Wayne State University part 01

[katrinadams9]

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I hope the studying's going well for all of you... just in case you've been in the dark about old exams like me, here's the hidden link to them: http://www.med.wayne.edu/elab/oldex.htm

Wish I'd known about them for the last 3 exams! They're pretty helpful...

 

[katrinadams9]

Has anyone noticed if the Clin Med scores are posted yet? I haven't been in to Scott Hall today... I usually avoid it like Yersinia Pestis right before an exam...

Sorry for the bad joke. I'm huge dork!

 

[Flobber]

Has anyone noticed if the Clin Med scores are posted yet? I haven't been in to Scott Hall today... I usually avoid it like Yersinia Pestis right before an exam...

Sorry for the bad joke. I'm huge dork!

I tend to avoid it more like an atypical pneumonia-causing pathogen...

HA! I'm way funnier and cooler than you.

 

[ddmo]

No, the scores aren't up yet.

 

[deowolf04]

Has anyone noticed if the Clin Med scores are posted yet? I haven't been in to Scott Hall today... I usually avoid it like Yersinia Pestis right before an exam...

Sorry for the bad joke. I'm huge dork!

We're all dorks. We wouldn't have made it this far if we weren't.

Get used to it. Accept it. Learn to love it. 😀

 

[katrinadams9]

We're all dorks. We wouldn't have made it this far if we weren't.

Get used to it. Accept it. Learn to love it. 😀

I accepted the fact that I was a dork a loooooong ass time ago. Probably back in high school marching band. Again as an engineer in undergrad. Now as a med student... I guess I'm a triple threat!

 

[katrinadams9]

I hate Dr. Lerner


That's all....

 

[Shangal]

yeah, I made stupid mistakes too. But to be honest I thought this one was better then our last exam.
hopefully everyone did well. By the way, thanks katrina for the stuff you help us with. I feel like I should do something in return.
I guess the next time I hack into a professor's computer and get their questions, I'll email them to you. I wonder if that will get me kicked out of med school

 

[oldjeeps]

I guess the next time I hack into a professor's computer and get their questions, I'll email them to you. I wonder if that will get me kicked out of med school

I am sure that you are being facetious, but I would be careful what you say. As touchy as the administration is they probably won’t see the humor in that comment.

I hate Dr. Lerner


That's all....

Agreed; I didn’t like his questions but they could have been worse (had a vague feeling that I had seen something like them before).

yeah, I made stupid mistakes too. But to be honest I thought this one was better then our last exam.
hopefully everyone did well.

I just hope that I didn't make too many stupid mistakes in my current sleep deprived state.
While I wish everyone well, I hope that y'all don't do so well that I end up in danger of not getting my "P" for this exam.
Hope that I can get enough points in tomorrow's exam that it will be a non-issue.

 

[Shangal]

I guess I won't be emailing you the answers then

 

[Shangal]

It feels good to be over with micro/immuno
I think this was my favorite exam ever, everything was straightforward, no tricky questions, just good old fashioned high school like questions.
I wish all med school was like this.
To be honest, I wish I knew how to interpret these test results before our last exam. I was the guy in lab who did nothing, and barely ever showed up. It was nice to actually do a couple of these test, like the coagulase, the oxidase, the blood testing, I felt for a moment like a lab technician and I was good in it. Except for the oxidase test, it took forever to turn blue.
I am just happy it's over, I am going to sleep now for 6 hrs to get almost two nights of non sleeping back.

 

[katrinadams9]

Hey guys... hope ya'll had a lovely weekend. I just tried to preread for tomorrow. Path doesn't look too bad (at least all the notes are formatted the same), but Pharm looks like it's going to suck ass! I only made it thru a few pages before giving up. I'm also confused as to which notes we'll be using tomorrow, the ones from our course pack or those from our mailboxes.

 

[oldjeeps]

Path doesn't look too bad (at least all the notes are formatted the same), but Pharm looks like it's going to suck ass!

Seeing how it looked like you were bailing after the first hour of Path; do you still feel this way?

Was it just me or was today just really painful all around? Pharm kept trying to put me to sleep and there wasn’t really much space in the notes to add anything (if you could keep track of where the lecturer was at) and then this afternoon Path wasn’t much better.

 

[JonD-08]

Does anyone know if grades have gone up yet?

