Wayne State University part 01

[oldjeeps]

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It depends on what unit you are in. First year, you have to go pretty much everyday during anatomy and histology due to labs. For physio and biochem you could probably not go at all except for the exams. For neuro you would need to go about once a week.

I certainly don't advocate this, but it is possible. As for studying, I am the world's biggest procrastinator at home, so I study at Shiffman, but that's the benefit of being 4 min from school.

Fun,
I'll have to echo ddmoore's comments here (except I usually head for my local coffee shop or public library).
There is one other variable: what type of learner are you? If you learn best when you go to lectures (or are too OCD to skip a lecture), then be sure to do so. If that is not the case you might even be able to get by without watching/listening to the lectures and just going off the notes that WSU distributes.

 

[fun8stuff]

Fun,
I'll have to echo ddmoore's comments here (except I usually head for my local coffee shop or public library).
There is one other variable: what type of learner are you? If you learn best when you go to lectures (or are too OCD to skip a lecture), then be sure to do so. If that is not the case you might even be able to get by without watching/listening to the lectures and just going off the notes that WSU distributes.

thanks again for your advice. i'm curious: do most profs give you an outline of what will be on the test or is it generally assumed to know every little thing that was covered in lecture?

i am pretty OCD about lectures now, but i'm not really sure how much i get from them. When I have missed lecture in the past, i don't think it really hindered me for the test...

 

[ddmo]

There is a list of objectives that the professors stress, but I have yet to figure out why? For the most part you simply need to know every single piece of information in the notes... and then some, haha.

 

[MD'05]

Don't listen to him, if you want to spend time with your GF/fiance then you'll find it. I recently got engaged and my fiance lives in Lansing. I find time to visit him every weekend (or he comes here to see me). It's really all about prioritizing and making sure you get enough studying done during the week in order to have the weekends free. We're actually moving in together before I start year 2 because we're getting married in December and it'll be easier to not need to move during the school year. Though I don't have much experience in this area, I've been told that it's really nice to come home and have your significant other there. I'm sure it really helps having that kind of support and comfort.

You'll be changing your tune come second year.

 

[MD'05]

How is the medical library??

They didn't take us there on tour, is there a reason?

Yup. It sucks.

 

[fun8stuff]

You'll be changing your tune come second year.

yeah, well fortunately my gf is not high maintenance. We've been together for about 4 yrs, so it's not your typical thing. I think she understands the time commitment..or i think she is as prepared as she can be.

 

[lj1230]

It really isn't that bad. I have been able to still maintain good grades, a life outside of school, and some amount of work. I know that my Fiance and I talked about med school a lot before I started, and so far things are great!! I still get to see him everyday and it helps to come home and just relax a bit with him before starting studying!!! You will be fine!!!

Everyone tries to scare you telling you that you'll lose your gf/bf and all your friends, but it really isn't that bad!

 

[I'msodesperate]

Hi every body,

I'm currently a sophomore/chem major/Wayne pre-med student. I'm very interested in applying to wayne state. The problem is my low G.P.A. I have two C's in bio (BIO 1500) and organic 1 and I had to repeat genaral bio (Bio 1510). I graduated from high school with a 4.00, but college sure is different. My first semester went ok with getting all A's in chem, english and others except BIO 1500 (the class is about plants, mainly, and animals) I got my first C. In the second semester, unfortunate events occured (my brother needed bone marrow transplant, imagine the situation I was in) which lead to C in organic 1, B- in Calc 1, and I droped bio 1510. I took summer classes, Organic 2 and got A's on lec. and lab, and got a B in BIO 1510. The fall of my sophmore year went very well, except for Calc 2, got an B- aganin (I suck at calc and math prof. at Wayne suck 😡 ) Now it's my winter semester, I'm taking microbiology (I'm already done with the pre men chem requirement) I'm enjoying the class and doing o.k.
Last month I started volunteering at a hospital and shadowing a doctor in a lymphoma clinic. I loved working in hospital and clinic so far. I will also start a research this summer.

