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Does anyone know how admissions determines the waitlist order? Is it the date that you are put on the waitlist that they use or is there some formula using GPA, MCAT, etc.?
Slugbutton said:Hello all! I just got the letter today saying that I too am in the waitlist game. (Don't worry Bohica-Figmo, Army not AF). I'm accepting the HPSP this weekend just in case. Let's hope that list moves fast!
Just curious: does currently being on active duty carry any weight regarding wait list placement? It wouldn't seem right to make a 33 year old O-4 with 11 years on active duty go HPSP while some baby-faced 22 year old, fresh out of State U. with no military experience, goes to USUHS. That would be just wrong...ooh so wrong...
rotatores said:I'm not sure what you mean by this, nor why you'd have an advantage...although I guess it would suck to have to go from O-4 pay to a HPSP stipend.
rotatores
USUHS 2006
BOHICA-FIGMO said:Just curious: does currently being on active duty carry any weight regarding wait list placement? It wouldn't seem right to make a 33 year old O-4 with 11 years on active duty go HPSP while some baby-faced 22 year old, fresh out of State U. with no military experience, goes to USUHS. That would be just wrong...ooh so wrong...
AubreyMaturin said:Good info,
Out of curiosity, why did you decide not to join the Navy and go to USUHS?
Yep, then they supposedly tack the 4 USUHS years on the end after you make 20. Therefore, I could retire at 25 years once my commitment is up Or I could stay till 26 when the pay tables for O-5 and O-6 max outMoosePilot said:Sorry, I had another thought after I'd submitted that last post. If you've already got 11 years in, then you go through USUHS for 4, residency for about 3, and then owe 7, you'd have 25 years in, at least 21 of which count for retirement, wouldn't you?
OhioCraig said:Does anyone know how admissions determines the waitlist order? Is it the date that you are put on the waitlist that they use or is there some formula using GPA, MCAT, etc.?
RYANSADS said:Any word on this question?
AubreyMaturin said:I could not find the exact answer to this question on the USUHS website. You could try emailing the admissions office. It is probably a little bit of both. Most places more-or-less rank thier applicants, the top 150 get acceptances the rest get waitlisted according to rank. But USUHS is unique becase of branch waitlist, so I imagine that branch waitlist would be first-come-first-serrve. If no one else can answer this question, send them an email. If you still don't get an answer (it may take some time for them to respond), let me know and I will ask one of my contacts there.
3. Active duty vs. civilian acceptances: It was once explained to me and I have to admit that I did not totally graps the concept. It appears that there are two seperate pools of applications those AD and Civilians. There are a good mixture of the two groups in the class. It seems that the AD compete against each other and civilians compete within their respective group. I am sure there is overlap in between the two too. But admissions have a lot of respect for prior-service individuals
BlackFrancisMD said:I'm a USUHS MSIV. I can tell you that there is not the emphasis on branch waitlist portrayed in this post. This really only applies for people who have a tie to a particular service, ROTC, current active duty, academy etc. They accept you based on merit, and offer you which branch is available. They will try to satisfy your branch preference if they can. But if you ranked army#3, and the Air Force and Navy are full, you will be offered an Army slot. Or you will be given the option of staying on the waitlist for your preferred service.
The exact waitlist mechanics are unknown to me, but I can tell you there is no definite formula. It is based on your entire application with no preference to prior service, MCATs etc. Of course, having prior service likely made you a strong candidate to begin with, but there are probably people in front and behind you on the waitlist who do not have prior service.
The main message is that if you are without any ties to one of the services your branch preference does not effect your acceptance only which service you are offered.
Hope that helped.
BlackFrancis(almost)MD
BOHICA-FIGMO said:Just to clarify: since I have ties to the USAF (current AD), then I'm SOL for the other services? I would seriously consider taking an offer from the Navy for USUHS vs. USAF HPSP. Tough call, but I would consider it.
MoosePilot said:I thought if you were active duty you had to go into that service unless you arranged for a cross commission.
