WAMC for UoP (OOS, NY). 4.0 GPA, 22AA

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Date of submission: applying in the upcoming cycle (junior)
Overall GPA: 4.0
Science GPA: 4.0
Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 4.0
DAT score (include AA and all sections):
22 AA/23 TS/25 PAT/18 RC/23 QR
State of Residence: NY

Undergrad Attended:
CUNY Hunter College
Major: Biological sciences
Minor: maybe chemistry
Minority?
Not sure (immigrant, middle eastern, white)
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad?
Yes

Shadowing Experience: ~200 (200 from several general and 50 from specialists)
Volunteering Experience: ~200 hrs clinical at dental general and specialist practices, 150 non-clinical (women in need organization, a pre-health mentoring initiative club that I am an ambassador and mentor for. I hold weekly advising hours for walk-in students to help them with their pre-health journey and also mentor 3 students individually. Fellow at America Needs You program which is a career-development program where we attend monthly workshops and network with people from different majors, careers, and backgrounds, we also have many interview practice sessions that happen almost every month, Red Cross tabling events, advising sessions for high school students)
Employment: ~3000 hrs dental assistant at multiple general practices as a permanent and temporary dental assistant, ~100 hours math tutor, ~1800 hrs retail
Research: one developmental biology research (~150 hrs dry research), presented and won second place award at the conference
Other Extracurriculars: Vice President at the research club at my school, Fellow at a career-development program called America Needs program called America Needs You, Tabling events for two clubs at my school, Hobbies are working out, reading astrophysics, playing piano, singing, and writing
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? Attended a virtual informational session held by an admission officer at UPenn, attended Tufts impressions day in 2023
Relevant Honors or Awards: Dean’s list for all semesters so far (5 semesters), got into a competitive 2-year fellowship program called America Needs You, got into a STEM enrichment and research program called Colligate science and technology entry program, award-winning research at conference
LOR type and strength: a committee letter (4 science professors, 1 dentist, 1 non-science, 1 dental office manager, one research supervisor, one volunteer supervisor, 1 fellowship program supervisor) I believe they are all strongly written
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags: N/A
School list:
(based on priority) U of Pacific, Rutgers, Boston, UPenn, Roseman, LECOM, Touro, Temple, Stony Brook, Connecticut, UPitt, Buffalo, NYU, Touro (might add or remove some, please let me know of any suggestions. I prefer urban schools with great clinicals. I did not take anatomy and physiology, so a few options are off the table.)

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Date of submission: applying in the upcoming cycle (junior)
Overall GPA: 4.0
Science GPA: 4.0
Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 4.0
DAT score (include AA and all sections):
22 AA/23 TS/25 PAT/18 RC/23 QR
State of Residence: NY

Undergrad Attended:
CUNY Hunter College
Major: Biological sciences
Minor: maybe chemistry
Minority?
Not sure (immigrant, middle eastern, white)
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad?
Yes

Shadowing Experience: ~200 (200 from several general and 50 from specialists)
Volunteering Experience: ~200 hrs clinical at dental general and specialist practices, 150 non-clinical (women in need organization, ambassador for peer advising hours at my school, mentor for 3 mentees that are new students in my school, Red Cross tabling events, advising sessions for high school students)
Employment: ~3000 hrs dental assistant at multiple general practices as permanent and temporary dental assistant, ~100 hours math tutor, ~1800 hrs retail
Research: one developmental biology research (~150 hrs dry research), presented and won second place award at the conference
Other Extracurriculars: Vice President at the research club at my school, Fellow at a career-development program called America Needs program called America Needs You, Tabling events for two clubs at my school, Hobbies are working out, reading astrophysics, playing piano, singing, and writing
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? Attended a virtual informational session held by an admission officer at UPenn, attended Tufts impressions day in 2023
Relevant Honors or Awards: Dean’s list for all semesters so far (5 semesters), got into a competitive 2-year fellowship program called America Needs You, got into a STEM enrichment and research program called Colligate science and technology entry program, award-winning research at conference
LOR type and strength: a committee letter (4 science professors, 1 dentist, 1 non-science, 1 dental office manager, one research supervisor, one volunteer supervisor, 1 fellowship program supervisor) I believe they are all strongly written
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags: N/A
School list:
(based on priority) U of Pacific, Rutgers, Boston, UPenn, Roseman, LECOM, Touro, Temple, Stony Brook, Connecticut, UPitt, Buffalo, NYU, Touro (might add or remove some, please let me know of any suggestions. I prefer urban schools with great clinicals. I did not take anatomy and physiology, so a few options are off the table.)
why is uop your top priority?
 