*My advisor advised me to retake both orgo 1 and Bio 1500, but would that really make a difference, isn't bad to repeat two classes?

*Did I start too late with the volunteering, shadowing, researching (I didn't do any thing freshman year and the begining of sophomore year)?

*what else should I do to improve my chances at getting accepted to wayne medical school?

*Can you share with me some of your back up plans, if not accepted to wayne?

*Is there any body who struggled freshman year, then improved and got accepted?



thank you for your time 😳

 

[MD'05]

Life's about dealing with hardships in stride, so no big deal. I ended up doing pretty well in the end, so no worries there. Besides, I thought I would lead the make-up slots open for all the people feigning illness, haha.

No offense, but either you are a tad bit sociopathic or you were not that close to your grandmother.

 

[MD'05]

Hi every body,

I'm currently a sophomore/chem major/Wayne pre-med student. I'm very interested in applying to wayne state. The problem is my low G.P.A. I have two C's in bio (BIO 1500) and organic 1 and I had to repeat genaral bio (Bio 1510). I graduated from high school with a 4.00, but college sure is different. My first semester went ok with getting all A's in chem, english and others except BIO 1500 (the class is about plants, mainly, and animals) I got my first C. In the second semester, unfortunate events occured (my brother needed bone marrow transplant, imagine the situation I was in) which lead to C in organic 1, B- in Calc 1, and I droped bio 1510. I took summer classes, Organic 2 and got A's on lec. and lab, and got a B in BIO 1510. The fall of my sophmore year went very well, except for Calc 2, got an B- aganin (I suck at calc and math prof. at Wayne suck 😡 ) Now it's my winter semester, I'm taking microbiology (I'm already done with the pre men chem requirement) I'm enjoying the class and doing o.k.
Last month I started volunteering at a hospital and shadowing a doctor in a lymphoma clinic. I loved working in hospital and clinic so far. I will also start a research this summer.

*My advisor advised me to retake both orgo 1 and Bio 1500, but would that really make a difference, isn't bad to repeat two classes?

*Did I start too late with the volunteering, shadowing, researching (I didn't do any thing freshman year and the begining of sophomore year)?

*what else should I do to improve my chances at getting accepted to wayne medical school?

*Can you share with me some of your back up plans, if not accepted to wayne?

*Is there any body who struggled freshman year, then improved and got accepted?



thank you for your time 😳

The main thing you need to do is start schmoozing with the WSUSOM administration now! They LOVE WSU students. Make sure you do research through the medical school so that you can get LORs from physicians known to the adcom at the medical school. Also, show how hard you can work and what a joy you are to be around. But always, always, always, make sure your coursework and GPA comes first!

As far as your course grades go, they are not great, but I would never repeat a course. Take an upper level course and do extremely well. It is all about showing improvement. I suggest taking a biochemistry course and cell biology course and doing extremely well in both. These courses will be invaluable once you begin medical school.

I hope this helps.

 

[katrinadams9]

No offense, but either you are a tad bit sociopathic or you were not that close to your grandmother.

My grandmother died the Thursday before classes started at Wayne. While I was deeply saddened by this, she was 89 and we all knew she'd be checking out soon. I also lost one of my uncles right before Thanksgiving. That was much harder to deal with, because he was so much younger.

While I didn't need to make up any exams because of either death in the family, I can understand why someone would need to. If it was my one of my sisters or mother who'd died, I'd be an emotional wreck and probably need to take a leave of absence. But with my grandma, she was old and had lived a very long life. I think it's wrong to say that just because someone isn't an emotional wreck doesn't mean they weren't very close to the person. It's much easier to deal with the deaths of grandparents and other older people. Also, maybe the person had a very long, drawnout death from cancer. I think when those people die, it's more of a relief because they aren't suffering anymore.

 

[ddmo]

No offense, but either you are a tad bit sociopathic or you were not that close to your grandmother.

Well, if you knew the entire scenario, you probably wouldn't be running your mouth like this, so i'll just forgive this ridiculous comment and won't justify it with a further response.

