What are your thoughts on smoking?

[Doctor Octopus]

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How about a president who put a cigar in some chick's c**ch?

Unless it's a Cuban it's not illegal.

 

[pd4emergence]

You'd smoke too if you were all holed-up in some Hanoi hell being tortured as a prisoner of war and developing PTSD. 🙄

What's Obama's excuse? Bad childhood? Do we want a current smoker in the White House? Might make those drapes in the Lincoln bedroom smell kinda stale and musty.

-copro

From what I hear they are just getting that same smell out from the Clintons.

 

[fakin' the funk]

Unless it's a Cuban it's not illegal.

The chick or the cigar?

 

[pgg]

Do you really think that people can be captured and tortured for 5 years and then go on with their lives without any psychological problems??

Yes. Some people are more resilient than others, and awful experiences affect them differently.

Between internship and residency, the Navy put me to work as one of two physicians for a Marine Corps infantry battalion. I went to Afghanistan and then Iraq, and participated (tangentially, in the rear with the gear) as my Marines engaged in combat operations in a very ugly part of Anbar province in the pre-surge days. 8 dead 68 wounded and yes a number of those who survived had significant mental health issues. Others had more minor problems (eg, hypervigilence while driving at home after 6 months of focused scanning for IEDs). The mental health evaluation and surveillance programs in use are far from perfect, but it was clear that many, if not most, just didn't have any problems at all once they got home.

So yes, I can readily believe that someone could be imprisoned, tortured, finally released, and ultimately "get over it" for lack of a better phrase.

In the absence of a single bit of evidence that McCain has EVER had ANY functionally limiting mental scars from his incarceration, I have to assume that he's one of the (majority) of people who can live through awful events, compartmentalize them, and move on. I worry not one bit about McCain having PTSD. I'm sure he has bad memories of war and prison and torture. Bad memories alone do not constitute PTSD. In any case, it's not a bad thing for the Commander in Chief to have memories like that when deciding if this generation's Marines need to go kill people and break things on behalf of the rest of us.

One upside to Iraq and Afghanistan is that 10, 20, 30 years from now we'll have a lot of people serving in the federal government who've actually witnessed a real war firsthand. Not like the current crop who largely thought that the 1991 military technology demonstration fair was a war.

seriously. i'm starting to think cop is arguing just for the sake of arguing nowadays.

I think the election's putting a strain on him. 🙂 Who'd have guessed that after the Rove era of campaign mastery, the Republican party would assemble this ... 3 ring circus of futility?

Seriously, McCain's pulling out of Michigan so he can defend the likes of Nevada and North Carolina? I thought 2MARDIV owned North Carolina. Even Virginia's looking blue. How did this happen? But at least Alaska's safely red. 🙄

It's enough to give a politically minded redstater PTSD.

You'd smoke too if you were all holed-up in some Hanoi hell being tortured as a prisoner of war and developing PTSD. 🙄

What's Obama's excuse? Bad childhood? Do we want a current smoker in the White House? Might make those drapes in the Lincoln bedroom smell kinda stale and musty.

It's OK cop, when he wins, the forum will watch you for signs of PTSD. 😉

We're here for you.

In the meantime, before the rest of the fuses blow, give us some thoughts on how we can minimize the economic damage of the impending democratic presidency/Senate/House trifecta. Once you accept what's going to happen, you can take the first steps to dealing with it, right?

 

[Jalopycat]

Ummm... 47-year-old man of African American decent with all the co-requisite risk factors associated... at increased risk for hypertension, stroke, CAD, MI because of a current habit.

Yes, it's an issue.

-copro

But don't worry. Obama's "free" universal health care system will take care of him, so why should he bother to take personal responsibility for his lifestyle? 🙄

 

[climbingdocs]

is this for real? Focusing on Obama's smoking??? HAHAHA, well I guess he is not scandalous enough so smoking will have to do. BTW, have you guys seen this clip of Sara Palin making an a.$.s out of herself?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg
imagine what will happen if she ever becomes president (if McCain kicks the bucket) every time I watch this clip I laugh.👎

 

[MacBook]

😀
Good question DFK!

nice..

 

[isoman2000]

Now class smoking is bad M'kay?

 

[Planktonmd]

nice..

Hey, is that you in the Youtube clip?

 

[militarymd]

smoked for 10 years.....but only after I finish my 5 mile run for the day....

quit after my first kid was born.

 

[militarymd]

thank u for your service.

Yes. Some people are more resilient than others, and awful experiences affect them differently.

Between internship and residency, the Navy put me to work as one of two physicians for a Marine Corps infantry battalion. I went to Afghanistan and then Iraq, and participated (tangentially, in the rear with the gear) as my Marines engaged in combat operations in a very ugly part of Anbar province in the pre-surge days. 8 dead 68 wounded and yes a number of those who survived had significant mental health issues. Others had more minor problems (eg, hypervigilence while driving at home after 6 months of focused scanning for IEDs). The mental health evaluation and surveillance programs in use are far from perfect, but it was clear that many, if not most, just didn't have any problems at all once they got home.

So yes, I can readily believe that someone could be imprisoned, tortured, finally released, and ultimately "get over it" for lack of a better phrase.

In the absence of a single bit of evidence that McCain has EVER had ANY functionally limiting mental scars from his incarceration, I have to assume that he's one of the (majority) of people who can live through awful events, compartmentalize them, and move on. I worry not one bit about McCain having PTSD. I'm sure he has bad memories of war and prison and torture. Bad memories alone do not constitute PTSD. In any case, it's not a bad thing for the Commander in Chief to have memories like that when deciding if this generation's Marines need to go kill people and break things on behalf of the rest of us.

One upside to Iraq and Afghanistan is that 10, 20, 30 years from now we'll have a lot of people serving in the federal government who've actually witnessed a real war firsthand. Not like the current crop who largely thought that the 1991 military technology demonstration fair was a war.



I think the election's putting a strain on him. 🙂 Who'd have guessed that after the Rove era of campaign mastery, the Republican party would assemble this ... 3 ring circus of futility?

Seriously, McCain's pulling out of Michigan so he can defend the likes of Nevada and North Carolina? I thought 2MARDIV owned North Carolina. Even Virginia's looking blue. How did this happen? But at least Alaska's safely red. 🙄

It's enough to give a politically minded redstater PTSD.



It's OK cop, when he wins, the forum will watch you for signs of PTSD. 😉

We're here for you.

In the meantime, before the rest of the fuses blow, give us some thoughts on how we can minimize the economic damage of the impending democratic presidency/Senate/House trifecta. Once you accept what's going to happen, you can take the first steps to dealing with it, right?

 

[coprolalia]

It's OK cop, when he wins, the forum will watch you for signs of PTSD. 😉

It should be quite clear that I already have a full-blown, residency-induced case.

-copro

 

[pgg]

It should be quite clear that I already have a full-blown, residency-induced case.

Touche.