 

[zubirix2k]

Does anyone know if grades have gone up yet?

Yeah grades went up this afternoon...but I didn't complete my eval so...i guess i got stars.

 

[oldjeeps]

Path doesn't look too bad

Any bets on how many people will actually show up to the 9AM path lecture on Monday?

 

[katrinadams9]

Seeing how it looked like you were bailing after the first hour of Path; do you still feel this way?

I wouldn't say the first guy's material was too bad.... but Dr. Weiner's stuff is horrible!!! And all he did was read straight from the notes. I can do that from home and not waste the gas to drive into school. Almost wish I hadn't come in at all today! I have a feeling I'm going to HATE pathbio....


On another note: Thanks to all who bought candygrams! You're going to bring a smile to a kids face when he/she gets to carve a pumpkin on the 17th or go to the Detroit zoo on Oct. 29th. Both of these things some of the kids have probably never done before... If you haven't already bought a candygram, they're only $1 and they're on sale in the cafe Mon. and Tues. next week. Enough of my shameless advertising for Project H....

 

[deowolf04]

Any bets on how many people will actually show up to the 9AM path lecture on Monday?

My guess is about 30. And since your OCD streak will undoubtedly drag you in there, you can verify if I'm right or not, since I certainly won't be there.

 

[pionpasse]

Hey guys... I have been lurking here for a while, often very entertained by the stuff you guys write 🙂

I was one of the 20 or so who actually stayed for the last part of Dr. Weiner's lecture, mainly cause I had showed up late and wasn't ready to walk back to my apartment yet... it would have been such a waste. Anyway the second half was useful, let me tell you why-

1) the chart that looks completely innocuous and pointless on page 9, he said something like, if he were to give advice for the exam, he would learn these particular mediators and something about each one of them

2) then for lymphocytes, eosinophils, pmns, monocytes, and blast cells, he went thru a picture of each one in a blood smear, in the tissue stained with H & E, and in an EM... I am about 90% sure you will have to recognize one or two of those pictures on the exam...

3) just for completeless, then he showed a kuppfer cell enggulfing some carbon and then some epitheloid and giant cell pictures, but he didnt emphasize these like the first two

tom

 

[oldjeeps]

Anyone else feeling really overwhelmed during Pathbio lab?
Or is it just my lab instructor that is giving me that feeling? Do I stick it out or jump ship to a different lab?

 

[katrinadams9]

Anyone else feeling really overwhelmed during Pathbio lab?
Or is it just my lab instructor that is giving me that feeling? Do I stick it out or jump ship to a different lab?

My lab ladies were pretty unhelpful. I skipped out and went to 2135 because I heard he was good. He really is. Even so, the material is still dry and boring and I still fell overwhelmed.

I feel like I'm getting symptoms of depression and anxiety disorder.... 😕

 

[deowolf04]

My lab ladies were pretty unhelpful. I skipped out and went to 2135 because I heard he was good. He really is. Even so, the material is still dry and boring and I still fell overwhelmed.

I feel like I'm getting symptoms of depression and anxiety disorder.... 😕

Aw...come on. OCD is so much more fun. 😀

 

[oldjeeps]

My lab ladies were pretty unhelpful. I skipped out and went to 2135 because I heard he was good. He really is. Even so, the material is still dry and boring and I still fell overwhelmed.

I feel like I'm getting symptoms of depression and anxiety disorder....

Aw...come on. OCD is so much more fun. 😀

How about all of the above with a little bit of type 2 bipolar thrown in for the fun of it?

 

[Shangal]

I wonder if 3 years from now I will miss 1st and 2nd year. I mean all my life I was looking forward to get in. And now that I am in I am wondering what the hell I was thinking. I mean it's not enough to be in med school but now I have to be top 20th percentile in my class if I want my choice of residency. So now I am obsessed about my Z-score and then I have to ace my boards which I didn't even start studying for yet. I didn't think it was going to be this hard. My parents lied!
Well I just wanted to say that to somebody and go back to study pathobio and maybe some psychiatry when I am too tired, man my life sucks.

 

[oldjeeps]

I wonder if 3 years from now I will miss 1st and 2nd year.

Three years from now…
hmm…
that would put us somewhere in our internship. Considering what I have heard about how interns are treated, we probably will be missing Scott Hall at least a little. But not enough that we’ll notice since #1 we’ll be getting paid (rather than paying to be abused), #2 we won't have enough time to think about it, and #3 many of us will have escaped from Detroit (and will probably be somewhere that we like better).

