Wayne State University part 01

[fun8stuff]

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I hate weiner, but I love the cock!

Sorry guys, too much studying for me... starting to go crazy.

sounds like you need to talk to your husband about relieving some of that tension! 😉

 

[Ypo.]

sounds like you need to talk to your husband about relieving some of that tension! 😉

Howdy Wayne State students-

Hi Funstuff! How are you liking Wayne State? (I ended up going to MSUCHM -its nice-maybe even too nice sometimes)

 

[Shangal]

I bet people in michigan state don't talk about weiners
yeah, michigan state sucks! wouldn't go there if the paid me too. bunch of no good spartans ..........

 

[Ypo.]

I bet people in michigan state don't talk about weiners
yeah, michigan state sucks! wouldn't go there if the paid me too. bunch of no good spartans ..........

Coldweather climates suck, in general.

I'm the type of person who responds to the question "Did you watch the game last night?" -with-

"What game? Was it football or basketball?"

Hey-but you've got to hand it to MSU-we certainly know how to riot.

 

[Shangal]

oh, I guess if you are there just for the med school that's o.k.
anyone know the difference between a DIC and a thrombosis,
what do they mean that the heart is an arterial organ.
and whats the different between a myocardial infarction and a cardiomyapathy
thanks for the help

 

[Evil X]

oh, I guess if you are there just for the med school that's o.k.
anyone know the difference between a DIC and a thrombosis,
what do they mean that the heart is an arterial organ.
and whats the different between a myocardial infarction and a cardiomyapathy
thanks for the help

DIC - disseminated intravascular coagulopathy - almost all aspects of coagulation are in full swing, consuming the coagulation factors, bleeding time, PT, PTT are all elevated

thrombosis - usually isolated and usually due to plaque formation. no changes in bleeding time, PT, PTT

MI - ischemia of myocardial tissue

cardiomyopathy - intrinsic abnormality of myocardial tissue

 

[Shangal]

thanks again

 

[fun8stuff]

Howdy Wayne State students-

Hi Funstuff! How are you liking Wayne State? (I ended up going to MSUCHM -its nice-maybe even too nice sometimes)

I like it here a lot (as much as is possible). Wayne ended up going out of their way for me in a few different ways, which made me have a change of heart. So I am happy with my choice. However, I am the type of person that would probably be happy just about any where.... We just got done with our third round of histo/embryo/anatomy exams, so I am taking a long weekend (wed-sun), except I have lab for 3 hours tomorrow.

ypo: How many people there are thinking about doing the summer prosectorships/dissections at MSU.. whatever it's called? I always wondered if very many people did that.

 

[oldjeeps]

Anyone else really like that last question, on today's exam? 😀
Wish that the rest of them had been as nice. That said, after what I was hearing about this exam from the third years, I was pleasantly surprised. Of course that might be just due to the change in course director.
Naturally, that is subject to change once I see how I did on the exam.

 

[Ypo.]

ypo: How many people there are thinking about doing the summer prosectorships/dissections at MSU.. whatever it's called? I always wondered if very many people did that.

Oh, I see about ten people dissection right now-usually the wanna be surgeons.

I for one am very glad I don't have to do dissection. But then again I don't want to do surgery.

Glad to hear you are liking Wayne State-talk to you later

 

[Thrice]

Gross lab was cancled today?

 

[Shangal]

man this was a long day today.
now I want my grade back, bet the average is going to be in the 90s

 

[fun8stuff]

Gross lab was cancled today?

yes, it made my day. i got some good ping pong and pool in....

 

[JonD-08]

I got raped on the images, but the rest was pretty reasonable. I'd say the over/under on the average probably starts around 83%.

Now to suffocate those hard-working brain cells with alcohol...

 

[oldjeeps]

man this was a long day today.
now I want my grade back, bet the average is going to be in the 90s

Still think that it could have been lots worse (and it sounds like it might have liked you better than me), but I think that I am going to put the average somewhere in the mid-80s.

