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nevermind, found it is my deleted items folder... thought it was junk mail
USCTex said:I'm not going to either of these great schools. I also am aware that you can do rotations through lots of places at Baylor and I believe St. Luke's has a mission statement for helping the indigent.
However, I really really believe there is something to be said for the amount and the chaos and the variety of cases you will see by working through a huge public hospital like Parkland. I know all you smart kids have heard that argument before but...
To anyone who has to decide (Baylor of UTSW)...you really can't go wrong.
USCTex said:I believe St. Luke's has a mission statement for helping the indigent.
dcham said:does anyone know where to find southwestern's match list from last year?
MadameLULU said:I thought they put that in our packet when we interviewed.
Alexander Pink said:Yeah, the match list was in the packet.
Alexander Pink said:Hey JDAD, why did you put class of 09/10 on your signature? Thinking of applying to a one year program or deferring or what?
JDAD said:I'm thinking about taking a year to do research after my second year. I guess I will find out more about my options at MS0 weekend. You mentioned something about the research opprotunites on the swmed website, can you hook me up with a link?
Thanks pink.
Alexander Pink said:They offer the degree with distinction in research:
http://www8.utsouthwestern.edu/utsw/cda/dept25793/files/133828.html
You don't need to take a whole year to do research man, you can do the 10 week research program during the summer between 1st and 2nd year. If you want to qualify for distinction in research, they require 16 weeks, so you can just do 6 weeks in the school year or do the same 10 week program this summer before matriculation. Of course, they also offer NIH and other research grants to do research (couldn't find the link). Overall, I am not sure how advantageous it would be to do that much research, unless u are sure that academic medicine is for you. Luck
JDAD said:Thanks for the link. I have seen that page before, I think they talked about it in our interview packet.
I like research, but I am not sure how involved I will be, that's why I put c/o 2009/10. I am pretty sure I will be there this summer doing research, but only if I can find a project I want to be a part of. I want to get involved in clinical research, rather then bench work. I will be going down to San Diego in April to present at the American Society of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology and I am hoping that will give me a greater understanding of the whole research thing.
I am looking into the Dorris Duke fellowship, and that requires a full year off school. Who knows.
I signed up for the "Research" talk at UTSW for MS0 day, and hopefully I will learn more then.
Anyway, have you heard anything from Baylor?
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Bright Star said:I didn't know that all you needed was 16 weeks of research to have a distinction in research. I would not mind doing research for 16 weeks because I enjoy it but I doubt I'll do it this first summer just cause I want to take some time to relax but if i could do it btwn my 1st and 2nd year and 6 weeks in the school year that would be great.
Bright Star said:I didn't know that all you needed was 16 weeks of research to have a distinction in research. I would not mind doing research for 16 weeks because I enjoy it but I doubt I'll do it this first summer just cause I want to take some time to relax but if i could do it btwn my 1st and 2nd year and 6 weeks in the school year that would be great.
Sparky Man said:It can be a little hard to get something done researchwise in 16 weeks. If you are going to write a thesis, I bet it's better to take a year. You are right, though, that's a big time committment...
Zondeare said:No experience is needed at all. Usually the mentors have the mindset of trying to teach you new things. They don't pay you(the school itself does)- in fact they have little invested in you except they might get some free labor. Most mentors just want to help you grow as a scientist and physician. What you do is usually up to you in terms of how deep into projects you want to get.
Research is a great experience to allow you to get a broader perspective on something that interests you. Pick several labs initially due to what projects sound interesting to you. From there, email the mentors in charge. Usually they'll want to set up a meeting to talk to you about their research. There, you can ask questions to your hearts content and really get a feel for the type of mentor the person is and the type of environment you'd be working in. That gives you a great jumping off point to tell what lab will suit you best. Just make sure you get into a lab that you'll really enjoy- otherwise your summer will be really tiresome and that's a terrible way to start med school.
You (or someone) said that it is possible to get the requisite 16 weeks by doing the 10-week program during summer 1->2 and then a 6 week research rotation or something or other. My question is how/when do you fit in the additional 6 weeks of research required for a distinction in research, and also, how much free time is available to work on your thesis (probably a dumb question:free time, what's that?). Thanks for the help.
Zondeare said:You can do research rotations in the 3rd and 4th years to make up the other 6 weeks. It's actually fairly common. People really love it in general because it's a lot lower stress than working in the hospital, but it's still work- it looks better than taking the rotation off.
As for free time, it does exist. I know we all say we are stressed beyond belief. But, you can do anything you want (within reason). It depends on how important it is to you. I have a fellow first year who actually kept his part time job teaching at Kaplan for the MCAT - he works about 15 hrs a week. NOT that I actually RECOMMEND that. You just have to work a lot more than you are used to working. I'm not at the top of my class because I choose NOT to study like the people at the top study. It's a conscious choice as to what's more important and what you are willing to sacrifice. You just have to be better structured.
As for writing a thesis in your 3rd/4th year, I think most people (as in most of the whole 10-15 people who get the MD with distinction in research) take a rotation off to do that. Again, it's relatively low stress and it isn't like you are just doing nothing like a lot of people- so it still looks pretty good on a CV.
Most people opt not to get the higher distinction. It depends on what residency you want to go into and on what is important to you. I have every intention on finishing my 16 weeks of research, but I still don't think I'll write the thesis. I am not interested in a really competitive residency.
I think that you have a long time to figure things out. It's doable. Don't worry about it too much now.