As for the taking time off, I can completely understand if that is what someone needs to do, but my point was that I respect someone who doesn't want exceptions to be made for them, that's all.

 

[MD'05]

Well, if you knew the entire scenario, you probably wouldn't be running your mouth like this, so i'll just forgive this ridiculous comment and won't justify it with a further response.

Who the hell was talking to you? I expressed my opinion and my opinion stands. I think it is pretty cold to be able to take an exam when a loved one has just died. I couldn't do it.

 

[Flobber]

Who the hell was talking to you? I expressed my opinion and my opinion stands. I think it is pretty cold to be able to take an exam when a loved one has just died. I couldn't do it.

I'm not interested in turning our little piece of SDN into a flame war, but I have to say this: MD05, every damn thing you post is some type of downer or insult. By your name, I'm assuming your a fourth year, which means you barely even count as a WSU student anymore. You're essentially a doc now. Leave the thread to us unenlightened and naive little students.

 

[MD'05]

I'm not interested in turning our little piece of SDN into a flame war, but I have to say this: MD05, every damn thing you post is some type of downer or insult. By your name, I'm assuming your a fourth year, which means you barely even count as a WSU student anymore. You're essentially a doc now. Leave the thread to us unenlightened and naive little students.

Goodbye then cruel med students! Flounder in your naivete!

 

[oldjeeps]

Goodbye then cruel med students! Flounder in your naivete!

Md’05

For a fourth year med student (assuming that’s what you are) you seem extremely out of it. You should have learned a long time ago that not everyone is going to agree with your opinion.
In case you never noticed during your clinical rotations, it is possible to actually mourn someone before they die (I know since I have done it with two grandparents – both with long-term illnesses). That is why it is useful to know the entire scenario. I am in complete agreement with katrinadams9, in some circumstances it is more of a relief to know that your loved ones suffering has come to an end.

Leave and take any words of wisdom, if you feel so inclined. However, if you do that thinking that we are “cruel med students”, then I wish you luck on dealing with all of the “cruel” people that you are going to have to deal with as an intern. I would suggest that you find a way to develop a thicker hide so that you’ll be less touchy.

 

[oldjeeps]

Well, if you knew the entire scenario, you probably wouldn't be running your mouth like this, so i'll just forgive this ridiculous comment and won't justify it with a further response.

As for the taking time off, I can completely understand if that is what someone needs to do, but my point was that I respect someone who doesn't want exceptions to be made for them, that's all.

ddmoore,
My sympathies to you on the loss of your grandmother.
Like you, I respect individuals that want to roll with life’s punches and not have exceptions made for them and I can understand why some might feel the need to take some time off to mourn.
Personally, it has always been a question of when I did my mourning – after the death or before (in my experiences, during long periods of deterioration where it was obvious that death was not too far off).

 

[MD'05]

Md’05

For a fourth year med student (assuming that’s what you are) you seem extremely out of it. You should have learned a long time ago that not everyone is going to agree with your opinion.
In case you never noticed during your clinical rotations, it is possible to actually mourn someone before they die (I know since I have done it with two grandparents – both with long-term illnesses). That is why it is useful to know the entire scenario. I am in complete agreement with katrinadams9, in some circumstances it is more of a relief to know that your loved ones suffering has come to an end.

Leave and take any words of wisdom, if you feel so inclined. However, if you do that thinking that we are “cruel med students”, then I wish you luck on dealing with all of the “cruel” people that you are going to have to deal with as an intern. I would suggest that you find a way to develop a thicker hide so that you’ll be less touchy.

OMG, please take yourself less seriously, oh-self-righteous one.

The only people who are relieved that their loved one has died are the people that have to care for that loved one or pay the hospital bill. That's what my clinical rotations have taught me, oh wise one.