 

[dancinjenn]

Hey! Hope to see y'all at the Halloween party tonite. I'm going as...ha!...not going to tell ya'. Damn wish my curlers were staying in. How do you do those hot rollers with the metal wingy fastner thingys...they never stay in my hair! Anyway, if you don't come you could always drink alone and pretend you were there!!!!

 

[Shangal]

life is so much funner when you are not studying!
just came back home and I wasn't coming back from a library, life isn't that bad

 

[shaydz]

life is so much funner when you are not studying!
just came back home and I wasn't coming back from a library, life isn't that bad

Man, I must've written a different exam than you guys. I thought it was the hardest exam so far this year.
Like I said before, I HATE Weiner and Vander Heide.
I thought I studied hard, but I guess not enough.

Now, I have to worry about passing the course by getting close to a 100 for the next exam. urgh...life sux!!!

 

[unoriginal]

so i just had a fun weekend and don't feel like studying anymore... my exams went well, but i have lost all motivation regardless. what should i do? drop oout? 😕 yes, i am an M1.

 

[Shangal]

no!
get your ass back to the library and study some more

 

[katrinadams9]

I just tried logging into the PD lottery site... I got on the site fine, but there's no way to choose anything! WTF?

Do any of you 2nd and 3rd years have any advice about PD locations? I've heard rumors that Recieving and the VA are terrible...

 

[deowolf04]

I just tried logging into the PD lottery site... I got on the site fine, but there's no way to choose anything! WTF?

Do any of you 2nd and 3rd years have any advice about PD locations? I've heard rumors that Recieving and the VA are terrible...

🙄 The way this "lottery" is probably going to work is the computer will invert everyone's list (so #13 is #1, etc) and assign accordingly. That way, all the spots no one wants will be filled early in the process and no one will be happy. 🙄

 

[theSCIS]

🙄 The way this "lottery" is probably going to work is the computer will invert everyone's list (so #13 is #1, etc) and assign accordingly. That way, all the spots no one wants will be filled early in the process and no one will be happy. 🙄

Thought I'd weigh in as a 3rd year since I've read a couple bad comments about receiving. I thought it was a great place to do PD. The groups are 2 or at most 3 students.

You'll go in with your partner, do the h&p and then a doctor will join you (I had Dr. Norman who is awesome). Its really laid back and will make you pretty well prepared for 3rd year.

I think all the sites are really pretty similar so I wouldn't worry too much...pick whatever is most convenient, but don't be afraid of receiving.

Hope this helps,
Beth

 

[unoriginal]

could any of you M2+ years comment on how you studied for the anatomy & histo cummulative exams (and learned lower limb)? what type of schedule did you have?

 

[123212]

Hi all,
So here is my idea. I realize this forum has been important for a select few in order to discuss daily life at WSU, but it is somewhat limiting since we can only have one topic. I am willing to set up a forum specifically for us that way each class could have a their own forum and could create as many different topics as needed. This could provide a way for future classes to look at old posts in order to get advice from those who did it before them. The first and second years could discuss lectures, while the third and fourth years could say which rotations were good and which sucked. Also, instead of 50 emails about USMLE books, there could be a classified section for people to post at. The best part is that it is outside of the school so administrators could not fault us for using the wrong email list and it could be completely annonymous. Give me some feedback before I suggest it the school as a whole.

 

[deowolf04]

could any of you M2+ years comment on how you studied for the anatomy & histo cummulative exams (and learned lower limb)? what type of schedule did you have?

To start out, I think that the unit 4 questions for both classes, especially anatomy, were harder than the cumulative questions. Until the week before the histo exam, you really want to balance the two classes to make sure you don't get too far behind in anatomy that you can't learn everything after the histo final. The first three units should come back to you upon a decent review, and by decent I mean you shouldn't need to study as hard as you did the first time through. When it comes time for the exams, study hard, keep doing what you've been doing, and you should be fine.