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Date of submission: applying in the upcoming cycle (junior)
Overall GPA: 4.0
Science GPA: 4.0
Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 4.0
DAT score (include AA and all sections):
22 AA/23 TS/25 PAT/18 RC/23 QR
State of Residence: NY

Undergrad Attended:
CUNY Hunter College
Major: Biological sciences
Minor: maybe chemistry
Minority?
Not sure (immigrant, middle eastern, white)
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad?
Yes

Shadowing Experience: ~200 (200 from several general and 50 from specialists)
Volunteering Experience: ~200 hrs clinical at dental general and specialist practices, 150 non-clinical (women in need organization, ambassador for peer advising hours at my school, mentor for 3 mentees that are new students in my school, Red Cross tabling events, advising sessions for high school students)
Employment: ~3000 hrs dental assistant at multiple general practices as permanent and temporary dental assistant, ~100 hours math tutor, ~1800 hrs retail
Research: one developmental biology research (~150 hrs dry research), presented and won second place award at the conference
Other Extracurriculars: Vice President at the research club at my school, Fellow at a career-development program called America Needs program called America Needs You, Tabling events for two clubs at my school, Hobbies are working out, reading astrophysics, playing piano, singing, and writing
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? Attended a virtual informational session held by an admission officer at UPenn, attended Tufts impressions day in 2023
Relevant Honors or Awards: Dean’s list for all semesters so far (5 semesters), got into a competitive 2-year fellowship program called America Needs You, got into a STEM enrichment and research program called Colligate science and technology entry program, award-winning research at conference
LOR type and strength: a committee letter (4 science professors, 1 dentist, 1 non-science, 1 dental office manager, one research supervisor, one volunteer supervisor, 1 fellowship program supervisor) I believe they are all strongly written
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags: N/A
School list:
(based on priority) U of Pacific, Rutgers, Boston, UPenn, Roseman, LECOM, Touro, Temple, Stony Brook, Connecticut, UPitt, Buffalo, NYU, Touro (might add or remove some, please let me know of any suggestions. I prefer urban schools with great clinicals. I did not take anatomy and physiology, so a few options are off the table.)
and please take off NYU...
 
Date of submission: applying in the upcoming cycle (junior)
Overall GPA: 4.0
Science GPA: 4.0
Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 4.0
DAT score (include AA and all sections):
22 AA/23 TS/25 PAT/18 RC/23 QR
State of Residence: NY

Undergrad Attended:
CUNY Hunter College
Major: Biological sciences
Minor: maybe chemistry
Minority?
Not sure (immigrant, middle eastern, white)
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad?
Yes

Shadowing Experience: ~200 (200 from several general and 50 from specialists)
Volunteering Experience: ~200 hrs clinical at dental general and specialist practices, 150 non-clinical (women in need organization, ambassador for peer advising hours at my school, mentor for 3 mentees that are new students in my school, Red Cross tabling events, advising sessions for high school students)
Employment: ~3000 hrs dental assistant at multiple general practices as permanent and temporary dental assistant, ~100 hours math tutor, ~1800 hrs retail
Research: one developmental biology research (~150 hrs dry research), presented and won second place award at the conference
Other Extracurriculars: Vice President at the research club at my school, Fellow at a career-development program called America Needs program called America Needs You, Tabling events for two clubs at my school, Hobbies are working out, reading astrophysics, playing piano, singing, and writing
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? Attended a virtual informational session held by an admission officer at UPenn, attended Tufts impressions day in 2023
Relevant Honors or Awards: Dean’s list for all semesters so far (5 semesters), got into a competitive 2-year fellowship program called America Needs You, got into a STEM enrichment and research program called Colligate science and technology entry program, award-winning research at conference
LOR type and strength: a committee letter (4 science professors, 1 dentist, 1 non-science, 1 dental office manager, one research supervisor, one volunteer supervisor, 1 fellowship program supervisor) I believe they are all strongly written
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags: N/A
School list:
(based on priority) U of Pacific, Rutgers, Boston, UPenn, Roseman, LECOM, Touro, Temple, Stony Brook, Connecticut, UPitt, Buffalo, NYU, Touro (might add or remove some, please let me know of any suggestions. I prefer urban schools with great clinicals. I did not take anatomy and physiology, so a few options are off the table.)
why roseman?
why LECOM?

why boston, but not tufts?
 