 

[oldjeeps]

Hi every body,

I'm currently a sophomore/chem major/Wayne pre-med student. I'm very interested in applying to wayne state. The problem is my low G.P.A. I have two C's in bio (BIO 1500) and organic 1 and I had to repeat genaral bio (Bio 1510). I graduated from high school with a 4.00, but college sure is different. My first semester went ok with getting all A's in chem, english and others except BIO 1500 (the class is about plants, mainly, and animals) I got my first C. In the second semester, unfortunate events occured (my brother needed bone marrow transplant, imagine the situation I was in) which lead to C in organic 1, B- in Calc 1, and I droped bio 1510. I took summer classes, Organic 2 and got A's on lec. and lab, and got a B in BIO 1510. The fall of my sophmore year went very well, except for Calc 2, got an B- aganin (I suck at calc and math prof. at Wayne suck 😡 ) Now it's my winter semester, I'm taking microbiology (I'm already done with the pre men chem requirement) I'm enjoying the class and doing o.k.
Last month I started volunteering at a hospital and shadowing a doctor in a lymphoma clinic. I loved working in hospital and clinic so far. I will also start a research this summer.

*My advisor advised me to retake both orgo 1 and Bio 1500, but would that really make a difference, isn't bad to repeat two classes?

*Did I start too late with the volunteering, shadowing, researching (I didn't do any thing freshman year and the begining of sophomore year)?

*what else should I do to improve my chances at getting accepted to wayne medical school?

*Can you share with me some of your back up plans, if not accepted to wayne?

*Is there any body who struggled freshman year, then improved and got accepted?



thank you for your time 😳

I wouldn’t sweat a couple of Cs too much. I had a D in a Biology class and still managed to get in. One of the things that can work for you is the trend of your grades – do your grades improve as you adjust to college life? Remember while the average undergrad GPA is mid-3s that means there are folks with lower ones (my undergrad GPA was approx. 3.0 and I have been holding my own, so far - of course it did take me a few rounds of re-applying to get in).
If calc sucks for you; then why are you still dealing with it?
As for if it is bad for you to retake multiple classes, I think that depends on the school (how it shows up on your transcript), your reason for re-taking, and the medical school you are interested in (re-takes show up differently on different applications). Think about how your admissions packet is going to look as a whole – not just GPA.

Volunteering/shadowing/etc I think depend more on the quality of your experiences from here out (and the letters that you can get from them). Like has already been mentioned, if you want to get in at Wayne, start working on making yourself a recognized individual. The better the admissions committee feels that they know you the better (generally).

As for backup plans, think about applying to multiple schools. Unless you are dead set on being an MD, I would suggest that you spend some time reading up on DOs and thinking about if that might be a viable alternative for you.
You might also consider the PA route. I know a few MDs that if they had it all to do over would have become PAs.

 

[oldjeeps]

OMG, please take yourself less seriously, oh-self-righteous one.

The only people who are relieved that their loved one has died are the people that have to care for that loved one or pay the hospital bill. That's what my clinical rotations have taught me, oh wise one.

Sorry to break it to you, oh cynical one, but some people actually do really care about their loved ones and the suffering that they are going through. Maybe you didn’t see that around the DMC; if so, then that is an unfortunate thing. Your comments seem to suggest that you are never lost a loved one, after a long drawn-out illness – if that is the case I am extremely jealous and hope that you never have to go through it. However, after you do (if you are unfortunate enough to do so) you might change your tune.

Personally, seeing my grandmother waste away to nothing but a shell of herself bothered me more than her funeral. Do I miss her? Most certainly, but I miss who she was up until the last six months of her life (when she got sick).

 

[I'msodesperate]

I wouldn’t sweat a couple of Cs too much. I had a D in a Biology class and still managed to get in. One of the things that can work for you is the trend of your grades – do your grades improve as you adjust to college life? Remember while the average undergrad GPA is mid-3s that means there are folks with lower ones (my undergrad GPA was approx. 3.0 and I have been holding my own, so far - of course it did take me a few rounds of re-applying to get in).
If calc sucks for you; then why are you still dealing with it?
As for if it is bad for you to retake multiple classes, I think that depends on the school (how it shows up on your transcript), your reason for re-taking, and the medical school you are interested in (re-takes show up differently on different applications). Think about how your admissions packet is going to look as a whole – not just GPA.