BOHICA-FIGMO said:Just to clarify: since I have ties to the USAF (current AD), then I'm SOL for the other services? I would seriously consider taking an offer from the Navy for USUHS vs. USAF HPSP. Tough call, but I would consider it.
BlackFrancisMD said:I'm a USUHS MSIV. I can tell you that there is not the emphasis on branch waitlist portrayed in this post. This really only applies for people who have a tie to a particular service, ROTC, current active duty, academy etc. They accept you based on merit, and offer you which branch is available. They will try to satisfy your branch preference if they can. But if you ranked army#3, and the Air Force and Navy are full, you will be offered an Army slot. Or you will be given the option of staying on the waitlist for your preferred service.
OhioCraig said:USUHS called me last week and told me I was off of the waitlist and to expect my acceptance packet soon. I was so happy I forgot to ask if my acceptance was for Army, Navy, or Airforce. The packet arrived today and it doesn't say, it is just a booklet with generic information about things like pay and housing. Does anyone know how long it will be before USUHS sends me more specific information?
OhioCraig said:USUHS called me last week and told me I was off of the waitlist and to expect my acceptance packet soon. I was so happy I forgot to ask if my acceptance was for Army, Navy, or Airforce. The packet arrived today and it doesn't say, it is just a booklet with generic information about things like pay and housing. Does anyone know how long it will be before USUHS sends me more specific information?
OhioCraig said:USUHS called me last week and told me I was off of the waitlist and to expect my acceptance packet soon. I was so happy I forgot to ask if my acceptance was for Army, Navy, or Airforce. The packet arrived today and it doesn't say, it is just a booklet with generic information about things like pay and housing. Does anyone know how long it will be before USUHS sends me more specific information?
JOE, I interviewed on February 10th, which I believe was the second to last interview day. I was put on the waitlist on March 18th. I put Army as my #1 choice. I called admissions and they told me that I was accepted for Army. Right now my acceptance is only conditional while I wait for the security clearance. I'm worried about the security clearance. I had a serious psychological reaction to taking an anti-malaria drug called mefloquine. The Army made everyone take mefloquine before heading to Iraq. The psychological problems went away as soon as I stopped taking it, but my behavior at the time got me a trip to see the wizard. I was totally honest about it on my security clearance questionaire. I just hope my honesty doesn't end up costing me my acceptance. I hope you hear good news soon Joe but keep in mind that most of the movement on the waitlist occurs around May 15th and you might not get accepted until after that date. I have a feeling that you will get in though considering your obvious enthusiasm for USUHS.jtriplet said:Craig, I forgot to ask this earlier, but when did you interview, when did you get placed on the waitlist and did you rank the services or say you'd take an acceptance in any? Just a couple questions from an inquisitive mind.
JOE
rotatores said:Congrats
As long as you get qualified prior to the April 15th deadline you can still get in prior to classes beginning (Army has to make up OBC the following summer...Navy doesn't have to make up OIS)...but in my class I hadn't heard of anyone being accepted after June.
rotatores
USUHS 2006
btw...I have no idea how the waitlist moves...I had a friend waitlisted in January who never got an invite...she was a solid applicant.
Nixie said:
Just been reading some of the posts and have a few comments (hopefully helpful).
1. Officially accepting a HSPS scholarship will disqualify you from USUHS. You have to pick one or the other. This is a little secret that some recruiters may not tell you. This does not mean that you can't apply for both concurrently. I had acceptances for both but once you've signed the dotted line for HPSP you can't take it back if your USUHS acceptance letter is delayed.
2. H/W vs. body fat%: The process usually is you get weighed...then you get taped. The story does not end there. Once accepted you go to your respective service basic course (OBC, OIS, COT) - one of the first fun activities is the weigh-in/ BF% (those not in standard) if your not with in standards when reporting to this command you run the risk of be sent home. The moral of the story - just stay within standards it will make life much easier in the end. Just keep in mind that if your not within standards prior to school starting you can easily be replaced with someone that is. I have not heard of that occuring but it would not surprise me. Some may fall threw the cracks but do you want to take that risk for yourself?