Clarify your community service. I don't know what your America Needs activities involves.

Otherwise, on metrics you look good. Keep networking.
Well, there's a pre-health mentoring initiative club that I am an ambassador and mentor for. I hold weekly advising hours to walk-in students to help them with their pre-health journey and also mentor 3 students individually. America Needs You is a career-development program where we attend monthly workshops and network with people from different majors, careers, and backgrounds, we also have many interview practice sessions that happen almost every month.
I really prefer to get into a 3-year program to be able to do a residency after finishing. Do you think I have a good shot at UoP?
 
why roseman?
why LECOM?

why boston, but not tufts?
I think that Tufts accepts a lot of minority students since I attended their Impressions day and also, I have 1 bio class and English class taken at a community college. I emailed them and they said they want the pre reqs to be from a 4-year even though I have taken many upper level classes at a 4 year.
LECOM because I heard they have strong clinicals. Roseman because of P/F and 3 year program, and strong clinicals.
 
why is uop your top priority?
I worked w a dentist who said a lot of great things about it. Plus many students go straight to work after finishing. Also being 3-year is a big plus.
 
I worked w a dentist who said a lot of great things about it. Plus many students go straight to work after finishing. Also being 3-year is a big plus.
roseman, lecom and uop don't make sense geographically
you will to show mission fit other than what you have listed...
 
roseman, lecom and uop don't make sense geographically
you will to show mission fit other than what you have listed...
Honestly, I lived in CA one year and I see myself living in SF since it's similar to NYC being Urban and etc...
Lecom because I do see myself living in Florida one day. I like the area and vibe.
Roseman honestly doesn't make sense because I just care about the 3 year and P/F program
 
Honestly, I lived in CA one year and I see myself living in SF since it's similar to NYC being Urban and etc...
Lecom because I do see myself living in Florida one day. I like the area and vibe.
Roseman honestly doesn't make sense because I just care about the 3 year and P/F program
that's not mission fit for UOP and LECOM...
 
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Well, there's a pre-health mentoring initiative club that I am an ambassador and mentor for. I hold weekly advising hours to walk-in students to help them with their pre-health journey and also mentor 3 students individually. America Needs You is a career-development program where we attend monthly workshops and network with people from different majors, careers, and backgrounds, we also have many interview practice sessions that happen almost every month.
I really prefer to get into a 3-year program to be able to do a residency after finishing. Do you think I have a good shot at UoP?
As I said, metrics make you desirable at a lot of schools.

Where you are lacking is community service. Prehealth mentoring and career development programs are nice extensions of what you know in helping your peers or younger children in a school environment. Working with people unlike yourself who are in distress such as housing or food insecurity is missing. You need to get out of a classroom and off campus to serve others and not as a subject matter expert. That's the main issue I see that could exclude you.
 
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Oh I do have that. I volunteered at a dental clinics for ~100 hrs serving under served patients. I also volunteered at Women in Need which is like a home shelter for women and families. I read storybooks for children and distributed school supplies for their kids. I did this for 70-80 hrs. I also did tabling for red cross 3 times totaling 15 hrs. Do you think I should do more??
 
I will research their mission statement and try to connect myself to it.
 
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Oh I do have that. I volunteered at a dental clinics for ~100 hrs serving under served patients. I also volunteered at Women in Need which is like a home shelter for women and families. I read storybooks for children and distributed school supplies for their kids. I did this for 70-80 hrs. I also did tabling for red cross 3 times totaling 15 hrs. Do you think I should do more??
Anything under 50 hours isn't worth mentioning on the application; it looks like you're padding your application otherwise. Yes, you should continue your activities, though if you are at least 100 hours, you should be fine. I think working in dental clinics goes under "clinical exposure" in my mind and doesn't contribute separately as "community service," which should not be associated with dentistry IMO.
 