 

[Shangal]

we were wrong about the pathobio average. seemed like we didn't break an 80 % average. for a second I thought our class was slacking off, but then I took a look at our psych and pharm average and then I felt better about our class performance.
I just think we can do better, I am hoping we average at leaset a 90% next time. And a perfect score shouldn't give you honors! That will be just too easy for our class. I think honors should be given only to people who get perfect scores and get their exams handed in half way through the given time for the exam.

 

[katrinadams9]

we were wrong about the pathobio average. seemed like we didn't break an 80 % average. for a second I thought our class was slacking off, but then I took a look at our psych and pharm average and then I felt better about our class performance.
I just think we can do better, I am hoping we average at leaset a 90% next time. And a perfect score shouldn't give you honors! That will be just too easy for our class. I think honors should be given only to people who get perfect scores and get their exams handed in half way through the given time for the exam.

I really hope you're being sarcastic. Any time the average is low, I practically celebrate. I'm busting my ass just to make the average half the time, so when it's lower my grade looks better in comparison. There's no doubt in my mind that our class was not "slacking off" in path. Our low average compared to the other exams just reflects the ****ty teaching, notes and test questions.

 

[Shangal]

katrina adams, it sounds like you've been slacking off

 

[fun8stuff]

i think i am kind of afraid to ask.... but after anatomy & histo.... does it get better or worse or stays about the same?

 

[deowolf04]

i think i am kind of afraid to ask.... but after anatomy & histo.... does it get better or worse or stays about the same?

"Better" and "worse" are relative terms that are based on your preferences more than anything else. The biggest thing that changes is that you will have more free time to study and have a little more of a life without being confined to the dungeon. But, be warned, the physio packet is incredibly thick.

 

[CeLo]

It gets worse.

 

[Shangal]

I thought anatomy was worse then anything I experienced so far. But some people enjoyed it, so I guess it depends on what you like.
I think more then anything you get used to studying non-stop. That's why our first exam averages in anatomy and histology were relatively low, and after that we consistely got above 84%s after that. Not because our first set of exams were tougher, but because we weren't used to med school life yet.
Well our averages weren't consistely above 84, our first phys and our second biochem average's were both in the 70s. but I am saying generally speaking the averages went up.
To be honest, I think if you are just in med school to pass school isn't that bad. But if you are aiming to be on the top 20th percentile for school, well life then will suck! unless you love torturing your self or are like those people who like to learn new things

 

[oldjeeps]

i think i am kind of afraid to ask.... but after anatomy & histo.... does it get better or worse or stays about the same?

just look at all the second years asking the third years if it gets better after the boards... that should give you some idea as to the answer to your question.

Or were you specifically asking about first year?

 

[fun8stuff]

just look at all the second years asking the third years if it gets better after the boards... that should give you some idea as to the answer to your question.

Or were you specifically asking about first year?

just in general. i'm getting sick of studying so much! but i guess, this was to be expected.

 

[Lesion Of Doom]

i think i am kind of afraid to ask.... but after anatomy & histo.... does it get better or worse or stays about the same?

It does not get better until 4th year. Here's how it works:



1. 1st year: You are out of Anatomy and Anatomy lab but can’t celebrate just yet. Now the faculty feels that since you are not hanging out in lab so much, they can bombard you with much more information now. So time out of lab means much more time in the books and notes. Then you have to study for Step 1 afterwards.

2. 2nd year. When I was a first year studying in a library, a 2nd year turned around to me and asked “have you ever felt that you were given so much information that you literally felt like throwing up?” Once I got to Pathophys, I knew that feeling well and Pathophys last until the end of the year. Get those buckets and IV electrolytes ready! You spend the rest of the year reading so much that you will want to scream “No More! Don’t give me another piece of information to retain!”
As soon as you scream this, check your mailboxes and you will find another bundle of notes in it that was “mistakenly left out” in the original bundle. I like to call this “kicking us while we are down.” They will kick you while you are down for the rest of the year.