I didn't think it was going to be this hard. My parents lied!

How would they know what you were getting yourself into?

 

[Shangal]

Most of my family are physicians, my uncles, my dad, my cousins, my aunt is a dentist. It's an unwritten rule in my family, if you want to be part of the family you have to be either be a doctor or a lawyer. You just have to!
I hated that stress growing up, I guess I should've took the other option my parents gave me growing up, a dog catcher. Now that has to be fun.

 

[deowolf04]

I didn't think it was going to be this hard. My parents lied!

Most of my family are physicians, my uncles, my dad, my cousins, my aunt is a dentist. It's an unwritten rule in my family, if you want to be part of the family you have to be either be a doctor or a lawyer. You just have to!

No, you do not “just have to” be a doctor to be part of a family of doctors. Granted, no one in my family is part of the medical community, but your family probably would have been just as happy if you went into something like business, engineering, research, or any other job that requires a good education and that you would enjoy. It seems like the only reason you are here is because your family “forced” you to. If you continue this way, you’re going to end up working a job that you really didn’t want and will be very unhappy with your life.

Let me put this another way. What you did was take the spot of another qualified student that really wanted to be here but was not accepted; congratulations. If you think your family did not adequately warn you about what was coming, then it was either a failure on their part (which I doubt) or you just didn’t listen/observe well enough.

 

[Shangal]

I was joking with those comments. I guess you couldn't get that because I am typing this and and you don't know my personality, which sucks by the way. I know how hard it was for my dad and other family members since I was a kid. Dude, if I hear one more time how my dad used to sleep in the library because he'd study late everyday I will ..........
But I do agree that I am probably in med school for the wrong reasons. I know my family will accept me, but thinking back at comments my parents used to make when I was a kid just makes me laugh sometimes. I remember my parents telling me ever since I was an elementary school how they expected me to get into med school, and I felt their dissapointment when I did bad in high school.
I guess we all have different life experiences, and you won't fully understand me and I won't you. But to say I took some other persons spot who really wanted to get in to med school. What the hell does that mean? If I didn't want to be here I wouldn't have applied in the first place. And trust me, most people in our class are in medicine for the money or family pressure. If not they would've all wanted to get in primary care, where people make the most difference in my opinion, or better yet nursing.

 

[JonD-08]

These mass emails crack me up. I love the drama. Reminds me of protesters on the Diag at Michigan thinking they can make a difference.

 

[Shangal]

I kind of felt bad for that evans guy. Does he really think that a class president has any power at all. All they can do is throw parties and raise money, it's not like he has the power to lower tuition or give him honors on his transcript to make him more competitive for residencies.
I agree though, it is kind of entertaining. And now that you bring up the diag, man I miss michigan. I might go there now and study in the law library, anyone want a ride?

 

[dancinjenn]

I kind of felt bad for that evans guy. Does he really think that a class president has any power at all. All they can do is throw parties and raise money, it's not like he has the power to lower tuition or give him honors on his transcript to make him more competitive for residencies.
I agree though, it is kind of entertaining. And now that you bring up the diag, man I miss michigan. I might go there now and study in the law library, anyone want a ride?

Evans has had it in for who-ever holds the president seat ever since he lost out on it last year. Does anyone remember how he demanded a recount of the ballots? I think that it sucks about the generator placement though...I mean it's not like we have the most beautiful campus...and they are just creating more expanses of brick and concrete.

 

[Evil X]

Three years from now…
hmm…
that would put us somewhere in our internship. Considering what I have heard about how interns are treated, we probably will be missing Scott Hall at least a little. But not enough that we’ll notice since #1 we’ll be getting paid (rather than paying to be abused), #2 we won't have enough time to think about it, and #3 many of us will have escaped from Detroit (and will probably be somewhere that we like better).

What do you mean by this?