Do you think it seems rushed if I start volunteering at a food pantry now?
 
Date of submission: applying in the upcoming cycle (junior)
Overall GPA: 4.0
Science GPA: 4.0
Bio-Chem-Physics GPA: 4.0
DAT score (include AA and all sections):
22 AA/23 TS/25 PAT/18 RC/23 QR
State of Residence: NY

Undergrad Attended:
CUNY Hunter College
Major: Biological sciences
Minor: maybe chemistry
Minority?
Not sure (immigrant, middle eastern, white)
Reapplicant? No
Nontrad?
Yes

Shadowing Experience: ~200 (200 from several general and 50 from specialists)
Volunteering Experience: ~200 hrs clinical at dental general and specialist practices, 150 non-clinical (women in need organization, a pre-health mentoring initiative club that I am an ambassador and mentor for. I hold weekly advising hours for walk-in students to help them with their pre-health journey and also mentor 3 students individually. Fellow at America Needs You program which is a career-development program where we attend monthly workshops and network with people from different majors, careers, and backgrounds, we also have many interview practice sessions that happen almost every month, Red Cross tabling events, advising sessions for high school students)
Employment: ~3000 hrs dental assistant at multiple general practices as a permanent and temporary dental assistant, ~100 hours math tutor, ~1800 hrs retail
Research: one developmental biology research (~150 hrs dry research), presented and won second place award at the conference
Other Extracurriculars: Vice President at the research club at my school, Fellow at a career-development program called America Needs program called America Needs You, Tabling events for two clubs at my school, Hobbies are working out, reading astrophysics, playing piano, singing, and writing
Have you volunteered/shadowed/attended events at any dental schools? Attended a virtual informational session held by an admission officer at UPenn, attended Tufts impressions day in 2023
Relevant Honors or Awards: Dean’s list for all semesters so far (5 semesters), got into a competitive 2-year fellowship program called America Needs You, got into a STEM enrichment and research program called Colligate science and technology entry program, award-winning research at conference
LOR type and strength: a committee letter (4 science professors, 1 dentist, 1 non-science, 1 dental office manager, one research supervisor, one volunteer supervisor, 1 fellowship program supervisor) I believe they are all strongly written
Misc Info/Things not stated elsewhere/Red Flags: N/A
School list:
(based on priority) U of Pacific, Rutgers, Boston, UPenn, Roseman, LECOM, Touro, Temple, Stony Brook, Connecticut, UPitt, Buffalo, NYU, Touro (might add or remove some, please let me know of any suggestions. I prefer urban schools with great clinicals. I did not take anatomy and physiology, so a few options are off the table.)
how are you nontrad?
 
Now let me think about your list:
School list: (based on priority) U of Pacific, Rutgers, Boston, UPenn, Roseman, LECOM, Touro, Temple, Stony Brook, Connecticut, UPitt, Buffalo, NYU, Touro
I really prefer to get into a 3-year program to be able to do a residency after finishing. Do you think I have a good shot at UoP?

As I mentioned before, on metrics, you can pick your program that you are willing to pay money to attend. Compare the costs of attendance at all of the schools. If public health dentistry is important to you, check out NHSC.

I can understand why you are thinking about NYU (aren't you afraid of riba?). They have a Muslim affinity group which I am sure you would participate in (Login • Instagram). I don't see anything similar at Roseman (Student Organizations I don't know how devout you are, but it might be a bit challenging unless there is a core group that isn't visible on this webpage (unofficial club). UoP has one (Login • Instagram). Check other schools through social media. What stories do they convey about their programs? Connect with them for more insight.
Do you think it seems rushed if I start volunteering at a food pantry now?
Your women's shelter work is fine, depending on your responsibilities.
 
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Here is a valuable lesson I learned going through the cycle this year: Do not become fixated on any one school, especially if it isn’t your state school. Even if you are above the stats of the school you want to get into, as there are so many variables involved with schools picking applicants. Also your opinion on which schools align with your interests could change once you actually visit these places for yourself.

Keep an open mind and don’t set yourself up for disappointment
 
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