3. 3rd year: You are finally out of Scott Hall and the lecture halls!!! But you can’t celebrate just yet. Now you must prepare for monthly or bimonthly mini USMLE exams that they call shelf exams. Not only this but you have to deal with strange and annoying personalities and hierarchies on the wards. You will have a little more time to hang out though but the former stuff will blunt this effect a bit. In other words, third year has its on special kind of difficulty.


4. 4th year. You are finally golden and can celebrate! You gain a significant amount of more respect and Attendings will actually have colleague-like conversations with you and they won’t ride you nearly as hard as they did in third year. You have to study for Step 2 but it is nothing like preparing for step one and you are staring at that light at the end of the tunnel right in the eye.


Anyone that tells you that it gets better before 4th year is developing that terrible syndrome that so many physicians develop which is forgetting what it was like to be a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd year med student. This is a progressive disease that will ultimately cause them to crap on medical students frequently.

 

[fun8stuff]

It does not get better until 4th year. Here is how it works:



1. 1sy year: You are out of Anatomy and Anatomy lab but can’t celebrate just yet. Now the faculty feels that since you are not hanging out in lab so much, they can bombard you with much more information now. So time out of lab means much more time in the books and notes. Then you have to study for Step 1 afterwards.

2. 2nd year. When I was a first year studying in a library, a 2nd year turned around to me and asked “have you ever felt that you were required to retain so much information that you literally felt like throwing up?” Once I got to Pathophys, I knew that feeling well and Pathophys last until the end of the year. Get those buckets and IV electrolytes ready! You spend the rest of the year reading so much that you will want to scream “No More! Don’t give me another piece of information to retain!”
As soon as you scream this, check your mailboxes and you will find another bundle of notes in it that was “mistakenly left out” in the original bundle. I like to call this “kicking us while we are down.” They will kick you while you are down for the rest of the year.

3. 3rd year: You are finally out of Scott Hall and the lecture halls!!! But you can’t celebrate just yet. Now you must prepare for monthly or bimonthly mini USMLE exams that they call shelf exams. Not only this but you have to deal with strange and annoying personalities and hierarchies on the wards. You will have a little more time to hang out though but the former stuff will blunt this effect a bit. In other words, third year has its on special kind of difficulty.


4. 4th year. You are finally golden and can celebrate! You gain a significant amount of more respect and Attending will actually have colleague-like conversations with you and they won’t ride you nearly as hard as they did in third year. You have to study for Step 2 but it is nothing like preparing for step one and you are staring at that light at the end of the tunnel right in the eye.


Anyone that tells you that it gets better before 4th year is developing that terrible syndrome that so many physicians develop which is forgetting what it was like to be a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd year med student. This is a progressive disease that will ultimately cause them to crap on medical students frequently.

well, only 1308 days to go until it's over...

 

[Lesion Of Doom]

well, only 1308 days to go until it's over...

Now that's the Spirit!!!

 

[lj1230]

any idea when they are gonna let us know about our PD site?

 

[Flobber]

any idea when they are gonna let us know about our PD site?

What would be the least convenient and most annoying time to find out? My guess is about 25 minutes before we're scheduled to be at the site. They will, of course, include a statement in the email telling us that ATTENDANCE IS MANDATORY and NO EXCUSES FOR TARDINESS WILL BE ACCEPTED! Oh, WSU administration, I love you so.

 

[Lesion Of Doom]

What would be the least convenient and most annoying time to find out? My guess is about 25 minutes before we're scheduled to be at the site. They will, of course, include a statement in the email telling us that ATTENDANCE IS MANDATORY and NO EXCUSES FOR TARDINESS WILL BE ACCEPTED! Oh, WSU administration, I love you so.

I couldn't have said it better. You get a great education at WSU but two things must be OK with you:

1. Being despised by many faculty members.

2. Dealing with "ho hum" faculty members.


Well, at least you will be more than satisfied with your hands on training.