 

[oldjeeps]

I was joking with those comments. I guess you couldn't get that because I am typing this and and you don't know my personality, which sucks by the way. I know how hard it was for my dad and other family members since I was a kid. Dude, if I hear one more time how my dad used to sleep in the library because he'd study late everyday I will ..........
But I do agree that I am probably in med school for the wrong reasons. I know my family will accept me, but thinking back at comments my parents used to make when I was a kid just makes me laugh sometimes. I remember my parents telling me ever since I was an elementary school how they expected me to get into med school, and I felt their dissapointment when I did bad in high school.
I guess we all have different life experiences, and you won't fully understand me and I won't you. But to say I took some other persons spot who really wanted to get in to med school. What the hell does that mean? If I didn't want to be here I wouldn't have applied in the first place. And trust me, most people in our class are in medicine for the money or family pressure. If not they would've all wanted to get in primary care, where people make the most difference in my opinion, or better yet nursing.

Seeing how it is difficult to tell when someone is joking in their writing, might I suggest using the emoticons (a.k.a. smilies).

Is it just me or are you a bit conflicted about why you are here and if you really want to be here? First you say that you are probably in medical school for the wrong reasons and then go on to assert that you are here because you want to be; well which is it?

You are correct in that I don’t know you (I think), but I get the feeling that you are one of the many people in medicine (including some residents that I know) that would have been better served by spending some time out in the real world between undergrad and med school to figure out what your life-goals (not your family’s goals for you) really are. I hope that you do not end up as miserable as some of those residents are.

Also, well you are probably correct about the motivating factor for some of the people in our class, I think that you go a little far saying that most are in medicine for “the money or family pressure”. I know some folks that are planning on going into primary care and are still big time gunners. Why, because they want to be the best doctor that they can for their future patients. There are others of us that are just trying to work hard so as not to limit our future residency options (similar to how we all worked hard during undergrad to increase our chances at getting into that “good” med school – whichever one that was for you).

 

[oldjeeps]

Three years from now…
hmm…
that would put us somewhere in our internship. Considering what I have heard about how interns are treated, we probably will be missing Scott Hall at least a little. But not enough that we’ll notice since #1 we’ll be getting paid (rather than paying to be abused), #2 we won't have enough time to think about it, and #3 many of us will have escaped from Detroit (and will probably be somewhere that we like better).

What do you mean by this?

What I mean by that?
Well, you can start with what is in parenthesis after point 3 in my original post.
Or if that doesn’t do it for you try this; those of us that are not a fan of being in the big city – I know that there are other folks out there that are more comfortable in less crowded (read as rural) areas – will probably find a way to do our residencies in less populated areas.

The simple fact of the matter is that while many WSU-SOM students will end up doing their residency in the greater Detroit area there are some of us who wish to escape back to our roots in areas where “green space” isn’t defined as vacant lots(usually overgrown), golf courses, and the occasional (also frequently overgrown) park.

 

[katrinadams9]

What I mean by that?
Well, you can start with what is in parenthesis after point 3 in my original post.
Or if that doesn’t do it for you try this; those of us that are not a fan of being in the big city – I know that there are other folks out there that are more comfortable in less crowded (read as rural) areas – will probably find a way to do our residencies in less populated areas.

The simple fact of the matter is that while many WSU-SOM students will end up doing their residency in the greater Detroit area there are some of us who wish to escape back to our roots in areas where “green space” isn’t defined as vacant lots(usually overgrown), golf courses, and the occasional (also frequently overgrown) park.

Or there are people like me who just want to get the hell outta Michigan altogether. I gotta get somewhere that doesn't give me Seasonal Mood Disorder for 7 months a year.... and while I love to have the four seasons like we have here, I'd much rather be somewhere that doesn't have a negative wind chill factor! So, basically when time to apply for residency comes, I'm going to be broke flying to all the warmer places (i.e. Tennessee, Virginia, Texas) for interviews.

 

[fun8stuff]

Seeing how it is difficult to tell when someone is joking in their writing, might I suggest using the emoticons (a.k.a. smilies).

Is it just me or are you a bit conflicted about why you are here and if you really want to be here? First you say that you are probably in medical school for the wrong reasons and then go on to assert that you are here because you want to be; well which is it?

You are correct in that I don’t know you (I think), but I get the feeling that you are one of the many people in medicine (including some residents that I know) that would have been better served by spending some time out in the real world between undergrad and med school to figure out what your life-goals (not your family’s goals for you) really are. I hope that you do not end up as miserable as some of those residents are.

