What counts as science for your science GPA?

[Miss Alyssa]

Is it strickly biology, chemisty, physics and math that count? what about courses in say pharmacology or physiology?

See I'm about to specialize in neuroscience and I will end up graduating with a Hon.B.Sc... alot of the neuroscience credtis come from psychology courses. Psychology is considered a science course at my univeristy (although I know it isn't and many others) I was wondering whether or not credits in psych and neurosci will count towards my science GPA when it comes time to apply to med schools

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[virilep]

Is it strickly biology, chemisty, physics and math that count? what about courses in say pharmacology or physiology?

See I'm about to specialize in neuroscience and I will end up graduating with a Hon.B.Sc... alot of the neuroscience credtis come from psychology courses. Psychology is considered a science course at my univeristy (although I know it isn't and many others) I was wondering whether or not credits in psych and neurosci will count towards my science GPA when it comes time to apply to med schools

you can count those. I counted stuff like my biomedical engineering class of thermodynamics as my chemistry class. physiology, and differential equations in math. talk to your pre-med advisor about each of your classes.

 

[lorelei]

You can find the 2005 instructions here: http://www.aamc.org/students/amcas/2005instructionbook.pdf

You have to classify the content of each course according to the following guidelines. If it can fit under Bio, Chem, Physics, or Math, it's science. So I'd say you can count both physiology and neuroscience under Bio, but not pharmacology, because that goes under Health Sciences.



Behavioral & Social Sciences (BESS)
Anthropology

Economics

Family Studies

Psychology

Sociology



Biology (BIOL) - BCPM
Anatomy

Biology

Biophysics

Biotechnology

Botany

Cell Biology

Ecology

Entomology

Genetics

Histology

Immunology

Microbiology

Molecular Biology

Neuroscience

Physiology



Business (BUSI)

Accounting

Business

Finance

Human Resource Studies

Management

Organizational Studies

Marketing



Chemistry (CHEM) - BCPM
Biochemistry

Chemistry

Physical Chemistry

Thermodynamics



Communications (COMM)
Journalism

Media Production & Studies

TV, Video, & Audio



Computer Science/Technology (COMP)
Computer Science

Computer Engineering

Information Systems

Telecommunications



Education (EDUC)
Counseling & Personnel Services

Curriculum & Instruction

Educational Policy

Educational Administration

Health Education

Human Development

Physical Education

Special Education



Engineering (ENGI)
Aerospace Engineering

Biomedical Engineering

Chemical Engineering

Civil Engineering

Electrical Engineering

Engineering

Environmental Engineering

Mechanical Engineering

Nuclear Engineering



English Language & Literature (ENGL)
English Composition & Rhetoric

English Creative Writing

English Language & Literature



Fine Arts (ARTS)
Art

Art History

Dance

Fine Arts

Music

Photography

Theatre



Health Sciences (HEAL)
Allied Health

Chiropractic

Dentistry

Hearing & Speech Sciences

Hospital Administration

Kinesiology

Medical Technology

Medicine

Nursing

Nutrition & Food Sciences

Occupational Therapy

Optometry

Osteopathy

Physical Therapy

Physician Assistant

Public Health

Pharmacology & Pharmacy

Sports Medicine

Veterinary Medicine



History (HIST)
History



Foreign Languages/Linguistics/Lit. (FLAN)
American Sign Language

Comparative Literature

Linguistics

Foreign Language(s) & Literature



Government/Political Sci/Law (GOVT)
Criminology & Criminal Justice

Government

International Relations & Studies

Law/Legal Studies

Political Science

Public Affairs & Policy

Urban Policy & Planning



Math (MATH) - BCPM
Applied Mathematics

Mathematics

Statistics



Natural/Physical Sciences (NPSC)
Agriculture

Animal and Avian Sciences

Forestry

Geography

Geology

Horticulture

Landscape Architecture

Meteorology

Natural Resources

Oceanography

Environmental Science & Policy



Other (OTHR)
All courses which do not fit appropriately into another category, including:

Architecture

Interdisciplinary courses

Library Science

Military Science



Philosophy/Religion (PHIL)
Ethics

Logic

Philosophy

Religion

Theology



Physics (PHYS) - BCPM
Astronomy

Physics



Special Studies (SSTU)
Afro-American Studies

American Studies

Gender Studies

 

[Doc Daneeka]

Is it possible then that my Evolutionary and Behavior Psychology class could count as a science? My science GPA is pretty dismal (3.1), and I can use all the help I can get.