Volunteering/shadowing/etc I think depend more on the quality of your experiences from here out (and the letters that you can get from them). Like has already been mentioned, if you want to get in at Wayne, start working on making yourself a recognized individual. The better the admissions committee feels that they know you the better (generally).

As for backup plans, think about applying to multiple schools. Unless you are dead set on being an MD, I would suggest that you spend some time reading up on DOs and thinking about if that might be a viable alternative for you.
You might also consider the PA route. I know a few MDs that if they had it all to do over would have become PAs.

thank you all for you quick response.
well, I'm still taking calc because I have to, it's for my chemistry degree. I'm actually doing great in calc 3, two exam with A-. Does majoring in chemistry make a difference vs. the biology by the way?

" if you want to get in at Wayne, start working on making yourself a recognized individual" do you have any suggestion on how to do that, beside volunteering and shadowing doctors?

it might be a stupit question, but how do you find out who is on WSUMS acceptance committee or whatever it is called?

 

[MD'05]

The "students" must be at Lampoon so I'll throw you a bone ...

http://www.med.wayne.edu/faculty_senate/StandingCommittees.htm

 

[oldjeeps]

thank you all for you quick response.
well, I'm still taking calc because I have to, it's for my chemistry degree. I'm actually doing great in calc 3, two exam with A-. Does majoring in chemistry make a difference vs. the biology by the way?

" if you want to get in at Wayne, start working on making yourself a recognized individual" do you have any suggestion on how to do that, beside volunteering and shadowing doctors?

it might be a stupit question, but how do you find out who is on WSUMS acceptance committee or whatever it is called?

I am not sure that they would tell you who in on the admissions committee, if you were to ask. However, I doubt that there is any danger in asking. Just keep in mind that there is probably some turnover on the committee - so current members might not be there in two years when you'll be applying.

Generally medical schools do not care what your undergrad degree is in, as long as you have one and have taken their pre-reqs.

You might try calling, or better yet visiting, the admissions office and explaining that you are a WSU student and are interested in WSUSOM, yada yada yada. And asking them if they have any suggestions on what might be a wise course of action for you to take at this time.

 

[I'msodesperate]

thanks a lot 😀

 

[Shangal]

I actually agree with MD05 on this one. If it was me with the grandma dying a couple of days before an exam I would've got the extension.
I don't think I can ever get used to having a death in my family, and I hope the school will cut me some slack and give me an extension instead of having to modify for one exam. And I bet I will have the option to get some leaves of absences in the case of a death in the family in the future when I am a resident. But at the same time I don't think that if you don't want the extension you don't love that family member who died. You just deal with it differently then I do I guess.

 

[artemis]

I just think we should be nicer to each other in the first place and respect each other's opinion and not get all hell-fire bent out of shape over people's comments. Everybody is different. ....this thread was supposed to be so us WSU students could communicate with each other.....peace, love, and all of that....

 

[katrinadams9]

Does anyone know when we vote on the favorite basic science prof award? I saw that Dr. DiCarlo won last year.

My vote is going to Dr. Ram. I just love his goofy neuro songs!

 

[ddmo]

Do you mean the Lamp Award? They already gave it posthumously to Dr. Hazlett at Lampoons.

 

[oldjeeps]

Do you mean the Lamp Award? They already gave it posthumously to Dr. Hazlett at Lampoons.

Anybody know how many people actually went to Lampoons?

Was lampoons taped? If it was, where do we get our hands on a copy of the tape?

 

[dancinjenn]

Hmm...I think that there was at least 200 people there. I am not sure if the whole thing was taped. I did hear a rumor that you could get ahold of at least the taped skits, but I'm not sure where from.

 

[fun8stuff]

You guys kinda of have my scared of Wayne's tests. I guess this might be good that I am prepared... It seems that these exams must be really hard? Are these exams extremely hard? Or is it that so many people didnt study enough (i.e. 6o people failing exams, etc)? Is it that the tests are all day tests given once a month, and cover so much material?

