards set by those members of community X.
I will not mention any trace of my association with community X on my application to school A because of the slight possibility that a member of community Y is on School A's adcoms.
(Which is, a very small possibility considering the school is filled with people from community X)


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[Plastic156600sub3]

I agree with you that humans will form opinions no matter what the situation, but the schools mission is Catholic based, and to say,if one is Catholic, to not mention any trace of Catholicism, is absolutely ridiculous.
Yes people will form opinions, but:
1) like I mentioned before, their job is to align applicants with the schools mission, not their own.
2) the school will likely employ those who they believe agree with, and will advance the schools mission. There is a very low likelihood that someone who is against Catholicism whole heartedly will be on an admissions committee at a catholic school
3) potential members of adcoms who believe in the schools mission are more likely to apply to get a job here

I agree with you to a point. The one thing that I will say is that because it is a new school, there is a high probability that the mission is still catholic. That is more than I could say for other "catholic" schools, however. Some of the older catholic colleges have become almost anti-catholic in their position. Georgetown, St. Louis, Creighton, Marian, and Loyola are all older catholic colleges that I would dare not tell I was catholic. They are only catholic in name. Nothing else about their mission is remotely catholic.

 

[Alienman52]

I agree with you to a point. The one thing that I will say is that because it is a new school, there is a high probability that the mission is still catholic. That is more than I could say for other "catholic" schools, however. Some of the older catholic colleges have become almost anti-catholic in their position. Georgetown, St. Louis, Creighton, Marian, and Loyola are all older catholic colleges that I would dare not tell I was catholic. They are only catholic in name. Nothing else about their mission is remotely catholic.

Haha are we applying this cycle, or a cycle 10 years from this one? I don't know about you, but I'm applying now, and as of now, it's a Catholic based mission.


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[Plastic156600sub3]

Haha are we applying this cycle, or a cycle 10 years from this one? I don't know about you, but I'm applying now, and as of now, it's a Catholic based mission.

I'll leave the catholic part to the interview or MAYBE the second essay. I've probably got more at stake than you do, being a non trad and changing careers. I know when I'm applying. I also know that sometimes I'd rather err on the side of caution. Schools also want to admit quality candidates as well and not so much bootlickers. If I can show myself as a catholic and a student they want to admit, I'd count that as better than just catholic.

 

[OrdinaryDO]

Lol well I was just speaking broadly more so than on specifics. I agree with you, though. I would rather not leave anything to chance, though, you know what I mean?