Also, well you are probably correct about the motivating factor for some of the people in our class, I think that you go a little far saying that most are in medicine for “the money or family pressure”. I know some folks that are planning on going into primary care and are still big time gunners. Why, because they want to be the best doctor that they can for their future patients. There are others of us that are just trying to work hard so as not to limit our future residency options (similar to how we all worked hard during undergrad to increase our chances at getting into that “good” med school – whichever one that was for you).

What's the point of judging other people's motivations? What does it matter if most of the class is here for whatever reason. It really isn't going to affect you, is it? I don't see how we can determine what is a right motivation and what is a wrong motivation. What's right for you, may be wrong for someone else... and vice versa... 😕 no point in arguing... 🙂

 

[Shangal]

I guess there is no surprise that I am with fun8stuff on this one.
When I said I wanted to be here, I meant it was because of family pressure. And in my opinion, not yours, that is a valid reason. Again, I guess this is because of differences in unbringings, but when you grow up all your life thinking that you are getting into something, it's hard to change your mind half way through and look for an alternative career. I mean I love cars, so I guess being a mechanic would've been the ideal career choice for me, but why the hell would I do that when I lost 4 years of my life studying undergrad, wasting my time in the library when every mechanic out there was probably partying. I don't know why, by I am not a believer of cut your losses short and start something new. I guess I am more of a conformer in that aspect.
Anyways, I also don't hate medicine. there are somethings I like in it, like neuroanatomy and now patho, but there are others things I hate, like pharm and anatomy, but I never got that calling some people claim they have for med. I never saw the light that directed me to medicine and can't claim that I think I am making the world a better place by getting myself into medical school. If I wanted to make a different I would've joined the UN. But that doesn't mean I regret getting into med school. I just want it to be over with. At least this year and the boards, hopefully it will get better next year.

 

[Evil X]

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[Thrice]

I guess there is no surprise that I am with fun8stuff on this one.
When I said I wanted to be here, I meant it was because of family pressure. And in my opinion, not yours, that is a valid reason. Again, I guess this is because of differences in unbringings, but when you grow up all your life thinking that you are getting into something, it's hard to change your mind half way through and look for an alternative career. I mean I love cars, so I guess being a mechanic would've been the ideal career choice for me, but why the hell would I do that when I lost 4 years of my life studying undergrad, wasting my time in the library when every mechanic out there was probably partying. I don't know why, by I am not a believer of cut your losses short and start something new. I guess I am more of a conformer in that aspect.
Anyways, I also don't hate medicine. there are somethings I like in it, like neuroanatomy and now patho, but there are others things I hate, like pharm and anatomy, but I never got that calling some people claim they have for med. I never saw the light that directed me to medicine and can't claim that I think I am making the world a better place by getting myself into medical school. If I wanted to make a different I would've joined the UN. But that doesn't mean I regret getting into med school. I just want it to be over with. At least this year and the boards, hopefully it will get better next year.

To me, it doesn't sound like you hate medicine. It sounds like you hate school. Theres a support group for that. Its called EVERYONE, and it meets at the BAR.

I'm drunk so ingnore this post.

 

[oldjeeps]

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[fun8stuff]

😕

it said something else earlier, but he edited it to say nothing (instead of deleting it). 😕

 

[pschmom1]

Ok guys a little off of the subject, but since you're at my future med school, who better to ask than ya'll. Ok about gross anatomy, how did ya do it? I thought I would be ok w/ the cadaver thing, but I just disected an earthworm, yes only an earthworm, and It grossed me out. I think it was mostly the smell and the actual incision that grossed me out. But the thing is, I don't seem to mind operations on TV and I beg the county medical examiner to let me observe a live autopsy, but when I saw an autopsy on HBO and disected that worm, I freaked. I am very smell sensitive and I know this is going to be a problem. How do you prepare youself for the disection of a once living human being? I mean really? Do most people freak out? I didn't think I would be so affected w/ the TV autopsy and earthworm disection and after watching the autopsy a few times and a few min into the disection I was much more at ease, but still, how the heck do you prepare for the cadaver or even stand the smell? Did anyone freak out??? If there was no smell I think it might be easier and I know after a few days working on it it will be easier, but I'm a little concerned about the initial mental and physical responce I may have. Any advise on this subject would be helpful, and no I"m not looking for the "suck it up" crap. I'm serious. Thanks.