3. Active duty vs. civilian acceptances: It was once explained to me and I have to admit that I did not totally graps the concept. It appears that there are two seperate pools of applications those AD and Civilians. There are a good mixture of the two groups in the class. It seems that the AD compete against each other and civilians compete within their respective group. I am sure there is overlap in between the two too. But admissions have a lot of respect for prior-service individuals.
4. Waitlist: One of my classmates did not get off the wait list until late May/ Early june time frame. The key is to have all the DODMERB paperwork done and waivers in place.
Good luck to all and I hoped that helped
Nixie said:
Just been reading some of the posts and have a few comments (hopefully helpful).
1. Officially accepting a HSPS scholarship will disqualify you from USUHS. You have to pick one or the other. This is a little secret that some recruiters may not tell you. This does not mean that you can't apply for both concurrently. I had acceptances for both but once you've signed the dotted line for HPSP you can't take it back if your USUHS acceptance letter is delayed.
MoosePilot said:I've been thinking about this one lately. What are the deadlines? I don't want to get stuck giving up one option totally, but if I had to, I'd probably give up HPSP to avoid screwing up USUHS. It all depends on the deadlines....
Anyone have an idea?
cdreed said:Back during the 2002 application cycle, I was accepted to one program in Oct. I was subsequently waitlisted at USUHS in Dec. I was active duty, so when I was notified that I received the HPSP scholarship in April I was told that I had 2 weeks to decide whether I wanted to accept the scholarship and withdraw from USUHS or stay on the USUHS waitlist and give up the scholarship. I chose the sure thing, and before I, myself, withdrew from USUHS, the AFPC POC for HPSP sent me an email saying that I was already removed from waitlist status at USUHS.
Hope this was the info you wanted.
Wow. How did HPSP notify you of the scholarship? Voice, e-mail, or letter? Maybe HPSP won't be under such tight deadlines this year since there were only 12 folks competeing for 14 AD slots.cdreed said:Back during the 2002 application cycle, I was accepted to one program in Oct. I was subsequently waitlisted at USUHS in Dec. I was active duty, so when I was notified that I received the HPSP scholarship in April I was told that I had 2 weeks to decide whether I wanted to accept the scholarship and withdraw from USUHS or stay on the USUHS waitlist and give up the scholarship. I chose the sure thing, and before I, myself, withdrew from USUHS, the AFPC POC for HPSP sent me an email saying that I was already removed from waitlist status at USUHS.
Hope this was the info you wanted.
BOHICA-FIGMO said:Wow. How did HPSP notify you of the scholarship? Voice, e-mail, or letter? Maybe HPSP won't be under such tight deadlines this year since there were only 12 folks competeing for 14 AD slots.
MoosePilot said:I've been thinking about this one lately. What are the deadlines? I don't want to get stuck giving up one option totally, but if I had to, I'd probably give up HPSP to avoid screwing up USUHS. It all depends on the deadlines....
Anyone have an idea?
AubreyMaturin said:Even this late in the game, the Navy is still trying to get me into an HPSP. Perhaps the AF and Army fill their sholarships by now, but I know that the Navy has not.
jtriplet said:Well folks, it official. I got my letter of conditional acceptance for this years entering class today. I gotta say, I'm pretty pumped right now. Now there's so much to do.....OBC (yeah, by the way, it's an Army appointment), find a new residence, move across country, etc.
If anyone can please fill me in on how all this works, especially that short time b/w OBC and reporting to school, I woul really appreciate it (ie how does it work with orders, getting your stuff moved, are you still getting paid for those 2 weeks, and the rest of the minutia that I can't even comprehend at the moment.) Trying to figure out this stuff w/o any info is driving me batty.
I'm sure I'll be posting more very soon and often.
JOE
jtriplet said:Well folks, it official. I got my letter of conditional acceptance for this years entering class today. I gotta say, I'm pretty pumped right now. Now there's so much to do.....OBC (yeah, by the way, it's an Army appointment), find a new residence, move across country, etc.