Are there people who come from undergrad who have done quite well (3.9+ gpa, 30+ mcat) and still struggle? what is the key to success with these exams?

i apologize if i sound abit neurotic and naive.... i have friends at some schools that seem to be happy and have free time, while it is different at others. i am not sure if it is the differences between schools or if it is just because i am only talking to a few people.

 

[AStudent]

I'd say that Wayne State has a larger range of students than most other medical schools in general. Not just in terms of quantity of students, but of broad test scores and GPAs, how that translates to difficulty of exams, etc. I will have to find out this fall.

But from the medical students I know that go/have gone there they all tell me that "it's not to hard to pass, but getting honors is really hard."

You guys kinda of have my scared of Wayne's tests. I guess this might be good that I am prepared... It seems that these exams must be really hard? Are these exams extremely hard? Or is it that so many people didnt study enough? Is it that the tests are all day tests given once a month, and cover so much material?

Are there people who come from undergrad who have done quite well (3.9+ gpa, 30+ mcat) and still struggle? what is the key to success with these exams?

i apologize if i sound neuronic and naive.... i have friends at some schools that seem to be happy and have free time, while it is different at others. i am not sure if it is the differences between schools or if it is just because i am only talking to a few people.

 

[sdnManJo]

I'm a high school senior and was recently awarded the Presidential Scholarship and Honors Program acceptance to attend Wayne State. I'm considering attending Wayne State or Michigan State for my undergraduate premed studies. I started a thread in the Pre Allo forum that has some more detail if you want to check that out. I'm looking for some advice on where to go this fall. Thanks!

 

[katrinadams9]

I'm a high school senior and was recently awarded the Presidential Scholarship and Honors Program acceptance to attend Wayne State. I'm considering attending Wayne State or Michigan State for my undergraduate premed studies. I started a thread in the Pre Allo forum that has some more detail if you want to check that out. I'm looking for some advice on where to go this fall. Thanks!

If you really need the scholarship, then I'd say go Wayne. It'll really help you not to have undergrad loan debt on top of what you'll accrue in med school (about 40,000 a year). I went to MSU, and have nothing but good things to say about the school. However, if I'd gotten a nice scholarship package to go to a different school in Michigan and get the same degree, I probably would've. It would be nice to not have to worry about that extra $24,000 I racked up in student loans as a Spartan.

Also, I believe that it doesn't hurt to be a Wayne undergrad when applying to med school here. If you want to go to MSU and then apply to med school at MSU, it'll be VERY hard to get in there. For some unknown reason, they discriminate against their own undergrads (an admissions committee interviewer at Wayne told me this during my interview).

If you don't really need to worry about student loans, i.e. mommy and daddy will pay for your schooling, then I'd say go to MSU. The campus is better and the community surrounding it is a great place to live! Go Green!!!

 

[dancinjenn]

You guys kinda of have my scared of Wayne's tests. I guess this might be good that I am prepared... It seems that these exams must be really hard? Are these exams extremely hard? Or is it that so many people didnt study enough (i.e. 6o people failing exams, etc)? Is it that the tests are all day tests given once a month, and cover so much material?

Those two tests you speak of are very tough tests. However, failing one test doesn't mean you are going to fail the course unless it is genetics or nutrition (these classes only have one test each). That being said, there were some tests where only a couple of people out of the whole class ended up beneath pass rate. It is sometimes hard to prepare for tests when you have a multitude of new professors and no one knows their testing style, or there is just such a sheer amount of information that you really don't know what to study for and just try to get in as much as possible. Most of the tests I have found to be fair, if tough. You just have to make sure to stay on top of the information and not cram the couple of days before the tests.

Are there people who come from undergrad who have done quite well (3.9+ gpa, 30+ mcat) and still struggle? what is the key to success with these exams?

I am sure that there are some people who have these stats and fail some tests/classes. The biochemistry even told us that one year they had a student who had a masters in biochem who failed the class. I also know some people who didn't have anywhere near those stats and are consistently pulling 80% and above on tests. The key to success is maintianing a steady rate of studying. Again, don't fall behind. If you need help you can go to the study lady, go to regular review sessions, get tutors, etc.

i apologize if i sound abit neurotic and naive.... i have friends at some schools that seem to be happy and have free time, while it is different at others. i am not sure if it is the differences between schools or if it is just because i am only talking to a few people.