 

[Scarletbegonias]

no- psychology classes do not count as science.

 

[Miss Alyssa]

FONT=Book Antiqua]so you can get a B.Sc by doing psychology, but it wont count towards your science GPA for med school then?.

 

[Scarletbegonias]

yep.

 

[antissa]

How about zoology? Would that be classified like botany/ecology (which is included) or animal sciences (which isn't?)

 

[lorelei]

How about zoology? Would that be classified like botany/ecology (which is included) or animal sciences (which isn't?)

As long as it has a similar amount of biology/science content as botany or ecology, I'd put it under biology. I can imagine a zoology class that wouldn't count, but it would be like taking care of animals or something. If you're learning about animal physiology and so forth, I would call that bio.

 

[Scarletbegonias]

zoology definately goes towards science (bcmp) gpa.

 

[Miss Alyssa]

Antissa, i was just reading your md profile thing and it says you're from U of T... what posts did you take? (specialisits... majors.....) and how come you only applied to 3 schools? and how hard is it to get into U of T's medschool?
and wait, you're only 19?

 

[Blue Scrub]

Yeah Psych classes def dont count towards BCPM GPA....but Zoology might count as a biology course, so that might count

 

[sunnyjohn]

http://www.aamc.org/students/amcas/...ructionbook.pdf

AMCAS Course Classification



Behavioral & Social Sciences (BESS)
*Anthropology
*Economics
*Family Studies
*Psychology
*Sociology



Biology (BIOL) - BCPM
*Anatomy
*Biology
*Biophysics
*Biotechnology
*Botany
*Cell Biology
*Ecology
*Entomology
*Genetics
*Histology
*Immunology
*Microbiology
*Molecular Biology
*Neuroscience
*Physiology



Business (BUSI)
*Accounting
*Business
*Finance
*Human Resource Studies
*Management
*Organizational Studies
*Marketing



Chemistry (CHEM) - BCPM
*Biochemistry
*Chemistry
*Physical Chemistry
*Thermodynamics



Communications (COMM)
*Journalism
*Media Production & Studies
*TV, Video, & Audio



Computer Science/Technology (COMP)
*Computer Science
*Computer Engineering
*Information Systems
*Telecommunications



Education (EDUC)
*Counseling & Personnel Services
*Curriculum & Instruction
*Educational Policy
*Educational Administration
*Health Education
*Human Development
*Physical Education
*Special Education



Engineering (ENGI)
*Aerospace Engineering
*Biomedical Engineering
*Chemical Engineering
*Civil Engineering
*Electrical Engineering
*Engineering
*Environmental Engineering
*Mechanical Engineering
*Nuclear Engineering



English Language & Literature (ENGL)
*English Composition & Rhetoric
*English Creative Writing
*English Language & Literature

Fine Arts (ARTS)
*Art
*Art History
*Dance
*Fine Arts
*Music
*Photography
*Theatre

Health Sciences (HEAL)
*Allied Health
*Chiropractic
*Dentistry
*Hearing & Speech Sciences
*Hospital Administration
*Kinesiology
*Medical Technology
*Medicine
*Nursing
*Nutrition & Food Sciences
*Occupational Therapy
*Optometry
*Osteopathy
*Physical Therapy
*Physician Assistant
*Public Health
*Pharmacology & Pharmacy
*Sports Medicine
*Veterinary Medicine

History (HIST)
*History

Foreign Languages/Linguistics/Lit. (FLAN)
*American Sign Language
*Comparative Literature
*Linguistics
*Foreign Language(s) & Literature

Government/Political Sci/Law (GOVT)
*Criminology & Criminal Justice
*Government
*International Relations & Studies
*Law/Legal Studies
*Political Science
*Public Affairs & Policy
*Urban Policy & Planning