 

[dancinjenn]

Hi all,
So here is my idea. I realize this forum has been important for a select few in order to discuss daily life at WSU, but it is somewhat limiting since we can only have one topic. I am willing to set up a forum specifically for us that way each class could have a their own forum and could create as many different topics as needed. This could provide a way for future classes to look at old posts in order to get advice from those who did it before them. The first and second years could discuss lectures, while the third and fourth years could say which rotations were good and which sucked. Also, instead of 50 emails about USMLE books, there could be a classified section for people to post at. The best part is that it is outside of the school so administrators could not fault us for using the wrong email list and it could be completely annonymous. Give me some feedback before I suggest it the school as a whole.

I really like this idea, but where would the server space come from? Here? I'm not sure that SDN would be willing to set up a Wayne only section. And I'm not sure that Wayne should supply the space as well, I can just imagine if something derogatory was posted about a particular person or prof and then it would get shut down, no matter how true the gossip was. And then there is the question of maintenance. Someone would have to keep the site up and make sure that we did not exceed alotted space and whatnot...and while I'm sure that you are willing to do this for a year or two, who takes it over after that? I guess that the idea sounds good but there are a few things that may make it not feasable....anyone else want to throw in their hat?

 

[katrinadams9]

Anyone else get Sinai Grace? I looked up the location online (go mapquest) and it's actually not far from me, so I'm not as upset now as I was earlier today... 🙂 Hopefully the docs we're working with don't have terrible accents though! Both of their names are so foreign sounding.

 

[Lesion Of Doom]

Anyone else get Sinai Grace? I looked up the location online (go mapquest) and it's actually not far from me, so I'm not as upset now as I was earlier today... 🙂 Hopefully the docs we're working with don't have terrible accents though! Both of their names are so foreign sounding.

You get used to the accents after a couple of days of listening to them a great deal of the time. I thought I would never understand Dr. Bachi but now I wonder how could I have never not understood him.

 

[123212]

I really like this idea, but where would the server space come from? Here? I'm not sure that SDN would be willing to set up a Wayne only section. And I'm not sure that Wayne should supply the space as well, I can just imagine if something derogatory was posted about a particular person or prof and then it would get shut down, no matter how true the gossip was. And then there is the question of maintenance. Someone would have to keep the site up and make sure that we did not exceed alotted space and whatnot...and while I'm sure that you are willing to do this for a year or two, who takes it over after that? I guess that the idea sounds good but there are a few things that may make it not feasable....anyone else want to throw in their hat?

There are free sites that allow the server space in exchange for advertising. I agree that the maintenance would be necessary and hopefully it could just be passed down over time.

I think this business with the PD sites is the perfect reason for why something like this would be great. Instead of having our inboxes clogged with everyone's emails, we could just start a thread on the WSU forums about it. That way everyone could wheel and deal without bothering those who aren't interested.

Maybe some of you would be interested in being moderators.

http://wsusom.10.forumer.com

 

[Soleil9]

http://wsusom.10.forumer.com

Excellent idea!
Will you send an email to the class email list announcing it?

edit: depending on what it entails, I could be a moderator...

 

[Shangal]

I can help, I am on the internet most of the day anyways

 

[fun8stuff]

You get used to the accents after a couple of days of listening to them a great deal of the time. I thought I would never understand Dr. Bachi but now I wonder how could I have never not understood him.

i still don't understand him! I can't understand anything he says in lecture and i can only make out a few things in person i think he is a wonderful guy. he normally helps us out quite a bit. i think it's because i am slightly hard of hearing.... going deaf, i suspect. i get ringing in my ears every once in awhile. 😱

 

[123212]

I will send it out to the class listserves once I get some of the kinks worked out. What do you think, should I make it private so that you have to register to read it? I figure this might entice people to post and contribute rather than just browse like so many do on this forum. On the other hand, it could backfire and mean less people use it.

 

[123212]

Do you think that you guys could register and move some of the convo over there as a test trial? Maybe work on what good forums would be etc.