 

[Shangal]

Interesting. So you were disecting an earth worm again why?
From my experience so far, med school is nothing like it seems on t.v., anatomy is boring, especially the disecting part. To be honest I thought the actual exam was more interesting then disecting since you get to see sometimes for the first times things you were looking for in your cadaver forever but wouldn't find for some reason.
I guess what I am trying to say, don't worry about freaking out in anatomy lab. The only time you it will hit you that they were human is when you take a look at their faces for the first time. But that will be only for a week and after that you will have disecting most of his/her skin off.
Don't worry, its not that bad. Just be thankful that these people donated their bodies for us to disect and respect their bodies as much as possible and I guess then you won't feel guilty about disecting their bodies.

 

[CeLo]

I think they will give you a respirator if you want one. I think I remember someone wearing one. The smell can get to you at first, but then you'll be so busy trying to find stuff and learn that you won't even realize what you're doing anymore.

 

[fun8stuff]

I think they will give you a respirator if you want one. I think I remember someone wearing one. The smell can get to you at first, but then you'll be so busy trying to find stuff and learn that you won't even realize what you're doing anymore.

there are something like 2 people in class of 2009 that wear respirators (gas masks). dissecting a cadaver is different than an autopsy. they look very different. anyways, an earth worm grossed you out? i remember it was kind of sick in general bio when we had to do this- but only because it was a huge worm and reminded me of a horror movie that i had seen recently. didn't you ever play with worms when you were a kid?! lol...

But, most people get used to the smell and everything right away. remember, not everyone has to dissect. more than likely, you will have someone at your table that will be willing to do this for you, as it is very time consuming and there is really only room at the table for 1-2 people to dissect at a time per side (3 people per side). some people say they have to dissect to learn the material, but i have probably only done ~33% of dissecting and have had no problems with the practicals. the key is to use the lab time as study time.

 

[Evil X]

there are something like 2 people in class of 2009 that wear respirators (gas masks). dissecting a cadaver is different than an autopsy. they look very different. anyways, an earth worm grossed you out? i remember it was kind of sick in general bio when we had to do this- but only because it was a huge worm and reminded me of a horror movie that i had seen recently. didn't you ever play with worms when you were a kid?! lol...

But, most people get used to the smell and everything right away. remember, not everyone has to dissect. more than likely, you will have someone at your table that will be willing to do this for you, as it is very time consuming and there is really only room at the table for 1-2 people to dissect at a time per side (3 people per side). some people say they have to dissect to learn the material, but i have probably only done ~33% of dissecting and have had no problems with the practicals. the key is to use the lab time as study time.

Oh come on. If you think the anatomy lab smells, wait till surgery and abscess I and D or vaginal infections.

 

[fun8stuff]

Oh come on. If you think the anatomy lab smells, wait till surgery and abscess I and D or vaginal infections.

my thoughts exactly! heck, i think the boys locker roomed in high school smelled way worse than the anatomy lab!

 

[artemis]

Evans has had it in for who-ever holds the president seat ever since he lost out on it last year. Does anyone remember how he demanded a recount of the ballots? I think that it sucks about the generator placement though...I mean it's not like we have the most beautiful campus...and they are just creating more expanses of brick and concrete.

Thank you for saying it! It is so obvious that he has been waiting for just such a moment so he can "show" us why he should have been elected instead. I wish that people in our class would quit spending so much time on all the drama and concentrate on getting through medical school without going crazy...... 🙄

 

[fun8stuff]

Thank you for saying it! It is so obvious that he has been waiting for just such a moment so he can "show" us why he should have been elected instead. I wish that people in our class would quit spending so much time on all the drama and concentrate on getting through medical school without going crazy...... 🙄

I thought it was common knowledge that student body presidents, VPs, etc never really accomplish anything and the title is pretty much just something to put on a resume. Keeps the students happy because they think they have a voice.. but have you ever been to one of the meetings? 😴

 

[dancinjenn]

Thank you for saying it! It is so obvious that he has been waiting for just such a moment so he can "show" us why he should have been elected instead. I wish that people in our class would quit spending so much time on all the drama and concentrate on getting through medical school without going crazy...... 🙄

Exactly!!! I don't have time for it, so I ignore it...or more usually make sarcastic cracks about it. I'm to involved in trying to get through med school than to spend time on who's sleeping with who...or would like to...or who got drunk and did what to someone else. I graduated from high school a decade ago, I would rather not revisit it. Ever.