Math (MATH) - BCPM
*Applied Mathematics
*Mathematics
*Statistics



Natural/Physical Sciences (NPSC)
*Agriculture
*Animal and Avian Sciences
*Forestry
*Geography
*Geology
*Horticulture
*Landscape Architecture
*Meteorology
*Natural Resources
*Oceanography
*Environmental Science & Policy



Other (OTHR)
All courses which do not fit appropriately into another category, including:
*Architecture
*Interdisciplinary courses
*Library Science
*Military Science



Philosophy/Religion (PHIL)
*Ethics
*Logic
*Philosophy
*Religion
*Theology



Physics (PHYS) - BCPM
*Astronomy
*Physics

Special Studies (SSTU)
*Afro-American Studies
*American Studies
*Gender Studies

 

[Blue Scrub]

I guess Zoology doesnt count towards BCPM according to the above posted list...

 

[sunnyjohn]

If the Zoology is taught by the Biology department, It probably counts in the BCPM....

There is a person that posted in another thread that got a Neuropsychology course counted in the BCPM because it was heavy on the Biology. They were challenged, presented a course description and it went on through.

I'll see if I can find the thread....

 

[Miss Alyssa]

why would you want to work to have a course classified as a science? is it srtickly just a gps thing... you did well in a class so you want it to help make your sciences look good? or is there another reason?

 

[nightowl]

If you graduate with your degree and then take some undergrad level science, with that count toward your BCPM? I heard somewhere that they would be calculated separately, but this seemed kind of stupid to me....

 

[sunnyjohn]

If you graduate with your degree and then take some undergrad level science, with that count toward your BCPM? I heard somewhere that they would be calculated separately, but this seemed kind of stupid to me....

Check out this thread for the answer to that question:
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=186629

For more info (and I am "borrowing" this right from another thread):

The major sections on AMCAS are:

Fresh
Soph
Junior
Senior
Postbac
Grad

All of these except Grad will go on your undergrad cumulative and undergrad bcpm GPAs. So postbac courses get their own section, but contribute to your undergrad cume/bcpm GPAs as well.

Both. All undergrad courses taken after your first degree contribute to your Postbaccalaureate GPA. But these grades also contribute to your total undergrad cumulative and total undergrad bcpm.

Correct. I'm pretty darn sure that this will all go under the postbac section as well...give me a sec and I'll get the link for the AMCAS grading.

Edit: Use this link and check out page 27 (continues on p. 28 too) http://www.aamc.org/students/amcas/2005instructionbook.pdf
Not exactly. Undergraduate courses taken as a non-degree student after graduating WILL be counted in the postbac section of AMCAS, but will also contribute to your total undergraduate cumulative and total undergraduate bcpm GPAs.

Edit: See the example on page 2 here: http://www.aamc.org/students/amcas/conversionguide.pdf

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[Scarletbegonias]

I guess Zoology doesnt count towards BCPM according to the above posted list...

I will reiterate: Zoology counts as part BCMP, that is science, gpa.Trust me. I applied this year and my zoology credits counted towards my science gpa.

 

[antissa]

Antissa, i was just reading your md profile thing and it says you're from U of T... what posts did you take? (specialisits... majors.....) and how come you only applied to 3 schools? and how hard is it to get into U of T's medschool?
and wait, you're only 19?

1) I'm in a human bio specialist at U of T
2) I applied to only 3 schools because I'm not in my last year of bachelors yet, so there are only so many that would consider me without a degree
3) I can only say that I personally think it's pretty hard to get into U of T's med school since they didn't even grant me an interview this year
4) Yes
Are you also currently in U of T undergrad or headed there soon?

 

[antissa]

Thanks for all the help!

 

[sintheta]

we have two statistics classes offered - one in the stat/math dept. and one in the psych. department - pretty much identical content - the stat dept one won't fit in my schedule, will the psych stats class still count for bcpm gpa? also would a letter of rec from that class still count? i dont wanna be penalized for a scheduling conflict...thanks

 

[Scarletbegonias]

we have two statistics classes offered - one in the stat/math dept. and one in the psych. department - pretty much identical content - the stat dept one won't fit in my schedule, will the psych stats class still count for bcpm gpa? also would a letter of rec from that class still count? i dont wanna be penalized for a scheduling conflict...thanks

my psych stats class did not count as part of bcmp gpa.