MadameLULU said:Yes, I agree--our thread is almost dead...
www.inwoodonthepark.com
I think this is where a lot of med students live...the floor plans seem pretty nice
If all goes well, I'm thinking of purchasing a condo somewhere though..I HATE paying rent
Anyhow look forward to meeting you on Monday!
JDAD said:LuLu, I got an email from my interviewer today also. These little things that UTSW is doing to attract people are pretty impressive.
mwhou said:Thanks for the appartment info LuLu - looks like a nice place, and good prices - at least compared to current houston $$$.
UTSW really does seem to go that extra mile to attract people. I ran across this post earlier, and what they do for the MD/PHD interviewees is amazing. Read the 3rd (last) interview review: link The guy describes the all expense paid, 4 day, 2nd look experience. The student was seated with ross Perot and a nobel laureate at dinner! To me, this just confirms that thier attitude is not simply the result of one or two good people, but instead a positive institutional culture. Very impressive. Others have confirmed that this attitude remains once you become a student. The amount of alumni & community support also seems to confirm this.
Alexander Pink said:I am 50/50 Baylor, UTSW! What a decision that will be to make!
MadameLULU said:You have to get into baylor first, silly
MadameLULU said:So who besides mwhou and I are attending the dinner tomorrow?
runner1979 said:Wish I could be there, but I'm off to NYC for a while....See you guys at MSZero Day!
Quick Question: When the MSZero stuff says casual are we talking jeans casual or business casual?
Ya'll have a good one!
JDAD said:Can some of the veteran give us newbies a quick rundown on housing options?
Gracianks
JDAD said:Can some of the veteran give us newbies a quick rundown on housing options?
Gracianks
JDAD said:Thanks for the quick replies. I am interested at Innwood, but the prices on thieir webiste were a little steep. If what you say is true regarding the discounts to medicals students, that is probably be where I will live next yeay unless I can find a cool garage-appartment in the Highland/University Park area. That would be ideal, quite and peaceful.
Is Innwood very loud? I am looking for an apartment without all the distractions.
My girlfriend lives at the Village right now, although her commute to SMU Law school is much shorter than mine would be. It's a pretty sweet deal, (She only pays 405 a month for a studio) but I don't think I want to drive that far. Mockingbird traffic SUCKS!
Thanks again for the info, and anything else specific about your Innwood experience would be great.
Zondeare said:I do want to give you one word of warning about Inwood. There's a lot of construction across the street. It's not fun to wake up at 7 every morning (thankfully not Sundays, but yes, even Saturdays). I HIGHLY suggest asking for an apt on the West side of the complex so you don't have as much of the noise.
As for roommates, I have a roommate, we went to the same college but didn't really know each other until we hooked up on the roommate bulletin board. I think it's a great way to meet people that you may want to live with. Most people who live by themselves love it, but it's really expensive to live by yourself in the Medical District. Most apt complexes have long wait lists for one bedrooms and the rents on them are usually outrageous. I have to admit though, the life of living by yourself is so attractive that I'm debating on whether I want to live by myself next year.
Things to consider in deciding to get a roommate:
1. Having someone else in med school who is studying a lot as well helps keep you motivated and reminds you that you aren't alone. It is so much easier to study with other people who are studying instead of talking to college friends who still go out every night of the week.
2. all first years take the same classes together, so you'll be stressed out at the same time - big way to get in big fights, but at least you know he/she'll be quiet when you need to study.
3. You'll have to respect each other's need for quiet to study in. If you're dont studying for the night, but your roommate isn't (or vice versa), it's hard to find a place to relax (or study) without bothering each other.
4. At Inwood, all bills included (cable, phone, internet, etc) I pay less than $600/month because I have a roommate. That can easily be about $800 without a roommate (in a 600 sq ft apt vs my 1100 sq ft apt)
It's a personal choice for everyone, and not an easy one.
Sorry I talk so much *smiles* I'm avoiding studying for physiology and this is the most productive, non-productive thing for me to do
Zondeare said:I do want to give you one word of warning about Inwood. There's a lot of construction across the street. It's not fun to wake up at 7 every morning (thankfully not Sundays, but yes, even Saturdays). I HIGHLY suggest asking for an apt on the West side of the complex so you don't have as much of the noise.
As for roommates, I have a roommate, we went to the same college but didn't really know each other until we hooked up on the roommate bulletin board. I think it's a great way to meet people that you may want to live with. Most people who live by themselves love it, but it's really expensive to live by yourself in the Medical District. Most apt complexes have long wait lists for one bedrooms and the rents on them are usually outrageous. I have to admit though, the life of living by yourself is so attractive that I'm debating on whether I want to live by myself next year.
Things to consider in deciding to get a roommate:
1. Having someone else in med school who is studying a lot as well helps keep you motivated and reminds you that you aren't alone. It is so much easier to study with other people who are studying instead of talking to college friends who still go out every night of the week.
2. all first years take the same classes together, so you'll be stressed out at the same time - big way to get in big fights, but at least you know he/she'll be quiet when you need to study.
3. You'll have to respect each other's need for quiet to study in. If you're dont studying for the night, but your roommate isn't (or vice versa), it's hard to find a place to relax (or study) without bothering each other.
4. At Inwood, all bills included (cable, phone, internet, etc) I pay less than $600/month because I have a roommate. That can easily be about $800 without a roommate (in a 600 sq ft apt vs my 1100 sq ft apt)
It's a personal choice for everyone, and not an easy one.
Sorry I talk so much *smiles* I'm avoiding studying for physiology and this is the most productive, non-productive thing for me to do