I would say that there is plenty of free time for the majority of students. We have the largest number of student orgs anywhere in the country and people find time to participate in one or more of these groups, as well as have time to work out, and have a significant other. You just have to become a master at budgeting your time.

I know that this is kind of long, but I hope that it allays some of your fears. Anything else, just ask! 😀

 

[fun8stuff]

Those two tests you speak of are very tough tests. However, failing one test doesn't mean you are going to fail the course unless it is genetics or nutrition (these classes only have one test each). That being said, there were some tests where only a couple of people out of the whole class ended up beneath pass rate. It is sometimes hard to prepare for tests when you have a multitude of new professors and no one knows their testing style, or there is just such a sheer amount of information that you really don't know what to study for and just try to get in as much as possible. Most of the tests I have found to be fair, if tough. You just have to make sure to stay on top of the information and not cram the couple of days before the tests.



I am sure that there are some people who have these stats and fail some tests/classes. The biochemistry even told us that one year they had a student who had a masters in biochem who failed the class. I also know some people who didn't have anywhere near those stats and are consistently pulling 80% and above on tests. The key to success is maintianing a steady rate of studying. Again, don't fall behind. If you need help you can go to the study lady, go to regular review sessions, get tutors, etc.



I would say that there is plenty of free time for the majority of students. We have the largest number of student orgs anywhere in the country and people find time to participate in one or more of these groups, as well as have time to work out, and have a significant other. You just have to become a master at budgeting your time.

I know that this is kind of long, but I hope that it allays some of your fears. Anything else, just ask! 😀

thanks for your response.

 

[artemis]

I'm a high school senior and was recently awarded the Presidential Scholarship and Honors Program acceptance to attend Wayne State. I'm considering attending Wayne State or Michigan State for my undergraduate premed studies. I started a thread in the Pre Allo forum that has some more detail if you want to check that out. I'm looking for some advice on where to go this fall. Thanks!

I was in the same boat as a high school senior and I decided to go to Wayne State, because even though my parents would have paid for my college, I couldn't pass up a full scholarship. It helped them to save money and they are helping pay for my med school. I know I'm biased, but i feel like i got a great education at Wayne and starting medical school at a place i was already comfortable with was also good. Maybe the only downside of it was that i have always lived at home and have never gotten a chance to go "away" to school, but if that's not a big deal to you, then....
Good luck in whatever you decide to do 🙂

 

[ddmo]

About 1/3 Wayne grad. applicants get accepted. Per capita it ranks higher than UMich or MSU.

 

[fun8stuff]

So Wayne requires that their students buy a certain PDA and it around $600? Am I mistaken? Anyways, do you guys find it useful? Is the certain one required? $600 can buy a cheap laptop.

 

[fun8stuff]

I'd give that exam two thumbs up... two thumbs up Brooks' ass. I hate that chicken-peddlin' bastard!

On a separate note, I love Akins. I'm feeling quite fuzzy about Gatti, too.

What did you guys think?

lol... you know I think Brooks interviewed me... is his first name Samuel? Seemed like a nice guy during the interview.

 

[Flobber]

lol... you know I think Brooks interviewed me... is his first name Samuel? Seemed like a nice guy during the interview.

LOL, that's the one. I'm sure he is a nice guy, but his exam questions are a different story .

 

[AStudent]

Yeah, what the deuce....I got that letter today too. 😡 😡

So Wayne requires that their students buy a certain PDA and it around $600? Am I mistaken? Anyways, do you guys find it useful? Is the certain one required? $600 can buy a cheap laptop.