If anyone can please fill me in on how all this works, especially that short time b/w OBC and reporting to school, I woul really appreciate it (ie how does it work with orders, getting your stuff moved, are you still getting paid for those 2 weeks, and the rest of the minutia that I can't even comprehend at the moment.) Trying to figure out this stuff w/o any info is driving me batty.
I'm sure I'll be posting more very soon and often.
JOE
Joe,jtriplet said:Well folks, it official. I got my letter of conditional acceptance for this years entering class today. I gotta say, I'm pretty pumped right now. Now there's so much to do.....OBC (yeah, by the way, it's an Army appointment), find a new residence, move across country, etc.
If anyone can please fill me in on how all this works, especially that short time b/w OBC and reporting to school, I woul really appreciate it (ie how does it work with orders, getting your stuff moved, are you still getting paid for those 2 weeks, and the rest of the minutia that I can't even comprehend at the moment.) Trying to figure out this stuff w/o any info is driving me batty.
I'm sure I'll be posting more very soon and often.
JOE
deegs said:Congrats! I will being going through the same stuff this summer, so I don't have exact experience, but I can tell you what I know.
You'll be getting a package emailed to you from Ms. Louise Taylor ([email protected]) which you'll have to fill out. Make sure you have room in your inbox as it is large. When she receives notice of you unconditional acceptance, she'll cut you orders.
You'll have two sets of orders this summer, TDY for OBC and PCS for USUHS. Once you have PCS orders, call up your local transportation office (not necessarially army) and arrange a household goods (HHG) shipment. I would do this the day you receive your PCS orders, as the dates on the calendar fill up quick. The movers will pack up your stuff and ship to DC, where they will be stored until you are read for them (up to 6 months). There are limits by pay grade and dependants for how much you can ship, but I don't know them off the top of my head.
See you June 12th!
mh5358 said:Deegs, have you received orders already? I am still waitiing for orders from Army HRC and Ms. Taylor requested them April 4th. I was told they are waiting on a fund site. How long between when Ms. Taylor told you she requested orders and when you actually received them?
A "fund cite" is a code that indicates where the money is coming from to pay for the expenses associated with your accession orders: travel, moving, meals, lodging, etc.; think of it like a bank routing number and account number. Ms. Taylor can cut the orders, but she has no control over the fund citation, and must wait for it to be issued to her by whomever's footing the bill for your accession travel with TDY-enroute.BabyHuey said:Hey I got the same info from Ms. Taylor. I guess I'm not the only one concerned that the May 15th deadline is near and we don't have orders yet. Hopefully they will come this week. Oh, and the website for the OBC in San Antonio is finally up and running. I'm thinking that it was the "fund site" that Ms. Taylor was talking about. Who knows... Anyway, see everyone June 12th!!!
jtriplet said:Thanks for the congrats everyone. I hope the waitlist keeps moving.
JOE
freelancer said:HEY CONGRATS everybody,
I had a question since I'm still here on the waiting list. I've been asking and calling often about my status on the waitlist. I was wondering if anybody was giving their chances... or ranking on the waiting list or anything of any sort?
deegs said:Congrats! I will being going through the same stuff this summer, so I don't have exact experience, but I can tell you what I know.
You'll be getting a package emailed to you from Ms. Louise Taylor ([email protected]) which you'll have to fill out. Make sure you have room in your inbox as it is large. When she receives notice of you unconditional acceptance, she'll cut you orders.
You'll have two sets of orders this summer, TDY for OBC and PCS for USUHS. Once you have PCS orders, call up your local transportation office (not necessarially army) and arrange a household goods (HHG) shipment. I would do this the day you receive your PCS orders, as the dates on the calendar fill up quick. The movers will pack up your stuff and ship to DC, where they will be stored until you are read for them (up to 6 months). There are limits by pay grade and dependants for how much you can ship, but I don't know them off the top of my head.
See you June 12th!