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As a current student, I have to offer a few words to go with your comments. I will share a bit on the student experience.I find it surprising that you commented on this thread just to discredit my words. You and I both don't have anything to gain by spreading lies about the school. I also stated last year that I had gotten accepted to UOP and other schools in a previous cycle. If I remember correctly, you also got into UOP but chose to go elsewhere for cost savings. The choice you made was good for all the reasons I had stated earlier. I also decided to go elsewhere due to all of the negative things I had heard from graduates and current students of the school. I have many friends who attended the school in recent years. They all told me to choose the other option that I was leaning towards despite the fact that I am from California. So, I made the tough decision to leave the state for dental school and I don't regret it. I am only trying to help and provide some insight because I do not believe UOP is upfront and good-natured with how they structure the program and how grading is done at the school. A very notable percentage of UOP's first year class ends up remediating either one or both hand skills courses due to the very strenuous and toxic nature of how they conduct things. If you end up in this situation, you will have a feeling of being "on the edge" or "borderline" for the reminder of the program. That inherently makes the environment at UOP more stressful and miserable in the first year onward because you are that much more pressed to complete all the requirements in a condensed time span. Most other schools do what UOP does in the first year sim lab over the span of two years. That's a huge difference. I also heard professors can be very strict with grading in the sim lab as what may get a passing grade at other schools would get a failing grade at UOP. The learning process in sim lab is tough and frustrating but at UOP those negative aspects are easily worse due both the condensed program and more punitive grading scheme and overall grade deflation compared to many other schools. On top of that, Roseman made their announcement recently and I feel that students who are particularly interested in the 3 year program should choose Roseman due to potential six-figure cost savings and a seemingly much more pleasant dental school experience based on word of mouth. These are all important aspects that should be considered for current and future applicants when it is time to make the choice. I am only here for transparency. Feel free to private message me if any of you want more info based on my unique, informed perspective on UOP.
There are a few students repeating as D1. I can count 4, and there may be more. Nonetheless, 4 out of 144 is a bit less than 3%. To be fair, it is "notable." However, all preclinical courses had significantly less simclin practice time last year because of the pandemic, which has to be considered. I'm not sure how many of those admitted with the current D3s repeated, but I doubt it was more. And for those that repeated, I don't think they are "on the edge" or "borderline." The ones I know are all doing good in the simclin. If anything, taking the class for a second time only makes things so much more manageable. Apart from the financial hit, I don't think it is that bad.
The preclinical courses at UOP are very intense. They crank up very quickly, which means one has to get good fast. It is stressful initially, no doubt, but students are not in it without help. Suppose anybody is struggling to at least get a 4 on practicals (4 = barely failing, one unacceptable criterion brings the score to a max of 4). In that case, their row instructor will place them into Saturday remediations, which is a few hours of mandatory Saturday practice with more instructors and tutors available. Some go to these sessions voluntarily, too. From what I've heard, they are very helpful. Most of those I know struggled at the beginning of the year are doing okay by the end. It can be frustrating at times, sometimes it is really hard to get a prep homework checked off, sometimes the practical grading can be unpredictable, sometimes your faculty eval is not as good as you wish. I was pretty frustrated first quarter because of not passing direct practicals. However, it can also be rewarding, like when you get preps checked off in one go, get 7+'s on practicals (or even an all excellent 9 :O), or your instructors leave you nice remarks in your evaluation. These are all parts of the journey which I believe should happen during everyone's dental school experience. They just happen all at once within less than a year at UOP.
In terms of grading, UOP grading is harsh. I don't know what to comment on that. It's just what it is. UOP asks for a high standard, and I signed up for it. For sure, my stress would be more manageable with an easier grading, but I would have also studied or practiced less. Good thing or bad thing, that's up to you. But it's definitely not harsh to the point that it is difficult to pass.
I think it is only fair that I also offer a few reasons for people not to come here. The first one is the cost, that's pretty obvious. The second is whether you would like to specialize. The school says most who want to specialize get their first choices, but it sure is hard to get a good class ranking and 3.8+ GPA while preparing to apply for residencies in a shorter time. The third would be the pace of the school and the stress. It is not easy to be held at higher clinical standards while having less time to achieve them.
Good luck to those who got the interview invitation, and congrats to those who got in.