 

[sdnManJo]

I was in the same boat as a high school senior and I decided to go to Wayne State, because even though my parents would have paid for my college, I couldn't pass up a full scholarship. It helped them to save money and they are helping pay for my med school. I know I'm biased, but i feel like i got a great education at Wayne and starting medical school at a place i was already comfortable with was also good. Maybe the only downside of it was that i have always lived at home and have never gotten a chance to go "away" to school, but if that's not a big deal to you, then....
Good luck in whatever you decide to do 🙂

I'm probably going to live in the dorms my freshman year at least. The Presidential Scholarship also includes a $1,000 housing grant. I'm most likely going to be at Wayne State this fall. Thanks for all the help, everyone. I'll butt out of your allo thread now. 😀

 

[fun8stuff]

Yeah, what the deuce....I got that letter today too. 😡 😡

a letter? ha, i havent received anything yet... perhaps i should call home. Does the letter say that students will be required to have a specific PDA... i heard this as a rumor from a friend who heard it from an advisor....

 

[dancinjenn]

So Wayne requires that their students buy a certain PDA and it around $600? Am I mistaken? Anyways, do you guys find it useful? Is the certain one required? $600 can buy a cheap laptop.

Ok, here's the scoop. Yes, you are required to get a PDA, no, you are not required to get the one they recommend. You have to have the PDA to do evals and log in for required clinical med classes.

This is what I did. I got the spec sheet off the internet and went searching for similar products. I ended up getting the HP 4150. It has the wireless capability, is windows based, and has an expansion slot for extra memory. I bought it for $350 on Amazon.com.

The reason they want you to get the Toshiba is because that is the only kind of PDA the "office of PDA people" will support. However, if you are at least reasonably comfortable with electronics and can read a manual then you can get another brand for a lot less money. Also from the Toshiba web help pages, because the HP and Toshiba are both windows based the same instructions usually apply to both.

Take my advice, save your cash.

 

[oldjeeps]

Ok, here's the scoop. Yes, you are required to get a PDA, no, you are not required to get the one they recommend. You have to have the PDA to do evals and log in for required clinical med classes.

This is what I did. I got the spec sheet off the internet and went searching for similar products. I ended up getting the HP 4150. It has the wireless capability, is windows based, and has an expansion slot for extra memory. I bought it for $350 on Amazon.com.

The reason they want you to get the Toshiba is because that is the only kind of PDA the "office of PDA people" will support. However, if you are at least reasonably comfortable with electronics and can read a manual then you can get another brand for a lot less money. Also from the Toshiba web help pages, because the HP and Toshiba are both windows based the same instructions usually apply to both.

Take my advice, save your cash.

I'll second this; I was foolish enough to get the PDA that WSU suggested - a huge waste of money. Avoid making my mistake if at all possible - there are too many better deals out there for better PDAs.

As Jenn said, a PDA is necessary since you are not able to use a computer to do some of the required activities (evaluations and signing in to required classes and I have heard some rumors about having to use them in the clinic during third and fourth year).

 

[Soleil9]

I'll second this; I was foolish enough to get the PDA that WSU suggested - a huge waste of money. Avoid making my mistake if at all possible - there are too many better deals out there for better PDAs.

Actually, in that letter they sent, it just lists minimum required spec's, it doesn't say anything about a specific make or model. This could be because Toshiba is no longer producing PDAs for the American market. So, I'm guessing Dell or HP it is!

(I read way too many Tech blogs...)

 

[Shangal]

can someone tell me what happened in the MD lab thing for nutritient last friday?

 

[katrinadams9]

can someone tell me what happened in the MD lab thing for nutritient last friday?

Nothing. It was rescheduled, so it was last Monday afternoon. Basically, it was a crappy prof going over those conference Q's. Don't worry about it, because he said the answers would be given to us. Half the people who stayed for the sesh (less than 1/4 of our class) got up and left when he said that. Another couple left after listening to his crappy explanations for about 10 min. Sadly, I stayed the whole time, not wanting to be rude and walk right in front of him on my way out the door. It was the worst hour of my life.... if only I could time travel and leave Jaffar along with everyone else!

 

[artemis]

(I read way too many Tech blogs...)

I wish I had done that as well before I bought the damn worthless thing! 😳